Doom Review (PC) - Worthabuy?

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  • A look at the Doom Single Player campaign and discussing who it will appeal too, the classic Doom player or the Doom 3 fans.
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  • @jamatron19
    @jamatron19 8 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    The executions were actually added due to it being a widely loved feature of Brutal Doom, something only on PC, so assuming they were only added to please the console audience would be completely ridiculous

  • @neilburger2921
    @neilburger2921 8 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    I dont know if its just me, but saying a game is soulless really is a damning and negative thing to say. I feel that mindless is a much better term for fast paced, relatively silly shooting. Soulless, by definition, is quite the opposite of Doom. Doom is bright and colorful, fun and fast paced, which is pretty much the opposite of soulless. Battlefield 4's singleplayer is, soulless, but Doom certainly manages to be more than just a lost soul (huh huh). I can see that this looks phrased as almost negative, but I was just voicing a particular nitpick. The video ( as most of Worth A Buy's content ) was interesting and enjoyable, I guess that one thing just rubbed me the wrong way.

  • @_doxinho
    @_doxinho 8 ปีที่แล้ว +467

    I swear you think console players did 9/11

    • @bobitysteve9509
      @bobitysteve9509 7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      that because they did`

    • @theendurance
      @theendurance 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      ...you think they didn't??

    • @thomasmc9611
      @thomasmc9611 6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Planes can be easier to fly with a controller ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @Stedal1978
    @Stedal1978 8 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Mac seems to miss the point that Doom 3 was an anomaly in the series that was not well received. Doom fans have been crying out for a return to the gameplay of Doom 1 and 2. Don't get me wrong, I like Doom 3 because I like linear story shooters but Doom should never have become that.

    • @Stedal1978
      @Stedal1978 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      *****
      Sorry mate you're wrong. I was around too and reception was mixed. I like the game but you can't pretend their were a lot of fans that were not happy the direction the series took with Doom 3.

    • @IRMentat
      @IRMentat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      main complaints I remember were the constant spawning of demons behind the player (cheap shots), the weak level design (coridoors galore) and that torch, dear gods that torch was worthless, a candle would have been more use that that god damned fucking torch.
      Otherwise decent.

  • @matthewstorr1042
    @matthewstorr1042 8 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Mack I must say I don't agree with your points. Doom wasn't a story driven experience because of hardware limitations, it was made to be a fast past action game. I still go back and play it today due to the fact it has aged so well. I don't play Doom 3 anymore because I find after a couple of hours it becomes a boring slog with slow combat and constant jump scares.
    The new Doom is a corridor shooter, and you don't have to ration your supplies and locate them around the labyrinthine maps of the Dooms of old. I think this new game tried to capture the evil dead style of dark humor that the older dooms had but went a bit far and turned into a comic book affair (even uses lines from the Doom comic).

    • @matthewstorr1042
      @matthewstorr1042 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But it isn't like the original dooms at all. Start a level of Doom1/2 and your likely to quickly come to a few branches in the path that wind around the level in different ways, and often you can grab keys and supplies in different orders. In the new doom its a line ---- room --- room --- room like all modern shooters. And the way ammo/health and combat works is a lot different.

    • @matthewstorr1042
      @matthewstorr1042 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      CanadianCombatWombat
      On the spectrum of FPS games, Doom 2016 and Doom 1 couldn't be further apart. That is like saying Dune 2 is like Total Annihilation, they are totally different.

  • @superduperjew
    @superduperjew 8 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Doom is the best FPS I've played in a very long time.

  • @InsaneEnergy
    @InsaneEnergy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I don't know, if you want my opinion I feel like we've had too many games similar to Half-Life, and going back to a simple shooter is a good thing. Doom purists were clamoring for a game like this, too.

  • @TBrianOnline
    @TBrianOnline 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Glory kills suck" - pretty much what I thought 10 minutes down the road in this game. Wouldn't be so bad if they didn't leave you open to attacks. Btw, this game still doesn't hold up to the first Doom, it had much more impact and atmosphere at the time.

  • @WorthABuyreviews
    @WorthABuyreviews  8 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    ok Since everyone is asking, here is a link to the old Doom 3 reaction video th-cam.com/video/zHaH5FMJQZA/w-d-xo.html This one is a much better one th-cam.com/video/rmuHHdzAUCw/w-d-xo.html

    • @FrontSideBus
      @FrontSideBus 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Worth A Buy That takes me right back. I still have them all saved on my hard drive from when I originally downloaded them 12 years ago!

