Exactly. Not sure why Jordan said no one else can do that. Insta’s been doing if for years. Also, i’d rather grab their One RS camera which is basically same price as this but with more features and modules available. Does horizon lock too and has one inch sensor
@@johnbunani1341 insta360 doesn't have 10 bit yet, pros will care about that. Both DJI and Gopro have announced it today. And I think insta360 will do it at some point, because they listen to consumers a lot more than DJI and Gopro.
@@xWood4000, Yeah devil is in the details. I have all 3 brands and definitely comparing Go2 is a dis-service and/or means user never used these tools as a user/power user. 10-bit is bit depth so yeah no more banding in skies. But DR (dynamic range) is better on GP11 that A3 is struggling with so hope they can improve that. Now I don’t know who came up with horizon lock first but Go2 released date was Mar’21 and GP9 was in Sept’20 with the Max Mod horizon lock so I don’t know who copied who. Anyhow with GP11 has horizon lock n almost all shooting modes except slomo and only with the Linear digital lens while DJI and Insta is limited to I believe 2.7K or 4K30 for the A2 and One R 4K and 1” mods. What GP did copy is allow you to reframe the digital lenses after filming. The 8:7 framing allows a lot of FOV changes without losing quality. I guess to each of it’s own. I would rank for DR, 10-bit, reusing accessories, higher resolution and more shooting modes a win for GP11. Add their replacement and cloud service as a bonus. Then for magnetic design, UI/UX, colors, and bright, responsive, glitch-free touchscreens to DJI. Add their no hassle free refesh care program for replacements as a bonus as well (at least from mu experience). For software features and editing on mobile app, lots of modular options, small form factor, and 360 hands down to Insta360. The after sale service has been horrific and what turns me off here as when you have a problem, communicating in English is hard, then time to send in, and time to get back, a new product has launched and you buy it and moved on (again, from a user since 2018 with the 1X) until GO2, One R 1”, and RS 360 1”.
@@johnbunani1341 Ya, with terrible color science and resolution spread over the entire 360 sphere- no cropping or the image falls to pieces- I have a rs one 1 inch (with dual sensors), it doesn't even come close to this go pro. Insta360 are really just toy cameras.
Just a note for those wondering about all the features of the HERO11 (and in most cases the 10 & 9), with Labs firmware your camera can do (and you can do to it) much more than it’s advertised on the box and what’s in the user manual. Most importantly, it’s actually very easy to use, especially with the QRControl mobile app (Android & iOS). With Labs firmware installed you not only get all the goodness of the latest general release firmware, you also get: 200 Mbps recording Motion detection recording Speed detection recording Audio decibel (noise) detection recording Global tone mapping On/Off Local tone mapping On/Off Global and Local tone mapping Max shutter angle control Exposure damping control Extra long (days) time lapse on one battery GPS time synchronization USB power trigger Burn in overlays Custom file naming 12GB file length chaptering GPS synced Sunrise/Sunset recording Time code support via LTC Auto generated Adobe style proxy files On screen histogram Burn in lap times Luma sweep Embed personal logo into video Control length of Hindsight timeout (instead of default 15 minutes) Increase digital gain of audio Clean monitoring without overlays Mute one or more channels of audio True 24.0 (Cinema) frame rate (instead of broadcast 23.976) Increased write frequency for higher precion file recoveries Alternative exposure controls ........ and more.
@@rfunk8198 With Hypersmooth stabilization, yes, set the max shutter angle to prevent the shutter from dropping below 1/120 (1/240+ is best, but can be too dark). You can also increase the bitrate to 200 Mbps and turn on/off local and global tone mapping. Higher bitrate will capture more information and with both global and local tone mapoing on, you get more detail in shadow, but can get more noise. In 4K/30fps the camera has 3DR noise reduction (not available in higher resolutions), which also helps.
Thanks for the review! I've been using the previous Hero 9 and 10 to film family holiday videos over the past couple of years. I love the fact you don't need to worry about the weather or stabilisation as both are fine, and in good light the quality looks decent, albeit a bit over-sharpened. Horrible in low light, so just avoid it. It's also great to take it underwater - I was snorkelling with it, and even shallow scuba was ok without a housing. I find them incredibly flexible cameras to take on family trips as you just don't need to worry about them. PS - the old Hero 9 could do the horizon lock trick if you had the Max Lens Mod fitted.
So looks like the 8×7 sensor has little to do with improving low light capability but more to do with bringing horizon lock capability and larger frame size.
The horizon locking feature seems cool and I can think of a few interesting shots you could get with it, but overall doesn't seem like much of an upgrade over my GoPro 9. A comparison with the last couple GoPro editions would be great, especially whether GP has addressed the overheating issue of the GP10.
Wait a min. . .the question is with Gopro 9 we were introduced to horizon lock with the lens mod. . . is Gopro 11 capable of horizon lock WITHOUT the lens mod? That saves us $75 for the accessory. I skipped purchasing gopro 10 for the 11 looking for more features. 10 didn't seem like much of a progress leap from my 9 to make the purchase. And looking at the specs for 11, hopefully Gopro 12 will have 6k @ 120 fps or higher capability. I love seeing my chihuahuas running in slow motion [in higher res. is the goal]. I may get the mini [as well] for a doggy pov running.
@@proProcrastinatooor excellente. ..this means when I go to Portugal for the street bullfights I can get it all captured no matter what angle I end up. . .
they really miss the mark why people buy these. we dont buy them for how good the video is, of course better video quality is a plus but that buttery smooth footage we get as we walk, run, ski, without a gimbal is a huge reason these are so amazing
For photos one point not mentioned is voice command, "GoPro take a photo" or "GoPro start record" for video, and using the GoPro remote is very handy. Toggle between video, photo or hyperlapse modes quickly with the remote. Yea these add ons cost $ but provide huge versatility for Vlogging, mounting on a grip stick or gimbal. As shown in your review GoPro is not really designed to be used as a hand held pocket camera.
