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- A Land Rover Discovery 1 and Discovery 2A battle it out in Appin.
The Disco 1 is a 200 series V8 2 door Rossignol edition, and the Disco 2 is a facelift update 2a TD5.
The two Land Rover Discoverys tackle some large steps at Sawpit Gully. A few river crossings on the Georges River. Some off camber situations and large ruts on a still wet day out at Appin.
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A Land Rover Discovery 1 and Discovery 2A battle it out in Appin.
Enjoy and feel free to comment, share and be sure to subscribe for more off road videos.
Are you able to tell me what size exhaust is on the v8 one & is it the standed 3.9
Thanks
Sawpit gully Australia near rockmount?
@@izaacbanks3337 Appin
can u send disco 1's mods ????
Stephen Mewett it’s 2.5inches I believe
The discovery driver 1 driving in a professional manner, and the other with a lot of aggressive voila the problem
Taha Zeus Driver experience and skill has a lot to do with it.
I think that, even if the Disco 2 driver has less experience than the other one, the way he drives that car is not only a question of experience.
It seems a question of 'experience with a disco 2 and tbe way to use its traction control when not having central diff lock and no lockers in the axles'. The disco one with the lockers is a lot smoother. With the disco 2 you have to wait until the ecu manages the hdc/abs/tc system to help you to go forward. And that is agressive 'per se'.
Maybe the deiver could be smoother in this sense waiting for the machine to work. And maybe he could choose some different lines.
But in my opinion he's doing ok and he will improve with lockers.
Cheers
Taha Zeus Taha Zeus the traction control system requires more revs and wheel spin for the abs sensors to pick up a difference in wheel speed. So it’s a lot easier to take it more gentle with the discovery 1. You can see at about 5.55 where the disco 2 is just spinning it’s wheels then suddenly it moves.
Taha Zeus what the exhaust size on the 3.9 size
Very true
Once again great video that v8 is a monster I'll be trading my 300tdi for a v8 when I dies
+Jake Ingleby Thanks mate 👍 long live your 300 😂
Bro no way drop the transfer case low low ratios and youll have same or more power
Great video showing these 2 different technologies. Do you know where the owner of the D1 got those headlight covers that make it look like it’s frowning? They look great!
They are standard pre update D1 headlights with some black tape for the frown 😉😁
@@lror haha it’s so sick, I wanna do it now lol
Thats it, simple and easily reversible
So a 2003 discovery II doesnt have the center locker? Why would they get rid of that?
Swedish Holmberg yes they have centre diff lock.
Compared to the tractor td5 the V8 is incredible
Thanks Phil 🍻
Nothing to say about the disco 1 and it's driver. It's well modded and there's a lot of experience in the driving.
The Td5 showed how good as a car it is.
With a less experienced driver amd less mods it performs really good.
Cheers. Good video.
D Lopez You have summed it up perfectly 👌 Thanks for taking the time to drop us a comment 👍
LROR Land Rovers Off Road. My pleasure. Thank you for the time it takes to edit all the video takes. Great videos
D Lopez agreed.
V8 what a sound... crazy power 💪🏻
v8 sounds like a little dragon but the td5 voice is like the god of all diesels
Both lovely in their own way 👍
@@lror I'm not feeling the love for my TD5 at the moment...
Sounds like a Humvee
TD5’s not as good off-road, D2 V8 is way better.
v8 driver does it perfectly but the td5 driver is gonna break cvs and uni joints
such enjoyable videos like always, The camera man holds that thing nice and steady.. and no crappy music, just engine note.. lovely. Tell me though, and i dont mean to critique driving styles, but how long does that clutch last? the bloke driving the v8i has awesome control on that car.
Glad your enjoying the videos, thank you for following us and taking the time to comment. The clutch has not been changed in over 4 years of ownership if your referring to the D1.
The D2 has traction control (assuming it’s working) so it requires a different driving technique which requires more throttle...
Disco 1 with v8 is the daddy. I had two tdi's they were great.
Sounded nasty keep going 😂😂 @10:04
bahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Glen Davis 😂😂😂
Amzing both cars 💪🏼😤 but the td5 driver is a bastard I have a td5 and I'd could not drive mine like that 😵🤨 V8 driver good job
Bloody awesome video, both cars look like they did well. Got to love the felx and the sound on that V8. It looks like a beast! 💪
What were the conditions like when you were out there?
Rover Lord Cheers mate, glad you liked it. The D1 is doing well but maybe new shocks soonish for a little bit more stretchy stretchy. It was wet and slippery after the couple of weeks of rain we've had and gave us a sprinkle or 2 on the day.
