5 Warriors *YOU* Think could beat The Mountain... But Couldn't! Part 2/3
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- We read the comments and saw warriors from Ayra Stark to Khal Drogo being suggested as being able to topple the mountain.
Well we picked your Top 5 and explain why they couldn't stand a chance in defeating Gregor Clegane.
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As someone who does actually does do HEMA and is only 5'3 I can vouch that yes, closing the gap when fighting someone bigger then you without getting hit is *super* hard, I've gotten my ass kicked a million different ways sparring with people who are 6 feet, forget fighting someone who's 8 feet! 🤧
Artsy has spoken ! 😂
Have you tried taking up faceless assassin training? 🤔
Haha I've dabbled in HEMA too bud that's how I knew when I wrote the script, reach is such a massive factor in combat of any kind! Unless of course your like oberyn and have a weapon that compensates it.
Thanks for watching! Liam
Im 6' 3 with a very long reach. But ive im trained in wrestling not boxing. You might see me and think you need to get close but thats where im at mt best
@@jonathangodin4775 well they can't outreach you so win win i guess
Reach is definitely an advantage but experienced fighters are very good at closing that gap.
People that think that Arya could kill Gregor are the same people that say: "Bro once i'm in a fight, i just see red😈🤓" and proceed to get their insides tied around their neck
Fantastically accurate lmao
True Bram, I've dabbled in MMA, Kenjutsu and HEMA. Size matters, strength matters and reach dam sure matters! The small guy can sometimes win, but it's 100% the exception not the rule. Arya is my favourite character and even I think she's finished -Liam
Arya killed the nightking, it's called plotarmor, not realistic combat analysis.
I've been in fight and really have this. My brother is taller, way more muscular and a lot tougher, but if we're both honestly mad, I win. It's adrenalin bro, it does crazy stuff to you.
I seen that tra rags video too
Oberyn Martell actually killed the mountain, they had to turn him into a zombie for him to keep going, so I think that match was a draw at least
At the Fandome we think its fair to say he won! He beat Gregor in combat, he just got a little cocky before delivering the killing strike. If Gregor had got back up im sure oberyn would have kept putting him on his back! Thanks for watching! Liam
In the book Oberyn drives his spear through Gregor's gut with such force that the haft snaps and he's consequently impaled on it. Gregor then bear hugs Oberyn further onto the snapped haft, and punches his head to a pulp with a mailed fist before succumbing to his wounds (Manticore Poison from Spear Tip not withstanding)
Verdict: Draw
Wrong. His hatred kept him alive
Agreed. Oberyn did defeat the mountain. It was his arrogance that led to his death NOT his lack of skill.
I mean, Oberyn actually beat The Mountain. If he wasn't a revenge filled dumbass he would have lived. He already had him on the floor and at his mercy.
Bronn is one of the most skilled fighters in GoT (and he'd generally do near anything for Tyrion), and he refused to fight the Mountain when Tyrion asked him. That should say a lot.
To add to his skills, he play and fight dirty, man doesn't care for honor so telling him to fight in a trial by combat against someone who Bronn wasn't sure he could beat is a no no.
As Bronn said himself, he could beat him, if he fights a perfect fight but if he makes one mistake and its over, and he doesn't like the odds, lets say The Moutain would win 90 % of the fights (number just grabbed out of nowhere), would anyone go into that fight believing you had a 10 % chance of winning, certainly not a man like Bronn.
lol before he met Tyrion he was just another common swellsword bro, "most skilled fighters in GoT" 🤣
Bronn was also just hella smart literal definition of pick your battles wisely
Bronn wasnt even in the top 10 of Westerosi fighters.
Me: "This guy's wrong, Drogo would totally win!"
Me after remembering the Dothraki vs Jorah: "...I've made a huge mistake."
Welcome to the darkside 😂
Drago is not just another Dothraki.
That Dothraki was not Drogo and was caught with only an anti-light infantry weapon at hand. It makes absolutely NO SENSE to think Drogo would go with daggers and anti light infantry weapons to a duel he can prepare for. And if Drogo gets weapons capable of damaging the Mountain, well, he is far more skilled, is also pretty strong and has also a lot of experience in combat. Probably he could defeat the Mountain just as Oberyn did.
@@simonsalgueiro6217 Thing is Dothraki do not understand armour, its not in their culture, tbh I think Drogo would beat Oberyn quite easily, but the fight against mountain would end the same way as that bloodraider, maybe he would be able to dodge the swing after his weapon stuck, but that's just maybe.
@@simonsalgueiro6217 It makes sense because those are the weapons the Dothraki use, the Dothraki do not use swords or spears in the books or show, nor do they use clubs. This is likely because the Dothraki never really had to fight people in full plate, so they don't have much experience with that, and the fact that they typically are on horseback. While the curved Arakhs they use would be horrible against armor on the feet, on horseback it'd do alot of damage against any heavy armor just due to the kinetic energy coming in on a horse.
It would make very very little sense for Drogo to use a spear like Oberyn as it isn't a weapon he's trained with or has any experience with, not that spears take alot of time to learn, but it still wouldn't make much sense for a Dothraki to suddenly use them.
Young Robert Baratheon with his hammer, would have been the most intersting match up.
I second this.
If you speak of the Polearm Warhammer not this Fantasy nonsense Robert might have the upper Hand. He would have range advantage and size and strenght of young Robert should come as close to Gregor as you can get.
I think Robert would have him down very quickly. A clock to the head with that warhammer (especially the books unfeasibly heavy depiction) would likely give Gregor a forever nap. Thanks for watching! Liam
@@shifterverse he would definitely give him a fight but idk if he would win we only saw him beat average size people
Agreed. Young Robert would have a good chance.
Sir Auther Dayne takes the Mountain; highly skilled, great awareness with proper armor. The Sword of the Morning would take anyone.
Exactly, Sword of the morning welding the Dwan is invincible, if it comes to one to one.
He can beat anyone he would obviously beat the mountain his fight iq is the best in all of game of thrones
I agree I think Aurther would be the one to beat the Mountain fairly one on one probably no one else without cheating.
But he's dead before the setting of the TV show and books .
@@mattygee37 So he'd be fighting a toddler mountain! I think i could even take him when he was still a child of 4 ! I think, anyway. He was riding down knights by 10 or 12. No, i'm pretty sure i could take him when he was 4
One detail about the Mountain not a lot of people mention is how perceptive and precise the Mountain can be. In the books when the mountain kills the knight at the tourney, the hound mentions that the mountain had noticed how his opponent’s gourget wasn’t put on properly leaving his neck vulnerable and so deliberately aimed for the throat so he could kill him. Which is a pretty impressive feat I would say considering how hard a target the neck would be while ride a horse in a joust.
Oberyn Martell, one of the coolest characters in the show, did beat the mountain but was so focused on getting a confession that it cost him his head.
To answer the question; you'll need a fighter with superior arms and skill. There was one such fighter a knight named Ser Arthur Dayne, The Sword of the Morning.
Agreed that Oberyn did beat him, and beat him soundly but let his ego and temporary stupidity take hold of him. I think Arthur Dayne and even Barristan Selmy in his prime would make short work of The Mountain.