I'm still soured on GoPro after my Hero 8 Black kept freezing up randomly regardless of where I formatted the card nor the cards used. Then I bought the Hero 10 in hopes that the GP2 processor would fare a lot better for vehicle footage only to be met with a failed sensor which now spits out purple blotches before corrupting the file and shutting off, again regardless of where the cards were formatted or the cards used. My DJI Osmo Action and DJI Action 2 have proven very reliable and capable in both low light and high summer temps and I look forward to trying out the DJI Osmo Action 3.
I had already ordered an 11, but am enjoying watching footage to pass the time until I get mine. Watched most of the reviews at this point; yours is by far the funniest!
The one thing I've found useful with GoPro's (as it relates to photography) is doing video while I'm shooting, because in some instances, I can mount the Go-Pro into an adapter on the hot-shoe of the camera and almost give a POV video of close to what I'm seeing, and sometimes I like to use it as I do photography hikes. I have my regular camera to get stills, and the GoPro sort of records everything else on the hike. Sometimes I'll take video with both (but the video with the actual regular camera will be more focused on something specific -- whereas the GoPro will be still more for overall footage). So yes I think they can be useful for regular stills photographers, and especially for those shooting video as they have gotten quite good you could use them for BTS shooting, and considering the cost, you can buy a few of these for the price of even a modern APS-C ML camera. That being said, I'm still using my Hero 8 black and have no real intentions of upgrading. The 4k30 from the Hero 8 is plenty for what I do, and while the newer ones may offer better stabilization (the Hero 8 isn't bad by any means) I personally just can't justify the upgrade. IF I was doing vlogging or making money with my videos, then that would be different, but much of my videos and photography is for personal use and not really ever sold. But I do like the idea of being able to record a video of things while I'm shooting, especially if I'm hiking because I can just turn my head and look at things and capture it with the camera (as i use a headmount a lot when doing hiking with the GoPro).
You wanted to show if it was worth using next to pro camera quality and did in the first 10 seconds. Gopro looks like actioncam over sharp, super digital or basically a phone video now. They should just promote it as the tik tok camera but then why would you need 4k at all? What's the dynamic range, 3 stops? Out of the kindness of their hearts they will let you upload to their servers and make a highlight video for you? Then what happens to your footage?
Issues I may have with the 11 Black: * TH-cam seem to have stopped supporting 5k video since early July - surely a big problem (certainly is for me and my Hero 9 Black), upload a 5k video and the highest resolution you get is 4k (I do still have my older 5k videos). * I really like the Linear+Levelling "Lens" mode on my 9, as it has a lot less ultra-wide distortion, is there an equivalent here? (Meaning the linear part, I get the levelling is even better.) * Hypersmooth often falls off a cliff with a 180 degree shutter (see below) - any better? Where I am: I have a Hero 9 Black, it's really good and I do most of my videos with it now (previously a GH5 with a Dual-IS2 lens or a RX100V on a Crane-M gimbal - both before and now with some iPhone stuff too, sometimes with Filmic Pro but more with the built-in app as I'm usually doing it when I need to be videoing immediately). Why I got a 9B as my first GoPro: * Good battery life (the 10 seems a lot less so, didn't upgrade) * Fixed all the really poor things from earlier models * Really good 5k footage * Great stabilisation * Really light to hand-hold for long periods * I felt there was so much high-shutter-speed phone footage out there people would probably be okay with the same from the GoPro (see below re Hypersmooth) But: **** TH-cam have stopped supporting 5k video since early July (-ish) so lose the 5k advantage of 1.78x the pixels vs. 4k * I asked them to add a profile between Flat and Saturated/Contrasty and suggested calling it "Natural". They did this (no idea if it had anything to do with me) but didn't put it in the 9 (VERY annoyingly). * Shooting stills is a very slow business and really not worth it most of the time (do a frame-grab from 5k) - that's just from pressing the shutter button until it's done, not including choosing the settings! * High ISO is really quite noisy * Hypersmooth only works with fast shutter speeds (I assume also on the 10 and 11), so don't want to limit the ISO to lower values to avoid the noise as then the stabilisation will fall off a cliff when it gets dark * Hypersmooth really doesn't like being pointed downwards (e.g. to include a document in the video) Notes * If you use Resolve you'll need the Studio version to edit the content, not the free one (I already had it so not an issue) * It splits videos into just under 4GB segments (maybe to allow for people who aren't using exFAT as their card's file system? Should do in one file for exFAT IMHO). You'll need to join them pre-TH-cam (options - in their App, but needs a lot of phone free space; in an editor on a PC/Mac; or some other way). * As a quick approach you can use the command-line tool FFMPEG to concatenate files, first convert to .mkv format then join, then delete the mkv-s: In the directory they are in make a file called files.txt containing one line per file you want to join, as: file '1.mkv' file '2.mkv' file '3.mkv' file '4.mkv' Then convert the source files (in this example 4, replace GX*.MP4 with your filenames) as follows: ffmpeg -i GX010505.MP4 -c copy 1.mkv ffmpeg -i GX020505.MP4 -c copy 2.mkv ffmpeg -i GX030505.MP4 -c copy 3.mkv ffmpeg -i GX040505.MP4 -c copy 4.mkv Which won't re-encode so will be pretty quick. Then run: ffmpeg -f concat -safe 0 -i files.txt -c copy VideoOut.mkv Then delete the 1-4.mkv etc. files. Change VideoOut.mkv extension if you want another container format, e.g. VideoOut.mp4. It's quicker to do than describe. You just need the FFMPEG executable, links available from ffmpeg.org/download.html#build-windows You can put it in the same directory as the videos, but in Windows may need to write .\ffmpeg to run it, as many Windows setups won't look for programs in the current directory. * My preferred settings: Res/FPS 5k/30, Lens Linear+HL, Hypersmooth On, Scheduled Capture Duration No Limit, HindSight Off, Timer Off, Zoom 1.0x Bit Rate High, Shutter Auto, EV Comp 0, White Balance Auto, ISO Min 100, ISO Max 1600, Sharpness High, Color GoPro, Raw Audio Off, Wind Auto Shortcuts - LL Lens, LR EV Comp, UL White Balance, UP HyperSmooth Orientation locked (to avoid flip to portrait if point down and it gets confused Front screen off (to save power) unless I'm in the shot, then 16:9 Beep Volume Low QuikCapture Off Default Preset - Last used Video Auto Power Off 5 min LEDs Front Off Only Anti-flicker 60Hz (see 30Hz note below) Video Compression HEVC Voice Control Off Display orientation Landscape, Screen saver read 5 min, front same as rear, brightness 80% Wireless connection On, Wireless band 5GHz (adjust to suit, but 5GHz is much faster) * Oh and I shoot 30p despite being in a PAL (25Hz) country as I think it makes for smoother Pans when viewed on screens which usually run at 60Hz, I would change to 25p if there were a lot of flickering lights around. * I don't use the optional (extra cost) ND filters to help the shutter speed be more cinematic as it will screw the HyperSmooth. * I do plan sometime to play with ReelSmart Motion Blur to see if that's 180 degree shutter emulation will look good, but have to find a Tutorial for Resolve as I'm too busy to read everything. * I haven't played with stabilisation in post (e.g. the paid option in the GoPro Player desktop app), as I like to know I have the shot. Also not sure I can run Windows Store Apps as my logon is a Workgroup one not my Microsoft one) * I may play with it on the gimbal, as it will help in some cases (such as walking on a slope), but only if I can combine it with hypersmooth
Do you need Studio to edit 4K too or just the 5K? I use Hero 7 now, I use can edit 4K 60, no problem. I have windows 11, so no codec issue, no need to convert. The files are MP4 Hevc, is that the case on 9 too?
