hi wobbly.. I don't know if it's just coincidence but I was just asking this in rom discord. thanks for clearly demonstrating the presence of this mechanics. just a quick question, does placing an accessory in shadow equip slot affect the hidden pen bonus?
I need to test whether the shadow equip does anything for the pen bonus. This is a question I have heard people ask many times, so just a coincidence. I have cited those percentages before but I wanted to explain it in an easy way for people to indeed. Afterall, not everyone is convinced just from looking at code or from seeing the damage change. I put both together since that is what convinces me
There are a lot of hidden mechanics in the game. To be honest, it makes it fun. There's a lot of possibilities. Who knows, there is a secret OP build waiting to be discovered. Btw. I would like to ask if Saitama's successive punch is affected by AA damage increase? I'm trying to build AA Saitama. Thanks
People who looks at the code usually discover these things. And profits while everyone else stills ignores them lol Saitama has two smaller "punchs": the sucessive one is a skill I think, but the regular one (at the Adventure skills section) should be AA. But it's very slow.
My fire era relic isn't maxed, whereas my lov is more maxed. The burst while fire era is active is what I mostly use it for. I haven't calculated the loss of damage and whether it compares to lov. Also, sometimes I use the footgear card fallen bishop, which gives 15% demi human damage which is nice. I don't have a good footgear guard that adds damage.
@@WobblyWallaby what do you advise? I already have lov, chaotic blade and picolo. I am still unsure of what relic to go for next. I use thor, rath and khalitz for pvp and ronin, rath and khalitz pve. I wonder if fire era relic is worthit or not.
-_-' that should go in the refine description and appear at character stats, instead of being hidden. There is really no reason to hide this information...
It was an old RO mechanic that the devs didn't actually care if you knew about it ALTHOUGH if more people knew then more people would refine = more money idk why gravity is so dumb
Tried and tested, it works on my level 99 alt with no guild ever. I also used Survivor ring clean, +1, +6 and +10 to check, same setup for the dummy. Clean and +1 auto attack damage would be 5590, then for +6 it would be 5644 then for +10 5697.
Do you mean the added refine attack per refine level? He used survival ring due to every refine level hp will be added and not refine attack. I think you should rewatch the video 5 more times bro.
This topic has long been discussed already. I don’t know where you got your info, but please give credit to where it is due. th-cam.com/video/0oNIRmYG9g0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=v-1cAkw8SBvOCEjW
The hidden penetration has been long discussed in the Ragnarok mobile official discord channel. I am just looking at the code from ROM handbook to confirm and doing some damage tests. I also look at ROM handbook for other code to confirm stuff in the game because I am curious about it
@@avernakh There are still some who are skeptical regarding the hidden pen, plus showing it on the code and explaining it further shows a more convincing argument to those who are still doubting the idea of having a hidden pen mechanics. I do agree with crediting to those who discover it first, but it's not the point of this video and they are not even claiming that they discover this hidden mechanic in the first place.
@WobblyWallaby Gaming Your video clearly explains it! Good Job and thank you for Penetrating me 😁
Very nice test showcase using different refines of surv ring!
Thank you for making this as simple as possible. :)
thanks for this ❤
hi wobbly.. I don't know if it's just coincidence but I was just asking this in rom discord.
thanks for clearly demonstrating the presence of this mechanics.
just a quick question, does placing an accessory in shadow equip slot affect the hidden pen bonus?
Maybe yes but just 50%. Its easy to try guiding by this video.
I need to test whether the shadow equip does anything for the pen bonus. This is a question I have heard people ask many times, so just a coincidence. I have cited those percentages before but I wanted to explain it in an easy way for people to indeed. Afterall, not everyone is convinced just from looking at code or from seeing the damage change. I put both together since that is what convinces me
There are a lot of hidden mechanics in the game. To be honest, it makes it fun. There's a lot of possibilities. Who knows, there is a secret OP build waiting to be discovered.
Btw. I would like to ask if Saitama's successive punch is affected by AA damage increase? I'm trying to build AA Saitama. Thanks
not idle bru i tested
People who looks at the code usually discover these things. And profits while everyone else stills ignores them lol
Saitama has two smaller "punchs": the sucessive one is a skill I think, but the regular one (at the Adventure skills section) should be AA. But it's very slow.
Is this passed on to the homunculus?
Hi, you have fire era relic? how does it compare with lov for ronin in wsa? thanks
My fire era relic isn't maxed, whereas my lov is more maxed. The burst while fire era is active is what I mostly use it for. I haven't calculated the loss of damage and whether it compares to lov. Also, sometimes I use the footgear card fallen bishop, which gives 15% demi human damage which is nice. I don't have a good footgear guard that adds damage.
@@WobblyWallaby what do you advise? I already have lov, chaotic blade and picolo. I am still unsure of what relic to go for next. I use thor, rath and khalitz for pvp and ronin, rath and khalitz pve. I wonder if fire era relic is worthit or not.
Can you explain claw on ora mirror, it only gives +15% on refine 15, why not adding all, thanks
you sure it is hidden pen or just the additional refine atk from guild kindly check without guild?
Bravo😊
which is better tail gear almost a pass tail or its too late.?
Is this also true for shadow equip?
Wondering the same
Bro does phantom have hidden pen?
is there hidden pen with shadow equipment too?
up
-_-' that should go in the refine description and appear at character stats, instead of being hidden. There is really no reason to hide this information...
It was an old RO mechanic that the devs didn't actually care if you knew about it ALTHOUGH if more people knew then more people would refine = more money idk why gravity is so dumb
wondering how many more modifiers are hidden, i wish dev make it easier for newbies
Hi.. Can you explain elemental damage vs matk vs mpen dmg increasd?
Retest bro with an alt character without the guild refinement bonus.
Tried and tested, it works on my level 99 alt with no guild ever. I also used Survivor ring clean, +1, +6 and +10 to check, same setup for the dummy. Clean and +1 auto attack damage would be 5590, then for +6 it would be 5644 then for +10 5697.
Nice bro. Thanks.
There is max for pen and m.pen converted to dmg inc? This article is very informative though I still go for +15 gears -genrou20 sea
That is something I need to look into. From what I have seen there are no pen or m pen caps (like ignore def), so usually a very safe bet
i think it come from guild buff not hidden
omg!
How about refine atk? Haha
Do you mean the added refine attack per refine level? He used survival ring due to every refine level hp will be added and not refine attack. I think you should rewatch the video 5 more times bro.
@@synalva7490there is also refine enhance in guild alchemy forge
there are three in alchemy merging. can u set this as matk?
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Lol😂
This topic has long been discussed already. I don’t know where you got your info, but please give credit to where it is due.
th-cam.com/video/0oNIRmYG9g0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=v-1cAkw8SBvOCEjW
The hidden penetration has been long discussed in the Ragnarok mobile official discord channel. I am just looking at the code from ROM handbook to confirm and doing some damage tests. I also look at ROM handbook for other code to confirm stuff in the game because I am curious about it
@@avernakh There are still some who are skeptical regarding the hidden pen, plus showing it on the code and explaining it further shows a more convincing argument to those who are still doubting the idea of having a hidden pen mechanics. I do agree with crediting to those who discover it first, but it's not the point of this video and they are not even claiming that they discover this hidden mechanic in the first place.