4:05 that is correct, the rumor was originally started by NewAgeServerAlarm, going off of the “See? Wood. Watch!” meme in the communit from like 11 or 12 years ago.
I know I'm 3 years late to the video (I'm currently binge-ing lots of your content!) but it's important to note that the BG-10s were never officially recalled, the company issued a "strong recommendation" to replace them. In the life safety industry, liability is everything and words matter. But for a young enthusiast like yourself, I know what you meant. I have been an inspector of all types of fire protection for over 10 years now and I'm still learning new things thanks to your videos. Keep up the good work - you'd make an excellent inspector as well!
Thank you for watching and your comment! Honeywell put out a service bulletin that identified a safety concern with their pull stations and strongly recommended replacement. They also offered free replacement button seals for pull stations that were not replaced. A product recall is an action taken by a manufacturer to return or correct a defective or unsafe product. I think what Honeywell did fits the definition of a recall, although I guess you could make a case that it wasn’t a recall
Those BG-10s are not only bad, but have an old age. The fire pull was introduced in 1983, and ended production in 1999 for the BG-12 series which is still produced today. It may sound like a modern alarm, but it’s vintage. I remember seeing them in a mental health clinic and an apartment complex in the past-now replaced with BG-12s. Then with the EST 270-SPOs: I grew up with them at my former YMCA, along with EST Integritys. The building underwent expansions in 2014, and ironically the 270-SPOs and Integritys got installed in the new expanded wing. The YMCA does have Fire-Lite BG-12s in some areas that replaced defective 270-SPOs. The Silent Knight SD-500s are in my current school, and no problematic history with them as of November 2021.
When you got to the 270spo it reminded me of a fire drill I helped out with and recorded. 270spos and stopper IIIs do not mix well. The stupid cover kept blocking my flathead screwdriver while I tried to reset the station as I recorded it. I have the video if you wanna see it. (Just a warning the angle isn’t very good because i was fighting the pull station so i could get the screwdriver to fit.)
The bg 10 was shown in Astoria area elementary school in kindergarten cop with bells that mr. kimble hit with a wooden mallet to simulate a fire drill. It was so funny. Best thing about fire bells.
4:45, kind of reminds me of the pull station featured on The Big Bang Theory, but the devices were a Bell and a horn/strobe used as the building's Fire Alarm system, but it was a setup on one of many stages used in an actual studio
my elementary school actually had nothing but the BG8's for the pull stations hahaha. I prefer if a pull is made of all metal. They're just higher in quality. I was also a bit surprised to see the BG10 in this video but I completely get it once you explained. It is crispy when you pull though.. maybe a lil more so than a BG12? I'm new to this stuff so forgive me lol
5:32 I have this fire alarm and I agree it is so trash because you seriously need a screwdriver to reset Also someone can bring a screwdriver and open it and do something idk
Silent Knight had the BG-12Ls (as the PS-DAs and PS-SAs) since 2000. The addressable version didn’t come out until 2009 for regular SK and 2005 for Fahrenhyt. The SD-500PS are still being manufactured but I heard SK is phasing out SD.
In my opinion the worst fire alarm ever made is the Edwards 274-111 pull station. It is a tab style pull station made out of an extremely brittle and glossy plastic, with a very stiff hinge that caused mine to break within the first few minutes of owning it. It requires a tool to reset, but I don't think the switch in mine latches properly, and it can be forced shut without much effort.
The least favorite pull station in my collection would be the FCI MS-2 - the key reset switch gets jammed too much and I already bent the Gamewell/FCI keys twice from doing that…
Personally, I don’t like the MS-51 that much because the hinges have a poor build quality. Believe Me, it sucks when the Hinge Breaks apart and you have to mold the Plastic back together.