Regarding low-light performance, given the Hero 11 is an action camera built around a mobility and, well, action, are there any in this 'class' of cameras that performs notably better? Noise is unwanted of course, but I can't really go around with a full frame rig strapped to my chest while walking through the city haha. Thanks for the quality reviews as always, and hello from Australia!
Hello guys! Again, I have to mention that lately your videos looks outstanding. I dont know if the GH6 is the reason, or some magic lens that Jordan is using, but it is visible. Especially where Chris is sitting around 5.02 . maybe the lighting was setup nicely but it is spot on. I am also interested if you can share, if your audio setup was changed lately, like lav mics and wireless transmiters/recievers. Cheers!
How many times did the camera lock up / freeze / stop recording, and lose that footage? Related OR unrelated to overheating? My Hero 10s freeze / lockup all the time - still show that they are recording (red light flashing) but they are frozen and not recording... not related to overheating at all; they are attached to the wing of my plane, lots of airflow and moderately cool temperatures.
Love that the horizon lock on these goes up to the higher resolutions. For what its worth, you could get horizon lock to work on a GoPro 9 and 10 by just turning on the "max lens mod" mode without a max lens mod on. I feel like the max lens mod was a bit of a scam...
My main concern is the bitrate. Is it high enough for lots of fish and stuff in the same frame? I've had issues with other cameras before where the quality is great with calm motion but too much going on and it's a blurry mess. Is it a locked bitrate, is it variable, does it cap at each resolution or unlimited? These are all questions that I can't find answers for.
No other camera can do horizon locking like this one? Are you sure? I think I just saw a video by MKBHD where he demoed the new insta360 with the same capability, except, you know, 360 degrees wide
Thanks for the video. I have 2 questions regarding Hero 11. 1.Am I wrong or GoPro removed narrow lens? 2.when shooting the footage my GoPro 11 is starting with flat colors and slowly it is changing colors to vibrant in the same video. Vibrant colors we chosen before and resolution is 2.7K 60fps. Thank you in advance for your respond 🙃.
@@NikhilShahi I want to use it on my motorcycle so it needs to be able to record for a few hours without pause and without overheating. I use an external battery so energy won’t be a problems.
When shooting stills, is there still a huge and noticeable delay when pressing the shutter release to make a frame? I used an older version to shoot wide photos when I my primary rig was set up for macro stills while scuba diving. And, how you say, it blows.
While GoPro still wins in the ruggedness competition prob, it has a very limited product line. No 1-inch sensor (where footage doesn't look as crappy next to your mirrorless video) and no gimbal action camera, really a must for low-light videography.
I still use a Hero 8 and not that often but I can see times when I would use it more and the 11 looks like a better camera, especially to use with my GH6 for certain B roll POV shots as I have plans to use a GoPro in the future for certain shots. The motion looks a bit better as the one issue I have had with GoPros is that I shoot 25fps normally and on GoPros when shooting 25fps, motion can look a bit jerky when panning.
I need no distortion, so can you install an aftermarket lens? I contacted Peau Production, they said 10 lens was glued on so hard they could not remove it without destroying the camera. So is that the case with 11? I shoot mountain biking Pov, I need the trail to look as it looks in real life, I can't have distortion. I still use my PeauPro87 3.37mm (19mm) f/2.8 GoPro Hero 7 Black.
Neither of you mentioned sound quality. My Hero 8 has trash audio. I need the media mod so I can plug in a mic. I presume, since the 11 Black remains waterproof, there's no mic port. Will it fit into the 9/10 Black's media mod?
I had several GoPro cameras and all of them had software issues. Freezing and not responding is the most common problem. Does not matter how good the image is, it will stop working when you need it. Crap, avoid!
These all have the similar freeze bugs issues, and the overheat issues , and the "NEW BURN UP" overheat issues too, nothing new, so it is a lottery pick IF you get a reasonably good one that lives long enough to have a few years.
Hello, First of all thanks for your reviews !! There is a question I wonder about this new GoPro. There is (to me anyway) a major problems with all previous GoPros, when you take a photo it takes quite a while to really take it and another long time for the image to be recorded. I could not find if this has been fixed on GoPro 9 ou 10, so for now I keep my hero 8. But if that has been fixed... Thanks.
