Fun fact: we never actually see full power burning/thermonuclear godzilla (or as you’ve called him atomic meltdown) in the Mv because Ghidorah drained a lot (or a bit either way) of energy before he entered the form
love this video. Hold this like and comment. The sections with you making the noise of Godzilla charging his blast was peak. Lmao keep pushing you, this is it.
@@sageofthickcalves Aint gonna lie bro, I'm glad to hear it. Can't wait for the next banger. I don't know what to expect next bt I know it's gonna be, dare I say , thermonuclear lol.
Its actually a biased view looking for likes n views in light of the new monsterverse 🤦 If anyone is a clear unbiased fan of both, youd easily know legendary gojira would grt utterly stomped by Kurama.
The biggest problem with Ten Tails is that it's not very smart and its battle iq is never shown to be impressive in any way whatsoever. It would likely be WAAAY easier than fighting Kurama because Kurama is way smarter and displays better battle iq and has experience fighting in space just like Goji does. Ten Tails best display of intelligence was creating the little minions to protect it from the shinobi alliance which it did because it was pinned down by Hashirama and had no other options.
Before I go off on my crazy yap session, I want to tell you that the video was great. I really enjoyed the fight. This was the work of a Goat🙏🏽 I think you were generous to Kurama, but not insanely so. tbh I already knew this was a Godzilla W when I saw which version you were using😂 You did a great job making the fight entertaining. I completely forgot about Godzilla's gills, so when you brought it up it was a surprise😅 I also have mixed opinions about Kurama's healing. One one hand, it healed a hole through the chest near instantly, but on the other hand, that was a much smaller person than Kurama. I tend to just give Kurama amazing super healing for the following reasons: 1. I'm biased and love Kurama 2. That wasn't even a Version 1 One Tailed cloak, when it healed Naruto. It was just a tiny piece of half Kurama. Kurama has many many times more chakra than that obviously. I really be hating when people make a long ah video just to say, "He blitzes and one-shots lol", so I appreciate the effort to make sure that they're on a similar level. In reality, I think Kurama should be much faster and Godzilla should be more powerful and durable. The reason for that is that I just don't exactly know how I feel about Godzilla's beams being light speed. I'll have to look deeper into it soon. I've just recently been watching a lot of Godzilla stuff. Basically, I'm a newb
First of all, welcome to Godzilla, I've been a fan since I was a kid and I love that Monsterverse is bringing the big man to a new generation (in the west, anyway). Secondly, I'm on the fence about FTL Godzilla myself. He's probably closer to Mach 4 or 5 in most incarnations, 7 if he's running full tilt, simply because he's so fucking large and moves at a relative speed to humans. His beam in Monsterverse (and probably other incarnations as well, but that's neither here nor there) is made up of Cherenkov radiation, which has a bit more nuance than "FTL". The radiation itself moves at light speed, but Cherenkov radiation occurs when something travels faster than light in any given medium (in this case, air). So it's more like Godzilla's firing subatomic particles at faster than light, and /that/ is causing the radiation to travel at light speed. So whether or not you give his atomic breath FTL or just light speed depends on which part of his breath you consider more powerful, the radiation or the blast force.
@@nightwish7074 Thank you for the explanation. I don't have an understanding of all of what you said, but I get what you were saying for the most part. Much appreciated
@@diondadigger I'm assuming it's either Monsterverse or the Cherenkov stuff that's confusing you. Sorry. 😭 Monsterverse is the Godzilla continuity being used in the video. It's composed of the Godzilla movies, comics, and shows produced by Legendary since the 2014 film. There are tons of Godzilla continuities, at least 20 or so, but seeing how the video discusses the Monsterverse one specifically, that's the one I'm mentioning. As well, there's lots of different types of radiation, but there's only one that glows blue like Godzilla's atomic breath: Cherenkov radiation. Just so happens, we know a lot about how Cherenkov radiation works, which makes it easy to figure out how powerful Big G's breath is. Just difficult to scale its speed. Just know that Cherenkov radiation is a byproduct of FTL travel, and the radiation isn't FTL itself.
@@nightwish7074 Oh, okay. I understand what you meant now. Sorry about the misunderstanding😅 I know what the Monsterverse is. It was the radiation part that I couldn't fully understand. Thanks for dumbing it down to my level💀🤣
Godzilla battle iq is also pretty high as he can adapt to his opponents fighting styles and abilities or even the terrain. A example of his adaptability wound be him perfectly adapting to fighting in zero gravity in gxk. His experience in combat makes quite difficult to deal with
He is just an animal with a better intellect, that all. Kurama is literally a genius, an incarnation of a pure universal power. He is largely superior to any human
@@kenshinsenpai overall intelligence and battle iq is two very different things. Kurama is overall smarter thanks to the ability to speak however Godzilla isn't far behind at all interms of battle iq having fought in titan wars and battles for centuries. Godzilla intelligence ID definitely smarter then most average animals so saying he's just a animal isn't accurate
kurama BIQ is dead ass smarter than naruto like when they became friends he dead ass was giving naruto plans on how to defeat people and the ten tails but also not only that he came up with thermal nucaler shit with mention of it being in the anime bro has like 200 IQ
The only part you kind of left out is his IQ/Battle IQ and regeneration/stamina which do play a massive role, especially due to Kurama's own high level scalling. Being a genius and quite agile while showing to have some heightened senses, Kurama should be able to play it smart. His agility and battle sense would greatly help him in making the most out of his attack potency while trying to defend against Godzilla's own attacks...
love the videos and this was an excellent edition as well. Here are a couple of ideas! What if Godzilla attacked Konoha instead of Kurama? It can be a gauntlet of Godzilla 1954, Heisei Godzilla, Godzilla GMK, and Godzilla Minus One since all of these versions of Godzilla are more evil (especially Godzilla GMK and Minus One) Team Avatar War Arc Gauntlet. (Vs Tobidara, Edo Tensei army, Sage Kabuto, Edo Madara, Jubito, living Madara, Jubidara) Ten Tails vs Showa King Ghidorah since King Ghidorah at the lower levels is at least Planetary at the start of the Showa Era and Destroy All Monsters is Solar System level of power so around Perfect Cell
Hey sage, long time no talk, i was wondering if you could dive into and make some videos on the toriko series? Lots of ripe powerscaling and vs battles for the taking against naruto characters i think and not many other people discuss it
Going for kurama but can understand if he can argue Godzilla! Will edit this comment after video Edit: cool video. Personally though I think it’s a bit questionable to scale kong and Godzillas physical speed to light. Godzillas breath sure but there’s definitely no way Godzilla is landing a tail spin last second on a rushing kurama. Kurama can physically move at light speed and even use the body flicker jutsu which is damn near teleportation that alone mixed with his intelligence should give him a massive advantage
On one hand yeah, there's no way in hell Godzilla could have done the tail spin there, but he could have fired off an atomic breath for the same effect. But that's less cool. The facts say Godzilla could counter somehow, then we use the cool factor to make that counter look cool.
The light speed scaling for Godzilla and Kong is 100% a high ball interpretation that I would personally argue against, but we have to take that interpretation so he doesn’t get blitzed BADLY
great video sage it was enjoyable but i think godzilla could go a little higher in scaling maybe closer to star as a baseline and also kendrick won and drake aint beat any allegations
Yeah I was wanting to be generous to Kurama here to make it interesting. None of the allegations on either side have been proven true, so whether Kendrick or Drake won is all about musical preference tbh.
Make about Godzilla vs Tentails - putting kurama fighting godzill as you said is high bowling him. Instead it would make sense if it was Godzilla Fought Tentails who is the Fusion of all Tails. It would be interesting to see them fight.
Here's a video idea I'd be interested to see. What if Godzilla was made into a chakra beast? What powers would he give his user? What would his element be? How powerful of a villian would he be for the heroes? And most importantly, what would his techniques be? I imagine a ninja that harnesses some one like Godzilla would have some interesting attacks and skills, such as emp burst, flying dropkick, and crystal plate blades
Amazing video. Question though, what's the source for Godzilla having a weakpoint in his gills? Was it mentioned in Monsterverse EU somewhere? I haven't read the comics or finished Monarch yet. Also, I wonder how we're going to scale Evolved Godzilla. We have next to no feats for him. Even we in the Godzilla community are still scratching our heads about it, since Evolved hasn't fought anyone but Shimo. He attacked Kong in Cairo, sure, but his atomic breath never landed, so we don't really know how much more powerful it is versus his base form's. We know Shimo's more powerful than other kaiju (age=power in Monsterverse and Shimo's the oldest kaiju known to still be alive), but again, Shimo doesn't have any substantial interactions with other kaiju. Not only that, we don't really have any peaks for Monsterverse Godzilla yet, since he hasn't /really/ been pushed to his limit in a fair 1v1 yet. Evolved is just a hard character to scale, I'd be very interested to see how it'd go versus the Ten-Tails. Addendum: Actually I just remembered a throwaway line we got in GXK when Godzilla took over Tiamat's lair. One of the humans remarked his power was growing "exponentially". To what exponent, no idea, but it's definitely going to be scaled to at least 4x his base form I would assume.