@@darkstar6909 are we forgetting Robert Baratheon himself, maybe even Brandon stark (the old one).
Exactly! He should have completed the task!
yup, stabbed in the back by a Reed. Seemed an crappy death for the Sword of Morning.
@@JTheTeach well that's war.
I see the Mountain as one of those fighters that gatekeeps the truly great tiers of fighters in ASOIAF, where your Oberyns, Garlan Tyrells, and Barristan Selmys reside
dont forget young Robert
Arthur Daynes as well
Let us not forget Strong Belwas
@@durrangodsgrief6503 who could forget the late great Bobby B???
@@daddy_1453 of course Arthur Dayne, literally in GOAT contention 💪🏿
Robert Baratheon in his prime could take the Mountain. I imagine Robert during the rebellion as physically stronger but of equal skill to the Hound. Bobby B's not as strong as the Mountain, but he's strong enough to ring his bell, and his warhammer backed by his strength is just the tool to deal with Gregor's armor. Selmy and Author Dayne take Gregor with low to mid difficulty. Jamie pre hand chop could take Gregor mid to high difficulty.
Robert lowkey didn't want to deal with the mountain which is why when he was having a temper tantrum after fighting his brother he simply told the knights to let him go
@@Alrokako Well yah that was 17 years of excessive drinking, eating, and whoring Robert Baratheon. And it was the Hand's tournament so further unnecessary bloodshed by having dudes try to subdue the mountain would have been a bad move, easier to just let him cool off
@@Alrokako Robert "highkey" wanted to joust in that very tournament until talked down from the idea by Ned. Doubt he feared the Mountain at all.
@@tylerwellman8252 He didnt want no problems with the mountain bruh any other soldier would've lost their life acting like that
@@Alrokako Agree to disagree. The only problem Robert didn't want was with Tywin Lannister. His dialogue even states this. And yes a common soldier most likely would've been dealt a harsher punishment, even death. Gregor was an anointed knight though, one in service to Tywin.
Jamie before he lost his hand could probably do it. He devoted his life to his sword. When he went against brianne he was hungry, sleep deprived and cuffed and she said she couldn’t imagine what he would be like at his best. She knew she would die under any other circumstance. I love the writing because we hear how badass he is but we never really see it.
Then hypothetically so could a younger Ned Stark, who was holding his own against Jaime at his best until someone sliced his leg from behind
@@michaellarocca4879 I mean by show yes although you could argue Jaime didn't want to kill him and in the books ned falls of his horse instead.
@@cokelover-nb1qz he wanted to fight one on one. He knew Stark would never willingly surrender, and he wanted to best him to humiliate him, so the only way to get that would be to beat him and either disarm him, or kill him outright. Taking him alive was just a bonus. He threw an 8 yr old off a tower. Killing a man who his family already condemned to death, in one on one combat with no repercussions was certainly in Jaime's wheelhouse.
@@cokelover-nb1qz also, Ned was in his 40s. He was in great shape and still trained, but a little past his prime, and STILL was holding his own against Jaime at his best.
@@michaellarocca4879 This is a show invention. In the book it's made clear that Ned has no chance against Jaime. It's like playing Michael Jordan at basketball
As a HEMA practitioner,, love hearing the reference! The reality of fighting someone like The Mountain in his full plate is that you'd need to have full plate as well to resist the cut from his great sword and probably be armed with a pole axe or a Lucerne hammer as those weapons were specifically designed to defeat plate armor.
Even then. The Mountain wearing plate, mail, and boiled leather, and carrying an oak tower shield and greatsword..... he's an absolute unit. The show didn't do him justice.
didnt oberyn even reference this as well? or was it just the line "in Dorne we are fond of spears"
Thanks Donnie! I've dabbled in HEMA so I knew from experience. We once had a fencing master fight a journey man spear practitioner as the fencing masters way of demonstrating the importance of reach. The sword master managed to overcome the spear a grand total of once out of roughly 30 attempts. It can be done but its very bloody difficult. Your spot on about the armour too. Gregor can probably use the great sword as a concussive weapon against plate but it at least prevents the glancing blows from slicing you up 😂 your also spot on about the weapon, you need something with reach that can equalise/exceed the damage that gregor can give you. Thanks for watching!
yeah you would deff need a pole axe and go for the head. being in plate armor yourself helps but the mountain would realize he would need to close the gap and wrestle you in order to get a dagger into the gaps of your plate armor. better keep your distance but at the same time be aggressive and go for the head.
For a HEMA practitioner I'm surprised that you did not address: *Acceleration* , *Deceleration* , *Leverage* and *Weight* combined with *Momentum*
In books, it's said that the Mountain wields a two-handed sword in one hand as a normal person wields a one-handed sword in one hand. In reality, we can't do this(wielding two hand sword in one hand as effectively as one hand sword in one hand) because of weight and leverage. That does not concerns Mountain. Now about the momentum and weight, Imagine having a hydraulic machine swinging two hand sword with high psi(pressure), an unarmored person would be cut in half, and the armored person would die due to his organs being devastated by kinetic/concussive force.
I think that G.R.R.M got carried away when depicting Mountain prowess in terms of "balance patch".
What about Daario Naharis? I feel like he would be smart enough to use a long range weapon and to taunt the mountain
Interesting, but would the long range weapons be enough to penetrate the armour, or have the accuracy.
@@TheFandomeClips I mean he throw a knife at long range good enough to kill a horse. Plus he fought in the pits, so I think he would be able to hand a long spear like the viper?
I mean, it's hard to count him out after that statement. I think it would just be interesting to see him utilising those weapons like a long spear etc.
Maybe!
@@flapablesteak8986 the knife would bounce of the mountain’s armor lol
My man's threw a dagger into the eye of a full charging horse at a long distance. I'm sure he could throw one into the eye of The Mountain
Wonder how Robbert Baratheon in his prime vs the mountain would pan out. Wasn’t he something of a mountain himself
People need to remember that the mountain wields a great sword with one hand. In the book he carries a heavy oak shield. Add to that his armor is made thicker than the average man's. All because of his second greatest advantage which is his preposterous strength.
The night king could beat the mountain
Yeah, I think that goes without saying really 😆
Idk about that, maybe pick balerion to be safe
And yet pretty much all The Mountains fights were more dynamic than night king's fights
@@mihaimercenarul7467 we didnt even see the night king fight a single fight. We dont know how skilled he is beside being a necromancer. When we go for his human "form" which was sacrificed by the "children", he is just some ordinary guy, not the slightest idea of a fighter.
@@ranzigerkaefer if the Mountain had Valyrian steel, maybe there's a chance, but a single strike from the Night King's spear can kill a dragon. Gregor is fucked 99/100 times.
Jaime with both hands, or Ser Arthur Deyne.
I'm not sure Jamie believes that though. He seems to hold Arthur in high esteem in almost god like fashion when describing him.
Also the sword might be a factor to apparently. Can't remember where but I'm sure Martin stated that Selmy and Dayne were on par with Dawn being the difference maker.