Nice job on the video! I often use the horizon lock with the max lens mod and Hero 9. It is useful. Maybe the 11 is going to be a bit higher quality and work better in lower light without the need of the add-on lens. Though I assume it's not as wide. Is there a max lens setting in the 11? I'm glad accessories and batteries appear to be compatible. I just picked up three of the Enduro batteries to replace my blue ones that were starting to puff up a bit. The price jump isn't great and they basically force buying it on their site to get a decent-ish deal.
I also want to know about this. The overheat problem killed what I needed the 10s for. As well, the 10 didn’t work plugged in. The power was read as too weak and it shut down. Somehow the firmware never addressed that. Same problem with the 11?
I don’t care about the higher frame rates, so does 24p have the best image at all? The image looks very video at all the higher frame rates, even 30p. I’m wondering if you set it t lower framerate and lower resolution if it looks a bit less digital
Hang on, is Hyperview using an anamorphic lens? Otherwise "8x7 Full Frame" isn't using all of the sensor. How else would you increase the Field of View?
Thanks DPReview... I stopped buying GoPro and switched to Insta360 after the Hero 10. I got tired of footage being corrupted and unusable. I would come home and find files just MISSING on the SD card after a shoot, and GoPro has SERIOUS issues with this. That coupled with the 1 inch Leica mod for the Insta360 and the fact that I can get far more versatility from it made me happy with the switch. GoPro has pros, like a larger retail presence in the real world, not needing to order accessories from China and Insta360 tends to have back order issues, but they released FOUR CAMERAS this year, all in different niche catagories. GoPro is being crushed by the smartphone market, and instead of innovating they are releasing point updates to their current lineup, which won't last forever for them.
When I film on the street busking footage on the go pros... the shops lights in the back ground flicker... people say to change to 25fps altho it does'nt make a difference which frames it is... there are anti flickering special effects on the video editing software, altho when I over lay it, the sacrifice is the people walking through that area is blurry.... double the nightmear if the footage is handheld... will this ever be resolved??!!
For those wondering, this was filmed on the Panasonic GH6 @ 4K/60P.
It looks amazing!
It really looks much better than older videos
Love the 60 FPS!
Now I get it. It is not because of the GH6, 60P is the sauce. Thanks for sharing
Was wondering what was up with the frame rate around 1:55 - it looked “off”
Horizon locking has been something that Insta360 has been doing for a while now. To me this is a supped up Insta360 Go 2 just with a larger footprint.
Exactly. Not sure why Jordan said no one else can do that. Insta’s been doing if for years. Also, i’d rather grab their One RS camera which is basically same price as this but with more features and modules available. Does horizon lock too and has one inch sensor
I also saw this on Parrot drones many many years ago...
@@johnbunani1341 insta360 doesn't have 10 bit yet, pros will care about that. Both DJI and Gopro have announced it today. And I think insta360 will do it at some point, because they listen to consumers a lot more than DJI and Gopro.
@@xWood4000,
Yeah devil is in the details. I have all 3 brands and definitely comparing Go2 is a dis-service and/or means user never used these tools as a user/power user.
10-bit is bit depth so yeah no more banding in skies. But DR (dynamic range) is better on GP11 that A3 is struggling with so hope they can improve that.
Now I don’t know who came up with horizon lock first but Go2 released date was Mar’21 and GP9 was in Sept’20 with the Max Mod horizon lock so I don’t know who copied who.
Anyhow with GP11 has horizon lock n almost all shooting modes except slomo and only with the Linear digital lens while DJI and Insta is limited to I believe 2.7K or 4K30 for the A2 and One R 4K and 1” mods. What GP did copy is allow you to reframe the digital lenses after filming.
The 8:7 framing allows a lot of FOV changes without losing quality.
I guess to each of it’s own.
I would rank for DR, 10-bit, reusing accessories, higher resolution and more shooting modes a win for GP11. Add their replacement and cloud service as a bonus.
Then for magnetic design, UI/UX, colors, and bright, responsive, glitch-free touchscreens to DJI. Add their no hassle free refesh care program for replacements as a bonus as well (at least from mu experience).
For software features and editing on mobile app, lots of modular options, small form factor, and 360 hands down to Insta360. The after sale service has been horrific and what turns me off here as when you have a problem, communicating in English is hard, then time to send in, and time to get back, a new product has launched and you buy it and moved on (again, from a user since 2018 with the 1X) until GO2, One R 1”, and RS 360 1”.
@@johnbunani1341 Ya, with terrible color science and resolution spread over the entire 360 sphere- no cropping or the image falls to pieces- I have a rs one 1 inch (with dual sensors), it doesn't even come close to this go pro. Insta360 are really just toy cameras.
Just a note for those wondering about all the features of the HERO11 (and in most cases the 10 & 9), with Labs firmware your camera can do (and you can do to it) much more than it’s advertised on the box and what’s in the user manual.
Most importantly, it’s actually very easy to use, especially with the QRControl mobile app (Android & iOS).
With Labs firmware installed you not only get all the goodness of the latest general release firmware, you also get:
200 Mbps recording
Motion detection recording
Speed detection recording
Audio decibel (noise) detection recording
Global tone mapping On/Off
Local tone mapping On/Off
Global and Local tone mapping
Max shutter angle control
Exposure damping control
Extra long (days) time lapse on one battery
GPS time synchronization
USB power trigger
Burn in overlays
Custom file naming
12GB file length chaptering
GPS synced Sunrise/Sunset recording
Time code support via LTC
Auto generated Adobe style proxy files
On screen histogram
Burn in lap times
Luma sweep
Embed personal logo into video
Control length of Hindsight timeout (instead of default 15 minutes)
Increase digital gain of audio
Clean monitoring without overlays
Mute one or more channels of audio
True 24.0 (Cinema) frame rate (instead of broadcast 23.976)
Increased write frequency for higher precion file recoveries
Alternative exposure controls ........ and more.
Cool didn't know, thanks for the tip.👍
Anything in this firmware help low
Light recording?