I like these pull stations with the exception of the Silent Knight SD-500PS and the Ademco 529. The SD-500-PSs look like a Walmart version of the BG8 or a BNG1R (both newer and older). If my dad’s school used SD devices instead of the SK devices they used I would hate the system even more (I don’t like the combination of Advances and these pull stations, I say it looks better with the 7002T,the Spectralert classic, or etc) Honestly the SD-500-PS should get discontinued and get replaced with a Silent Knight SK-PULL-DA with a Silent Knight SD module stuck inside the pull station. That has been done before with the Gamewell FCI MS95L (Apollo module inside a BG12). I will take all Ademco 529s and throw them into a volcano. The 270 SPOs can just get a better screw and it will be alright. The MS6 would be better if it was a FCI MS2 with out the flap. The Canadian life safety pull stations I don’t like that much or care. I respect your opinion on these pull stations.
4:05 that is correct, the rumor was originally started by NewAgeServerAlarm, going off of the “See? Wood. Watch!” meme in the communit from like 11 or 12 years ago.
I’ve seen that joke 😂
I think if 270 SPO‘s used a lock with a key they would be pretty good
Oh yeah, everything about them is great except for the screw
i think there is a 270p spo which has a key
@@pentiumman3338 Someday Edwards might make a 270-SPO to have a key lock
I took a screwdriver and broke the tamper resistant screw and hold the pull station shut with a piece of electrical tape on the 270-SPO.
@@pentiumman3338 that’s a dual stage pull station
I know I'm 3 years late to the video (I'm currently binge-ing lots of your content!) but it's important to note that the BG-10s were never officially recalled, the company issued a "strong recommendation" to replace them. In the life safety industry, liability is everything and words matter. But for a young enthusiast like yourself, I know what you meant. I have been an inspector of all types of fire protection for over 10 years now and I'm still learning new things thanks to your videos. Keep up the good work - you'd make an excellent inspector as well!
Thank you for watching and your comment!
Honeywell put out a service bulletin that identified a safety concern with their pull stations and strongly recommended replacement. They also offered free replacement button seals for pull stations that were not replaced. A product recall is an action taken by a manufacturer to return or correct a defective or unsafe product. I think what Honeywell did fits the definition of a recall, although I guess you could make a case that it wasn’t a recall
The firsts were some of my favorite pull stations
Well pull stations are supposed to sit on a wall for 6 months until pulled for a fire drill so if they work it doesn't matter.
no hate
It does…what if someone needs to use the station for an emergency but the unit is jammed or too hard to pull?
i am talking about the 270spo.
Those BG-10s are not only bad, but have an old age. The fire pull was introduced in 1983, and ended production in 1999 for the BG-12 series which is still produced today. It may sound like a modern alarm, but it’s vintage. I remember seeing them in a mental health clinic and an apartment complex in the past-now replaced with BG-12s.
Then with the EST 270-SPOs: I grew up with them at my former YMCA, along with EST Integritys. The building underwent expansions in 2014, and ironically the 270-SPOs and Integritys got installed in the new expanded wing. The YMCA does have Fire-Lite BG-12s in some areas that replaced defective 270-SPOs.
The Silent Knight SD-500s are in my current school, and no problematic history with them as of November 2021.
My high school also has 270-SPOs.
6:37 Those ones on the fire alarm reminds me of the Three Headed Sea Monster from Playmobil Ghost Pirates!
When you got to the 270spo it reminded me of a fire drill I helped out with and recorded. 270spos and stopper IIIs do not mix well. The stupid cover kept blocking my flathead screwdriver while I tried to reset the station as I recorded it. I have the video if you wanna see it. (Just a warning the angle isn’t very good because i was fighting the pull station so i could get the screwdriver to fit.)
While only my middle school had 278B-1120 pull stations, every other school I attended had 270-SPO’s, and their age said it all.
1:52 I have those in my school and they suck. I wonder how many false alarms they have caused.
The bg 10 was shown in Astoria area elementary school in kindergarten cop with bells that mr. kimble hit with a wooden mallet to simulate a fire drill. It was so funny. Best thing about fire bells.