A young Ser Barristan could definitely take down the Mountain. Given that he had fought and killed Maelys the Monstrous, who was also described as being freakishly large and strong.
@@Connor.SG-1Ring Barristan is addressed in our 2nd who COULD beat The Mountain video that has yet to be released, as well as a 500 word apology for not putting him in the first one 😂. Liam
@@TheFandomeClips Theres about 15 combatants that WOULD most likely take down Gregor Clegane. Far more than just 5 who COULD take him down.
@@surkit6465 thats why we have multiple could Vids in the works, we're just letting the topic rest and breath a bit after this vid bombed a little 😂
People tend to forget one thing when comparing fighters in these scenarios: There was a reason every knight in Westores feared Gregor Clegane
Sure Prime Barristan Dayne Jaime Robert Oberyn Aero Hota could take him down but just 1 misstep and it was over for anyone of them
Thats literally the case in any fight with anyone not just Clegane. So a pretty stoopid statement in my opinion.
In a trial by combat, no matter who your opponent is, one mis step can lead to your death😊
@@ahgksiJaime Lannister gets in a punch and you at worst stagger a little, Gregor Clegane gets in a punch and you are down on the ground and at his mercy.
Barristan Selmy grabs you and you can with difficulty pull yourself out, Gregar Clegane grabs you and he rips of whatever part of you he caugh.
You are in range of Arthur Dayne and you can at least block his hits with a shield or your own weapon, You are in range of Gregor Clegane and you will at best loose your weapon or shield if he hits them with his sword.
@@ahgksi it's not that easy, you can one misstep against someone your size and strength and may recover from the blow but if you have just one misstep against Gregor you get squashed
@@goatlover6312 Jamie Lannister wont punch you, he will slice you up , during a mistep, he is one of the greatest Swordsmen. Not everyone will punch in a fight.
You not only failed to understand the point of my statement, you also made statment contradictory to yourself which actually supports my own statement.
🤦🤦🤦
@@ahgksi And you misunderstood the point I made, if Jamie so much as stumbled on a pebble then Gregor would be able to use that as an opening. Any attack from Gregor is basically fatal while it’s incredibly hard to get in a fatal attack on him so most opponents would have to dodge around him waiting for an opening and one mistake would lead to him getting a hit in and killing his opponent. Jamie is one of the few opponents who could manage to defeat him by dodging and hitting weak points but still there are many mistakes that would easily lead to his defeat.
Jamie could end up close enough to be grabbed, dead.
He could misjudge distance and be hit by Gregors massive blade, dead.
He could miss one of the weak points in Gregors thick armor making his hit worthless, dead.
Jamie could stand still within range a second too long, dead.
Jamie could be blinded by the sun and miss an attack, dead.
If any of those situations were to occur to Gregor the chances are big that he would just shrug off the attacks as his armor is a near impregnable fortress.
I agree! the red viper as you said is highly trained, studied war tactics and fighting styles at Harvard of Westeros. he was in exile and travelled globally in that world picking up fighting styles in the free cities, in the fighting pits as a gladiator, formed his own mercenary company and was a soldier in a mercenary company before forming his. he is highly educated and can wield many different weapons. Oberyn is as deadly as it gets and it took him years to get to that point before he stepped into that ring.
this. people don't seem to understand that there is almost no way for a person in the story to be a better fighter than oberyn. it would simply be a giant plot hole.
@@crushedscouter9522 true. That’s why I call him the Bruce Wayne/Batman of westoros. Batman went to fancy boarding schools, then took his family’s jet and traveled the world to visit and spend time with monks, trained in secret societies etc.
Oberyn did all these things and learning many different cultures and fighting styles. Jamie Lannister, is considered the greatest most natural “swordsman” in the 7 kingdoms. every fight Oberon enters he chooses weapons based on the situation and advantages vs disadvantages. When he fought lord yarnwond when he slept with his side chick he chose based on the situation. The mountain, with his 8 foot height, and long reach with his arms and that great sword which gives him an even further reach that can hack a horse,s head off with one slash, Oberon chose that 8ft spear as tall as the mountain to keep him at bay. It had that pointy end for poking at joints and weak points.
When it’s Robert he uses a war hammer and good at the melee but can’t jost or use anything other than that type of weapon really. Jamie and his sword, everybody and their swords or bow and arrow like Theon. But Oberon is the only person I noticed using multiple weapons with near perfection and many different fighting styles.
Drogo stands a good chance if the Mountain isn't permitted to wear his armor, otherwise the fight would go very similar to Jorah's fight with Drogo's right hand blood rider. While a highly skilled and brutal close quarters combatant and by no means slow, I still think Drogo may lack the speed and agility required to avoid the Mountain's attacks long enough to successfully target his armor's weak points the way Oberyn did.
Drogo would slaughter the mountain easily if the fight is without armor
yeah drogo is basically a smaller version of the mountain with no armor... that is to say both rely heavily on size and strength and there for Drogo won't be winning
Drogo will annihilate the mountain.
Why would drogo not wear some armour. And use a spear and a blade. This nonsense. Oberryn stabbed him so then obviously a master at fighting the best seen in the show undefeated khal drogo will murder him. Nonsense of drogo getting tired 1st is absolute rubbish.
The great khal will murder him
Idk I feel like Drogo's speed and agility points are close to being maxed out.
He dodged that Dothraki's attacks effortlessly and his weapon was much, much faster than the behemoth sword the mountain heaves around.
Obviously the match would come down to plot, but I think its within Drogo's demonstrated skill set to be able to bob and weave his way in close enough to land a killing blow with one of those daggers he casually tossed aside before ripping that guy's tongue out through his throat
John got better after fighting Tanner, he learned how to really fight and got rid of his training yard skills after the attack on the wall I believe he became a remarkable warrior
The Mountain's weakness are never mentioned in videos like this. Apart from his gigantism, Gregor is also constantly suffering from a skull-splitting headache. This constantly keep him in a state of rage (emotions overtaking any logical thoughts).
Oberyn didn't have to expend much energy to defeat him. Judging by this I would say Robert in his prime, Jaime, Arthur Dayne, Barristan Selmy or Brienne could have done the job. Robert especially would have made quick work of him with his hammer.
Jaimie, Robert, Arthur, Selmy, and Brienne would all also know how to exploit the fact that Greggor used a two-handed weapon with one hand. Greatswords are not even heavy. It is the length that would make it unwieldy the way Greggor uses it, and all of those fighters you mention would exploit that. I think everyone you mention could defeat him, and I agree 100% that Prime Robert ends him quickly.
But he also drinks a lot of milk of the poppy
Aren't we overlooking a certain badass fire retardant biotch? One word...Dracaris and he done. Well done in fact lol
Daario probably beats him to
Briene is a physical fighter she doesnt have the skill or speed to defeat him
The mountain is tall and super strong and has the reach and enough speed to land a blow. He is heavily trained and wears full plate. The problem of fighting him is if he lands even one blow against you that is probably the end of the fight, this guys cuts horses in half with a single blow. Any fighter no matter how great they are would not want to face the mountain in combat as the chance of getting killed is very high.