@@rfunk8198 With Hypersmooth stabilization, yes, set the max shutter angle to prevent the shutter from dropping below 1/120 (1/240+ is best, but can be too dark). You can also increase the bitrate to 200 Mbps and turn on/off local and global tone mapping. Higher bitrate will capture more information and with both global and local tone mapoing on, you get more detail in shadow, but can get more noise.
In 4K/30fps the camera has 3DR noise reduction (not available in higher resolutions), which also helps.
Thanks for sharing this info!
Thanks for the review! I've been using the previous Hero 9 and 10 to film family holiday videos over the past couple of years. I love the fact you don't need to worry about the weather or stabilisation as both are fine, and in good light the quality looks decent, albeit a bit over-sharpened. Horrible in low light, so just avoid it. It's also great to take it underwater - I was snorkelling with it, and even shallow scuba was ok without a housing. I find them incredibly flexible cameras to take on family trips as you just don't need to worry about them. PS - the old Hero 9 could do the horizon lock trick if you had the Max Lens Mod fitted.
Quick tip, if you have pro tune on in the camera settings, you can adjust the sharpness level
@@950djb thanks!
It's amazing that I could hear your voice saying this in my head as I read 😂
Cheers!
@@eightbitJuan hah! I do tend to write as I speak. I hope you did the accent accurately!
@@eightbitJuan me too!!
So glad you guys changed the way you explain sensor size. Adding the word Type in front really explains it well and makes total sense!
Great stuff, Chris + Jordan! Thank you for putting the GoPro HERO11 Black through its paces. 🙌
Any way to convert the full frame footages to 16:9? No... Right?
waiting for the 360 max 2. and hopefully it has higher resolution. tired of the 5.7k.
I still miss the GoPro Session, please bring it back.
@@SatanSupimpa isn't that what the gopro 11 mini is trying to accomplish?
@@palmtrees89 I just learned about the Mini
So looks like the 8×7 sensor has little to do with improving low light capability but more to do with bringing horizon lock capability and larger frame size.
yeah i was really interested at first to get a bigger sensor but it's just so kids can put taller aspect ratios on trash tick tock. what a joke
Such a shame, was hoping it would finally be usable at lower light situations. That playpen was bright and it looked awful :(
Tictok, it's for uploading vertical videos to tiktok
The horizon locking feature seems cool and I can think of a few interesting shots you could get with it, but overall doesn't seem like much of an upgrade over my GoPro 9. A comparison with the last couple GoPro editions would be great, especially whether GP has addressed the overheating issue of the GP10.
Wait a min. . .the question is with Gopro 9 we were introduced to horizon lock with the lens mod. . . is Gopro 11 capable of horizon lock WITHOUT the lens mod? That saves us $75 for the accessory. I skipped purchasing gopro 10 for the 11 looking for more features. 10 didn't seem like much of a progress leap from my 9 to make the purchase. And looking at the specs for 11, hopefully Gopro 12 will have 6k @ 120 fps or higher capability. I love seeing my chihuahuas running in slow motion [in higher res. is the goal]. I may get the mini [as well] for a doggy pov running.
@@palmtrees89 yes, horizon lock without the mod. Couple with enduro battery and it is a very good combo.
@@proProcrastinatooor excellente. ..this means when I go to Portugal for the street bullfights I can get it all captured no matter what angle I end up. . .
@@palmtrees89 be careful and good luck)
im here chilling with the hero 7 all these new go pros are crap bc at leat i can use my go pro with external power, a removed feature
Many thanks for not using vertical video on Jordan’s shower scene
they really miss the mark why people buy these.
we dont buy them for how good the video is, of course better video quality is a plus
but that buttery smooth footage we get as we walk, run, ski, without a gimbal is a huge reason these are so amazing
For photos one point not mentioned is voice command, "GoPro take a photo" or "GoPro start record" for video, and using the GoPro remote is very handy. Toggle between video, photo or hyperlapse modes quickly with the remote. Yea these add ons cost $ but provide huge versatility for Vlogging, mounting on a grip stick or gimbal. As shown in your review GoPro is not really designed to be used as a hand held pocket camera.
I have the 4 and 8. This is a huge upgrade
I'm still soured on GoPro after my Hero 8 Black kept freezing up randomly regardless of where I formatted the card nor the cards used. Then I bought the Hero 10 in hopes that the GP2 processor would fare a lot better for vehicle footage only to be met with a failed sensor which now spits out purple blotches before corrupting the file and shutting off, again regardless of where the cards were formatted or the cards used. My DJI Osmo Action and DJI Action 2 have proven very reliable and capable in both low light and high summer temps and I look forward to trying out the DJI Osmo Action 3.
With the horizon lock + spinning capability it sounds like they brought 360° functionality to the Hero 11 but in two dimensions. Sounds game changing.
When GoPro drops a one inch sensor in there, they will dominate everything.
scott - only true 360 lens like Max or Insta are 3 dimension
I had already ordered an 11, but am enjoying watching footage to pass the time until I get mine. Watched most of the reviews at this point; yours is by far the funniest!
The one thing I've found useful with GoPro's (as it relates to photography) is doing video while I'm shooting, because in some instances, I can mount the Go-Pro into an adapter on the hot-shoe of the camera and almost give a POV video of close to what I'm seeing, and sometimes I like to use it as I do photography hikes. I have my regular camera to get stills, and the GoPro sort of records everything else on the hike. Sometimes I'll take video with both (but the video with the actual regular camera will be more focused on something specific -- whereas the GoPro will be still more for overall footage). So yes I think they can be useful for regular stills photographers, and especially for those shooting video as they have gotten quite good you could use them for BTS shooting, and considering the cost, you can buy a few of these for the price of even a modern APS-C ML camera.
That being said, I'm still using my Hero 8 black and have no real intentions of upgrading. The 4k30 from the Hero 8 is plenty for what I do, and while the newer ones may offer better stabilization (the Hero 8 isn't bad by any means) I personally just can't justify the upgrade. IF I was doing vlogging or making money with my videos, then that would be different, but much of my videos and photography is for personal use and not really ever sold. But I do like the idea of being able to record a video of things while I'm shooting, especially if I'm hiking because I can just turn my head and look at things and capture it with the camera (as i use a headmount a lot when doing hiking with the GoPro).
