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He just says Itachi can’t CONTROL people at that distance, so it wouldn’t only apply to activation range

@@JophesCT 💀

@@sageofthickcalves W

@@Jcoombs2011 it’s Bluebird 🫡

Who lied to you and told you that???

@@soJTS to be completely fair, we don’t have a usable metric for what Kakashi’s stamina at 12-13 would be. It could’ve been better than part 1, since 12-13 year old Kakashi is in the ANBU and part 1 Kakashi is out of shape. Also, Kakashi cut a bolt of lightning with his Chidori while in the ANBU. The slowest part of a lightning bolt travels at Mach 587. Gaara’s sand defense is calc’d at Mach 25-30, so base Sasuke is a bit above that. If we assume a 4x multiplier for speed (standard blitz tier level difference) with CM1, that gets him to Mach 100-120. If we also assume another blitz tier amp for Chidori (which is generous), that gets him at MAX to Mach 480. Since CM2 doesn’t offer a speed boost, Sasuke at his absolute fastest would just be slower than the speed we can get Kakashi to. Since FV Sasuke has a newly awakened 3 tomoe sharingan, and 12-13 year old Kakashi would’ve had his 3 tomoe sharingan for 1-2 years, he’s also probably got better perception. Keep in mind, 12-13 year old Kakashi had been on the battlefield fighting life and death battles with grown shinobi for 6-7 years already. It’s outright stated in Fanbook 1 that he was in these types of battles from the time he became a Chunin at 6. So this means he also has a MASSIVE experience advantage. I’m ngl, I was being super generous to Naruto and Sasuke here.

@@user-kx4cm8sv6w you could never prove Ay was going all out there or that it wasn’t just a mental amp for Bee

@@sageofthickcalves the onus is on you. This is also exactly what i mean by being disingenuous, since we have direct statements of bee being more talented, then get a direct statement that he surpassed A.

@@user-kx4cm8sv6w the onus wouldn’t actually be on me since you made a positive claim that Bee surpasses Ay, but we can go over it regardless. This is simple. Databook 4 states Ay has the greatest combat power in his village. Bee also notes that Ay is going full power during his final attack against Naruto, indicating that he WASN’T full power during the lariat. And finally, Bee specifically notes that Ay’s words from long ago are what made him strong enough to overpower him in that moment. So we have a direct statement putting Ay > Bee, a direct statement implying that Ay wasn’t going all out in the lariat clash, and a direct statement indicating a mental amp for Bee there.

​@@sageofthickcalves the onus is on you to prove its momentary, since you acknowledged it happened Regardless, the databook directly contradicts your interpretation of it being momentary when it states bee 'never' lost sight. Bee even still went on to say he would get even stronger. The entire narrative of those chapters showcases it. This is what I mean by disingenuous. You think going from v1 to v2 is a larger amp than all the power from the eight tails is for bee? and samehade? Bee demonstrated he surpassed him, that's what the narrative showed us in those chapters. Your interpretation just doesn't make any sense in the narrative at all.

@@user-kx4cm8sv6w I said “ you could never prove Ay was going all out there or that it wasn’t just a mental amp for Bee”. Where in that did I acknowledge that Bee surpassed Ay? I only stated you could never prove Ay was going all out OR that it wasn’t a mental amp. I then provided evidence as to why both of the things I hinted at would likely be true. I never actually made a claim outside of “you could never prove x or y”. It’s ok if you don’t really get how burdens work in a debate sense, but let’s not pretend just for ego preservation. The statement you’re referencing could just mean that he never lost sight of the goal he had or the words that Ay said to him. Doesn’t defeat the idea that it could be a mental amp. Show to me how the narrative puts Bee > Ay there permanently. You could genuinely never prove that. You’re currently on the assertive because you claimed that Bee surpassed Ay, so unless you can provide a likelihood for that being the case, over it being a case of Ay not being at full power and/or Bee getting mental amped, then you’ll have to concede this point.

@@KAKASHI-nx3jp Kakashi slaughters

@@sageofthickcalves ...yo you're not like any other youtuber, really whenever I asked you anything you always respond to my question as fast as shinra . Thank you bro..... Big fan..