Oberyn had years and years to study the mountain and come up with a plan to defeat him. You could say he went so far as to develop his fighting style in the way he did to specifically defeat the mountain. He knew exactly what to do.
If Drogo had the same information and prep time he could beat the mountain in a similar way but it's unlikely he would fight his opponent that way.
Oberyn didnt really study the mountain. And how would he? He was never with him, didnt spar with him, didnt observe him nothing. The mountain is ridiculously tall and muscular thats it thats all he got. And Oberyn knew that and developed a fighting style to match this type of opponent.
The Mountain is a skilled knight who's had years of training and experience, he's not just muscles and height. He's decently fast and skilled with a sword, not exactly an easy opponent.
Problem is mountain wears armor. Even a spear is useless against armor realistically you need a hammer or polearm perhaps an axe a sword or spear wouldn't work cause armor does work just not in TV or movies where it is made of tissue paper.
@@DustinDonald-cz9ot Can't spears pierce plate if you're strong and the spear is well built? I'm probably wrong but that was my impression :P
@@emie9858 would depend on tip but not likely, you could pierce it with a sword as well if you can knock him on the ground and get him with a coup de grace but the sloped manor of plate it will just glance off it is why most spears were done away with in favor for halberd much thicker staff and a much longer and thinner longer spike mixed with an axe/hammer head and a much thicker spike on one end. Spear was fine against lightly armored troops but full plate no.
Like trying to pierce a can with a knife unless it is held down and cannot move you aren't piercing it and trying to cut through your strikes will just glance off it.
People often forgot that Drogo main ability is leading his army into battle
I actually still think drogo could take the mountain because the reasoning this video gave was about gear. We don't know if drogo could use a spear or not. For all we know he may be fantastic with one and may be able to easily figure out the mountains weak points. If you take off the mountains armor then drogo wins for sure. If you take away weapons and armor than the mountain wins for sure. I think if you allow the mountain to have armor and drogo to do as he pleases it is more even but with the mountain probably winning in the end.
@weshouser821 if we go by book lore, the argument is even stronger. drogo would ride circles around the mountains larger but slower horse and stick him with arrows until one landed true or enough caused bloodloss.
And he has a extensive armory full of high spec weapons, not to mention valyrian steel arahks exist.
The other major reason Drogo doesn't have a ghost of chance against the Mountain is...he's way too stubborn and not very bright. He intentionally took a serious sword wound just to prove a point and died from an infection 💀Gregor is a genius in comparison
I mean, it didn't get infected until the witch made it so, so lay off Aquaman.
@@billybones1694nah in the books drogo literally puts dirt in it
@@diogenes7663 Wait, that isn't what you're supposed to do for a bleeding wound? Rub some dirt in it to help the blood clot?
@@diogenes7663no, in the books he takes off the wound dressing from Mirri Maz Durr after a day and drinks alcohol and milk of the poppy, which she told him he must not do. It’s deliberately ambiguous if Mirri Maz Durr sabotaged his healing from the start or if Drogo going back to the Dothraki way did.
@@j.c.jeggis1818 I mean yeah he does all that too but he does put mud in the wound
Jaime Lannister, O brien Martell, Aurther Dyane and Barristan Selmy are 4 people I believe can bat mountain.(In their prime)
Yes Barristan Selmy
Jamie would probably need a hand though.
@@martindormer2116 jaime had a hand in his prime
And prime Robert
@@pigbenis5295 I guess robert can manage somehow.
Oberyn used poison in his fight against the Mountain. So if poison and other tools are allowed, I can see Jaqen winning.
Jaqen would use a bolo or some bs entanglement 'weapon'
and The Mountain would go down like an AT-AT Walker
Its not allowed.
Based on books, not show:
1.- Arthur Dayne (in GRRM words, strongests swordsman to ever appear in the books)
2.- Young Robert Baratheon (I guess 50-50)
3.- Jaime Lannister (much stronger in the books than in the show: in GRRM words, the most skilled swordsmen alive. Anyways, let's say a 50-50)
4.- Oberyn Martell (actually won, and would have survived and kill him if just finished the job instead of talking, even without poisson)
5.- Young Barriastan Selmy (almost as good as Arthur Dayne)
6.- Younger Victarion Greyjoy (he may stand a chance)
7.- Syrio Forel or any of the First Swords of Braavos (with a real sword, although they are not trained to fight full armored warriors, these guys are no joke, thus having a fair chance if they play the Oberyn game)
8.- Daemon Blackfyre (legendary warrior, seems to be the strongest Targaryen swordsman)
9.- Areoh Hotah (people forget this guy, but he butchered a white cape like if he was nothing, and wields a proper weapon for the job)
Why Khal Drogo can't: dothraki use arakhs, designed to attack unarmed enemies from a horse. In ADWD (the 5th book), old Selmy kills a super strong arena warrior that fights with an arakh with no trouble thanks to his armor. Hence, Drogo would stand no chance against almost any professional knight.
In "power levels" they would be something like:
Dayne: 100
Daemon: 95-99
Selmy: 95-99
Robert: 90-95
Oberyn: 90-95
Jaimie: 90-95
The Mountain: 90-95
Hotah: 85-95
Victarion: 85-95
First Swords: 80-90
This is my guess
How did no one suggest the giants? Either of Wun Weg Wun Dar Wun, or Mag Mar Tun Doh Weg. They would smash the Mountain into ketchup before you could say their names.
That's kinda like saying Drogon would beat The Mountain. Like no shit. It took 6 Nights Watchmen to take down one of the giants and they still all died.
@Tim Cahill The way you react to this is how everyone reacted to every fight he put in this video. When they turned him into Jason X though he had more of a chance
My choice. The Mountain would know how his opponents felt.
If walton stark could kill 2 giants before be killed, i think Gregor could with one.
People saying Arya could beat the Mountain in a 1v1 fight. Realistically, Brienne would've snapped Needle the first time she blocked with the tourney sword. Arya will be a pancake in less than a second. She could kill him 10 times over if she has the element of surprise though!
Arya. Is. Not. A. Warrior. Her "victories" over Brienne, the Night King, both Frey brothers, and even the Waif (with 3 open stab wounds and bleeding internally) are all EXTREMELY CONTRIVED!!!!
Shes an assassin! Its a totally different skill set. Both her and Jaqan could KILL the Mountain, but I don't think ethier could BEAT the Mountain. Thanks for watching! Liam
As she is an assassin, she "contrived" those victories. That's the point of an assassin
They said that in the video
Her killing the Night King was such a load of BS. To this day I'm still disappointed with that decision. The white walkers were built up to be so much more and was top 3 one of the most contrived exits of an antagonist.
@@Shawn-st2lx I agree, and I'd also add that it was pretty weird how Arya and Sansa managed to beat Littlefinger, by outwitting him and letting him walk into a trap they made for him no less. Arya and Sansa beat Littlefinger at his own game. That's just bad writing to me. They could've come up with a better way to kill him off.