    • @219SilverChoc
      @219SilverChoc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Worth A Buy whats your oppoin on Brutal Doom

    • @zeusonjuice
      @zeusonjuice 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Worth A Buy Mack, you and Mesh were the dream team and so underrated. I still watch the amnesia and nightmare house playthroughs for a laugh. Good times!

    • @MisterMakerNL
      @MisterMakerNL 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Worth A Buy Should have copyrighted reaction video's......

    • @spasmmcspasm
      @spasmmcspasm 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Worth A Buy Lights out headphones on and turned way up. There I was creeping along with my flashlight out when my wife put her hand on my shoulder..........I leapt out my seat and almost put her lights out. Shame its not Doom 4 I may have been tempted to fork out the outrageous $110au they want for it.

  • @ryanjacko1
    @ryanjacko1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love when you talk about your history in the gaming scene, Mack. I'd like to hear more

  • @Zimba9810
    @Zimba9810 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    dead space is for scares doom is for blowing up monsters endlessly so i think the new doom is better

  • @ITOWords
    @ITOWords 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "It's rewinding time and going back 20 years to the original." Mack that is a good thing. Half Life is a brilliant game, but Doom should not be the game that tries to replicate it. The new Doom is great, it's not supposed to be a thinking game just a fast paced FPS, which it is. BTW How the hell do glory kills ruin t the game? They are great fun to perform, but if you don't like them you don't have to use them so how they come in for criticism from you is little perplexing.

  • @lewiswhatley687
    @lewiswhatley687 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As someone who never got to experience the more simple, less story driven era of FPS, I'm glad that there is a new game that takes that simple approach. It's also interesting to see how the younger and older generations have such differing opinions on what this game should have been.

  • @ZLau13
    @ZLau13 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would argue that Doom 1 and this new Doom are not just soulless shooting. Mobility: exploring the maps and finding secrets is a part of it as well.

    • @ShagadelicBY
      @ShagadelicBY 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ZLau13 But are the secrets relevant like in the old Doom or are they all just gimmicky things like finding little dolls that look like you?
      What secrets should include:
      -Guns you wouldn't unlock that early otherwise
      -Ammo and health (shouldn't been spread around the way it is and not dropped out of the exploding assholes of demons)
      -If they insist on having perks, these things should be hidden as well
      This would make the game a little more interesting. At least to me

  • @LateNightHalo
    @LateNightHalo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    My only issue with the new doom are the glory kills, over than that I love the new doom! It does everything that doom 3 failed to do in my opinion (I love doom 3 to death but it's not really a doom game). Doom 3 is a good half life cross over with doom but this new reboot is a glorious return to Doom's fantastic, fast paced, explosive combat!

  • @zookwick
    @zookwick 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Hah, I enjoy the hell out of Doom 4 for the very reasons Mack doesn't like it. I want the badass fucking kill everything at high pace murder murder MAIM KILL FUCKING DIE DEMON SCUM FUCKASJDKASASDAS... Etc. I love the fact that there's barely any story in it, I just want to shoot the shit out of demons, just like I did back in 1995. I like that they brought back dodging projectiles like in the first Doom games. I think the weapon modification system works well. It's not in the way, you can surely finish the game without using any of the mods, but they still provide a sense of progression. While you're getting better at the game as a player, your weapons are also getting more powerful at the same time. While this happens you get harder enemies, bigger hordes of demons, eviler evil, etc. It's just fucking lovely.
    I also love the graphics and the soundtrack. The sound effects are great too. The weapons feel meaty as fuck and the demons sound like I imagine demons would sound.
    Personally I thought Doom 3 was a piece of shit. Slow paced, boring combat, a story that was as retarded as a straight-to-DVD sci-fi horror. It was amazingly beautiful but that was it. If you wanted an FPS with some depth back then you played Half-Life 2.

    • @Seraphyx
      @Seraphyx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Simon Johansson That's kind of how I feel about racing games. I wish they would fuck off with all the ridiculous bullshit stories they throw in. Idc if it's something minor but like the latest need for speed game, I can't even believe a game like that was released. It's unbearable. But for fps games I do like the story driven games. Fear is probably my favorite fps, and for me that had the perfect amount of story I would want but wouldn't mind a bit more.
      Custom map editor and multiplayer is what is the most interesting to me about this doom game so far.

    • @NickHunter
      @NickHunter 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup. Some people just don't get it lol

  • @EmpuGaming
    @EmpuGaming 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I like you're reviews, but disagree with this review. It was refreshing to play a game where you don't have to wait 30 minutes to use your gun, or listen to dialogue you don't really care about. The combat had great flow and glory kills were great (I was worried it'd get old fast, but it never did.) And hell, the soundtrack was amazing!

