14:25 - If an orb can pierce a peg, it can go through vines! The x was because you would hit a peg at the same time, triggering the vine to cath the ball. If an orb pierces a vine, the vine gets removed, too! You can see that happening with the poltorb a little later, going upwards and piercing the vine
@@FoxSlyme It depends on what you count as pegs. You are correct that 416 pegs were hit but hitting bombs also count towards the corn but not to damage so it's really up to your definition of "pegs"
The statue upgrade is TECHNICALLY a good deal. One upgrade for 15, then leaving for 5, is a 20 cost upgrade. One for 15, one for 20, then leaving for 10, is two upgrades for 45, which is 22.5 each, which is slightly better than doing it normally. Plus it happens in one floor, where normally getting two in one is 25 and 35. I sometimes have to give myself this pep talk when I get scared by the cost of leaving. It is worth it up to two!
23:55 Unfortunately, nothing happens if you get all of them in one run, because A. you're not intended to, as each chess piece is locked to a specific class and B. there's only 3 out of 6 chess pieces
4:04 Bats can actually see just fine. They have pretty good eyes that help them see in the dark. They get that reputation from what looks like erratic flight and the use of echolocation to aid in finding food (instead of relying purely on sight).
"Can something invisible can go blind?" Realistically, if someone could become invisible, since light couldn't go through their eyes, then yes, they would be blind.
FUN FACT : There are no blind bat species. Not a one. Most have Better low-light vision than humans could hope to have, they just use Echolocation for food location ( And to augment their vision while zipping around in the dark
an interesting thing about the chain is now that it has 2 direction shots you really only have 2 choices on where to shoot them so making it 3 options instead of 4 for angles to shoot would actually make it stronger. a very interesting example of how lowering stats can buff things sometimes
22:37 Haven’t you seen the videos of the mirrors reflecting things that are hidden behind a piece of paper, like an egg? The mirrors see too much, we must blind them before it’s too late!
14:25 I believe the Go for the Icircle does actually pierce vines before it pierces it's first peg, Icircle does the same, Concetrication and Necorbmancer also ignore vines, as does Poltorbgeist when traveling upward, which did happen later in that fight. (I might have forgotten one, but generally pierce effects ignore vines)
15:12 Yup, and Poltorbgeist is not the only orb that can break vines either. I'm sure you can figure them out. Getting one of those orbs is usually a game changer for the Leshy fight.
Tyler, what's been your favourite moment while pegging so far? My favourite moment is when you decided to duplicate all of your orbs at an event while you had the Anvil while at low HP.
Constricting chains is never good IMO lol You might get your run to level 3, but the upside down elite is pretty much a guaranteed run ender. Your second orb is shot straight into the pit, and out of the two directions your other shot can go, neither is sufficiently upward to hit more then like 5 pegs before crashing back down. Never mind, I take that back! I never considered that taking both the bad boss relics, that it actually becomes good! That's amazing!
I just found something out (although I'm not fully sure if it's true). If you look at 24:25, you can see that Tyler is getting coins from his shot. But before the balls fall down, the game gives him his coins. That means that the game preplans how a shot will go before it is finished.
Has anyone else noticed that the angles that constricting chains makes you shoot at is initally formed from where you cursor is when you start aiming a shot?
The coin is actually good now, and you should take it next time you get the chance. I will explain how it changed so stop reading to avoid spoilers. So now there are two slots that are 2X damage, two that are 1X damage, and 1 that is 0.5X damage, meaning if all your shots landed randomly your average damage would be 30% more. But more importantly, every time the ball falls in a hole it multiplies shot damage by that amount, so if you have multi-ball and 3 balls land in 2x, that is 8x damage. In other words, you get exponential damage scaling with the coin and multi-ball. The formula for average damage if all shots are random is (shot damage) x 1.3 ^ (# of balls). So a 300 damage shot with 5 balls would have an expected average damage of over 1100 damage. Obviously there is no X1.3 multiplier so that is a formula for average. Realistically the damage is likely to be way higher hitting multiple 2X slots, cause your shots are not random and you can give a bias towards better slots. And the pie slice still protects you from the crappy 0.5 slot. I believe the fire was moved to a 1X slot to balance the pie.