@@KAKASHI-nx3jp I appreciate the love bro! I try to engage as much as I can 🙏🏼

@@sageofthickcalves ❤️‍🔥.

@@397llederson6 1: If they’re special jonin level in CM2, the 4 of them should be able to beat up 2 fatigued special jonin. 2: Kidomaru has “unparalleled precision” in CM2, and we don’t know if he got space during the fight or not. He easily could’ve. 3: Tayuya would still have her summons

@@sageofthickcalves 1. They can’t be jonin level in all areas and it doesn’t help that cm 2 last about 5 minutes and it’s trying to kill you by how much it drains because Sasuke for example couldn’t use cm 2 for more than a punch a chidori before he was exhausted and coughing blood. 2. He has damage on his body 3. That are not damaged or implied used in the fight. So either they didn’t do much or were not used.

@@sageofthickcalvesAlso they dont state that they were pushed to their limits fighting them as in they could barely win in cm 2 but cm 2 exhausts them

@@397llederson6 1: Prove its 2-5 minutes. Sasuke is a bad example because he hasn’t mastered CM2 yet 2: Baki? He had scuffs, but Genma has more 3: Bro prove that lmao

@@397llederson6 They literally state that they’re so tired they can’t use their bodies for a while. And Kidomaru says they went all out.

@@397llederson6 with MS, yes. Without MS, no.

@@397llederson6 Sasuke definitely does not scale to Haku

Kabuto was amping their techniques with senjutsu

@@sageofthickcalves So what? Amplification =/ complete ownage. The jutsus have to be good as well, hence the ranking of them (C-rank, B-rank, A-rank, S-rank).

@@charzanboo9940 the jutsus can be good, but they’re not normally anywhere near the level that they were during the war

@@xeroxreload2099 Amaterasu doesn’t have good AP initially. It barely does any damage outside of sustained attack damage

@@sageofthickcalves maybe it’s showings aren’t the best but it’s literally stated to be hotter than the surface of the sun and it’s definitely stronger than Sukunas fire arrow well atleast Sasuke version of it

@@xeroxreload2099 why isn’t Sukuna’s fire that hot? Also, lightning itself is hotter than the surface of the sun

This glazing is getting out of hand. mahoraga can adapt to any and all phenomena genjustu work when chakra is imported into the brain sukuna can just rct his brain nobody in the akastuki can stand a chance

@@oscarperez5539 probably

@@rapidcougar3785 Why is Genma top 10 in the village?

@@sageofthickcalves he's completed the 6th most amount of missions in the village 2S 74A 454B 220C 185D, knows the thunder god, was minatos hokage guard is on par with sunas #1 jonin baki, can spit a stick as strong as sakon can throw a kunai, was on aoba and guys genin team,

@@rapidcougar3785 6th most missions according to what we’re aware of. We don’t have mission counts for every jonin. Knowing FTG is cool, but so do the other 2 dudes who helped him transport Mei and they’re not that strong. Being a part of Minato’s Hokage guard is the only really impressive thing here, since he would’ve been 16. Spitting a senbon is cool, but people spit stuff at high velocities all the time in Naruto. Being in Aoba & Guy’s genin team doesn’t really matter tbh.

@@dropexfn I showed why they can be

@@dropexfn who told you all of the Akatsuki are immortal with infinite chakra???

@@ryanfernando7033 characters don’t have to destroy a planet to be planetary. We know for a fact that characters can output planetary levels of force without destroying the planet they’re on. A good example of that is Black Frieza one tapping Goku & Vegeta, all of whom are universal + by both feats and statements, without destroying the planet they’re on. It’s interesting to me that you’re willing to give a character continental without seeing them destroy a continent, but not planetary without seeing them destroy a planet 🤔

@@sageofthickcalves its ok for the Dragon ball z character to be known as planetary or star level because they've already shown in the past that they can do it so they have receipt for it, Godzilla is not that,kurama is not that either,they have no receipt for it

@@sageofthickcalves and I said continental because they've shown that they can do it,but no more than that

@@ryanfernando7033 how have they shown that they can do that?

@@ryanfernando7033 so you mean planetary attacks (AP) can happen without seeing planetary destruction (DC)?