  • @EvilTim1911
    @EvilTim1911 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My preferred difficulty level is Ultra Violence. Nightmare has gotten too frustrating ever since they added target leading to the enemy AI, but that same addition made Ultra Violence more enjoyable for me because it used to be a bit too easy. This review was made before the AI was modified, and medium difficulty was a complete cakewalk. If you aren't in your forties with terrible reflexes and eyesight, you owe it to yourself to play this at a higher difficulty level.

  • @Chris-B.
    @Chris-B. 8 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I am really enjoying this game and I agree with Mack that it is mindless shooter but it does exactly what it says on the tin and it does that very well. I am glad you relaxed your opinion of the game Mack.

  • @harleycow5551
    @harleycow5551 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm not mad at you mack. I'm just disappointed

  • @leewakadia5153
    @leewakadia5153 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Mac, you didn't compare this game to wow. Is everything okay? ;)

  • @yoshi88mario
    @yoshi88mario 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the parts in the video where you put on a childs voice and shout to 'mom' or 'Dad', really cracks me up haha

  • @boredtodeathwth
    @boredtodeathwth 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    However if you come home from a long days work and just want to kick some ass, this game is the fucking balls!

  • @PhoenixxFM
    @PhoenixxFM 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Doom is super violence with insane guns, you're killing Demons with shotguns, it's fun and fast the multi-player is similar, I thoroughly enjoyed this game. That's the point of Doom fast and violent

  • @kaktotak8267
    @kaktotak8267 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "Story in a game..", Mack. id finally made a game that their fans wanted. I guess you just don't like id games then. You want games for escapism, while some want games for pure interactive fun.

  • @CDOODY1999
    @CDOODY1999 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    your forgetting doom isn't half life. why should doom reinvent it's self to be that type of game. It's a great reboot. modernising graphics and gameplay in meaningful ways. rag on the mp all u like. It's what doom should be.

  • @Chozo_Ghost
    @Chozo_Ghost 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Personally, I LOVE the Glory Kill system, however I can see why others might not be as fond of it. At the very least, they could have put in an option to turn the Glory Kill system off.

  • @DB-xz1sb
    @DB-xz1sb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    first day purchase for me. It's great great fun

  • @Caluma122
    @Caluma122 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have loved all the Doom games. This one was just so much mindless fun that I loved it.

  • @KondraEK
    @KondraEK 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By the looks of it, it does not look like you are playing on Nightmare mode. You don't have to unlock it, it's just have red colors next to locked Ultra Nightmare.

  • @raveheart4782
    @raveheart4782 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I enjoyed the classics as well as Doom 3, I can say I'm loving the new one. Perfectly fine with it being a mindless shooter like the originals. I see they tried adding to the universe through codex's and holograms, I'll probably check them out after I'm done with my senseless massacre.

  • @darthgiorgi4990
    @darthgiorgi4990 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Actually, glory kill system and chainsaw is a brilliant idea - if you kill demons brutally - you can continue to kill demons brutally because they give health and ammo. It keeps pacing up and glory kills are fast to execute, so the flow isn't interrupted. As for upgrades, or "perks" as mac calls them ,they are to to empower you along with guns and while increasing the difficulty, actually give you a challenge and give a sense of progresion, that you started weak, just 100% badass, and at the end you're 10000% badass. iWeapon upgrades are good because they keep early weapons relevant to the end, unlike old doom there if you got rocket launcher or bfg, that was all you needed to play and go forward. well, to each his own, but i must say not every game must be half life ( coming from a huge half life fan) , because half life is half life and it's best at being half life and it's no use to copy it if you don't understand it properly ( like doom 3 did, which made for annoying first half of terrible horror part which didn't fit the doom franchise at all)...

  • @TheNecrumDavengers
    @TheNecrumDavengers 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If a developer one day will make a game similar to Half Life and Doom 3, then i will throw money on my screen!

  • @shoople46
    @shoople46 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's like 15 hours if you find all the secrets

  • @Xanderman
    @Xanderman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In the end it´s all about having fun. And it looks to me like the new DOOM is just that. Looks awesome, or at least the campaign does.

  • @AlexanderPews
    @AlexanderPews 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just realized when u said it.. YOU ARE MACK, from Mack and Mesh's channel, omg I watched u back in the days, it was like 2006 or something!!!!

  • @SwornHeresy
    @SwornHeresy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I enjoyed Doom 3 and ROE, but I like the way they approached this Doom by taking it back to its roots with a modern touch. My goty so far.