A GOOD review like always! Two thumbs up from Kingsport, Tennessee!
Best DPRTV intro to date! 🤙
Strong, lads, keep it up! 💪
You wanted to show if it was worth using next to pro camera quality and did in the first 10 seconds. Gopro looks like actioncam over sharp, super digital or basically a phone video now. They should just promote it as the tik tok camera but then why would you need 4k at all? What's the dynamic range, 3 stops? Out of the kindness of their hearts they will let you upload to their servers and make a highlight video for you? Then what happens to your footage?
Issues I may have with the 11 Black:
* TH-cam seem to have stopped supporting 5k video since early July - surely a big problem (certainly is for me and my Hero 9 Black), upload a 5k video and the highest resolution you get is 4k (I do still have my older 5k videos).
* I really like the Linear+Levelling "Lens" mode on my 9, as it has a lot less ultra-wide distortion, is there an equivalent here? (Meaning the linear part, I get the levelling is even better.)
* Hypersmooth often falls off a cliff with a 180 degree shutter (see below) - any better?
Where I am:
I have a Hero 9 Black, it's really good and I do most of my videos with it now (previously a GH5 with a Dual-IS2 lens or a RX100V on a Crane-M gimbal - both before and now with some iPhone stuff too, sometimes with Filmic Pro but more with the built-in app as I'm usually doing it when I need to be videoing immediately).
Why I got a 9B as my first GoPro:
* Good battery life (the 10 seems a lot less so, didn't upgrade)
* Fixed all the really poor things from earlier models
* Really good 5k footage
* Great stabilisation
* Really light to hand-hold for long periods
* I felt there was so much high-shutter-speed phone footage out there people would probably be okay with the same from the GoPro (see below re Hypersmooth)
But:
**** TH-cam have stopped supporting 5k video since early July (-ish) so lose the 5k advantage of 1.78x the pixels vs. 4k
* I asked them to add a profile between Flat and Saturated/Contrasty and suggested calling it "Natural". They did this (no idea if it had anything to do with me) but didn't put it in the 9 (VERY annoyingly).
* Shooting stills is a very slow business and really not worth it most of the time (do a frame-grab from 5k) - that's just from pressing the shutter button until it's done, not including choosing the settings!
* High ISO is really quite noisy
* Hypersmooth only works with fast shutter speeds (I assume also on the 10 and 11), so don't want to limit the ISO to lower values to avoid the noise as then the stabilisation will fall off a cliff when it gets dark
* Hypersmooth really doesn't like being pointed downwards (e.g. to include a document in the video)
Notes
* If you use Resolve you'll need the Studio version to edit the content, not the free one (I already had it so not an issue)
* It splits videos into just under 4GB segments (maybe to allow for people who aren't using exFAT as their card's file system? Should do in one file for exFAT IMHO). You'll need to join them pre-TH-cam (options - in their App, but needs a lot of phone free space; in an editor on a PC/Mac; or some other way).
* As a quick approach you can use the command-line tool FFMPEG to concatenate files, first convert to .mkv format then join, then delete the mkv-s:
In the directory they are in make a file called files.txt containing one line per file you want to join, as:
file '1.mkv'
file '2.mkv'
file '3.mkv'
file '4.mkv'
Then convert the source files (in this example 4, replace GX*.MP4 with your filenames) as follows:
ffmpeg -i GX010505.MP4 -c copy 1.mkv
ffmpeg -i GX020505.MP4 -c copy 2.mkv
ffmpeg -i GX030505.MP4 -c copy 3.mkv
ffmpeg -i GX040505.MP4 -c copy 4.mkv
Which won't re-encode so will be pretty quick.
Then run:
ffmpeg -f concat -safe 0 -i files.txt -c copy VideoOut.mkv
Then delete the 1-4.mkv etc. files.
Change VideoOut.mkv extension if you want another container format, e.g. VideoOut.mp4.
It's quicker to do than describe. You just need the FFMPEG executable, links available from ffmpeg.org/download.html#build-windows
You can put it in the same directory as the videos, but in Windows may need to write .\ffmpeg to run it, as many Windows setups won't look for programs in the current directory.
* My preferred settings:
Res/FPS 5k/30, Lens Linear+HL, Hypersmooth On, Scheduled Capture Duration No Limit, HindSight Off, Timer Off, Zoom 1.0x
Bit Rate High, Shutter Auto, EV Comp 0, White Balance Auto, ISO Min 100, ISO Max 1600, Sharpness High, Color GoPro, Raw Audio Off, Wind Auto
Shortcuts - LL Lens, LR EV Comp, UL White Balance, UP HyperSmooth
Orientation locked (to avoid flip to portrait if point down and it gets confused
Front screen off (to save power) unless I'm in the shot, then 16:9
Beep Volume Low
QuikCapture Off
Default Preset - Last used Video
Auto Power Off 5 min
LEDs Front Off Only
Anti-flicker 60Hz (see 30Hz note below)
Video Compression HEVC
Voice Control Off
Display orientation Landscape, Screen saver read 5 min, front same as rear, brightness 80%
Wireless connection On, Wireless band 5GHz (adjust to suit, but 5GHz is much faster)
* Oh and I shoot 30p despite being in a PAL (25Hz) country as I think it makes for smoother Pans when viewed on screens which usually run at 60Hz, I would change to 25p if there were a lot of flickering lights around.
* I don't use the optional (extra cost) ND filters to help the shutter speed be more cinematic as it will screw the HyperSmooth.
* I do plan sometime to play with ReelSmart Motion Blur to see if that's 180 degree shutter emulation will look good, but have to find a Tutorial for Resolve as I'm too busy to read everything.
* I haven't played with stabilisation in post (e.g. the paid option in the GoPro Player desktop app), as I like to know I have the shot. Also not sure I can run Windows Store Apps as my logon is a Workgroup one not my Microsoft one)
* I may play with it on the gimbal, as it will help in some cases (such as walking on a slope), but only if I can combine it with hypersmooth
Do you need Studio to edit 4K too or just the 5K? I use Hero 7 now, I use can edit 4K 60, no problem. I have windows 11, so no codec issue, no need to convert.