4:45, kind of reminds me of the pull station featured on The Big Bang Theory, but the devices were a Bell and a horn/strobe used as the building's Fire Alarm system, but it was a setup on one of many stages used in an actual studio
my elementary school actually had nothing but the BG8's for the pull stations hahaha. I prefer if a pull is made of all metal. They're just higher in quality. I was also a bit surprised to see the BG10 in this video but I completely get it once you explained. It is crispy when you pull though.. maybe a lil more so than a BG12? I'm new to this stuff so forgive me lol
What is a good starter fire alarm
Body builders: I’m not scared of anything
Except that: *bng1*
It scares me
Hahaha!
The Ademco pull that fiber glass breaks kinda like a tamper thing
You gotta try a Honeywell S464D1000, it makes every single one of these look premium
Was actually planning a video on one of those. Pure and utter garbage! Cool collector piece but full of issues
5:32 I have this fire alarm and I agree it is so trash because you seriously need a screwdriver to reset
Also someone can bring a screwdriver and open it and do something idk
Silent Knight has been doing really well since they switched to the BG-12.
Silent Knight had the BG-12Ls (as the PS-DAs and PS-SAs) since 2000. The addressable version didn’t come out until 2009 for regular SK and 2005 for Fahrenhyt. The SD-500PS are still being manufactured but I heard SK is phasing out SD.
In my opinion the worst fire alarm ever made is the Edwards 274-111 pull station. It is a tab style pull station made out of an extremely brittle and glossy plastic, with a very stiff hinge that caused mine to break within the first few minutes of owning it. It requires a tool to reset, but I don't think the switch in mine latches properly, and it can be forced shut without much effort.
Yeah those are bad. Plastic tab pulls are really cheaply made
My middle school high school and my mall has the pull at 6:46 that u holding and it runs like a bg 10
Lol for the bg 8 I used think uneeded a key. Def agree on first one
The least favorite pull station in my collection would be the FCI MS-2 - the key reset switch gets jammed too much and I already bent the Gamewell/FCI keys twice from doing that…
I really like the bg-10 (i have one myself) but the siemens version like the MSI-10B (i have one of those) or the MSI-20B are better built
The tabs could break over time too
I like the 270SPO, the Slinet Knight , the BG-8 and The BG-10, i respect your opinion
I like them too but I don’t like the way they’re designed
@@FireAlarmDude5967 oh ok
Personally, I don’t like the MS-51 that much because the hinges have a poor build quality. Believe Me, it sucks when the Hinge Breaks apart and you have to mold the Plastic back together.
Right
Why, no ms 151 very easy to pull
These awful designs can kill!
THEY ARE ALL GOOD
Those dang tabs lol 😆
Nice, but the top 3 worst pull stations in my opinion are
3. Apollo Call Point
2. Cebrus pulsation
1. Fire lite pulstation
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mY sChOoL hAs 270 SpOs ThEy ArE mY fAvOrItE pUlL sTaTiOn
I like these pull stations with the exception of the Silent Knight SD-500PS and the Ademco 529. The SD-500-PSs look like a Walmart version of the BG8 or a BNG1R (both newer and older). If my dad’s school used SD devices instead of the SK devices they used I would hate the system even more (I don’t like the combination of Advances and these pull stations, I say it looks better with the 7002T,the Spectralert classic, or etc) Honestly the SD-500-PS should get discontinued and get replaced with a Silent Knight SK-PULL-DA with a Silent Knight SD module stuck inside the pull station. That has been done before with the Gamewell FCI MS95L (Apollo module inside a BG12). I will take all Ademco 529s and throw them into a volcano. The 270 SPOs can just get a better screw and it will be alright. The MS6 would be better if it was a FCI MS2 with out the flap. The Canadian life safety pull stations I don’t like that much or care. I respect your opinion on these pull stations.
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