You're actually wrong and it is still bad for a very simple reason. For most regular enemies you can 1-shot them, so there is no damage boost only losses. This gives regular enemies more chances to get closer and ranged ones more chances to attack. But what is even worse is the law of averages doesn't really matter, you can get multiple .5x in a row entirely based on luck and board design as you need to refresh. The board design can also make it so you're doing effectively 0x damage with multiball. 30% damage over an extremely long period of time isn't practical when you're losing in bursts which can end your entire run. You can realistically expect multiple .5x in a row a few times a run. Unless you're so overpowered the .5x doesn't matter this still isn't good and is crippling against some bosses which have minions. It is a trap.
Ladies and gentlemen, thanks to a new update, "constricting chains" multiple choice questions have all been converted to true or false questions, and Tyler couldn’t be happier, as I would be too. "Kids these days just want descisions to be made for them and to reap the benefits anyways, gonna ruin this world." -That one local old cranky man.
Making this comment before watching the video so i might be repeating previously stated thoughts, but while constricting chains are good, they are not fun. It makes the game less about strategy and more about seeing big numbers, which while big numbers are fun, feeling so limited isn't.
Wait doesn't that mean the confusion mask and the chains combo really well? Essentially partially cancelling each other out and just leaving their boons? EDIT: Oh you got both, nice~!
I still don't love Constricting Chains. I feel like most of what makes Peglin fun and unique as a roguelike deckbuilder is the skill expression in terms of your aiming, which Constricting Chains gets rid of almost entirely. Since it fires in the opposite direction now, there are literally only two choices for where to shoot. I think it would be a lot better while still retaining the spirit of the relic if each "direction" you could aim was actually a small arc rather than just one angle, maybe like 22.5 degrees. You could mess with the numbers, but that way it would still heavily restrict your shots (only a quarter of the circle would be available), while encouraging creative shots rather than just guesswork. It would definitely make Constricting Chains much less annoying to use, especially for navigation, and I still don't think it would be unbalanced because it's honestly still quite weak.
Hey Tyler, any chance you'll go back to Bloons soon? ... No, not BTD6. There's a new Bloons game that's a strategy card game, kind of like Slay the Spire (as a blanket-cover comparison). Might be more up your alley.
I'm starting to think there's too many orbs or relics with multiball now, it appears every run or so, I don't think multiball is a bad thing I just wish there was more creativity.
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Oh boy I'm really excited to watch Tyler experiment with constricting chains while pegging
PLEASE! PLEASE GO AWAY! I ALREADY SAID I DONT HAVE ANY NUGGETS! PLEAAAAAASE!!!
Mm i too enjoy being chained and pegged
real
Wait what did you just say
@@Shooshpa-z2eNugget needs Nugget's nuggets for Nugget's friend Lily, and not the green ones
22:32 he still remembers... somewhere in there... there's still the Bloons player...
Theres still a bike and it has a dildo.
Im so glad you pointed this out😂😂😂
Despite everything, it's still you
I don't know the game well enough to get it. Was that just a really hard wave?
The mind forgets but the bones remember
Constricting chains and pegging. There’s a joke to be found here but I can’t figure it out
Yeah the concept is the joke itself at this point
Not to mention balls
The jokes really just write themselves
kinky
The pieces are here.
I'll figure this out.
14:25 - If an orb can pierce a peg, it can go through vines! The x was because you would hit a peg at the same time, triggering the vine to cath the ball. If an orb pierces a vine, the vine gets removed, too!
You can see that happening with the poltorb a little later, going upwards and piercing the vine
_"You can't come into a Roguelike with a pre-determined plan!"_
*glances at Slay the Spire and The Watcher* 🤨
Then you see a divinity infinite instead of the normal one
_glances at flush brute force_
I don't know why I felt the need to do this but that poltorbgeist at 22:56 ended up hitting a grand total of 425 pegs
Very specific, love you
Why not 416?
@@FoxSlyme I went based off the the corn not damage values
@LimeonCandy so which one is correct and why?