Another thing I noticed, you could define Kurama as a planetary guardian, which means he would be considered an alpha kaiju in the Monsterverse. Makes sense for Godzilla to off him in that case, since Godzilla would consider him a threat to his throne as king. The only reason he let Kong live is because he knew Kong wasn't /really/ a threat to either him or the planet, and it was more like he was sonning one of his underlings than taking out a real threat to him or Earth, and MV Goji doesn't kill indiscriminately, only when necessary. And before anyone brings up Tiamat, Tiamat had it coming. 😭 They were already beefing in the comics, and when the king says he needs your house, you bloody give it to him. Tiamat asked for that ass whoopin.
Thanks for the love! As for the gills, we see that way back in the first Godzilla movie in the MV from like 2014. The rest will be answered/addressed in future vids 🫡
Could probably get a few more views and would be better for the algorithm if you changed the title to Thermonuclear Godzilla but great video nonetheless and I agree with a lot of the points you stated 🙏🏾
I had a friend of mine who claims that Godzilla shouldn’t be able to kill kurama or any of the other tailed beasts due to all of them being made out of chakra.
After seeing his strats in GxK:TNE. Godzilla would most-likely try absorbing Kurama and take the power for himself. Chakra, as a new form of power, would be extremely enticing to Godzilla. I wonder how powerful he'd be if he became the 10-Tails jinchuuriki.
I’m planning an Evolved Godzilla vs The Ten Tails video, but I’m just not sure when the right time to drop it is. My first Godzilla video blew up because it was right after the release of the new movie
it actually depends on which godzilla you use because there is a comic version of godzilla that killed all the gods of Olympus and another in marvel where if you use power scaling correctly, completely destroys the naruto verse but MV goji is definatelly no where near that level and i do agree to pre GXK goji scales to planetary - star
8:48 If that’s the case, then why did you claim, in your reply to my comment in Team Avatar vs. Akatsuki, that the Bijuu’s durability scale below their mountain-island lvl bijuudamas - hence the Akatsuki not scaling to that??
Great question. The answer is that I’m being really generous to Kurama here lol. Gyuki got hit by one of his own bijuudama (a small one) and sustained enough damage that he wasn’t able to maintain his form anymore.
That's Pointless, Monsterverse house Literal Monsters from different worlds (i.e Ghidorah), not to mention some have a literal species of monsters (ex. Kong's fellow apes). Not to mention the most evil beings HUMANS - they would in fact treat kurama as another monster to kill. If you read the Monsterverse books, you find out more powerful monsters either by individually or groups and Swarms.
The tail beasts might be able to tank all the radiation that godzilla dishes out, but the humans providing the chakra needed to keep them out certainly wouldn't. Be pretty heart breaking to have kurama block the nuclear pulses only for naruto to start getting radiation sickness
No…. There’s abilities like Amaterasu that would burn him out if existence… Godzilla has never tanked flames hotter than the sun that continuously burn
@@JoeyGiles-g4ggodzilla's atomic breath is already hotter than the sun, and he can take his beam no problem. And thermo from is even hotter than his atomic break and he can also be in that form not problem as well. Plus godzilla can use a pulse attack and we've seen for nagato that pulse like attacks can get amaterasu off you
@@sageofthickcalvesno the nine tails with easily beat Godzilla no questions asked you need to stop with all this weird scaling cuz that shit is not realistic
@@sageofthickcalvesno the nine tails with easily beat Godzilla no questions asked you need to stop with all this weird scaling cuz that shit is not realistic
@@sageofthickcalvesthe only reason why you did not do this saying you're being generous to Kurama even though you're being biased just to have goddamn Godzilla win so this video turned from all the way to interesting to ass booty butt cheeks trash let that sink in you don't do a good job of paying attention to certain stuff you can use from Naruto or any other anime no you want to use comic books and guys and statements and shit but then you use power scaling that don't make any sense
Ghidorah's Storm being 20 Kilometers wide makes no sense when it's literally shown to get all the way to other countries like China from the United States.
No there are other storms that formed along his flight path, which are the ones you’re referring to. The main storm cloud is the one that travels with him and it’s about 20km.
@@sageofthickcalves Not at all, that is his actual storm that he created. It's even stated he creates them. What happened is that Ghidorah's winds are what spawns more of them but the thing is that Godzilla didn't wipe away just the one storm of Boston, it's noted he wiped away all of the storms with the exception of the Skull Island storm.
@@sageofthickcalves Also the one that travels with Ghidorah is literally the one that is Brazil sized but the thing is that the Novel for KOTM actually clarified that Ghidorah's main storm keeps getting bigger and bigger. To the point it reached the Castle Bravo Outpost.
I think you underrated Kurama... 50 Could ninjas had enough power to oneshot the moon, while half of Kurama was able to give thousands of shinobi 3 times war arc Kakashi's chakra... who... is the strongest Jounin... Half of kurama was able to gather enough sage energy for Naruto to equal ems and rinnegan Sasuke with basically the 10 tails chakra inside of him. 8 other biju and the other half of kurama... who's stronger than Six paths sage naruto, whom on couple of occasions overpowered Kaguya... who created a solar system... Now obviously Naruto and Sasuke at that point are stronger than Kurama, but planetary should be a downplay... Also KCM 1 Naruto was FTL and by that point he was not stronger or Faster than Kurama, so i see no reason why it wouldn't dodge the atomic breath... Also i don't think we can scale the aromic breath to lightspeed, that was a wank... Also Kurama not fighting in mele is really uncharacteristic, as it should have a size advantage, plus way better mele combat than Godzilla... and would figure out the gills weakness much quicker....
You seriously nerfed Godzilla bro, remember his blast to the hollow earth?, yeah well the proton scream from mechagodzilla was 2000 times more powerful than that blast or so, and A weakened took and amped version of that blast to the chest, without fatal injury, let's not even talk about the other areas, just that alone should let you know how tough this guy is
the amp for thermo, is around 3.3 times stronger then base As he 3 shot ghidorah who can no sell goji's atomic breath which he scales too, and since ghidorah was alos amped its kinda all over the place, but it should be a consistant 3.3x amp with a much higher DC output
In my opinion, Kurama would win the fight. After his Six Paths power-up, he's reached an entirely new level. Given the scenario presented in this video, he should emerge victorious. He also appears to train and study, which is evident from Baryon Mode, and he can use shadow clones, fly, and enhance himself with nature energy. So yes, Godzilla may be my all-time favorite in any media, but I have to give this one to the red fox. Edit: Also let me edit this in. To clarify for some viewers who may not grasp this: I'm not disputing Kurama's placement following the Nine Tails attack, as the reasons were provided. I'm simply sharing my perspective, based on those very reasons, on what I believe is the true full power of Kurama. This is a fascinating topic, and I concur with the video's analysis. 😇
@jackwitt7430 I know. He then specifically says , "Since the version of Kuruma we see through basically the whole series was basically one half of his true form". So there.
@jackwitt7430 EXACTLY. Nobody is denying a thing. He's basically saying the Kurama we see throughout the series was at half power which is why he used this one since he's at full power. Which has ntn to do with me choosing to use a full power kurama who is not at half power while agreeing with his video. You'd have to be obtuse in order to not see that.
@jackwitt7430 Sigh. It seems there's still a misunderstanding; I never claimed he possessed baryon mode. My point was to illustrate the likelihood of his training and research. For the last time, : he emphasized that he chose the fox from the nine-tailed attack because the other Kuramas depicted in the series were essentially weakened versions of the original. I explained why this is not true, even while concurring with the video. So, I ask that you try to comprehend the argument before jumping to conclusions next time.
@jackwitt7430 It seems irrelevant to you because you're not grasping what I'm saying, even though I've simplified it. I've explained it clearly, yet you remain unaware. This is the last time I'll say it: "He's using the fox from the nine-tailed attack BECAUSE the other versions were nerfed." Please address that point, as it's the reason I'm discussing this particular Kurama,If you're unable to do so, then perhaps we shouldn't continue this conversation. I'm clearly agreeing with the video while highlighting who I think is the actual full power Kurama. So the only thing irrelevant is your comment since you can't understand.
@jackwitt7430 He was amped regardless. Do you believe he required Naruto to harness nature energy? If so then why would he be unable to do so himself when it's clearly implied that he did? He has certainly improved, as evidenced by his discovery of abilities like baryon mode. He is essentially unified with Naruto, even if he were to leave his body as he did in the Last, with their chakras intermingling so the six paths amp should amp his chakra either way. However, I've already concurred with the video. Thank god You've finally grasped my initial point and have articulated something logical that ties back to what I've been saying all along. Therefore, debating the feasibility of whether he can or cannot perform those feats is moot since it's a matter of debate, which is why I stated it was "MY opinion." If you believe he's incapable of those feats without Naruto, that's your prerogative even if less likely.
I would put Kurama's durability slightly higher, Gyuki tanked a tailed beast bomb from the ten tails. Also, you forgot to mention that Kurama is capable of using senjutsu, though I honestly don't know how much of an amp that'll be.
The ten tails bijuu bomb had a lot of heat taken off of it, and Minato teleported it away before it detonated. So Gyuki just caught it, he didn’t tank it. Kurama may only be able to use senjutsu while having Naruto as a host.
I mean....what does Kurama do to compare to Kaguya in AP? Cuz by the time Kaguya comes around, Naruto with 6 paths is most of the duo's AP, while Kurama is the huge insane chakra battery that allows near infinite stamina
@@imthecoolest3884 He does use Kurama's power, but Kurama's power isn't all he uses. Kurama chakra by itself wouldn't have the same AP as when Naruto uses it, because Naruto combines Kurama's chakra with Nature energy and it gets a six paths boost on top of it. The most you can give Kurama is Bijuu Sage Mode Naruto. Even then, Full Kurama is likely weaker than that version of Naruto. This is why I think he is hyper consistent at Planetary+ and putting him into Otsutsuki tiers isn't accurate.