What I love about this is there's no boring intro, no pointless talking, no shameless product placement. It's just pure action start to finish, great drives, both vehicles doing a short video one straight after the other so you can see the comparison, and you really put them through some hellish lines! Great video, thank you.
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The V8 certainly looks to have a lot more flex so suspension setup is probably a bigpart as well
Yes you are correct. Thank you for dropping us a comment.
V8 in my experience was trash. It has the aluminum block that's bad for tearing up head gaskets
@@chrisstroud60 Land Rover. Turning owners into mechanics for 75 years.
D2 a tad heavy on the throttle, love that V8 grumble though :)
+TriXDah Driving with traction control sometimes means a little more throttle to get it to work.
Fair enough :)
Please list the Mods on each vehicle? Well done!
nice vid. Disco 2 much stres on the drive train. Tracion control is not ideal. i have front and rear ascroft locker one my disco 2, less stres on the drive train. and much easier to drive. Disco's Are the Best.
+Raymond Logister Thanks 👍 Yep agreed lockers offer way more control than waiting on traction control to do its thing.
Typically how much would it cost to fit lockers front and rear?? Im currently building a D1 3 door V8 and hadnt really considered lockers until late.
Ashcroft lockers front and rear with the heavy duty axels front and rear and compressor and instal, everything complete. Cost in the netherlands €4000,-- Maybe in Australie cheaper?
Lockers are about $1200 each give or take a couple of hundred depending which one you went for. Then there's setup cost if your not doing it yourself and that's about $400-$500 each. You definitely want hd axles if your upsizing tyres and they are about $1400 front and rear. Again add fitment cost if your not doing it yourself. Then if your planning on doing the harder trails constantly Ashcroft cv's are a good idea. They'll set you back about $1400 local but a lot cheaper if you get them direct from the UK.
Wow didnt realize how pricey they get. Might be something much later on down the track then, thanks for the info though fellas!
Faa, love the flex at 5:30 onwards
+Aussie Four Wheelers (Hemi4WD) 👍
WHAT A GREAT OFF ROOAD CAR::::::i Think the Best of the Best !!!!!
I love my D2. Its achilles heel is the long rear overhang. Still, it kicks off road @ss.
100% front and rear diff lockers on the D1, though is it running on Nissan Patrol axles???
My 2001 Disco 2 V8 all day every day. 🤘🏼😎
the sound of the V8 is magic!
FoxLR 1602 music to the ears 👌
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what did you do to get this epic sound ? 😉
Yes, but the sound of a diesel SIPPING it's fuel is even better :)
I feel you should try the Disco 1 driver in the Disco 2 for us to see. Throughout the trip, the Disco 2 driver was struggling. I choose the Disco 1 over the Disco 2.
That may be an idea to try next time. Keep in mind the D1 has a lot more mods than the D2.
Land rovers are amazing. I’d take one over a Jeep. Jeep rubicon if it had two lockers I might go with but it’s a close call.
Nice Video, but it's comparing apples with oranges. The disco 1 3.9 V8 is a beast. The disco 2 4.0 V8 is a beast. The TD5 motor over all is great! but you cannot compare a disco 1 to a disco 2. Disco 1 has diff lock, Disco 2 has the shitiest traction control system ever. I owned a disco 1 3.9 V8 Manual, Disco 1 3.9 V8 Auto, Disco 2 4.0 V8 Auto (lovely motor, shit traction control system), defender 110 csw 300tdi and defender 130 td5. I love them all, except the traction control on disco 2!
Love the sound of a Discovery V8.That's the only reason i still have a 3.9.At 14 to the gallon,logic would tell you to get rid of it.But not until it blows-up or it turns to a huge pile of rust!They get in your blood
andy d Haha yeah, i feel the same.
D2 beats D1 due traction control. Shame the D2 wasn’t the V8 version.
V8 any day , it’s not about economy it’s about music to the ears
Phil D Cooke tell that to a big long isolated trip
Has that 2 door disco got Land Cruiser diffs or something why’s it 6 stud
Any possibility u can list specs, accessories or features on both vehicles? AWESOME VIDEO BY YHE WAY THANKS!!!!!
Thank you, if you are on facebook you can look up the lror page for a lot of info, link in the channel bio above. Otherwise just private message me through youtube and im happy to help.
The d1 is it carb or injected. Id like to decomputerize my d1 and put carb on it. Any info
It is injected. I dont think it would be difficult to do but is there a real improvement/benefit as the 14cux has its limitations.
That d1 can flex
axe well 👍
I see 6 wheel studs on the disco1???
1968lr Well spotted man 👍
and the d 1 looks like its got bigger grip on its boots , a same tyre and same tyre pressure rule would have been a teller !
Awesome vid thanks for sharing the experience. Love the v8 hahhaha
Yep the v8 is just so much fun.