@@FoxSlyme It depends on what you count as pegs. You are correct that 416 pegs were hit but hitting bombs also count towards the corn but not to damage so it's really up to your definition of "pegs"
The statue upgrade is TECHNICALLY a good deal. One upgrade for 15, then leaving for 5, is a 20 cost upgrade. One for 15, one for 20, then leaving for 10, is two upgrades for 45, which is 22.5 each, which is slightly better than doing it normally. Plus it happens in one floor, where normally getting two in one is 25 and 35.
I sometimes have to give myself this pep talk when I get scared by the cost of leaving. It is worth it up to two!
23:55 Unfortunately, nothing happens if you get all of them in one run, because A. you're not intended to, as each chess piece is locked to a specific class and B. there's only 3 out of 6 chess pieces
I thought "wdym out of 6, there are way more!"
Then I understood -_-
Generally you don’t call a pawn a piece unless you mean the physical set
22:33 he's having bloons flashbacks
4:04 Bats can actually see just fine. They have pretty good eyes that help them see in the dark. They get that reputation from what looks like erratic flight and the use of echolocation to aid in finding food (instead of relying purely on sight).
"Can something invisible can go blind?" Realistically, if someone could become invisible, since light couldn't go through their eyes, then yes, they would be blind.
Well unless something can both absorb and emit light perfectly to create the illusion of invisibility
@@rysea9855 Or if the invisibility is just illusion magic, meaning it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with photons.
@@rysea9855Really the invisibility we can currently create is through bending light.
maybe the invisibility was the friends we made along the way
1:27, these quick witted jokes are part of the reason i subbed to this guy hell yeah
FUN FACT : There are no blind bat species. Not a one. Most have Better low-light vision than humans could hope to have, they just use Echolocation for food location ( And to augment their vision while zipping around in the dark
This said it's still reasonable for Bats to be immune to blinding because they can echolocate.
an interesting thing about the chain is now that it has 2 direction shots you really only have 2 choices on where to shoot them so making it 3 options instead of 4 for angles to shoot would actually make it stronger. a very interesting example of how lowering stats can buff things sometimes
Biggest betrayal in gaming?
Mario jumping off Yoshi over a pit to get the goal, no.
Tyler removing a level 3 poltergeist because he can.
Like Yoshi, Poltorbgeist is a tool to be used and discarded.
This is my favorite series on your channel
25:35 It would be funny if chain + confusion made it switch between the 4 directions, rather than rotate freely
22:37 Haven’t you seen the videos of the mirrors reflecting things that are hidden behind a piece of paper, like an egg? The mirrors see too much, we must blind them before it’s too late!
Is it just me...or was 32:02 Oddly satisfying to watch the big Icicle pierce through all the enemies XD
A little tip for dealing with confusion, just remember that you're constantly playing at 2x speed, so just slow it back down
Im pretty sure the aimer spins at the same speed no matter the game speed.
He tries this at 28:40, it doesn't change
14:25 I believe the Go for the Icircle does actually pierce vines before it pierces it's first peg, Icircle does the same, Concetrication and Necorbmancer also ignore vines, as does Poltorbgeist when traveling upward, which did happen later in that fight. (I might have forgotten one, but generally pierce effects ignore vines)
Also the lazorb
15:12 Yup, and Poltorbgeist is not the only orb that can break vines either. I'm sure you can figure them out. Getting one of those orbs is usually a game changer for the Leshy fight.
Just to note in case Tyler didn’t notice - there are coins in the minesweeper fight
Shout out to Ben for editing
very
0:45 Flexi-ball
and
Molda-ball
mallea-ball
22:23 While it may seem like he will never make bloons content ever again. Let’s be honest, he’s never really stopped making bloons content
Take a shot everytime someone in the comments makes an innuendo. Take 2 if it has to do with the title. Take 3 if it's also referenced in the video.
Are you trying to get someone killed?! 😂
Can't wait for our weekly peggin' sesh. so excited! :)
Its funny, bats arent blind, they can actually see! They just cant see in the daylight, and also use echolocation.