The files are MP4 Hevc, is that the case on 9 too?
The horizon lock looks useful, a real time saver.
Horizon lock: “nothing else can do it”
I believe Insta360 had it years ago in many of their (360 or non-360) products
I have a Hero 8 Black, still happy with it - that horizon lock feature does look pretty interesting though
Full-uncensored footage of 3:45 when?
Regarding low-light performance, given the Hero 11 is an action camera built around a mobility and, well, action, are there any in this 'class' of cameras that performs notably better? Noise is unwanted of course, but I can't really go around with a full frame rig strapped to my chest while walking through the city haha. Thanks for the quality reviews as always, and hello from Australia!
11:38 My insta 360 go2 'pushes x to doubt' in terms of nothing else can do horizon lock (also square sensor for after the fact framing)
Is it just me or did the sound break at 3:05. Sample footage is largely without commentary/narration.
Is 10bit available at all resolutions and framerates?
Jordan, the non-gopro footage in this video looked great! Also really like the over-the-shoulder shit of Chris playing chess. Well done!
Hello guys! Again, I have to mention that lately your videos looks outstanding. I dont know if the GH6 is the reason, or some magic lens that Jordan is using, but it is visible. Especially where Chris is sitting around 5.02 . maybe the lighting was setup nicely but it is spot on. I am also interested if you can share, if your audio setup was changed lately, like lav mics and wireless transmiters/recievers. Cheers!
Yeah I noticed the higher quality too I wonder what camera they're using.
@@MrWiseinheart Last time, they said that it is GH6 Pana.
How many times did the camera lock up / freeze / stop recording, and lose that footage? Related OR unrelated to overheating? My Hero 10s freeze / lockup all the time - still show that they are recording (red light flashing) but they are frozen and not recording... not related to overheating at all; they are attached to the wing of my plane, lots of airflow and moderately cool temperatures.
Can you have 16:9 hyperview and hypersmooth 5 on boost?
At hyperview mode does it shoots on 4k 60fps?
Ahahah, that shot of Jordan having coffee was epic!
Can you use the older style batteries, And what's the average battery life in 1080P, vid ?
Thanks for the Information.
Love that the horizon lock on these goes up to the higher resolutions. For what its worth, you could get horizon lock to work on a GoPro 9 and 10 by just turning on the "max lens mod" mode without a max lens mod on. I feel like the max lens mod was a bit of a scam...
My main concern is the bitrate. Is it high enough for lots of fish and stuff in the same frame? I've had issues with other cameras before where the quality is great with calm motion but too much going on and it's a blurry mess. Is it a locked bitrate, is it variable, does it cap at each resolution or unlimited? These are all questions that I can't find answers for.
No other camera can do horizon locking like this one? Are you sure? I think I just saw a video by MKBHD where he demoed the new insta360 with the same capability, except, you know, 360 degrees wide
Yep most cameras from Insta360 can do it - even the Go 2! So can the GoPro Hero Max and Hero 9 and 10 with the Max Lens Mod (in the appropriate mode)
Beautiful review. Just got the Hero 11 and can’t wait to get it going. You guys are amazing.
Thanks for the video. I have 2 questions regarding Hero 11.
1.Am I wrong or GoPro removed narrow lens?
2.when shooting the footage my GoPro 11 is starting with flat colors and slowly it is changing colors to vibrant in the same video. Vibrant colors we chosen before and resolution is 2.7K 60fps.
Thank you in advance for your respond 🙃.
Great review, thx for sharing the information
What camera are you using to film yourself at the beginning of the video and what setting? I like the "lifelike" setting. Great quality.
How long can it record continuously without overheating?
Couple of videos show 15 minutes at 4K60. The Action 3 went over 35 mins at same settings.
@@NikhilShahi I want to use it on my motorcycle so it needs to be able to record for a few hours without pause and without overheating. I use an external battery so energy won’t be a problems.
Will you review the 11 mini?
Is it really worth buying over the new iPhone 14
Great review as always! Thanks!
When shooting stills, is there still a huge and noticeable delay when pressing the shutter release to make a frame? I used an older version to shoot wide photos when I my primary rig was set up for macro stills while scuba diving. And, how you say, it blows.
Oh yes !! I also would like to know that ! On the Hero 8, it is quite impossible to decide what you shoot
Great video. Thank you. You've convinced me to get one.
Excellent review! 👍 Keep up the good work...your insight helps us all tremendously! 😉
Chris saying I SHIT YOU NOT hits different
Heading to Thailand next month. Staying for a month. Getting this asap
Very important review of Gopro Hero 11, thank you very much for exausted testing of different aspect ratios.
Love your reviews! Keep up the good work.
I've got a Hero 9 Black and see no compelling reason to upgrade! Camera still suffers in low light..
Consider upgrading to the 10. I had the 9 and it was sooooo slow. The cpu on the 10 created a lightning fast interface.
I agree, nothing special, to be honest!
While GoPro still wins in the ruggedness competition prob, it has a very limited product line. No 1-inch sensor (where footage doesn't look as crappy next to your mirrorless video) and no gimbal action camera, really a must for low-light videography.
@@BikeStuffPDX Agreed!!
for low light action, the only solution is dji pocket.
what camera and lens did you guys use to make this video. it looks so good. the bokeh is mwahh
I still use a Hero 8 and not that often but I can see times when I would use it more and the 11 looks like a better camera, especially to use with my GH6 for certain B roll POV shots as I have plans to use a GoPro in the future for certain shots. The motion looks a bit better as the one issue I have had with GoPros is that I shoot 25fps normally and on GoPros when shooting 25fps, motion can look a bit jerky when panning.
Can you tell me what camera you used to film your talking portions, like the video clips not filmed on the go pro? They are so crisp and clear!
The talking points were shot on the Panasonic GH6
@@dpreview thank you so much for responding ☺️
Great review like always! Did new GoPro have 10 bit 4.2.2.?