I think a few lesser mentioned fighters who'd have a chance (not Arthur Dayne, Barristan Selmy, or a young Robert Baratheon) are the skillful Targaryen warriors who weilded Valyrion steel blades, like Aemon the Dragon Knight, and guys like Christon Cole, who not only was one of, if not the most skilled fighter of his era, but also had an anti-armor weapon like his Morningstar
Very valid of you to point out that the mountain isn't just wearing full plate, he is wearing like super-plate. In the book the armor that's ordered for zombie-gregor is described as so heavy that no is strong enough to move in it, and if I remember correctly that's mentioned about normal gregor as well. He isn't a monster because he can cut a horse in half, he is a monster because he is a walking tank.
I think you're underselling Jon honestly. At least in the books, he's had a fair number of scenes where his strength seemed outright supernatural, such as lifting Thorne off the ground by his neck and needing to be pried off by the Eastwatch men, or when he yanked that spear that spear out of the frozen earth in ADWD. He commanded the other brother's to take down the rest, and they struggled with them and he instead told them to burn their heads. He made it seem effortless. Like he did it one-handed. It wasn't stated either way, but the way it was written gave me that feeling.
I'd say Jon has fair odds.
Oberynn really was one of the deadliest fighters in the entire story. With a steel shield and a poisoned spear he took the most feared warrior in the entire seven kingdoms apart. Only Jaime, Barristan, Sandor and perhaps a few dead men could've done the same. Bronn I reckon could've done it, he did similar things to the knight he put through the moon door, but not without significant risk.
I would love to see an assessment of how non-show characters might stack up against the Mountain.
Its on our list Ryan! As well as bringing in some other fantasy franchises like LOTR!
That would actually be a very entertaining fight to witness!
In the books, in the fight between Gregor and Oberyn.
The contest starts on a cloudy day, with no sun reaching the fighters. As the fight goes on, the clouds eventually move revealing the sun. Gregor is the first to notice, and puts the sun behind him.
Tyrion then thinks, or comments that Gregor is dim. But within him, are the instincts of a warrior.
Bronn's strategy works in principle. But getting Gregor to actually exhaust himself takes more than just hopping around until hes tired. At this point, Oberyn had known for almost 2 decades he would fight the mountain at some point. He came well prepared, his taunts and his fighting style was very deliberate.
What about Victarion Greyjoy? He is at least in the same category due to his size and strength. He wears plate armor and axe is better than sword against armor.
I think he's similar to Brienne in this fight. A guy that relies on strength and armor to overpower unarmored sailors doesn't have a winning tactic against the Mountain
@@baldbull6808 He beat knights of the Gardens as well
Wasn't he only in the books, though?
I think Victarion, while being build like a Mountain, doesn't have that much battle experience as Clegane, as he spend many years idle after Greyjoys rebellion fell. He is also not untouchable, being cut and poisoned by minor knight duriong siege of Shield Islands, a disregard behaviour which almost cost his life.
@@gustawek What about Robert Baratheon in his prime, with his hammer.
No, Dothraki were experienced mostly in fighting each other aka unarmored foes. Jorah commented on this when he killed a Dothraki, their weapons are not able to bust through plate and they don't have the muscle memory for that kind of fighting
Yeah. Jorah is way past his prime and still easily beats a Dothraki bloodrider (elite of the elite fighters in the horde)
This was a surprisingly accurate analysis.
I absolutely LOVE the detail of the analysis in this video. Deathbattle could learn an awful lot from this
Oberyn Almost did him in but got Cocky Distracted and paid for it ..
He made it into our first "who could" video. Poor Oberyn, so dam close yet so dam far. Although I think its fair to say he did beat the Mountain in the end. That death by poison must have been agony beyond Oberyns (also painful but much quicker) demise. Thanks for throwing out your thoughts!-Liam
Oberyn DID kill the mountain
I wonder what would happen if we put the Mountain against Maelys I Blackfyre🤔
Maelys would win, hes got even more strength feats and indications to believe he is more skilled.
Maelys would have killed Gregor, Maelys was trained fighter with same if not greater strength than Gregor, Gregor is just a really big and strong brute who has got training but relies solely on his physical strength to win
Also someone like Daemon Blackfyre or Maegor the Cruel would have made short work of the Mountain
I was just about to say Maelys The Monstrous and especially young Barristan Selmy who killed Maelys
I don't know if anybody else noticed, but Jon Snow was sparring with Podrick in Winterfell just before the Long Night.
And well, not only was Jon LOSING, but Podrick was completely humiliating him. And yes, Jon was obviously trying very hard to win.
It was similar to the ending of the Brienne vs. Jamie fight where we see Jamie trying desperately to win and Brienne effortlessly blocking every strike (one-handed) while backing him up all the way across the bridge.
Loved this 👌
Gregor is so strong that its seemingly unfair. Only Oberyn could kill him and survived if he hadn't stopped midway for the confession. Revenge is a powerful motivator.
Jaquen could kill him, as his agility and experience is going for him. As a master assassin he'd research his opponent even if its a 1v1 battle.
He'd taunt Gregor and I won't be surprised to know if his blades were dowsed in poison similar to Oberyn's. The battle would be similar to Batman vs Bane and we know what the odds might be.
An assassin isnt trained for direct 1 vs 1 combat. They are trained for fast kills. And the Mountain won't go down fast and has a lot of combat experience. Stop fantasizing ninjas.
@@simonsalgueiro6217 These are fictional assassins not irl. In fiction, assassins are always trained to fight 1v1 fights. That's what Arya's training was all about.
@@abhinavhajra Not really. Saying fiction assassins are 1 vs 1 duelists is just false. It all depends on the setting. In ASOIAF, for example, you have dedicated duelists in Braavos. Those dedicate themselves to 1 vs 1 combat. Faceless men DON'T. Read their lore. They are pure assassins. They can fight, yes, but they rely on shadows, disguise, venoms and backstabbing. Fighting a knight that has been fighting his entire life is extremely risky for them. You are powerfantasizing fan favourite characters, that's it. Arya's arc was extremely stupid from season 5 and on. In the books the way it's handled is 100000 times better. Cause Martin didn't go for easy crowd pleasers like the producers did once Martin left.
flippy jump fancy trick swoosh gregor dies because ninjas are cool
Gregor is like 8 ft tall in the books. His reach is probably literally an entire mans body with a BIG F$%^ING SWORD
Great John Umber!!!! The most underrated option, definitely stands to the Mountain, same size but better skill
How about which pair of characters could beat the Mountain? Friends, foes, never met before; any two.
The idea came to me while considering a similar situation on Spartacus.
While I suppose it would be correct to call Oberyn a "well trained progeny", I think the word you were going for was actually _prodigy_ .
😂 it was written as prodigy, mispronouncation on my part
I would have loved to see how bronn would have done! He's pretty quick and sneaky too so would have been interesting.
Bronn could have done it,he’d have outsmarted the giant with cheap yet clever tactics….
The Mountain would have likely wound up with Bronn’s Kukri buried in the back of his neck after a big swing and a miss.