  • @markoos88
    @markoos88 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love WAB but this is like complaining Mad Max: Fury Road (DOOM) isn't like The Dark Knight (Half Life 2). Yeah TDK is better, smarter, more admirable, but that's not what we need right now. Mad Max came in like a bull in a china shop and went 'SICK OF ALL THIS HALF-WAY SHIT? HAVE SOME OF THAT!!!' Pure. Brutal. That's what DOOM is.

  • @jimpanrooney
    @jimpanrooney 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Sounds like the game for me, thanks for your review! Your reviews are one of few good left

  • @BUckENbooz
    @BUckENbooz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can never tell by how he talks if he's being sarcastic or serious, but that laugh at 1:08 sounded so genuine.

  • @garethayres7874
    @garethayres7874 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is one of the best games I have played in a long time. I'm so happy with the speed of the single player. Not played Multi player yet but looking forward to it. Mac do you remember the UKCCL in Q2?

    • @WorthABuyreviews
      @WorthABuyreviews  8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Gareth Ayres Yes but back then we played Jailbreak which was not in that league so I never played in it.

  • @TheGnarlyPigu
    @TheGnarlyPigu 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you still have your old doom maps you made? Would love to try them out!

  • @getsufuma2597
    @getsufuma2597 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't care for the aesthetic, the demons look more like aliens.

  • @1seanv
    @1seanv 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't there a rune that reduces splash damage to yourself, or an armor upgrade that reduces or even removes it?

  • @TheMet306
    @TheMet306 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    "This game is not like the old games I liked, it's shit"
    this is basically the channel from what i've seen

    • @biffodio
      @biffodio 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But he said this is very much like an old game he liked.

  • @KanoWhite53
    @KanoWhite53 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mate, remember that first time you pressed space bar on a a Nazi poster to reveal a secret room!?
    Mind = Blown

  • @robinannaniaz9670
    @robinannaniaz9670 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dude you should upload the footage of your first video game reaction.
    It's gaming history man!

  • @EddTanner
    @EddTanner 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For those of us who only use a PS4, this was a godsend, shit game after shit game, then this came out and it does what it says on the tin! - Doooooom! It does what Doom back in the day did, which is what they promised.

  • @teddybeddy123
    @teddybeddy123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What do you think about Brutal Doom?

  • @baybursa6202
    @baybursa6202 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you find the levers?

  • @Skullooky
    @Skullooky 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing video dude, i was like ah, hmmm, nah to DOOM but this change my mind, now i am going to buy it!

  • @Chris-B.
    @Chris-B. 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question Mack - (I apologise if this has been answered before on previous videos). As a game reviewer, was it your choice to use a mid range gaming rig for your reviews? As seen here you have medium settings in Doom due to your gpu. Is this a deliberate choice to simulate the performance of the majority of pc gaming machines out there? Or is it because you never sold your soul to the devil (gaming publishers) to enable you to build the best rig money can buy? I must try mirror your settings to see if there really is a difference, but everything maxed, it does look juicy on a Titan X

    • @WorthABuyreviews
      @WorthABuyreviews  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Chris B Yes I had the option to upgrade a year ago but thought it was better to emulate the majority. Now however I must upgrade as this rig is falling apart, even to boot up I have to enter the bios lol

    • @Chris-B.
      @Chris-B. 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Worth A Buy A great time for you to maybe grab a GTX 1080. I am even tempted me to retire my Titan for one.

  • @THerculez
    @THerculez 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think you should review the gaming industry over the last 10 years, i could see it being very entertaining, to see it go to absolute bantha piss lol keep up the good work you've saved me a lot of money.

    • @ickerolig
      @ickerolig 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +HerculezGaming Haha yeah I remember watching one of those "if quake/doom was done today" videos. And someone said osmething spot on in the comments section. Was something about how he despised Quake 4 when it came but after being fed the dumbed down console ports the latest years it has now become good.

  • @noahgarza843
    @noahgarza843 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its been about a year since the subnautica review are you going to look at it again soon?

  • @Vermilleno
    @Vermilleno 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excuse me but did you even attempt to look into story itself in this installment? I suppose not when you're bashing it as a 'moronic shooter'.

  • @c9plms823
    @c9plms823 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you save the edition of PC Zone that featured your maps?

    • @WorthABuyreviews
      @WorthABuyreviews  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Erik McLeod Yeah I did, I also had about 300 X-men and Avengers Marvel comics that would be worth a fortune today but I got married and left home, put them all in a suitcase in the attic, 20 years on and my Mother got her attic insulated and all my old stuff is now on a land fill site :o She thought it was old junk :( Lost them all now.

    • @c9plms823
      @c9plms823 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Worth A Buy dear god...