So cool that you fly fish Chris! The horizon lock feature is pretty awesome!
Thanks for this review!
What camera and microphone do you use to make your review videos? Excellent quality!
I thought you were Roger Clark on the thumbnail 😔
05:04 What was the camera used here? Awesome exposure on skin tones.
Good ol’ GH6
@@dpreview Love it
Jordon says nothing else can do the horizon lock feature but my Insta360 One X2 certainly can and has been able to for at least a year now.
Which camera this episode was shot on? Looks really good
That 60fps got me a bit there. In used to 24 or 30.
I need no distortion, so can you install an aftermarket lens? I contacted Peau Production, they said 10 lens was glued on so hard they could not remove it without destroying the camera.
So is that the case with 11? I shoot mountain biking Pov, I need the trail to look as it looks in real life, I can't have distortion.
I still use my PeauPro87 3.37mm (19mm) f/2.8 GoPro Hero 7 Black.
Neither of you mentioned sound quality. My Hero 8 has trash audio. I need the media mod so I can plug in a mic. I presume, since the 11 Black remains waterproof, there's no mic port. Will it fit into the 9/10 Black's media mod?
Very fair and even handed review!
I had several GoPro cameras and all of them had software issues. Freezing and not responding is the most common problem. Does not matter how good the image is, it will stop working when you need it. Crap, avoid!
These all have the similar freeze bugs issues, and the overheat issues , and the "NEW BURN UP" overheat issues too, nothing new, so it is a lottery pick IF you get a reasonably good one that lives long enough to have a few years.
Cannot wait for a 2x anamorphic Lens adapter coming out for this one here... now that would become a bestseller....
Do you know if you guys are getting the GF 20-35mm to check out soon?
Hello,
First of all thanks for your reviews !! There is a question I wonder about this new GoPro. There is (to me anyway) a major problems with all previous GoPros, when you take a photo it takes quite a while to really take it and another long time for the image to be recorded. I could not find if this has been fixed on GoPro 9 ou 10, so for now I keep my hero 8. But if that has been fixed... Thanks.
I will consider it after seeing you are fly fishing :)))) Great review. Nice catch and footage in landing net 😀
This makes me hope for the pocket 3 to come out soon. Great review, mates!
Nice job on the video! I often use the horizon lock with the max lens mod and Hero 9. It is useful. Maybe the 11 is going to be a bit higher quality and work better in lower light without the need of the add-on lens. Though I assume it's not as wide. Is there a max lens setting in the 11? I'm glad accessories and batteries appear to be compatible. I just picked up three of the Enduro batteries to replace my blue ones that were starting to puff up a bit. The price jump isn't great and they basically force buying it on their site to get a decent-ish deal.
Hi, any plans to make a review of insta360 x3 and insta360 1 inch?
You reckon I should wait for a potential black friday deal? Or slim chance of having such a deal this early?
I buy any gear only after viewing your reviews. Now I m planning my first gopro.
i'm really wondering about overheat.
gopro 10 was unusable taking 4k video because of overheat.
I also want to know about this. The overheat problem killed what I needed the 10s for. As well, the 10 didn’t work plugged in. The power was read as too weak and it shut down. Somehow the firmware never addressed that. Same problem with the 11?
Would be interesting if one of the camera brands took the sensor and scaled it up. A close enough return to 6x6!
How do you turn the horizon lock on because I'm shooting on the 11 4K 60 but when I replay the clip it's like there is no horizon lock working.
Going to order one. That looks fun to use and play around with.
I don’t care about the higher frame rates, so does 24p have the best image at all? The image looks very video at all the higher frame rates, even 30p. I’m wondering if you set it t lower framerate and lower resolution if it looks a bit less digital
I’m now more interested in what camera and lens are you using to film this?
I had no idea Chris was so cool!
Hang on, is Hyperview using an anamorphic lens? Otherwise "8x7 Full Frame" isn't using all of the sensor. How else would you increase the Field of View?
I'm curious what kind of camera was used to record this review? you didn't mention it at the beginning ;) Great review btw!
2:24 "the wider you go, the radder you get" I actual lolz at that line. They couldn't of said that, surely not?! 😅
They sad it on the press briefing. It was… something.
Jordan @ DPReview TV
Thanks DPReview... I stopped buying GoPro and switched to Insta360 after the Hero 10. I got tired of footage being corrupted and unusable. I would come home and find files just MISSING on the SD card after a shoot, and GoPro has SERIOUS issues with this. That coupled with the 1 inch Leica mod for the Insta360 and the fact that I can get far more versatility from it made me happy with the switch. GoPro has pros, like a larger retail presence in the real world, not needing to order accessories from China and Insta360 tends to have back order issues, but they released FOUR CAMERAS this year, all in different niche catagories.
GoPro is being crushed by the smartphone market, and instead of innovating they are releasing point updates to their current lineup, which won't last forever for them.
You guys are a laugh a minute! Gnarly dude! Good content!
I'm still using go pro 7 black ! Still awesome 👌
Yes, very reliable too, has been bug free. PeauPro87 3.37mm (19mm) f/2.8 GoPro Hero 7 Black, So no distortion.👌
What was this episode shot on? It looks a little different.... Also, please test rolling shutter. That really matters with this kind of videography.
When I film on the street busking footage on the go pros... the shops lights in the back ground flicker... people say to change to 25fps altho it does'nt make a difference which frames it is... there are anti flickering special effects on the video editing software, altho when I over lay it, the sacrifice is the people walking through that area is blurry.... double the nightmear if the footage is handheld... will this ever be resolved??!!
6:14 Minor correction: the lens is F/2.5, not F/2.8
What would that be in the real proper camera equivalent numbers that a cinematographer would understand and work with? F/11?
Can you compare it to the Action3?
That horizon lock is really cool!
Great review as always. but why did video took by 60fps? it's bit tooo smooth... LOL
I still use hero 7 black wait for 12 or go for 11 will see
What is the camera you were using in this video ??????