Tyler, what's been your favourite moment while pegging so far?
My favourite moment is when you decided to duplicate all of your orbs at an event while you had the Anvil while at low HP.
Ah... yes 22:33 63, terrifying number indeed
14:20 yes it pierces through it as if it was its first peg
23:33 All of the orbs benefit from criticals, so that Critsoballos would go hard ⚠
i find really funny that this build counters really hard the spawners and single target, and got the ballista as act 2 boss
Constricting chains is never good IMO lol You might get your run to level 3, but the upside down elite is pretty much a guaranteed run ender. Your second orb is shot straight into the pit, and out of the two directions your other shot can go, neither is sufficiently upward to hit more then like 5 pegs before crashing back down.
Never mind, I take that back! I never considered that taking both the bad boss relics, that it actually becomes good! That's amazing!
Just gonna shout out the editor for speeding up the gameplay while keeping Tyler’s frame at normal speed to keep the video more watchable
That was a tense watch after watching you take chains, and the dropping poltorbgiest!
I just found something out (although I'm not fully sure if it's true). If you look at 24:25, you can see that Tyler is getting coins from his shot. But before the balls fall down, the game gives him his coins. That means that the game preplans how a shot will go before it is finished.
ran straight to the comments after hearing 63
I know this wouldn't be your regular type of video, but would you make an orb Tier list and/or a relic tier list? I would enjoy that.
The mirrors halve targeted damage, but don't reflect it. They reflect anything you throw horizontally, but those also do 2x damage.
Has anyone else noticed that the angles that constricting chains makes you shoot at is initally formed from where you cursor is when you start aiming a shot?
Can’t believe he would do that to my boy poltorbgeist
Constricting Chains - Cursed Mask combo is sick
Okay. I was not expected that Boss Relic combo. That's awesome.
Always pleased to see more Peglin
Consitricting Chains + Cursed Mask.
He got that Seija Kijin build online.
"who needs poltorbgeist?" Immediately then needs poltorbgeist
In Russian, the relic is called "Цепи Руины" or "The Chain That Ruin"
4:09 actually, bats have completely average eyesight. The "blind as a bat" came from old people being called "an old bat", not the animal
The coin is actually good now, and you should take it next time you get the chance. I will explain how it changed so stop reading to avoid spoilers.
So now there are two slots that are 2X damage, two that are 1X damage, and 1 that is 0.5X damage, meaning if all your shots landed randomly your average damage would be 30% more. But more importantly, every time the ball falls in a hole it multiplies shot damage by that amount, so if you have multi-ball and 3 balls land in 2x, that is 8x damage. In other words, you get exponential damage scaling with the coin and multi-ball. The formula for average damage if all shots are random is (shot damage) x 1.3 ^ (# of balls). So a 300 damage shot with 5 balls would have an expected average damage of over 1100 damage. Obviously there is no X1.3 multiplier so that is a formula for average. Realistically the damage is likely to be way higher hitting multiple 2X slots, cause your shots are not random and you can give a bias towards better slots. And the pie slice still protects you from the crappy 0.5 slot. I believe the fire was moved to a 1X slot to balance the pie.
You're actually wrong and it is still bad for a very simple reason.
For most regular enemies you can 1-shot them, so there is no damage boost only losses. This gives regular enemies more chances to get closer and ranged ones more chances to attack. But what is even worse is the law of averages doesn't really matter, you can get multiple .5x in a row entirely based on luck and board design as you need to refresh. The board design can also make it so you're doing effectively 0x damage with multiball.
30% damage over an extremely long period of time isn't practical when you're losing in bursts which can end your entire run. You can realistically expect multiple .5x in a row a few times a run. Unless you're so overpowered the .5x doesn't matter this still isn't good and is crippling against some bosses which have minions.
It is a trap.
Favorite orbs people?
I will go first:
Sworb because sworb
Morbidorb but only if it’s pronounced: „Mor-bi-dorb“.
Concentrication my beloved ❤
bouldorb
I'm particularily fond of Orbsium, especially with relics like Gift or Defresh Potion.