@@andrewgarratt5191 exactly what i was thinking when i said sneaky and quick! Great minds think alike lol he would have that knife out and flying into his neck/throat in a blink of an eye. Or strike wherever he can get through in basically the same way
@@andrewgarratt5191 lol no
@@mihaimercenarul7467 young Ned stark absolutely wipes the mountain
@@THEHOLYGAMERR Based on what?
Love this!
More of this please !!!!
One of the things I like about the books is how a bunch of these larger than life characters will never actually get the chance to cross paths, so all we can do is wonder.
Khal Drogo was basically Conan the Barbarian meets Genghis Khan.
If anything I figure it would be an entertaining fight if it happened.
with the flimsy weapons and no armor that khal uses it would be over quick
Fighter who I think might have had a chance to kill Ser Gregor in a fight (no guarantees)
Robert Baratheon in his fighting days. Robert was huge at about 2m tall (6'7"), still over a foot shorter than Clegane, but still big enough to not being at great strength disadvantage. Plus, his warhammer was supereffective against plate armor or shields. One good blow and it might break and arm or shatter a rib.
Barristan Selmy. Maybe not at the time of the War of the Five Kings, but maybe during Robert's Rebellion when he was younger, and possibly the most skilled swordsman in Westeros. However, a longsword would do anything to Gregor's armor, so Barristan might have to use a polearm or spear as Oberyn did.
Sandor Clegane. Cleganebowl might still happen in the books, and Sandor although smaller is still big and strong enough to hurt Gregor. In some scenarios he could hurt and tire him enough to land a killing blow
Greatjon Umber. One of the biggest and strongest men in Westeros, highly experienced warrior, skilled with a greatsword, he could do it with a bit of luck, but no great chances.
Jaime Lannister, pretty much the same as Ser Barristan.
And I think I'm forgetting someone else
arthur dayne.
You had me at Arya’s your favorite character 🙌
It is still funny to think how few warriors there are who could beat the Mountain. The ultimate skill check.
Should call him... "The Gatekeeper"
On another note it's interesting to see how many (show-only) replies underrate Jaime Lannister. It's clear from the books and GRRM's comments that he's an absolute prodigy, equal in skill to Barristan Selmy in his prime and Arthur Dayne (although without the magic sword) and extremely strong.
Unfortunately in the show they use him to sell various other characters:
1) We were told but not shown that he cut through Stark forces and killed many skilled fighters before being taken down (he almost gets to Robb and Robb knows that would have meant his certain death) - if we saw this, we'd understand better how much of a prodigy he is before he is maimed
2) The show had Brienne outright defeat Jaime while in the books her internal monologue notes that she is barely able to fend off a manacled, starved version of him and nobody would be able to defeat him otherwise (and his internal monologue shows how impressed he is with her)
3) The show depicts his fight with Ned Stark as being roughly equal, where in the book he is playing with Ned and Ned knows it
4) Bronn's boast to Jaime that he would easily take him out even if he had both hands is show-only and laughable if you've read the books (Bronn is definitely a skilled and cunning veteran in the books, but he's never depicted to be the sort of fighter who can easily cut through people like the great fighters do)
This does no favours to the story overall and Jaime's character in particular.
Ned and jamie don't fight in the books. Ned kills some of Jamie's men, Jaime kills some of Ned's, a chase happens, and Ned falls off his horse. Also Bronn does not boast he could easily take jamie, and he says he could ki two handed jamie while holding a crossbow.
All the mountain had to do was get a hand on someone and that was it. The raw strength that man has is rivaled by nobody in the show. They don't have him do it(as far as I know I haven't read the books), but the mountain is the kinda man that could likely remove a head with his bare hands. Really, very lucky circumstances would be needed to actually kill him the way he's portrayed. He's basically a demigod amongst men.
The Demon of Trident would have despatched him easily in his prime, if it comes to brute strength.
Very solid analysis
I got one for you: Strong Belwas. He's only in the books, however.
Peak Barristan Selmy. His feats:
-Tried to enter a tourney at the age of 10
-Became a knight at the age of 16 after unhorsing Dunk. Dunk is quite the badass.
-Trained by Arthur Dayne
-Killed Maelys Blackfyre in single combat. Maelys was also the captain general of the golden company, touted as the best sellswords in the world, and got there by strength.
-During the Defiance of Duskendale, Barristan snuck in on his own and killed everyone in his path. This included the castle's master at arms. He rescued Aerys II.
-In his old age, he was still winning tourneys left and right. When he was 57, he beat the hound on Joffrey's 12th nameday.
basically, stop thinking the viper is a weakass character, he is an amazing fighter who owned the realm combatwise and sexualwise :D
We love Oberyn! He was our first pick on our fighters that could! Guy was a legend in everyway possible! -Liam
HEMAist here. Totally agree with your analysis re Arya.
Drogo is honestly the only one i could see stand a chance. Other than The Hound ofcourse
Well obviously Prince Oberyn, Jamie with two hand’s and maybe Bobby B during the rebellion.
Bobby B during the Rebellion would have been utterly destroyed. He relies on a lot of the same skill sets as The Mountain, except The Mountain just completely outclasses him in those.
Jamie, possibly. I remember at one point in the show he says there are only 3 men who could MAYBE beat him, and the common belief is that he was speaking of Barristan, The Hound and The Mountain, meaning he believed himself at the very least as possibly able to defeat The Mountain. Also, prime Jamie with two hands was an f'n problem.
The other choices would be Barristan the Bold, and Arthur Dayne.
Barristan I think is 50/50, although if we're speaking of a prime Barristan, he'd probably wipe the floor with The Mountain.
Arthur, when alive, I also believe would wipe the floor with The Mountain.
@@jamesgarretson2922 Robert is meant to be comparable in size/strength to the mountain in his prime and far more skilled, when you include the fact that a warhammer is far more effective against full plate than a sword I think he would be very likely to win
@@loganwallace101 See, that’s just it. He wasn’t comparable to the Mountain's size and strength. He was was more The Hound’s level.
Although now that I type that, I realize you really might have a point.
@@jamesgarretson2922 so yes the Mountain certainly has the advantage vs Bobby B in regards to physically and the fact that they most likely relied upon the same fighting traits. I’m no expert mid evil warfare historian but generally I think a war hammer would be more difficult to wield and could require greater skill. Thats my justification for my assumption that Robert could have defeated Gregor. A war hammer is specifically designed to puncture plate, it’s never specifically stated that the Mountain has the strongest or the heaviest plate due to its thickness alone. Instead it’s always stated that Gregor’s size makes his plate more cumbersome than any other human could withstand.
Assuming both fighters are at an equal advantage, Roberts generally more intelligent than Gregor. He could easily have drawn the same conclusions as Bronn and Oberyn, circle him and use your shield when necessary until the Mountain tires out. Tyrion reflects that the Mountian has great combat instincts true enough, but still Oberyn being more intelligent and skilled still resulted in the Mountain’s defeat during Tyrion’s trial. Oberyn only got his head squashed as a result of his arrogance.
Bobby b weapon makes all the difference..with his immense size and strength swing that huge hammer all he has to do is land and it starts crushing his armor and breaking bones underneath..he doesn't have to find gaps or wait for misteps....the hammer is a pole weapon like oberyns but heavily weighted to smash.....the mountain would get his ass whoop
Tormund Giantsbane would be an interesting match up. Clues in the name.