Godzilla would most likely kill kurama mostly because attacking his weak point make him mad and hurts his ego and he doesn't keep things alive that might pose a theat to him later as he killed titmat for that reason when he found out about her power up
Id say godzilla's defense should be scale to his breath because if it didn't it wouldn't hurt im to use it. Like in not a ki blast. The atomic energy has to go through has throat and out his mouth
I'm sorry but how are we jumping from high planetary to Star level? Stars are tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of times more massive than then Earth. Like maybe they're wiping out Jupiter but not the Sun. The gap between small planetary and large planetary is far smaller than the gap between large planetary and Star level. Just sayin. Great video tho
Thank you! I use “high planetary to star level” for those who aren’t necessarily familiar with how power scaling actually works to sort of spoon feed them the star level calc without making them freak out lmao
@@sageofthickcalves Yeah I know I completely understand what you mean. We already got enough cals to explain so just going back to the basic levels of power scaling is usually what's best for the wider audience
@@sageofthickcalves Meatrider of your monster community. A lot of assumptions? And your horrible scaling Without fact/feats/contexts/cosmolology/statements?
@Sage of Thick Calves also if you want to make it interesting don't use the 10 IQ ten tails since he'll just get folded make an actual good fight with six paths kurama from the war and after when he gets his other half because that kurama>>>>ten tails objectively.
@@sageofthickcalves Kurama was also amped by the six paths chakra like Naruto though so after the war and especially after he gets his other half he is solidly over ten tails. Also don't forget kurama learned how to gather nature energy from Naruto so he can also amp himself with that as well just saying. Idk if you saw the last but Naruto let just kurama out and he was able to fight and beat a six paths level giant rock golem when Naruto was fighting toneri and Naruto wasn't assisting him at all. And that was likely not full Kurama either or else Naruto would have died and not been able to use his chakra.
@@namelessvoid9725 yeah it’s just unclear if he can actually do those things while detached from Naruto’s chakra. Even when he separates as his own chakra avatar, he’s still connected to Naruto via chakra
@Sage of Thick Calves gyuki had already been fighting Obito and Madara awhile and the tailed beasts before he got hit with his biju bomb so he likely wasn't at full power when he got hit. Also full Kurama scales to planetary so no continental shockwave is gonna be enough to beat him c'mon now lol. Also you said in a previous vid that biju bombs didn't vaporize but kuramas clearly did when he blew up the mountains in konoha.
Yeah that’s why I said it wasn’t even a full power bijuu bomb from Gyuki. But if durability scales to AP due to chakra levels, his durability and AP would rise together as his chakra rose, meaning at full power the effect would still be the same. The shockwave is MULTI-CONTINENTAL. Just because you may be able to take one punch from a dude doesn’t mean if he hits you 6 times you’re just gonna be fine. Same thing applies here. One may not do it, but over time it’ll become a problem. When did I say bijuudamas don’t vaporize?
I would suggest you get evolved to fight the full power fox and thermonuclear/burning to fight the 10 tails since burning is a lot stronger than evolved, and I can prove it if I'm questioned, he's superior in every way except stamina, experience and agility.
Supercharged Godzilla (right after absorbing energy from the French nuclear plant) is stated to be the same power as thermonuclear Godzilla, and Evolved Godzilla is stated to be stronger than that.
@@sageofthickcalves sorry but they say he just looks similar, and even with the statement that he's got the most radiation than ever seen before, they are sadly referring to Boston goji, and that's because the argo (big ship with energy detectors and stuff) left at the mids of the fight where goji's power was rising constantly, and he began at a State above begging of gxk goji, also he ate a nuke, which has more energy than a power plant, and unlike gxk he had to keep all of it within him, which was essentially killing him, but he needed all the power he got to face Ghidorah, in France he had no threat posed to him so he let the energy leak more, as he would still keep the majority of it, and neither in France or when he squeamishes with Kong do they state or even bring up that he's stronger than they've ever seen him before, only when he goes all our against Shimo do they think so, and Shimo is also hinted multiple times throughout the novel to be relevant to Ghidorah, as well as having the upper hand in the fight against goji, so a kaiju that bested evolved Godzilla is relevant to the kaiju that stomped nuke amped goji (after the first amp) and then proceeded to drain his energy to get even stronger, and still got completely and utterly fodderized by thermo, these 2 forms are on a whole other level sadly.
@@petroshalkos3453 Yeah I read all of it. I just don’t think it’s necessarily on track with the statements we get. Thermonuclear Godzilla is the one from Boston, and it wouldn’t matter if they left part of the way through the fight, as the entire thing is recorded. They also reference that version of Goji unleashing the blast that disperses the storm cloud, so they’d know exactly how powerful he is. There’s even a statement about how the spiral attack he uses is the “strongest energy reading ever”, putting it above the final Omni-Blast. So, since we know evolved Goji has doubled in power from his supercharged form (stated), and that his spiral heat ray is the “strongest energy reading ever”, as well as the fact that he’s retained every ability he’s gained thus far (including the EMP blast), it’s safe to assume, in my opinions, that evolved Goji is about 2x as strong as thermonuclear Goji, with thermonuclear being 10x his regular base-self from GvK.
This whole video is full faced biasism. There is no way in hell that any titan could contend w any bijuu. This coming from one of Godzillas biggest fans since the early 90s. There hasnt been a single feat in the monsterverse of the titans being country level or planetary level. The fact that this video exists shows the ignorance in the community. Naruto got more than half of his powers drained and was able to slice the moon cleanly in half, and thats not even full power. Do not make a vid on evolved godzilla, Kurama stomps in every category especially tactition and battle intelligence. Just one bijuu bomb is destroying any titan because its not nuclear power, its chakra, but kurama makes an insight on nuclear power during narutos final mode which only would help defeat godzilla a lot quicker. Kurama wins against full power gojira low diff and im not arguing w anyone about it.
So how do you take the statement that Godzilla’s Atomic Breath is “the most devastating weapon in nature”, or that he dispelled a storm cloud that was at bare minimum 20km (requires country levels of force), but more likely spanned nearly the entire globe (planetary + levels of force)?
@@sageofthickcalves where is it ever described that he survived a storm that was planetary level?? If anything he did that was close to it, its surviving the comet aftermath, but even then he was far deep under the ocean and didnt initially "tank" the impact. If any titan is able to cause global destruction currently lore wise, its Rodan since he has volcanesis and can erupt volcanoes simply by flying over them and hes still growing... Just because godzilla is a weapon of nature in our time means nothing. You have to do this not only on a powerscaling but a worldscaling which the world of naruto is already stated to be 5x the size of ours. The world of naruto vs our current (which is what gojira is from) we would absolutely get mopped. Kurama is a beast this world couldnt comprehend, you gotta remember not only can he fire biju bombs at whim (tanked an actual planetary threat) is much more wiser and hax abilities ect..
@@deciduousoutdoors436 1: I never stated that there was a storm that was planetary level. Where did you get that from? I stated that DISPELLING the storm would take that level of force. Dispelling just the 20km storm has been calced to country level. 2: Godzilla defeated MUTO Prime, the monster that shifted continents 3: If you’re referring to the Permian extinction meteor, Godzilla was not under water. 4: “Nature’s most devastating weapon” would at bare minimum put him above the most powerful earthquake or volcano eruption ever recorded, both of which are between country and continental level. 5: Show me where it’s stated that Naruto’s earth is 5x greater than ours 💀 That’s never stated or shown anywhere brother
@@deciduousoutdoors436 I literally showed scans from the novels and feats in the movies to back up what I was saying 💀 if you don’t trust the calcs do them yourself and see what you get lol
I Love Godzilla and I enjoyed the fight. The only thing I'd add is that Kurama is so smart that we can't accurately judge how he'd Fight and Counter Godzilla since Kurama is Canonically Smarter than any of us. Thanks for the Vid 😁👍
If we use your scaling I can understand why Godzilla would win, the issues is though the scaling is off. power scaling between two different medias is very tricky but at face value from the movies Godzilla is not above city level in raw power. he could be mountain but we haven't seen that.
Evolved godzilla is multi solar due to scaling above hollow earth portals and evolved godzilla is only 20 times stronger than base godzilla meaning thermo nuclear godzilla should scale to evolved godzilla. Kurama Is only planetary so thermo nuclear godzilla has a huge advantage in ap/Durability. Ofc godzilla is only mhs while kurama is relativistic+ so kurama has far higher speed, but he can't do any damage to godzilla + godzilla has better stamina so imo thermonuclear godzilla wins.
Nah, Kurama has way more stamina. We see Godzilla get fatigued on many occasions, and Kurama can absorb nature energy IF his nearly infinite amount of chakra starts running low. Also, Thermonuclear lasted how long? 10 minutes? Kurama fought with Naruto in a nonstop war for over a day, which included fighting the other Biju, the ten tails, Kaguya, AND Sasuke who was amped by the Biju before fatiguing.