Ball Lightning because of the recent buff
if there's not an achievement called "untoucha-ball" for getting through a game without taking any damage, there should be.
Love your Peglin videos! Would you consider doing a run where you can only take purple balls? Might be kind of a cool challenge to mix things up
Thanks for the video
Orbs that pierce through pegs also pierce through vines
This includes icircle
There is a relic you can get that increases your max evasion to 300.
Imagine if making a mirror blind applied half as much blind to you.
It would be cool if while you had the chains if you got the forging event you could have the chains removed and it would give you some other relic.
33:08 just after he said it the invisible enemy missed due to blind
11:14 It actually missed because of the 5% blind thats crazy
Ladies and gentlemen, thanks to a new update, "constricting chains" multiple choice questions have all been converted to true or false questions, and Tyler couldn’t be happier, as I would be too.
"Kids these days just want descisions to be made for them and to reap the benefits anyways, gonna ruin this world." -That one local old cranky man.
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A moment of silence for the Poltorbgeist
Huh. The orientation of the cross firing from chains changes every shot. Interesting.
Opened TH-cam at the perfect time
Love your stuff bro
Making this comment before watching the video so i might be repeating previously stated thoughts, but while constricting chains are good, they are not fun. It makes the game less about strategy and more about seeing big numbers, which while big numbers are fun, feeling so limited isn't.
The minotaur fight seems unchanged
if you would have found the Beleaguered Boots you could get above 100 Ballusion, the cap is then 300 i once had with the right build it was hilarious.
shout out to editor man for the action replay
It's unfortunate that the series won't last long, at the higher crucibles there's no fun builds, you have to tryhard to win.
Wait doesn't that mean the confusion mask and the chains combo really well? Essentially partially cancelling each other out and just leaving their boons?
EDIT: Oh you got both, nice~!
Just so you know
There is a relic shoe relic that make you can go to 999 ballution
Now I wonder what the new highest Multiball level is
is constricting chains still bugged where you can aim it because one of the directions is where your mouse is pointing whenever the shot begins
But bats aren’t actually blind, they have better sight than us lol
I still don't love Constricting Chains. I feel like most of what makes Peglin fun and unique as a roguelike deckbuilder is the skill expression in terms of your aiming, which Constricting Chains gets rid of almost entirely. Since it fires in the opposite direction now, there are literally only two choices for where to shoot. I think it would be a lot better while still retaining the spirit of the relic if each "direction" you could aim was actually a small arc rather than just one angle, maybe like 22.5 degrees. You could mess with the numbers, but that way it would still heavily restrict your shots (only a quarter of the circle would be available), while encouraging creative shots rather than just guesswork. It would definitely make Constricting Chains much less annoying to use, especially for navigation, and I still don't think it would be unbalanced because it's honestly still quite weak.
What sound does a dog make?
Tyler: 22:06
10:37 It has been curved though only slightly before, now it is very curved
Hey Tyler, any chance you'll go back to Bloons soon?
...
No, not BTD6. There's a new Bloons game that's a strategy card game, kind of like Slay the Spire (as a blanket-cover comparison).
Might be more up your alley.
Imagine if u didnt pick the corn, u got matryorbshka and matryoshka shell, every four shots if it was with a matryorbshka would be 64 balls
37:53 oh you might just find a relic at some point...
Love your content Tyler!
has there been a "do it for the vine" joke made yet?
Bro is pegging me every day its so good keep going tyler
I'm starting to think there's too many orbs or relics with multiball now, it appears every run or so, I don't think multiball is a bad thing I just wish there was more creativity.
I managed to get here when it says No views wow
22:23 was that a BTD reference?
İ from Turkey btw
you had 3 years to learn over time
You had prime rod of frost during the final fight you shoulda just shot eterball ahhhhhhh
But Bats arent even blind, and they dont have that bad vision
23:53 Not possible. They are individually exclusive to each class.
So sad...
Hello Mr.Tyler
0:43 "you can't come IN to a roguelike" tyler, circa 2024
416 views in 3 mins? Wow that says something
No, no they are not.
So one time I was on 1 hp and I had super boots I was able to heal to half
nice