He came close to being killed in the Battle of the Bastards. Granted he'd been fighting an entire battle by that time, but he'd still have no chance against the Mountain.
@@Swearengen1980 the mountain would have been in the same situation or killed if he had been there..given the actual 15ft+ giants were hopeless in that situation until th enemy were routed by cavalry
@@helvete_ingres4717 You missed my point. Tormund was nearly killed in single combat vs. Umber. Umber was the superior fighter until Tormund bit him and shoved an antler into him. Being surrounded was irrelevant and the X factor was Tormund having fought the entire battle compared to Umber who just entered the battle. So the point is, Tormund was lucky to survive fighting Umber 1 on 1, so he'd have stood no chance against the mountain and his armor. Side note - It irritates the hell out of me how a giant goes into battle without any kind of weapon. How short would that battle have been if he went in swinging a tree at the enemy?
The thing that sucks really bad against the mountain is that you can't get close, if he catches you or lands a good punch or kick, you fly off 😂
Hey fandome I was wondering what was the background music please
I don’t remember his name but there was the warrior that Ned stark said was the toughest he ever faced. He was the warrior protecting baby Jon Snow and his mother. He took on a young Ned stark plus 8 other men and downed all but Ned Stark
Ser Arthur Dayne
If Arya had her weapon from the winterfell battle, the segmented staff with something pointy on the end, do you think that would change her chances? Gives her reach and unpredictability. I know it's a show only thing, but still it might be possible she could use it as a spear and then quickly switch to the flail mode while maintaining distance to hit at armor joints.
Edit: he would also probably not see much danger in a little girl until the first cut too. Then he may go berserk though.
I don't think its enough of a game changer for her but it would definitely help her live a little longer. Oberyn was without doubt one of the very best fighters in the world and had spent years planning his tactic for that duel and he just about eeked a win. In the book his spear is much longer too (showing just how dangerous he knew Gregors reach was)
Aryas problem is getting past the armour. Getting into plate without heavy anti armour weapons like Bobby Bs hammer or a good mace makes it a game of hitting gaps, which against someone with as much reach and strength as Gregor is beyond a nightmare. Arya is my favourite character and I want to believe she can do it but its such a long short in most circumstances!thanks for watching! -Liam
I think for it to be possible she would have to never be struck at all; which would be very difficult as even she would eventually lose stamina. Even if she blocked or tried to parry, any blow coming from the mountain would break her staff or send her across the arena in two different directions if it struck home. That guy cleaved a horse's head clean-off in one stroke.
She would die in one punch let allone what would happen to her if the mountain get a hold on her... It would not be pretty
whats the name of the background song? its really good
I think its ethier a piece of You Tubes free music or from one of Tom's friends bands my friend. Tom (the channels video editor) has a soft-spot for it wherever its from as he uses it whenever I haven't managed to write something original in time 😂 I'll ask him and get back to you!
People forget that the Mountain is a brutal killer. He seemingly lives to end lives, and has a terrifying amount of physicality backing it up. And GoT shows over and over that being a fan favorite doesn't matter in these moments.
Part of the reason WOTW was so good was that Jon learned from his fight earlier when he got saved. Seeing him learn that fighting honorably was what lost him the fight, he did the opposite against the Magnar of the Thenns and didn’t hold back which is what won him the battle. Also, Jon has easily slain multiple white walkers who are easily just as strong if not stronger than the mountain. Maybe the armor does the difference, but I’d think Jon would have a chance more or less.
Maybe Arthur Dayne in his prime could take the mountain with a pole arm like a halberd but that's a big maybe. Always confused me when people said Drogo could take the mountain since Jorah proved that Dothraki don't know a good way to fight people in full armor, Nobody is beating the mountain in brute strength especially when he's armored. The whole reason he was the richest family in Westeros' preferred champion was that he's a giant battle hardened sociopath. There's a scene in clash of kings where the mountain's horse gets shot out from under him and he falls into a group of stark soldiers and proceeds to butcher his way through all of them despite their best efforts to kill him, all of this seen through Tyrion's POV and he isn't concerned the mountain is in any danger.
i dont think its a maybe, it would be probably a clear cut win for arthur, the thing is you cant compare the khal to a regular dothraki, drogo is more calculated and more skilled than them, i do think drogo can defeat the mountain, there are other weak spots than the visor, oberyn exploited a few of these, the back of the knee etc.
He's the only one I can think of that can beat the Mountain, and that's "can" not "would"
@@nolaanderson8770 I agree that's why I picked him, he's described as the greatest swordsman who ever lived in Westeros so in a 1v1 he would have my bet and I'm a huge nerd for the books description of characters fighting styles.
@@sanjaysanj5603 I agree Arthur would likely beat the mountain in a straight forward 1v1 since he's said to be the greatest swordsman Westeros ever saw that's why I picked him but nothings written in stone and despite what the show portrays the mountain is a competent fighter not just a brute frothing at the mouth. I just can't get behind Drogo clapping the mountain, he's never fought anybody like the mountain whereas the mountain killed a fighter who was probably faster than Drogo and more used to fighting armored opponents. I know Oberyn got wrapped up in emotion and got taken by surprise but the fact the mountain still killed him is proof enough he has some speed. Like the video said all of Drogo's weapons would force him to be right next to the mountain and Drogo is described as a very large man so unless he can teleport the mountain is probably gonna grab him, overpower him and despite whatever wounds he's suffered and give him some medieval eye surgery too.
Arthur would kill him in seconds, it wouldn't even be close.
Arya is TERRIBLY written, how anyone can have her as their favourite is insane to me
Story has it that back when Robert Baratheon was young and known as the demon Ned stark mentioned him being 6foot 5 and wielding his hammer... THAT Robert Baratheon could kill the mountain... Or perhaps gendry?
I actually think Drogo would be the perfect candidate to beat the Mountain. He’s ridiculously fast and strong, capable of getting under or out of Clegane’s reach with relative ease and energy. The greatsword is a clumsy enough weapon that even Gregor’s surprising speed cannot overcome the fact that he has to laboriously signal where he’s headed.
It really comes down to whether you think Drogo would slip up first/the Mountain would get lucky with a swing before the Khal’s own agility makes itself felt against a recoiling Mountain.
I think Drogos biggest issue is that armour, his weapons and fighting style (well what we see in the show) are not optimised to deal with an opponent in plate armour, let alone armour as thick as the Mountains.
Make them both fight unarmoured and the Khal (assuming he doesn't arrogantly charge at the mountain) would likely have Gregors guts in his hands after about 5 seconds 😂 thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts warlord! -Liam
@@TheFandomeClips
Ah, the armor issue; I forgot how the Mountain’s plate is basically plate armor on steroids 😂 Yeah, even the finest arakah isn’t getting through the “thickest steel” in Westeros, let alone the chain and boiled leather beneath it lmao
The opposite actually, Drogo is the worst suited to dealing with The Mountain lol his weapon is shit against plate armour and he wears no armour himself.