Mv godzilla has tanked attacks WAY hotter and more powerful than the surface of the sun...and consdiering some of those said attacks could be scaled WAY WAY higher than star level....yeah the narutoverse is screwed Fight me
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, idk. Huge fan of both franchises. And I actually thinking you are downplaying Kurama's intelligence, agility, and abilities to gather Sage Chakra and use some jutsu. I mean, if you are doing Kurama before Naruto, that's fair. I still don't think he would fight like a typical kaiju against something that out stats him. He wouldn't just continue to fly at Godzilla, especially after seeing the pulses. He'd fight at a distance and use terrain to gain an advantage. Plus, Kurama somehow knows about nuclear energy as revealed when he explain Baryon Mode to Naruto, so thermonuclear Godzilla might be something he'd be able to breakdown and devise a counter strategy. I will say Godzilla's durability is cracked, but I think you would have to assume that Kurama simply has no win con at all to say he loses. And I'm not actually asserting that that isn't the case. The Naruto world mains guerrilla tactics, so it would be like Kong, but an even more intelligent and agile opponent that can shoot back.
I’m fairly positive that fighting at a distance wouldn’t help him here. First, Godzilla has a more powerful long range attack in the atomic breath. Second, the energy pulses have a range of 20km, so Kurama wouldn’t be able to escape that. I’m not as smart as Kurama, so it’s tough to create a strategy he’d do, but I don’t see a strategy he could perform to counter Goji here.
@sageofthickcalves All of that is fair. I will bring up Kurama's ability to sense hatred does reach passed 20km, and will give him the ability to snipe like when the ten tails blew up the intel division. Naruto was able to sense the war going on from turtle island while inside the training room. It also operates as a form of precognition as well. I'm not arguing Kurama out stats, or really even pulls the win with these things considered. I'm just saying he has some things I would have liked to seen explored that could matter. I'm fine with your conclusion. I love both of these characters a lot, and really am just playing the devil's advocate here.
@@jarrodkent716 yeah you could conversely argue, though, that Godzilla’s ability to sense energy would allow for him to detect an incoming bijuudama. Also, Godzilla drilling into hollow earth gets his atomic breath range to literally hundreds of kilometers
@sageofthickcalves I think Kurama's sensory ability and use of long-range attacks is superior in isolation, as his sensory ability is based on intent and not actions taken. His bijuu-damas can also be shot rapidly to approach from different directions, where Godzilla's atomic breath is a straight beam that can only come from one direction. Also, 6-tails Naruto's Chakra bullets could come in as one, then separate into many somewhere along the path to hit on multiple sides. I don't think it would still be as potent, but I think there are some interesting ways this fight can play out, and I actually do believe this gives Kurama the ability to land hits more reliably than Godzilla. The question would still be if they could get through his pulse and penetrate his scales, which is still very doubtable, but it could reveal Godzilla's more vulnerable gills earlier. Not saying that that would necessarily get Kurama to the win either.
Theories, theories, theories,planetary? I've never seen Godzilla destroy a planet before,if you're gonna call someone a planetary level let alone a star level then he has to be atleast able to destroy a planet,never seen him did it before,after that breath Godzilla was pretty much exhausted and the planet was still standing, continental sure but his not a planetary level,so is kurama, they're both continental only, when you're talking about planetary atleast that would be a krillin from dragon ball z, you're giving them too much credit
@@ryanfernando7033 characters don’t have to destroy a planet to be planetary. We know for a fact that characters can output planetary levels of force without destroying the planet they’re on. A good example of that is Black Frieza one tapping Goku & Vegeta, all of whom are universal + by both feats and statements, without destroying the planet they’re on. It’s interesting to me that you’re willing to give a character continental without seeing them destroy a continent, but not planetary without seeing them destroy a planet 🤔
@@sageofthickcalves its ok for the Dragon ball z character to be known as planetary or star level because they've already shown in the past that they can do it so they have receipt for it, Godzilla is not that,kurama is not that either,they have no receipt for it
Fun fact: we never actually see full power burning/thermonuclear godzilla (or as you’ve called him atomic meltdown) in the Mv because Ghidorah drained a lot (or a bit either way) of energy before he entered the form
That’s true
He got the energy back from Mothra.
@@bishopdaking717 Mothra only stabilized the meltdown form, since even without her he would've achieved it but it'd likely harm him
@@sageofthickcalvesisnt kurama literally stated with half his power to have enough power to turn planets to ash with ease
@@orpheemulemo8053 that’s never stated to be applied to half power Kurama
Not the BBL Drizzy defender. Great vid as alwats brother!
Thanks bro! 🫡
Lol i said the same thing.
love this video. Hold this like and comment. The sections with you making the noise of Godzilla charging his blast was peak. Lmao keep pushing you, this is it.
I appreciate you bro! 🫡
@@sageofthickcalves Of course fam. Don't get it twisted. I'm one of your biggest fans. I just blunt fam. No time for masks
@@allmight3221 nah I appreciate it bro!
@@sageofthickcalves Aint gonna lie bro, I'm glad to hear it. Can't wait for the next banger. I don't know what to expect next bt I know it's gonna be, dare I say , thermonuclear lol.
@@allmight3221 hahaha I see what you did there
Absolutely amazing play-by-play on the fight. I closed my eyes and it was like watching a movie.
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it 🙏🏼
Its actually a biased view looking for likes n views in light of the new monsterverse 🤦
If anyone is a clear unbiased fan of both, youd easily know legendary gojira would grt utterly stomped by Kurama.
Crossover king done it again 🔥
Its on sight for denim dreamers round these parts 😤😂
Hahaha I appreciate it bro 🙏🏼
This is was a pretty damn fun Death Battle! Thank you for the fantastic content! Stay safe, comrade =.]
Thank you so much!
Fantastic analysis!
Looking forward to seeing the big G taking on the Ten Tails!
Thank you! Make sure to like the video and share it with your friends so they’ll like as well 🫡 every like counts for the algorithm
@@sageofthickcalves done and dusted bro 🫡
The biggest problem with Ten Tails is that it's not very smart and its battle iq is never shown to be impressive in any way whatsoever. It would likely be WAAAY easier than fighting Kurama because Kurama is way smarter and displays better battle iq and has experience fighting in space just like Goji does. Ten Tails best display of intelligence was creating the little minions to protect it from the shinobi alliance which it did because it was pinned down by Hashirama and had no other options.
Before I go off on my crazy yap session, I want to tell you that the video was great. I really enjoyed the fight. This was the work of a Goat🙏🏽
I think you were generous to Kurama, but not insanely so. tbh I already knew this was a Godzilla W when I saw which version you were using😂
You did a great job making the fight entertaining. I completely forgot about Godzilla's gills, so when you brought it up it was a surprise😅
I also have mixed opinions about Kurama's healing. One one hand, it healed a hole through the chest near instantly, but on the other hand, that was a much smaller person than Kurama. I tend to just give Kurama amazing super healing for the following reasons:
1. I'm biased and love Kurama
2. That wasn't even a Version 1 One Tailed cloak, when it healed Naruto. It was just a tiny piece of half Kurama. Kurama has many many times more chakra than that obviously.
I really be hating when people make a long ah video just to say, "He blitzes and one-shots lol", so I appreciate the effort to make sure that they're on a similar level.
In reality, I think Kurama should be much faster and Godzilla should be more powerful and durable.
The reason for that is that I just don't exactly know how I feel about Godzilla's beams being light speed. I'll have to look deeper into it soon. I've just recently been watching a lot of Godzilla stuff. Basically, I'm a newb
First of all, welcome to Godzilla, I've been a fan since I was a kid and I love that Monsterverse is bringing the big man to a new generation (in the west, anyway).
Secondly, I'm on the fence about FTL Godzilla myself. He's probably closer to Mach 4 or 5 in most incarnations, 7 if he's running full tilt, simply because he's so fucking large and moves at a relative speed to humans. His beam in Monsterverse (and probably other incarnations as well, but that's neither here nor there) is made up of Cherenkov radiation, which has a bit more nuance than "FTL". The radiation itself moves at light speed, but Cherenkov radiation occurs when something travels faster than light in any given medium (in this case, air). So it's more like Godzilla's firing subatomic particles at faster than light, and /that/ is causing the radiation to travel at light speed. So whether or not you give his atomic breath FTL or just light speed depends on which part of his breath you consider more powerful, the radiation or the blast force.
@@nightwish7074 Thank you for the explanation. I don't have an understanding of all of what you said, but I get what you were saying for the most part. Much appreciated
@@diondadigger I'm assuming it's either Monsterverse or the Cherenkov stuff that's confusing you. Sorry. 😭
Monsterverse is the Godzilla continuity being used in the video. It's composed of the Godzilla movies, comics, and shows produced by Legendary since the 2014 film. There are tons of Godzilla continuities, at least 20 or so, but seeing how the video discusses the Monsterverse one specifically, that's the one I'm mentioning.
As well, there's lots of different types of radiation, but there's only one that glows blue like Godzilla's atomic breath: Cherenkov radiation. Just so happens, we know a lot about how Cherenkov radiation works, which makes it easy to figure out how powerful Big G's breath is. Just difficult to scale its speed. Just know that Cherenkov radiation is a byproduct of FTL travel, and the radiation isn't FTL itself.
@@nightwish7074 Oh, okay. I understand what you meant now. Sorry about the misunderstanding😅 I know what the Monsterverse is. It was the radiation part that I couldn't fully understand. Thanks for dumbing it down to my level💀🤣
@@diondadigger It's all good 👍 I'm a little bit obsessed with the big lizard, so I take any opportunity I can to yap about him
Hey Sage, what do you think when full power kuruma vs Godzilla Earth?