  • @LemurFromTheId
    @LemurFromTheId 8 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    It's funny how you dismiss Doom as a "dumbed-down, moronic shooter" where you have to "disengage your brain" - and then you complain that you can't just mindlessly rocket everything in sight like you can in some other shooters. Sorry, in Doom you have to actually pay attention to your surroundings and use AOE weapons with care.
    Also, you didn't play on Nightmare, which *is* the highest you can select for your first playthrough. On Nightmare enemies don't come to you and wait for you to kill them; they just do everything they can to *finish you off*. You get health from them when you Glory Kill them, but not *nearly* enough for you to play recklessly. And while you can't be killed during a Glory Kill, executing it in the wrong place will leave you completely exposed (after which a single powerful hit can easily kill you), so you have to be smart about when you do it and when you don't, because Nightmare absolutely punishes you for your mistakes. It's tough, but it's also fair.
    You also didn't say anything about the chainsaw having limited uses. Against the biggest demons you can only use it once without having to re-fuel. And yeah, it replenishes more or less of your ammo - depending on the enemy type you use it against - which is half of it's purpose. But in Doom you're not meant to struggle against running out of ammo - the point of limited ammo is that it encourages you to alternate between different weapons, and with different weapons having very different properties (in particular with their upgrades) and different demons having different strengths and weaknesses, there's a complex dynamic where it's actually beneficial to think and plan which weapon to use in any given situation - while allowing personal perefences and playstyle.
    Doom isn't *nearly* as mindless as you seem to think. It's telling that when you "disengage your brain" while playing it, you enjoy it the most when you tone down the difficulty. Many, many others enjoy it the most while cranking the diffculty up and playing it with mindfulness.

    • @WorthABuyreviews
      @WorthABuyreviews  8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +Aedolon ofc it's mindless, I streamed it today, took 2 phone calls while playing, ran around like a prick and never died once, it's mindless, just a big pew pew fest but it is fun.

    • @LemurFromTheId
      @LemurFromTheId 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Worth A Buy And are you saying a good player can't do that with all these more cerebral shoothers out there? Sounds to me like just about any other game.

    • @zahadou
      @zahadou 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Worth A Buy I don't have the time to invest in a game these days. My Sunday afternoon is now a once a month Sunday afternoon. Tasks like blowing up a Zeppelin in Wolfenstein - when I work out what to do - I 'get it' - the game mechanics - but don't have time to fukk about doing it 100 times. These days I enjoy the experience rather than the outcome, so to say.

  • @TitiusBodeVids
    @TitiusBodeVids 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yo mack you ever played brutal doom mod ???

    • @LionMartell
      @LionMartell 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He really should check that out. Once you play brutal doom mod you can't go back!

  • @miljanvasilic1857
    @miljanvasilic1857 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank god this is not like doom 3. If I want to play horror scripted games with very bad combat, I would like doom 3. But how crap that game was, its great news they are actually going back and making a game where combat is so fun, fast and complex, compared to doom 3 an half life 1.

  • @wongoli
    @wongoli 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should add a classic mode where you can't melee, limited pistol ammo, ammo map drops (enemies don't drop health or ammo), you get rewarded for finding secrets and stuff. The doesn't look optimized for level of gameplay but they should add that just for fun.

    • @Necromorph790
      @Necromorph790 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +wongoli wongo They have classic maps if you unlock them in the secrets

    • @zookwick
      @zookwick 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +wongoli wongo Well to be fair enemies dropped ammo in the original Doom games, at least the Zombiemen, Shotgun Guys, and Heavy Weapon Dudes. And you can just refrain from meleeing if you want to. I guess the only thing that's completely new is the fact that enemies drop health, but that's such a minor issue imo, it just makes the gameplay more fluid.

  • @googlefish80
    @googlefish80 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mac I'm going to just say I love this game way more than you do.....that is all

  • @VegetarianZombie
    @VegetarianZombie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doom 3 was pretty controversial when it came out. I know a lot of people weren't happy with the direction that the series took. Instead of fighting scores of demons en masse, you only fought a few of them at a time.
    Personally, I liked Doom 3 and I would have been pleased had Doom continued in Doom 3s footsteps, but I'm just as pleased as this direction.
    That said, one correction Mack -- Doom 3 was released before Half Life 2. If anything Doom 3 influenced Half Life 2 instead of vice versa.

  • @Scarlet1604
    @Scarlet1604 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The glory kills are the best part, I love watching them.

  • @dannquest567
    @dannquest567 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What did you think about System Shock whe it came out ?

    • @GatorMilk
      @GatorMilk 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dot Doty It is a point and click, not a shooter, but System Shock Portable and System Shock Enhanced are great.