A Greatsword is Not really a clumsy weapon in hands of Gregor Clegane, sure he is not as skilled as his younger Brother Sandor but he surely is a lot stronger and tougher
Also if you read the First Book A Game of Thrones the Battle of Green Fork Tyrion Chapter you will come by a line" The Left was made up of freeriders and mercenaries mixed with hedge knights and led by Ser Gregor Clegane The Mountain who was waving his great sword to put men into position like a man would wave a dagger"
He lacks armour....and a big f#$king sword didn't you learn from the Hounds words😂
Eyeslit, eyeslit, eyeslit... I seem to recall The Viper finding a ton of weak spots in Gregor's armor that weren't his eyeslit...
How about book (not the watered-down show version) Areo Hotah? Dude is also a big man, wicked quick for his size, very skilled, and uses a ranged bladed weapon? Not sure he could win, but it would be a great fight to see.
What about Robert Baratheon in his prime? Everyone acknowledges him as a great warrior, and he has strength on his side. A war hammer also has good range and could do some serious damage to the Mountain’s armour. But I guess we’d never know
Assuming we are talking about the living mountain not the undead one....I think Drogo could beat him. He seemed very adept at dodging a smaller faster weapon so I believe he could effectively dodge that great sword...especially if mountain is in full plate. I think Drogo fight IQ is high enough that he wouldn't get his weapon caught in his armor and if for some reason he did he definitely wouldn't hold onto it instead of dodging. Then he would have to knock his helmet off and/or go for joints/weak points in the armor.
Its a fight that could go either way but I still think Drogo is capable of pulling it off.
We think Drogo can, but we think Gregor would take it more often than not. Drogos biggest issue is reach, he'll have to work a hell of a lot harder to threaten the mountain whereas the mountain is presenting threat within a 6ft radius around him, not to mention his shield needs to be bypassed if drogo gets past the sword!
Bronn is the one with the best chances against Gregor Clegane.
Show Bronn absolutely! Book Bronn not so much. They gave him quite the boost in the show because of how likable he was. In the books he's very very good but not up there with the best. Thanks for watching! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips Nah, Bronn is more skilled in the books, Tyrion even compares him to his brother Jaime.
is this list based on them vs normal mountain? or them vs zombie mountain? also is there any confirmation that zombie mountain is different from normal mountain except that he can't talk anymore?
Interesting list. Can't argue with any of the five presented in the list for all the logical reasons presented, including that Jaqen H'ghar could kill him, but only in assassination. However without any truly notable fighters.
Prime Robert Baratheon, Arthur Dayne, Barristan Selmy, Jaime Lannister, Grey Worm, Daario Naharis and Rhaegar Targaryen could all have a fair chance against him, while Oberyn Martell toyed with him and died due to rage and stupidity. Brienne and The Hound are close, but as stated they have similar fighting styles and in order to win plot armor usually gets employed as he is far stronger, wearing unreal armor due to inhuman strength even before the monstrosity the show made him into and absurd range.
Loved the video. Very realistic. Hope to see more of it in comparison to fighters that could actually challenge him and lived in his age like formerly listed.
Wun Wun would crash him! 😛 Close distance would be a disaster for the Mountain and even at far distance Wun Wun could take a one-hit kill with his oversized bow.
💯 agree. But we all KNOW he can, the debate is who we think can kill him but couldn’t
And Drogon could burn him in a second
Hodor, with Bran at the controls. That beats the Mountain every time.
Nah. That means raw strength of hodor vs raw strength plus actual fighting experience by the mountain.
@@dustingrimmmagic1067also Gregor is 1 feet taller and stronger than Hodor
@@amardeep_singh_chauhan fair! Didnt have their heights in mind!
Mountain is said to tower above Hodor, I think it was mentioned in first book by Ned Stark, that someone even bigger than Hodor is insane.
If Hodor had training experience and strength training he would probably match Gregor
The eye slit is not the only weakness in that armor, armpits are also a viable and realistic target option.
Areo Hotah? Would be interesting to see or hear how he would do against The Mountain
Here's another guy people don't name..probably because we haven't seen him fight yet...but what about areo hotah from dorne
Good pick. He is definitely bad ass.
We were robbed of that one by Ellaria's assassination plot.
Do you agree with our list? 😬
At this point in the books, Sandor is the most dangerous man in Westeros 1v1. He's in his twenties, bigger than Brienne and almost as skilled as prime Jaime. He's so far above everyone else at this point it's not even fair. The only real challange to him now would probably be Hotah. Sir Robert Strong doesn't count.
Jaqen is a wildcard. As a faceless man it's hard to call him a simple assassin instead of a killer/murderer.
With this in mind its hard to say what he does against the mountain.
Maybe he poisons him somehow before the fight. Maybe he uses some old magic we dont know of yet to kill him instantly.
Ngl I felt Jaqen was underestimated because of the usual feat comparison if jaqen's an assassin he would probably prep accordingly especially for someone like the mountain.
Considering how well Martel did against the Mountain I'd say Greyworm would have a similar chance he's fast & has long reach & he's actually more cold & calculated than Martel, so I think Greyworm could take him or at least had a very good one on one chance
I think that one would be interesting.
I'm not so sure. The unsullied weren't really trained in individual combat the way Oberyn was. They're trained to fight as a unit, so his spear training would be a lot different than Oberyn. They're trained to hold the line, so their formation doesn't collapse, as opposed to do the sort of hit-and-run tactics that Oberyn used to gain the upper hand. It's sound training for war, but not so much in a 1v1 engagement.
I still think my personal fave, Grey Worm, has a chance. He's the best of the Unsullied, who are already regarded as among the best soldiers in the world. He's disciplined, has been trained since childhood and primarily wields a long-reach weapon with his spear. Honestly the only thing holding him back from being a sure thing is the fact that his armour is lighter than Gregor's and he doesn't match him in terms of raw, physical strength 🤔
It seems to me that the Unsullied are highly overrated.
ALL noble combatants were trained since childhood. Kids who would become knights started learning about fighting at around 8. They’d serve as a page, then a squire, and finally be knighted once they have proven themselves worthy.
Knights are, first and foremost, a warrior caste. They’d also have professional instructors and be given extensive individual attention. Would the Unsullied, a disposable army of slaves, be given such high-quality training? At the very least, knights would be at least as skilled as the Unsullied.
If I’m not mistaken, the Unsullied are castrated before undergoing puberty. If that’s the case, they are deprived of the increased muscle mass typical of adult men and will by physically comparable to women. An average woman has only 55% of the upper body strength and 75% of the lower body strength of an average man. In other words, the Unsullied are physically extraordinarily weak. That affects how strong their strikes are and it affects how fast they are (the stronger you are, the quicker you can accelerate or redirect your weapon).
That doesn’t sound to me like the Unsullied are especially potent combatants. Physically weak, not as skilled as knights, and armed with low-quality equipment.
I wanna be in favor of Drogo, your explanation makes it clean that the mountain wins
If you were Oberyn right after you struck the mountain, would you pull it out and put it right into his neck or take a close quarters blade and put it through his neck?