Godzilla slams. He can destroy black holes with charged atomic breath
@@sageofthickcalves Wrong, Godzilla will defeat Kurama in battle, but he won't be able to kill him.
@@theflamingeagle572 why wouldn’t he be able to kill him?
@@sageofthickcalves As long as Kurama has any Chakra at all anywhere then he'll just come back.
@@theflamingeagle572 yeah but he does die and then resurrect. We know that for a fact. He just doesn’t stay permanently dead
Godzilla battle iq is also pretty high as he can adapt to his opponents fighting styles and abilities or even the terrain.
A example of his adaptability wound be him perfectly adapting to fighting in zero gravity in gxk. His experience in combat makes quite difficult to deal with
He is just an animal with a better intellect, that all. Kurama is literally a genius, an incarnation of a pure universal power. He is largely superior to any human
@@kenshinsenpai overall intelligence and battle iq is two very different things. Kurama is overall smarter thanks to the ability to speak however Godzilla isn't far behind at all interms of battle iq having fought in titan wars and battles for centuries.
Godzilla intelligence ID definitely smarter then most average animals so saying he's just a animal isn't accurate
@@kenshinsenpai Oppenheimer would get sh it stomped by Mike Tyson even after being dozens of time smarter than Mike
kurama BIQ is dead ass smarter than naruto like when they became friends he dead ass was giving naruto plans on how to defeat people and the ten tails but also not only that he came up with thermal nucaler shit with mention of it being in the anime bro has like 200 IQ
@@Pinicle_of_evolution Kurama is Oppenheimer and Mike Tyson
The only part you kind of left out is his IQ/Battle IQ and regeneration/stamina which do play a massive role, especially due to Kurama's own high level scalling. Being a genius and quite agile while showing to have some heightened senses, Kurama should be able to play it smart. His agility and battle sense would greatly help him in making the most out of his attack potency while trying to defend against Godzilla's own attacks...
love the videos and this was an excellent edition as well. Here are a couple of ideas!
What if Godzilla attacked Konoha instead of Kurama? It can be a gauntlet of Godzilla 1954, Heisei Godzilla, Godzilla GMK, and Godzilla Minus One since all of these versions of Godzilla are more evil (especially Godzilla GMK and Minus One)
Team Avatar War Arc Gauntlet. (Vs Tobidara, Edo Tensei army, Sage Kabuto, Edo Madara, Jubito, living Madara, Jubidara)
Ten Tails vs Showa King Ghidorah since King Ghidorah at the lower levels is at least Planetary at the start of the Showa Era and Destroy All Monsters is Solar System level of power so around Perfect Cell
Thank you so much! Those are great ideas 🔥
just letting you know i just came from the other tailed beast video, you got the sub, like, and now im watching part two. love the goji content
Thank you so much!
seeing a video like this from a mainly naruto centered channel is nice to see for goji fans
🙏🏼🫡
how about full power nine tails vs godzilla earth? im curious how would that go
Sounds interesting!
Hey sage, long time no talk, i was wondering if you could dive into and make some videos on the toriko series? Lots of ripe powerscaling and vs battles for the taking against naruto characters i think and not many other people discuss it
I’ll check it out! 🙏🏼
@@sageofthickcalves Absolute legend. This is gonna be amazing content. Can't wait to see it
Going for kurama but can understand if he can argue Godzilla! Will edit this comment after video
Edit: cool video. Personally though I think it’s a bit questionable to scale kong and Godzillas physical speed to light. Godzillas breath sure but there’s definitely no way Godzilla is landing a tail spin last second on a rushing kurama. Kurama can physically move at light speed and even use the body flicker jutsu which is damn near teleportation that alone mixed with his intelligence should give him a massive advantage
On one hand yeah, there's no way in hell Godzilla could have done the tail spin there, but he could have fired off an atomic breath for the same effect. But that's less cool. The facts say Godzilla could counter somehow, then we use the cool factor to make that counter look cool.
The light speed scaling for Godzilla and Kong is 100% a high ball interpretation that I would personally argue against, but we have to take that interpretation so he doesn’t get blitzed BADLY
@@sageofthickcalves fair point
We haven't seen burning Godzilla true power it was more of a power up in the movie and he had a beam but he didn't need to use it
great video sage it was enjoyable but i think godzilla could go a little higher in scaling maybe closer to star as a baseline and also kendrick won and drake aint beat any allegations
Yeah I was wanting to be generous to Kurama here to make it interesting.
None of the allegations on either side have been proven true, so whether Kendrick or Drake won is all about musical preference tbh.
You should do all 9 tail beast vs the giants from blood of Zeus
LETS GO IM HERE. Great videos man keep up the work. Also i got a video idea, season one Ben from ben ten versus the naruto verse/specific event.
Thanks brother! And you’re gonna be pleasantly surprised with the crossverse content I have coming out over the next couple months 😏
@@sageofthickcalves I hope so and look forward to it
I like how we have to clarify the use of legendary godzilla as some other versions of godzilla just makes this fight so unfair 😂
100%
Unless it’s zilla
@@bedsidekhair3667 depends on which version of zilla movie one is the weakest but the anime one is a lot stronger then you may think.
Make about Godzilla vs Tentails - putting kurama fighting godzill as you said is high bowling him. Instead it would make sense if it was Godzilla Fought Tentails who is the Fusion of all Tails. It would be interesting to see them fight.
Here's a video idea I'd be interested to see. What if Godzilla was made into a chakra beast? What powers would he give his user? What would his element be? How powerful of a villian would he be for the heroes? And most importantly, what would his techniques be?
I imagine a ninja that harnesses some one like Godzilla would have some interesting attacks and skills, such as emp burst, flying dropkick, and crystal plate blades
Amazing video. Question though, what's the source for Godzilla having a weakpoint in his gills? Was it mentioned in Monsterverse EU somewhere? I haven't read the comics or finished Monarch yet.
Also, I wonder how we're going to scale Evolved Godzilla. We have next to no feats for him. Even we in the Godzilla community are still scratching our heads about it, since Evolved hasn't fought anyone but Shimo. He attacked Kong in Cairo, sure, but his atomic breath never landed, so we don't really know how much more powerful it is versus his base form's. We know Shimo's more powerful than other kaiju (age=power in Monsterverse and Shimo's the oldest kaiju known to still be alive), but again, Shimo doesn't have any substantial interactions with other kaiju. Not only that, we don't really have any peaks for Monsterverse Godzilla yet, since he hasn't /really/ been pushed to his limit in a fair 1v1 yet. Evolved is just a hard character to scale, I'd be very interested to see how it'd go versus the Ten-Tails.
Addendum: Actually I just remembered a throwaway line we got in GXK when Godzilla took over Tiamat's lair. One of the humans remarked his power was growing "exponentially". To what exponent, no idea, but it's definitely going to be scaled to at least 4x his base form I would assume.
Another thing I noticed, you could define Kurama as a planetary guardian, which means he would be considered an alpha kaiju in the Monsterverse. Makes sense for Godzilla to off him in that case, since Godzilla would consider him a threat to his throne as king. The only reason he let Kong live is because he knew Kong wasn't /really/ a threat to either him or the planet, and it was more like he was sonning one of his underlings than taking out a real threat to him or Earth, and MV Goji doesn't kill indiscriminately, only when necessary.
And before anyone brings up Tiamat, Tiamat had it coming. 😭 They were already beefing in the comics, and when the king says he needs your house, you bloody give it to him. Tiamat asked for that ass whoopin.
Thanks for the love! As for the gills, we see that way back in the first Godzilla movie in the MV from like 2014. The rest will be answered/addressed in future vids 🫡
@@nightwish7074 100%
Sage, how thick is your calves? Did ever skip the leg day?
About 18 inches. I never skip leg day. 🫡
Let's not forget... Without equalization, Kurama speed blitzes.
How does the Tailed Beast compare to legendary Pokémon?
That’s a great question. I’ll be exploring that soon 🫡
Could probably get a few more views and would be better for the algorithm if you changed the title to Thermonuclear Godzilla but great video nonetheless and I agree with a lot of the points you stated 🙏🏾
Bet 🫡
Godzilla vs Ten tails next
Coming soon
5:31 it gets crazier because I heard that the director confirmed that thermo has a buffed atomic breath but he just didn’t use it
100%
Babe the new sage vid just dropped
🫡
I had a friend of mine who claims that Godzilla shouldn’t be able to kill kurama or any of the other tailed beasts due to all of them being made out of chakra.
It’s stated in the Naruto manga that bijuu can die, but they eventually reform
It was also of kurama who tanked it which would make full kurama more impressive
10 tails (all forms) vs Godzilla (all forms)
🔥
Godzilla negs XD
After seeing his strats in GxK:TNE. Godzilla would most-likely try absorbing Kurama and take the power for himself. Chakra, as a new form of power, would be extremely enticing to Godzilla. I wonder how powerful he'd be if he became the 10-Tails jinchuuriki.
I’m planning an Evolved Godzilla vs The Ten Tails video, but I’m just not sure when the right time to drop it is. My first Godzilla video blew up because it was right after the release of the new movie
it actually depends on which godzilla you use because there is a comic version of godzilla that killed all the gods of Olympus and another in marvel where if you use power scaling correctly, completely destroys the naruto verse but MV goji is definatelly no where near that level and i do agree to pre GXK goji scales to planetary - star
8:48 If that’s the case, then why did you claim, in your reply to my comment in Team Avatar vs. Akatsuki, that the Bijuu’s durability scale below their mountain-island lvl bijuudamas - hence the Akatsuki not scaling to that??