Brilliant video! I have a TD5 and have always admired the D1s ability to make things look easy😂😂
first 1 comes and buys it
different tyres
Yes different make and size.
Just wondering, every time I hear a landrover that is being taken on this type of terrain, it always sounds like a diesel engine. Why is that?
Ethan Crisp Maybe you need to get your hearing checked. The 2door definitely doesn't sound like a diesel.
I'm saying both of them have that low rumble that sounds like a diesel truck and the rev is really low and powerful. More so than a stock Landover that barely sounds like anything
Hi is this sawpit gully near rockmount in qld australia
Izaac Banks no its actually Sawpit Gully in Appin NSW, thanks for watching 👍
I've just gone from a '96 300TDi Disco 1 to an '02 TD5 Disco 2 and although it drives more like a car than the 300, in it's current state without the centre locking diff, off road IT'S SHIT!!!
Whatever Land Rover thought they were doing with traction control i don't know, but it ISN'T an improvement!!!!!!!
I know this video is pretty old, but that V8 is it a 3.9 or 3.5 carb or single point injection? and what exhaust is under it?.. i want my Disco 2 4L V8 sound like that... mine is too quiet LOL.. mine is year 2000 multipoint injection though.
Guy in the D1 has no understanding of the word MOMENTUM... watched a few of these videos...
Old Land Rover discoverys are just Legends,they perform more quicker than the modern discoverys with annoying electronics,they should have only improved the traction controls like Toyota,not include new annoying technology such as the terrain management system and shouldn't have increased the wheelbase
should I buy a 1999 discovery? or should I look for something else? 70k miles only
Looks like my boy has been sending messages haha. I can spell better than that. I have a disco 1. Just back on the road after 18mths. Transfer case out then didnt have time to put it back in!
The Cars are both very good cars. But i could ser ONLY One good drivers the man of the V8 knows what he is doing . 💪
I had a TD5....never again.
D2 have difflok or just traction control? and does the D1 have traction control with limited slip diffs?
nice video bra.. i was surprised by the td5
+Nick Jovanovic Thanks brother, the td5 did great.
Great video, and the V8 growl is like a narky bear but i'm sticking to my 2 TD5
That economy compared is hard to go past 👍
@@lror Yep, almost double but I just get goosebumps when a V8 in low gear growls through my village .
@@Silentaudits7 haha that was the only thing that made filling up at the servo kind of okay 😂
Were the wind deflections from for td5 ?
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so you reduce tyre pressures for off roading?
Most definitely, down to about 18 psi but depends on the tyre too , Grabbers could go as low as 15 , they would suck their way up a rock face !!
the td5 driver should shut the engine and stop driving offroad, immediately
ID on side step and front bumper cage for the 1st land rover (green)
Dont know which is the better engine but oh boy that V8 sounds awesome.
TD5 had reductor ?
cause it certainly behaved like it didnt
could you do the winner vs Discovery 3 :-)
Karim Alameddine Thats a great idea, maybe one day we could do that.
LROR Land Rovers Off Road also would be nice to have your opinion on the discovery 5 and what you expect from it if you haven't driven it :-)
75% of the video : The V8 Disco moving over obstacles
25% of the video : The TD5 Disco moving over the same obstacles
Ya ya td5 is a lot faster 😎
Well to me the D2 skills are still young. But I also felt like the tires on the D1 made quite a difference with a skillful driver. Although I might be a little byes , being that I'm a D2 owner lol great video
Definitely the D2 driver was in his early days offroading and will get better over time. The tyres although more aggressive on the d1 are worn compared to the fresh set of grapplers on the d2. Thanks for watching 👍
@LROR what tyre size is the D1 running? And with what gear ratios is it equipped for the main gearbox, transfer case and differentials?
D1 is running 35x12.5 tyres on beadlocks. Diffs were 4.43 and tbh i cant remember if the 49% tc reduction gears were in at that time or not. If i had to guess i think they weren't in at that time.
For me the V8 any day
Phil Cooke v8 💪
Top battle! The D1 killed the D2, hands down, but it was better modded also.
+Andy McLellen The D2 did great too considering.
I'd love to see how a same era Jeep Grand Cherokee does against these two!
I've never been a LR fan but liked this video quite a lot.
Mutual subs?
iVlog That would be a cool video. Maybe one day we could make that happen. Glad we were able to get you to like at least one aspect of Land Rover.
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If I'm honest I've always liked the design of land rovers (exception of the RR).
But what's always put me off is reliability.
All great stuff and it's awesome to see them being used and cared for!
What the brand of the lift kit on the discovery 1
Good video. Are these both Auto's? Also the traction control doesn't appear to be working in the disco 2... has this been disabled?