    • @dannquest567
      @dannquest567 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      System shock 2*

    • @GatorMilk
      @GatorMilk 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dot Doty System Shock 2 is alright. Not as good as System Shock Enhanced, but SecMod 3.0 makes it a lot better. My grievances are with the much more limited level design, mostly.

    • @dannquest567
      @dannquest567 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like so much System Shock 2

    • @GatorMilk
      @GatorMilk 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dot Doty Night Dive is one of my favorite studios. They port and remaster old games, port old games, mod old games, and remake games for the PC. Kaiser and Co. are amazing. Turok: Dinosaur Hunter WAS MY DAMN CHILDHOOD, and thier port gave me a shot of HARD DAMN NOSTALGIA. Doing Turok 2 could actually make it into a good game, and then the level editor - something I petitioned Nintendo for as a kid - oh, oh baby. If the DooM community is anything to go by, Brutal Turok with some nice user levels would be fucking amazing.

  • @Spills51
    @Spills51 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    IDK< I hate pretty much all FPS games except ones like this. PainKiller was the first FPS game I played with a big stupid grin on my face the whole time.Way I see it if you want drama, story etc the market is flooded with options.Sometimes it is nice to just jump in and wreck shit just for the sake of doing so.Fun is and always will be the top priority in games and if this delivers it has done its job.

  • @VernnMiller
    @VernnMiller 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got a link to that reaction video? Had a PC back then but no intertubes.

  • @martinrangelov7438
    @martinrangelov7438 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He want's a sequel to DOOM 3, that game was 90% pitch blackness and 10% audio logs?Thank god the developers didn't go for
    that...

    • @thedeadguy2456
      @thedeadguy2456 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes thats what made it great the idea of chosing to have your flashlight or your gun out

  • @jesusmannwhaaat
    @jesusmannwhaaat 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude this has to be the most spot on review you've done lately. Where are the damn rocket jumps! You're making me dream of quake multiplayer days, rocket jumping, flying at 300 mph flames and sparks coming off my character, exponentially increasing in speed, breaking the sound barrier, switching to the rail gun, railing the enemy with the flag about to score a point, that announcer "HOLY SHIT!!!". Feels good man.
    This really sums it up. I'll wait for it to go on sale to at least $40 or so. Still looks great! I can let it sit for a while. Thanks! keep it up.

  • @benadams6332
    @benadams6332 8 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    In my opinion Doom 3 wasn't really a Doom game, absolutely loved Doom 1 and 2. Just mindless fast paced fun killing lots of monsters and solving a few basic puzzles on the way.

    • @c9plms823
      @c9plms823 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Alfred Stampe yeah I thought Doom 3 was a huge buzzkill. I can appreciate id trying to create a more "highbrow" game but when something dons the "DOOM" label I expect brainless challenging combat and room crawling. On the other hand I absolutely adore Dead Space. Sort of a double standard

  • @benziegler3973
    @benziegler3973 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you be doing a review of Offworld Trading Company?

  • @dustinethridge7863
    @dustinethridge7863 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol, I dig your honesty. "Hard" is a subjective term, it means different things to different people. To me, hard is something like contra, castlevania, super ghouls & ghosts, or games like UFO defense/XCOM & devil may cry on must die mode. I guess I'm a glutton for punishment, I really want to be challenged. So far doom on Ultra-nightmare is scratching my itch, I've started over several times now, one of these days I'm gonna make it. Wish me luck ;/.

  • @rich9695
    @rich9695 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey mack what part of the uk are you from you sound like someone from either sunderland or Newcastle haha ?

  • @leonardodavinci7425
    @leonardodavinci7425 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've played this on the ps4 and I love the glory kills and I love this game! This guy hasn't a clue what he's talking about!!!

  • @georgidobrevmusic
    @georgidobrevmusic 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You dont have to use the perks?

    • @orchidpigeon156
      @orchidpigeon156 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Georgi Dobrev It should not be an option in the firs place.

  • @LeuLeumas
    @LeuLeumas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow didnt expected reaction like this (I was on the stream where you had a rage)

    • @nickopollo
      @nickopollo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Leumas レオ Meh he always does it :) He probably was hangry and haven't had a cup of tea before stream.

    • @LeuLeumas
      @LeuLeumas 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hungry* but never mind and it is kind of true

  • @mestido
    @mestido 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But you don't have to use glory kills or weapon wheel :)

    • @orchidpigeon156
      @orchidpigeon156 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +mestido It should not be an option.

    • @lucariolps277
      @lucariolps277 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Orchid Pigeon why shouldn't it be a option?

    • @PeaPea8D
      @PeaPea8D 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ssbj144 I've already done it. If you can beat brutal doom or project brutality cranked up, this game isn't gonna be way too hard.