Great question. The answer is that I’m being really generous to Kurama here lol. Gyuki got hit by one of his own bijuudama (a small one) and sustained enough damage that he wasn’t able to maintain his form anymore.
I saw a meme today and was wondering how the powerpuff girls would scale to naruto and to dragon ball and maybe to like middle of z
👀
@@sageofthickcalves maybe have them fightbthe bijou first as they often fight kaiju lol
Kurama vs Monsterverse King Ghidorah next plz 🙏🏾
That's Pointless, Monsterverse house Literal Monsters from different worlds (i.e Ghidorah), not to mention some have a literal species of monsters (ex. Kong's fellow apes).
Not to mention the most evil beings HUMANS - they would in fact treat kurama as another monster to kill.
If you read the Monsterverse books, you find out more powerful monsters either by individually or groups and Swarms.
We need a Kong vs The tailed beasts
Bet
You also literally showed Kurama tanking attacks from the 10 ten tails who is planet level bare minimum
Legendary godzilla has star to solar system level scaling
Tanking a slap, not his most powerful attack
Stop the wank. Godzilla is a complete fodder. Never scale again
The tail beasts might be able to tank all the radiation that godzilla dishes out, but the humans providing the chakra needed to keep them out certainly wouldn't.
Be pretty heart breaking to have kurama block the nuclear pulses only for naruto to start getting radiation sickness
Never let bro cook again, he burn the wall fucking house ☠️
Aye bruh all I’m saying is this is the first comment I’ve seen like this on here 💀
Godzilla hi-diffs the verse and I love the lore of both. I'm just keeping it real
The pulse that disintegrated ghidorah is way more powerful than you said since half of it went the other way but it was still enough to kill MZ
Yeah I was being generous to Kurama
Brother, is this nomal kurama or Asura mode Kurama😐
I stated it was the Kurama from the nine tails attack.
@@sageofthickcalves ohhhh ok 👍🏼
@@JawBreaker4756 🫡
Godzilla CLAPS the Narutoverse!
nah that is only if you use the highly erroneous statements from Monarch show, feats show he in fact dose not clap the verse
No…. There’s abilities like Amaterasu that would burn him out if existence… Godzilla has never tanked flames hotter than the sun that continuously burn
@@damianmorningstar3150 maybe not legendary godzilla but most definitely strongly versions of godzilla
@@JoeyGiles-g4ggodzilla's atomic breath is already hotter than the sun, and he can take his beam no problem.
And thermo from is even hotter than his atomic break and he can also be in that form not problem as well.
Plus godzilla can use a pulse attack and we've seen for nagato that pulse like attacks can get amaterasu off you
I mean, they could just seal Godzilla... And I doubt Godzilla could tank truth seeking orbs
"You did well Kurama, I won't forget you for as long as I live"
Godzilla
💀
@@sageofthickcalvesno the nine tails with easily beat Godzilla no questions asked you need to stop with all this weird scaling cuz that shit is not realistic
@@sageofthickcalvesno the nine tails with easily beat Godzilla no questions asked you need to stop with all this weird scaling cuz that shit is not realistic
@@sageofthickcalvescan we just stop capping we all know the nine tails would win against Godzilla This is BS stop with the mental gymnastics
@@sageofthickcalvesthe only reason why you did not do this saying you're being generous to Kurama even though you're being biased just to have goddamn Godzilla win so this video turned from all the way to interesting to ass booty butt cheeks trash let that sink in you don't do a good job of paying attention to certain stuff you can use from Naruto or any other anime no you want to use comic books and guys and statements and shit but then you use power scaling that don't make any sense
Ghidorah's Storm being 20 Kilometers wide makes no sense when it's literally shown to get all the way to other countries like China from the United States.
No there are other storms that formed along his flight path, which are the ones you’re referring to. The main storm cloud is the one that travels with him and it’s about 20km.
@@sageofthickcalves Not at all, that is his actual storm that he created. It's even stated he creates them. What happened is that Ghidorah's winds are what spawns more of them but the thing is that Godzilla didn't wipe away just the one storm of Boston, it's noted he wiped away all of the storms with the exception of the Skull Island storm.
@@sageofthickcalves Also the one that travels with Ghidorah is literally the one that is Brazil sized but the thing is that the Novel for KOTM actually clarified that Ghidorah's main storm keeps getting bigger and bigger. To the point it reached the Castle Bravo Outpost.
@@berserkerjeanne7563 you could argue that the storms around the world went away when Ghidora was eliminated
@@sageofthickcalves Not when there is an actual statement that was Godzilla's doing
If Naruto were controlling Kurama he’d win for sure
If it’s final valley 6 paths Sage mode Naruto, yes lol
I need ten tails vs evolved
It’ll happen 🫡
@@sageofthickcalves 🫡I’ll be there to share
@@Hooliganken17 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I can actually like this! It's not for the orphans!
🫡
Next 10 tails vs godzilla earth
I feel like that might just be overkill in earths favor
pain arc kakashi vs jiraiya?
akatsuki suppression kakashi vs jiraiya?
I have Pain Arc Kakashi > Jiraiya even with Sage Mode and Akatsuki Supression > Base Jiraiya, but not Sage Mode
W vid on the road to 5k 🫡
Thanks brother!
I think you underrated Kurama...
50 Could ninjas had enough power to oneshot the moon, while half of Kurama was able to give thousands of shinobi 3 times war arc Kakashi's chakra... who... is the strongest Jounin...
Half of kurama was able to gather enough sage energy for Naruto to equal ems and rinnegan Sasuke with basically the 10 tails chakra inside of him. 8 other biju and the other half of kurama... who's stronger than Six paths sage naruto, whom on couple of occasions overpowered Kaguya... who created a solar system...
Now obviously Naruto and Sasuke at that point are stronger than Kurama, but planetary should be a downplay...
Also KCM 1 Naruto was FTL and by that point he was not stronger or Faster than Kurama, so i see no reason why it wouldn't dodge the atomic breath...
Also i don't think we can scale the aromic breath to lightspeed, that was a wank...
Also Kurama not fighting in mele is really uncharacteristic, as it should have a size advantage, plus way better mele combat than Godzilla... and would figure out the gills weakness much quicker....
I feel like you could do a cool video with Mewtwo from the first Pokémon movie vs some Naruto characters.
Atkaski duos try to catch him? 😂
@@spit-fire AYE BRUH YOU BEEN READING MY MESSAGES??????
@@sageofthickcalves on that frequency LOL
But could either of them beat Ash?
👀
Imagine catching Godzilla or Kurama with a master ball ☠️
@@maskedtonez imagine Dynamaxing Godzilla 💀
@@maskedtonez unstoppable 💀
50 seconds and no views you fell off jk you're a GOAT sage
fr
💀
GODZILLA LAUGHED WHEN GHIDORAH TRIED TO USE THE GRAVITY BEAMS AGAINST HIM, I REPEAT, HE LUAGHED
NAH FR 🔥
You seriously nerfed Godzilla bro, remember his blast to the hollow earth?, yeah well the proton scream from mechagodzilla was 2000 times more powerful than that blast or so, and A weakened took and amped version of that blast to the chest, without fatal injury, let's not even talk about the other areas, just that alone should let you know how tough this guy is
Yeah I wanted to make it seem closer for the Kurama fans
@@sageofthickcalves 🤣, wow men that hurt, I'm not a Naruto person but that hurt, it' was a nice video though good job
@@basixs88 thank you! The thing is, I am a Naruto fan, and this is mostly a Naruto page, but the scaling is the scaling lmao
the amp for thermo, is around 3.3 times stronger then base
As he 3 shot ghidorah who can no sell goji's atomic breath which he scales too, and since ghidorah was alos amped its kinda all over the place, but it should be a consistant 3.3x amp with a much higher DC output
In my opinion, Kurama would win the fight. After his Six Paths power-up, he's reached an entirely new level. Given the scenario presented in this video, he should emerge victorious. He also appears to train and study, which is evident from Baryon Mode, and he can use shadow clones, fly, and enhance himself with nature energy. So yes, Godzilla may be my all-time favorite in any media, but I have to give this one to the red fox.
Edit: Also let me edit this in. To clarify for some viewers who may not grasp this: I'm not disputing Kurama's placement following the Nine Tails attack, as the reasons were provided. I'm simply sharing my perspective, based on those very reasons, on what I believe is the true full power of Kurama. This is a fascinating topic, and I concur with the video's analysis.
😇
@jackwitt7430 I know. He then specifically says , "Since the version of Kuruma we see through basically the whole series was basically one half of his true form". So there.
@jackwitt7430 EXACTLY. Nobody is denying a thing. He's basically saying the Kurama we see throughout the series was at half power which is why he used this one since he's at full power. Which has ntn to do with me choosing to use a full power kurama who is not at half power while agreeing with his video. You'd have to be obtuse in order to not see that.
@jackwitt7430 Sigh. It seems there's still a misunderstanding; I never claimed he possessed baryon mode. My point was to illustrate the likelihood of his training and research. For the last time, : he emphasized that he chose the fox from the nine-tailed attack because the other Kuramas depicted in the series were essentially weakened versions of the original. I explained why this is not true, even while concurring with the video. So, I ask that you try to comprehend the argument before jumping to conclusions next time.