Both are manual and TC on the D2 is working. Its just that TC is reactive and needs some amount of wheel spin before it does its thing.
I have a 99 v8 disco and i love it...the electrics...well thats another story but the engine is immense.
*Electrics sorted now.
One question mate .....where did you relocate the Disco 2's washer bottle to ??????
I believe he has now located it on the fire wall in the engine bay behind the abs module. I think he has used a different size bottle.
That V8 sounds amazing, how is it on fuel crawling around like that? You need to carry a lot of extra fuel?
Real killer on fuel 30lt/100km
the v8,has a stall converter,??.should idle up all that,no on off revving..
Nah both rigs are manual.
what tires on v8 disco?
+Jason Dalton Maxxis Creepy Crawlers.
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What size?
Teddy Sapp 35x12.5
Hello
Both stock transmission?
Or any lockers?
Thanks
WANAGON T4 for liFE Yes both are stock manual transmission. The D1 is twin locked while the D2 has centre diff lock and traction control.
disco 1 is 200 series , err no its not, if you knew anything at all about them you would know that the 200 series is the engine. a 200 series is the early 2 cylinder 2.4litre diesel, ..the series 1 disco is just a 3.5v8, might even have been upgraded to the 3.9 or 4.2. infact could be the 5 litre ? who knows.. it dont sound like the original rover engine so definite exhaust difference.
phill downes i never knew a 200 series is an engine. I do know of a 200tdi engine though.
Its also common to refer to a series 1 disco pre update (pre 94) as a 200 series while a post update D1 as a 300 series. Thank you for commenting and watching our video 👍
Going off the headlamps, wings, radiator grille, headlamp surrounds and front indicators it's a 200 series...
Is the td5 lifted 2inch? Also what size are the tyres
Cheers
+connor hesketh Yes it has a 2" lift and running 33" tyres.
The bullbar on the TD5 is it custom made or off the shelf ?
Graham Smith I believe its a terrafirma unit
Un bon 4x4 et de bon conducteurs prudents
What suspension is it?
ware is this if it is mant warker we wood like to meat up
It's actually Appin but we go to Mt Walker often and always keen to meet and wheel with good people.
Engage the diff lock on the D2 and it be just as good if not better than the D1. Clip the diff lock sensor to the ABS module so it doesn't disable the traction control when in diff lock and it'll be even better. ;)
Simon Its a d2a so it has cdl and doesnt disengage traction control when locked.
LROR Land Rovers Off Road depends on the year and model. Some of these didn't have cdl fitted and some just didn't have the linkage so relied purely on the traction control
As for the traction control disabling, yes it does. Again, depending on model year. But you will usually see it when the ignition is switched off and on again when diff lock is engaged.
Also, I'm guessing the D1 has front and rear diff lockers?
That D1 is a rare OZ limited edition called Rossignol,also comes in red colour
Yeah the 2 colours it came in are called zemmat and moritz. Also came with the roof rack and Rossignol edition skis, different front bumper than standard D1's, wheel arches/flares and from memory 2 front spot lamps but i could be mistaken about that.
This one has the jump seats in the back making it a 7 seater although im not sure if all Rossi's were like this.
@@lror yes,brochure states the 7seat,AC & automatic were optional but show std front bumper...i guess they decided to install the bullbar at the last minute.
I like both
Great video 👍🚗
Haha, this "yeah!" guy and patrol GU guy are my favorite dudes
gullf1sk Just love it too much. When success over an obstacle occurs a "yeah" is sure to follow 😂😂
Super impressive crawl at 2:30 from the V8...
Thanks for watching and taking the time to drop us a comment 👍 Yes that was a good drive with a bump at the right moment.
Disco 1 always and for ever
D1 💪👊
Yeaaah
What tire/size is on the v8
Justin Davis 35inch Creepy Crawlers.
Nice!
How do these go on fuel?
Td5 is great on fuel but the d1 v8 was not so good at around 30l per 100km. Did sound great though.
awesome builds guys !!
Thanks buddy 👍
What are the fender flares on the disco 1?
Flat dog flexy flares. Thanks for watching.
What size wheels is the D2 running?
Wheels are 16" and tyres are 33s.
@@lror who owns the setup , I wanna set up my D2 like that
I'd take the D1 with the TD5 engine. As much as i love, LOVE the sound of the V8, i wouldn't want to keep filling the tank every hour. PLUS i like to drive out of water. NOT be recovered :)
Koito rob best of both worlds, very clever 👌
Great video
creepy crawler Thanks mate 👍
That D2 got no CDL ?
Cause the D1 has front rear air lockers
D2 has cdl but no diff lockers so had to wait for traction controll to kick in while the d1 was twin locked so definitely had the advantage.
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