  • @reggiemass909
    @reggiemass909 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Souless & lifeless"? What game has soul and life to you? Just so we know where your measuring stick is.

  • @salwaby
    @salwaby 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey Mack what's your Battle.net account ?

  • @noneofyourbusiness910
    @noneofyourbusiness910 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I don't know why anyone would think that Doom needed to continue in the direction of Doom 3. Doom 3 wasn't a universally loved title. A lot of people hated it and even described it as this reviewer describes Doom 1: a moronic shooter. People said that Doom 3 was stuck in the past, that it was boring, repetitive, too dark, etc., etc. There were people saying that its gameplay was too much like the originals where all you do is go down a linear path, kill monsters, and collect keycards in order to move on. Only in Doom 3, you collected PDAs instead. So considering all the criticisms that were thrown at that game, I don't why anyone would think that it would have been wise for Id just to make a remake of Doom 3.
    Although, I do agree with the reviewer that they should have kept a few more elements from Doom 3 than they did and that they should have tried to make Doom 2016 more immersive. I don't think they should have gotten rid of reloading, nor should they have made the demons spew out health and ammo upon dying. And the armor and health pickups should have blended in with the environment like they did with Doom 3.
    Other than that, I think that Id actually did a pretty good job with this latest iteration of Doom and made the right choice by going more down the action route rather than the horror route because that's what really made the original Doom games so awesome: the hard, fast, brutal, and bloody action. This game is a lot of fun and I would recommend people to buy it.

  • @WILLINGLYWILD
    @WILLINGLYWILD 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    When will you be doing your uncharted 4 review mack?

    • @Tk-sh3bf
      @Tk-sh3bf 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is lots of games coming out in this month so its probably not soon

  • @hergie409
    @hergie409 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    "Sadly Glory kills ruin" aaaaaand Im done watching

    • @andreiteo6883
      @andreiteo6883 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they are shit

    • @fuckso2342
      @fuckso2342 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +The Dark Night You can disable them lol. Plus they were in brutal doom as well.

    • @andreiteo6883
      @andreiteo6883 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ave true to Caesar i didnt say you cannot i said tgey are shit

  • @AWESOMESAUSEY
    @AWESOMESAUSEY 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked your review but you kind of strayed off just a bit when talking about the reaction and mesh plays doom thing. Just saying but pretty good review. Are you going to talk about the multiplayer or snap map at all?

    • @WorthABuyreviews
      @WorthABuyreviews  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +AWESOME CHAOS Did a long video on multiplayer when it was in beta and as very little seems to have changed I don't see the point.

    • @dustins7714
      @dustins7714 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Worth A Buy yeah buddy

  • @romandoo
    @romandoo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I love the intro. You explained everything and i agree with you. You did not just mindless rekt the new Doom. Like i said, i didn't liked the third Doom and i enjoy the new one, but this is a good review. Mack, you got my "like".

    • @toot1231
      @toot1231 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Romando Kraus evilquest!

    • @romandoo
      @romandoo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +toot1231 Wow, someone actually knows what that is :D

    • @romandoo
      @romandoo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Frank Castle Nah i think its total opposite of Doom 3. It's not even scary.

    • @roxykiata
      @roxykiata 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      you do know doom has strategy just whatch what can we learn from doom game makers toolkit

  • @MaTtRoSiTy
    @MaTtRoSiTy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He's right in that it is a dumbed down moronic shooter but it is a very well made and great looking moronic shooter that can be satisfying fun.
    The sounds in this game are great along with the music which fits perfectly.
    It isn't the best game ever made but it is great for some fast paced no brain required shooting

  • @gunsentry8349
    @gunsentry8349 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Its great loving it for what it is.

  • @korbeskorner
    @korbeskorner 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have my HEXEN t-shirt. Big bloody X on the front, Hexen logo on the back. Is that worth anything? $$$?

  • @JPDD2
    @JPDD2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    10 min of complaining

  • @FINALB
    @FINALB 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    When it was the last genre invented? And which game was that?

    • @TheWayoftheSith
      @TheWayoftheSith 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +FINAL_B The classic run-and-gun shooters was invented by ID software with Wolf 3D & Doom. While Valve pushed it into a atmosphere driven shooter/puzzle/platformer with no cutscenes and excellent level design. RTCW is an example of the latter, while Rise of the Triad is an example of the former. Shadow Warrior (remake) is a newer example of the more fast paced run-and-gun shooter but with a emphasis on story & with some weapon/power upgrades as well. The new DOOM (IV) certainly does have speed/gore going for it but it lacks the challenge those games had (console generation).