@jackwitt7430 It seems irrelevant to you because you're not grasping what I'm saying, even though I've simplified it. I've explained it clearly, yet you remain unaware. This is the last time I'll say it: "He's using the fox from the nine-tailed attack BECAUSE the other versions were nerfed." Please address that point, as it's the reason I'm discussing this particular Kurama,If you're unable to do so, then perhaps we shouldn't continue this conversation. I'm clearly agreeing with the video while highlighting who I think is the actual full power Kurama. So the only thing irrelevant is your comment since you can't understand.
@jackwitt7430 He was amped regardless. Do you believe he required Naruto to harness nature energy? If so then why would he be unable to do so himself when it's clearly implied that he did? He has certainly improved, as evidenced by his discovery of abilities like baryon mode. He is essentially unified with Naruto, even if he were to leave his body as he did in the Last, with their chakras intermingling so the six paths amp should amp his chakra either way. However, I've already concurred with the video. Thank god You've finally grasped my initial point and have articulated something logical that ties back to what I've been saying all along. Therefore, debating the feasibility of whether he can or cannot perform those feats is moot since it's a matter of debate, which is why I stated it was "MY opinion." If you believe he's incapable of those feats without Naruto, that's your prerogative even if less likely.
I would put Kurama's durability slightly higher, Gyuki tanked a tailed beast bomb from the ten tails. Also, you forgot to mention that Kurama is capable of using senjutsu, though I honestly don't know how much of an amp that'll be.
The ten tails bijuu bomb had a lot of heat taken off of it, and Minato teleported it away before it detonated. So Gyuki just caught it, he didn’t tank it.
Kurama may only be able to use senjutsu while having Naruto as a host.
Why did you even make this video 😭 Godzilla is dwarf star level
For the views
@@sageofthickcalvesI do like it tho, you did a really good job
@@wessilinmendez1574 thank you!
depends what kurama form were talking about if its just regular then no but if its so6p mode then no diff i mean come on he,s literally 3 times bigger
Kurama has star level scaling to uni with kaguya why was this ignored ?
Nah G man Burning meltdown solos Kurama with mid-high diff, i love naruto and kurama but G man is just overpowered
I mean....what does Kurama do to compare to Kaguya in AP? Cuz by the time Kaguya comes around, Naruto with 6 paths is most of the duo's AP, while Kurama is the huge insane chakra battery that allows near infinite stamina
@diondadigger Naruto uses his power when he fights Kayuga, and in the valley of the end, he fights sasuke sasuke who also scales to Kaguya simple
@user-rf8yu2ys7h I don't think so Kurama would more likely win I have him scaled higher than where he placed fp Kurama at
@@imthecoolest3884 He does use Kurama's power, but Kurama's power isn't all he uses.
Kurama chakra by itself wouldn't have the same AP as when Naruto uses it, because Naruto combines Kurama's chakra with Nature energy and it gets a six paths boost on top of it. The most you can give Kurama is Bijuu Sage Mode Naruto. Even then, Full Kurama is likely weaker than that version of Naruto.
This is why I think he is hyper consistent at Planetary+ and putting him into Otsutsuki tiers isn't accurate.
Godzilla would most likely kill kurama mostly because attacking his weak point make him mad and hurts his ego and he doesn't keep things alive that might pose a theat to him later as he killed titmat for that reason when he found out about her power up
Isn’t full power Kurama the one from boruto who urashiki is scared of?
@@midesoyibo5420 that’s Kurama with Naruto’s chakra as well. Talking about just Kurama here
Id say godzilla's defense should be scale to his breath because if it didn't it wouldn't hurt im to use it. Like in not a ki blast. The atomic energy has to go through has throat and out his mouth
Yeah you could just argue that because the nucleosynthesis happens in his throat that only his throat and mouth would have to be that durable
sage is ovhoe? 😂
💀💀💀
Sega mod naruto vs killer bee
Goji in hell vs 10 tails?
👀
1 million ninja vs 1 Godzilla
Nice concept sage 😅 buuuttttttttttttttt
Godzilla vs each susanoo
I'm sorry but how are we jumping from high planetary to Star level? Stars are tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of times more massive than then Earth. Like maybe they're wiping out Jupiter but not the Sun. The gap between small planetary and large planetary is far smaller than the gap between large planetary and Star level. Just sayin. Great video tho
Thank you! I use “high planetary to star level” for those who aren’t necessarily familiar with how power scaling actually works to sort of spoon feed them the star level calc without making them freak out lmao
@@sageofthickcalves Yeah I know I completely understand what you mean. We already got enough cals to explain so just going back to the basic levels of power scaling is usually what's best for the wider audience
@@ontoya1 100%
Sorry Kurama i know ur really strong but... yeah
They're isn't anything ratty about Kurama especially at full power having star to planet level ap and durability
You have to make a lot of assumptions to get him to star level
@@sageofthickcalves Meatrider of your monster community. A lot of assumptions? And your horrible scaling Without fact/feats/contexts/cosmolology/statements?
Godzilla can't do a shit in the Naruto verse. 😂
@@kenshinsenpai yes he can?
@@sageofthickcalves no you don't scaling him to kaguya and causing his Chakra to one shot toneri is enough wtf?
WHOAA blind? Godzila can still see while blinded through sensing
Yeah it’s pretty sick
@Sage of Thick Calves also if you want to make it interesting don't use the 10 IQ ten tails since he'll just get folded make an actual good fight with six paths kurama from the war and after when he gets his other half because that kurama>>>>ten tails objectively.
I’m not entirely convinced that Kurama without Naruto’s power could even significantly damage the ten tails.
@@sageofthickcalves Kurama was also amped by the six paths chakra like Naruto though so after the war and especially after he gets his other half he is solidly over ten tails. Also don't forget kurama learned how to gather nature energy from Naruto so he can also amp himself with that as well just saying. Idk if you saw the last but Naruto let just kurama out and he was able to fight and beat a six paths level giant rock golem when Naruto was fighting toneri and Naruto wasn't assisting him at all. And that was likely not full Kurama either or else Naruto would have died and not been able to use his chakra.
@@namelessvoid9725 yeah it’s just unclear if he can actually do those things while detached from Naruto’s chakra. Even when he separates as his own chakra avatar, he’s still connected to Naruto via chakra
@Sage of Thick Calves gyuki had already been fighting Obito and Madara awhile and the tailed beasts before he got hit with his biju bomb so he likely wasn't at full power when he got hit. Also full Kurama scales to planetary so no continental shockwave is gonna be enough to beat him c'mon now lol. Also you said in a previous vid that biju bombs didn't vaporize but kuramas clearly did when he blew up the mountains in konoha.
Yeah that’s why I said it wasn’t even a full power bijuu bomb from Gyuki. But if durability scales to AP due to chakra levels, his durability and AP would rise together as his chakra rose, meaning at full power the effect would still be the same.
The shockwave is MULTI-CONTINENTAL. Just because you may be able to take one punch from a dude doesn’t mean if he hits you 6 times you’re just gonna be fine. Same thing applies here. One may not do it, but over time it’ll become a problem.
When did I say bijuudamas don’t vaporize?
@@sageofthickcalves In your godzilla vs tailed beast video i believe.
@@namelessvoid9725 I don’t think I ever said that brother. You may have misinterpreted what I said
I would suggest you get evolved to fight the full power fox and thermonuclear/burning to fight the 10 tails since burning is a lot stronger than evolved, and I can prove it if I'm questioned, he's superior in every way except stamina, experience and agility.
Supercharged Godzilla (right after absorbing energy from the French nuclear plant) is stated to be the same power as thermonuclear Godzilla, and Evolved Godzilla is stated to be stronger than that.
@@sageofthickcalves sorry but they say he just looks similar, and even with the statement that he's got the most radiation than ever seen before, they are sadly referring to Boston goji, and that's because the argo (big ship with energy detectors and stuff) left at the mids of the fight where goji's power was rising constantly, and he began at a State above begging of gxk goji, also he ate a nuke, which has more energy than a power plant, and unlike gxk he had to keep all of it within him, which was essentially killing him, but he needed all the power he got to face Ghidorah, in France he had no threat posed to him so he let the energy leak more, as he would still keep the majority of it, and neither in France or when he squeamishes with Kong do they state or even bring up that he's stronger than they've ever seen him before, only when he goes all our against Shimo do they think so, and Shimo is also hinted multiple times throughout the novel to be relevant to Ghidorah, as well as having the upper hand in the fight against goji, so a kaiju that bested evolved Godzilla is relevant to the kaiju that stomped nuke amped goji (after the first amp) and then proceeded to drain his energy to get even stronger, and still got completely and utterly fodderized by thermo, these 2 forms are on a whole other level sadly.
@@sageofthickcalves and I say sadly because I find evolved to be much cooler than just a Godzilla with orange cracks
@@sageofthickcalves hope you read all that lol, that's a summary, just to put into perspective how much depth goes into these arguments
@@petroshalkos3453 Yeah I read all of it. I just don’t think it’s necessarily on track with the statements we get.
Thermonuclear Godzilla is the one from Boston, and it wouldn’t matter if they left part of the way through the fight, as the entire thing is recorded. They also reference that version of Goji unleashing the blast that disperses the storm cloud, so they’d know exactly how powerful he is.
There’s even a statement about how the spiral attack he uses is the “strongest energy reading ever”, putting it above the final Omni-Blast.