  • @wittepinda
    @wittepinda 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    60 bucks (or 20% less with MACK's code) for 10 hours of singleplayer, and a failed CoD 'class' multiplayer game where you can't even pewpew like Quake 3/UT and you're held by a caring mommy the whole match through playing with 10 year old kids. No, god no.
    0 out of 10. I get nostalgia, but this is horse.

    • @Volti102
      @Volti102 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Aab Baab www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/doom-pc-cd-key-steam
      I got it for £21.99 before it released. I'd call it worth it for 10 hours of single player. The Multiplayer does suck balls though.

  • @thompsonevergreen8006
    @thompsonevergreen8006 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm playing on high and still get 40-70fps what you doing man? i only have a gtx 950

  • @leesutton3394
    @leesutton3394 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm perfectly happy with the game. I'm only on the fourth level and I am having the best time. This is Doom. It's exactly what I wanted out of a Doom game. I enjoyed Doom 3 and I'm appreciating the similar aesthetic but the gameplay is so fast paced and frantic, it takes me way back to my childhood. I am playing as you put it; a complete prick and it's an absolute blast. I can see myself replaying on a higher difficulty when I'm done and check out that survival mode.

  • @alphatonic1481
    @alphatonic1481 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can i get my hands on those DOOM1/2 wads you made?

  • @Pyroteq
    @Pyroteq 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don't know why you'd want yet ANOTHER generic shooter... How many do we need? Do we really need another game that has a 30 minute opening scene before you finally get to shoot your gun, followed by following an NPC walking at a snails pace for 10 minutes, followed by a turret scene, followed by a vehicle chase scene?
    I love Half Life. I also love Doom. I love Deus Ex. I enjoyed Doom 3 too.
    Doom 4 is basically filling in the void that has been left in gaming for far too long. Sure, we've had the occasional Shadow Warrior and the Blood Dragons that are basically a giant "fuck you" to the AAA gaming industry, but to see a real, bad ass classic style FPS with this sort of marketing hype is freakin' awesome.
    Maybe we'll FINALLY see a rise in popularity of arcade FPS again thanks to this.

  • @SquirmyElk2
    @SquirmyElk2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PC also has that weapon wheel. Hold Q by default.

  • @Caluma122
    @Caluma122 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've come back to this review two years later.
    I revisited Doom 3 again late 2017 early 2018 and I have to say that I'm glad Mack thinks Doom 3 was a step in the right direction.
    Since first playing Doom all them years ago, I've bought it three more times, played it start to finish on the hardest difficulty once every few years and I must admit, enjoyed it more this time round than any other. Doom 3 is a terrific step forward in Doom narative and is an absolute masterpiece in my opinion. The lore, the voice acting and the scares are phenominal.
    I haven't reinstalled this Doom since completing it when it came out, and I can't see myself reinstalling it. It's a fantastic fun game don't get me wrong, but I don't think it will stand the test of time like Doom 3.

  • @bombsquad747
    @bombsquad747 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the invention of the shovel was a truly groundbreaking moment

  • @samz8691
    @samz8691 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is just a serious sam knock-off disguised as doom with bad modern gaming cliches.
    I mean for FFS unskippable pointless cutscenes where you look at stuff you turned on for 5 seconds or that near 30 second long segment where you're locked in a room even though you have a Helmet with a HUD so the transmission could just play on that.
    Oh and weapons are found only when the game decides you need them, no possiblities to find them early or anything to actually reward finding secrets.
    Classic Doom was maze-like levels with demons, this is just mind-numbing arenas.

  • @Reyma777
    @Reyma777 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beat this on Ultra -violence on PS4 and loved it.

  • @Mtaalas
    @Mtaalas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In my view Doom 3 was the stale, jump scare ridden and boring one from the series...
    It's all a matter of perspective and what one wants from the game.
    When you compare new Doom it to Doom 3, you're comparing it to the one game in the series that was different from all the rest. This is really a breath of fresh air in a FPS genre that's been staled to "Call of Duty" mould.
    It's fine, it's your _opinion_ and luckily we as consumers can watch different reviews and come to an over all conclusion based on multiple reviews instead of trusting one "authority" over all else. :)

    • @gamephreak5
      @gamephreak5 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Religion LOL No it wasn't, Doom 3 didn't even feel like a real Doom game. It was slow and boring and the story was crap.
      DOOM 2016 is the true sequel we should've gotten back in 2004.

  • @connormaclean6214
    @connormaclean6214 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey mack, will you be doing a wab for wow legion or no?? I would like to here your opinion on it even if you no longer have an interest in playing! Thanks