So, since we know evolved Goji has doubled in power from his supercharged form (stated), and that his spiral heat ray is the “strongest energy reading ever”, as well as the fact that he’s retained every ability he’s gained thus far (including the EMP blast), it’s safe to assume, in my opinions, that evolved Goji is about 2x as strong as thermonuclear Goji, with thermonuclear being 10x his regular base-self from GvK.
Now ten tails🗿
Make sure to leave a like! I’ll probably do it even if it just hits 500 likes, although I said 1000.
This whole video is full faced biasism. There is no way in hell that any titan could contend w any bijuu. This coming from one of Godzillas biggest fans since the early 90s.
There hasnt been a single feat in the monsterverse of the titans being country level or planetary level. The fact that this video exists shows the ignorance in the community.
Naruto got more than half of his powers drained and was able to slice the moon cleanly in half, and thats not even full power.
Do not make a vid on evolved godzilla, Kurama stomps in every category especially tactition and battle intelligence. Just one bijuu bomb is destroying any titan because its not nuclear power, its chakra, but kurama makes an insight on nuclear power during narutos final mode which only would help defeat godzilla a lot quicker.
Kurama wins against full power gojira low diff and im not arguing w anyone about it.
So how do you take the statement that Godzilla’s Atomic Breath is “the most devastating weapon in nature”, or that he dispelled a storm cloud that was at bare minimum 20km (requires country levels of force), but more likely spanned nearly the entire globe (planetary + levels of force)?
@@sageofthickcalves where is it ever described that he survived a storm that was planetary level?? If anything he did that was close to it, its surviving the comet aftermath, but even then he was far deep under the ocean and didnt initially "tank" the impact.
If any titan is able to cause global destruction currently lore wise, its Rodan since he has volcanesis and can erupt volcanoes simply by flying over them and hes still growing...
Just because godzilla is a weapon of nature in our time means nothing.
You have to do this not only on a powerscaling but a worldscaling which the world of naruto is already stated to be 5x the size of ours. The world of naruto vs our current (which is what gojira is from) we would absolutely get mopped. Kurama is a beast this world couldnt comprehend, you gotta remember not only can he fire biju bombs at whim (tanked an actual planetary threat) is much more wiser and hax abilities ect..
@@deciduousoutdoors436 1: I never stated that there was a storm that was planetary level. Where did you get that from? I stated that DISPELLING the storm would take that level of force. Dispelling just the 20km storm has been calced to country level.
2: Godzilla defeated MUTO Prime, the monster that shifted continents
3: If you’re referring to the Permian extinction meteor, Godzilla was not under water.
4: “Nature’s most devastating weapon” would at bare minimum put him above the most powerful earthquake or volcano eruption ever recorded, both of which are between country and continental level.
5: Show me where it’s stated that Naruto’s earth is 5x greater than ours 💀 That’s never stated or shown anywhere brother
@@sageofthickcalves Bro you provided no links in your video so your whole video is biased. How bout that?
@@deciduousoutdoors436 I literally showed scans from the novels and feats in the movies to back up what I was saying 💀 if you don’t trust the calcs do them yourself and see what you get lol
I Love Godzilla and I enjoyed the fight. The only thing I'd add is that Kurama is so smart that we can't accurately judge how he'd Fight and Counter Godzilla since Kurama is Canonically Smarter than any of us.
Thanks for the Vid 😁👍
Yeah for sure. I do my best with strategy, but I’m no super genius lol. Thanks for the love! 🙏🏼
The G man takes it!
If we use your scaling I can understand why Godzilla would win, the issues is though the scaling is off. power scaling between two different medias is very tricky but at face value from the movies Godzilla is not above city level in raw power. he could be mountain but we haven't seen that.
There’s a difference between attack potency and destructive capacity
Evolved godzilla is multi solar due to scaling above hollow earth portals and evolved godzilla is only 20 times stronger than base godzilla meaning thermo nuclear godzilla should scale to evolved godzilla. Kurama Is only planetary so thermo nuclear godzilla has a huge advantage in ap/Durability. Ofc godzilla is only mhs while kurama is relativistic+ so kurama has far higher speed, but he can't do any damage to godzilla + godzilla has better stamina so imo thermonuclear godzilla wins.
Nah, Kurama has way more stamina. We see Godzilla get fatigued on many occasions, and Kurama can absorb nature energy IF his nearly infinite amount of chakra starts running low.
Also, Thermonuclear lasted how long? 10 minutes? Kurama fought with Naruto in a nonstop war for over a day, which included fighting the other Biju, the ten tails, Kaguya, AND Sasuke who was amped by the Biju before fatiguing.
hes not 20x stronger hes about 2 to three times base godzilla. he just has 20x energy capacity
Mv godzilla has tanked attacks WAY hotter and more powerful than the surface of the sun...and consdiering some of those said attacks could be scaled WAY WAY higher than star level....yeah the narutoverse is screwed
Fight me
i unironically sleep with jeans on
Aye bro you gotta stop that fr
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, idk. Huge fan of both franchises. And I actually thinking you are downplaying Kurama's intelligence, agility, and abilities to gather Sage Chakra and use some jutsu. I mean, if you are doing Kurama before Naruto, that's fair. I still don't think he would fight like a typical kaiju against something that out stats him. He wouldn't just continue to fly at Godzilla, especially after seeing the pulses. He'd fight at a distance and use terrain to gain an advantage. Plus, Kurama somehow knows about nuclear energy as revealed when he explain Baryon Mode to Naruto, so thermonuclear Godzilla might be something he'd be able to breakdown and devise a counter strategy.
I will say Godzilla's durability is cracked, but I think you would have to assume that Kurama simply has no win con at all to say he loses. And I'm not actually asserting that that isn't the case. The Naruto world mains guerrilla tactics, so it would be like Kong, but an even more intelligent and agile opponent that can shoot back.
I’m fairly positive that fighting at a distance wouldn’t help him here. First, Godzilla has a more powerful long range attack in the atomic breath. Second, the energy pulses have a range of 20km, so Kurama wouldn’t be able to escape that. I’m not as smart as Kurama, so it’s tough to create a strategy he’d do, but I don’t see a strategy he could perform to counter Goji here.
@sageofthickcalves All of that is fair. I will bring up Kurama's ability to sense hatred does reach passed 20km, and will give him the ability to snipe like when the ten tails blew up the intel division. Naruto was able to sense the war going on from turtle island while inside the training room. It also operates as a form of precognition as well. I'm not arguing Kurama out stats, or really even pulls the win with these things considered. I'm just saying he has some things I would have liked to seen explored that could matter. I'm fine with your conclusion. I love both of these characters a lot, and really am just playing the devil's advocate here.
@@jarrodkent716 yeah you could conversely argue, though, that Godzilla’s ability to sense energy would allow for him to detect an incoming bijuudama. Also, Godzilla drilling into hollow earth gets his atomic breath range to literally hundreds of kilometers
@sageofthickcalves I think Kurama's sensory ability and use of long-range attacks is superior in isolation, as his sensory ability is based on intent and not actions taken. His bijuu-damas can also be shot rapidly to approach from different directions, where Godzilla's atomic breath is a straight beam that can only come from one direction. Also, 6-tails Naruto's Chakra bullets could come in as one, then separate into many somewhere along the path to hit on multiple sides.
I don't think it would still be as potent, but I think there are some interesting ways this fight can play out, and I actually do believe this gives Kurama the ability to land hits more reliably than Godzilla. The question would still be if they could get through his pulse and penetrate his scales, which is still very doubtable, but it could reveal Godzilla's more vulnerable gills earlier. Not saying that that would necessarily get Kurama to the win either.
@@jarrodkent716 yeah the problem is, like you eluded to, those quick fire bijuudamas may not pack enough punch to actually would big G
2:41 💀
💀stick to scaling that drake comparison was horrible
Drake won
Theories, theories, theories,planetary? I've never seen Godzilla destroy a planet before,if you're gonna call someone a planetary level let alone a star level then he has to be atleast able to destroy a planet,never seen him did it before,after that breath Godzilla was pretty much exhausted and the planet was still standing, continental sure but his not a planetary level,so is kurama, they're both continental only, when you're talking about planetary atleast that would be a krillin from dragon ball z, you're giving them too much credit
@@ryanfernando7033 characters don’t have to destroy a planet to be planetary. We know for a fact that characters can output planetary levels of force without destroying the planet they’re on. A good example of that is Black Frieza one tapping Goku & Vegeta, all of whom are universal + by both feats and statements, without destroying the planet they’re on.
It’s interesting to me that you’re willing to give a character continental without seeing them destroy a continent, but not planetary without seeing them destroy a planet 🤔
@@sageofthickcalves its ok for the Dragon ball z character to be known as planetary or star level because they've already shown in the past that they can do it so they have receipt for it, Godzilla is not that,kurama is not that either,they have no receipt for it
@@sageofthickcalves and I said continental because they've shown that they can do it,but no more than that
@@ryanfernando7033 how have they shown that they can do that?
@@ryanfernando7033 so you mean planetary attacks (AP) can happen without seeing planetary destruction (DC)?
Tentails solos
Bro don’t know about the king of the monsters 🙏🏾
@@wessilinmendez1574 no-one cares
@@akiraman7664same for you
Nah he definitely got sim stronger than his atomic breath
Auto Click video, auto press like, than watch
THATS THE METHOD 🔥
Onga