See that's exactly what I loved about owning my GTO. Aside from the trunk you can almost call it practical. Mileage wasn't terrible. Didn't turn many cops heads. And the one's it did always respected it enough to give me a break. But the best part was not seeing another one every 5 minutes. And the rare time you did see another one, there was an instant feeling of gratification. That point, or wave, because you know they're in love just as much as you are. I miss my Goat...
@@dr.lyleevans6915 manual was able to get 28 hwy on these gtos so I believe that with the corvette. Auto was 22 but I think that was due to the gearing. My 05 auto would go into 4th at 35 mph lol
The GTO was a LS2/T56 & IRS in a plain wrapper for $30k .When I drove it, I had to have it. It's a very solid, quiet car. No one notices it. Cops don't see it either. 500hp were just a cam & a set of heads away (and a few other bolt ons & tuning). I added a stronger clutch & it has given me 30k trouble free miles. It's also very comfortable inside, it loves long trips. I have 2 other newer & faster GM's, but my GTO gets the most use. It's a unique car & I like it a lot.
The most underrated car and i love that about it. What you dont get from the tests is that the car is faster then the numbers they give you. It just takes some time to get the launch right. Love my GTO from day one and mine is about 5 years old now. What a great car.
Had my 06 Brazen Orange for 9 years now. Not my dd so it's still fun to drive everytime I take it out. The power is relentless and with a few suspension upgrades it's a whole different car! I love it, will never sale
Thank you for this info. My BOM is stock and I have put 2200 miles on it in all the years I've had it. I wondered what suspension upgrades to do. This will help.
@@harrishustlenow I would say my 06 6speed walked away from an auto time after time but it was a buddy's 04. Personally I don't care how fast the auto is, The manuals are just fun. Even my 21 kia daily is a manual
@@Matp345 sorry to break it to you, they were lazy prior to 2000s. You can easily find alot of used sports cars with autos than you'll ever find manuals. I remember when my dad switched from manual trucks and autos. America was majority of lazy drivers since the 80s
This isn't a Pontiac mate, this is a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia (which there for not a real true Pontiac unlike the real GTOs from the 1960s).
Just for the record... I fucking LOVE my GTO! It looks tame, but it's more luxurious than a pony car. Nicer seats, nicer gauges, better suspension for the road, MORE HP @ 400. Its a really nice car.
Good luck getting parts for it. The "auld" one is very rare anymore. Lots of inexperienced drivers got their mitts on them as prices went down. 400 hp & 400 torque+inexperience+alcohol (sometimes)= GTO/Monaro power pole wrappers and labels. Parts are already scarce and due to become scarcer (ie: more expensive). A minor accident now totals the car. Junk or scrapped vehicles are scrounged for worn out and abused parts at top dollar prices (buy these cracked, rain soaked, leather seats please, only $500 each). Now as repair prices soar, we realize it truly was an import after-all and like a VW or BMW, it will eat you alive in imported parts and long lead times should you decide to continue using it as a daily after parts start to wear out.
best comment. I'm cross shopping this with an e46 m3 (more power, less maintenance, but worse handling) but forgot about the parts availability issue. Compared to a used M car though the parts are probably not as expensive.
Engine parts are super easy to find, though. Body parts will be the tough part. Chassis parts aren't so bad; I can have most of them ordered in from local parts stores, they just don't stock them in the stores, which is reasonable.
Owned 3 of them. It's like a black belt who wears a suit and tie. A sophisticated bad-ass. So you can listen to this old dude tell you about a car who doesn't have one in his garage, and most likely was a teenager when the original came out. Or, you can listen to someone who has owned one for over 6 years, it's a fantastic vehicle. Only needed exhaust and intake on each of the ones I owned, and that's it. It starts conversations everywhere, and people always love seeing one. It's quiet on the inside, fun to drive and very fast. I will soon buy my last one (maybe), and use it for the post-apocalypse zombie hordes that I will inevitably have to outrun. It's weight will prevent the car from being flipped over by the zombies while I am napping, and it's humble exterior will blend in with the sea of abandoned sunfires and cavaliers where I will be parked. It's common sense.
Martin Huang mine needed a water pump when I bought it at 85k but I'm over 100k now no issues. Breaks and oil is all this thing has needed. I drive about an hour and a half in it every day.
I see from the video that traction was limited, hence the 13.5 sec 1/4 mile. But it ran 108 mph which is very respectable! With some wider street tires, high 12's shouldn't be a problem at all. Man, I've been watching MotorWeek since I was about five years old. I'm almost 30 now & their still testing new cars/trucks! I love this show & I hope it keeps going for many years to come :) Thanks for the video, I've been looking for this test of the LS2 GTO because I missed it when it aired.
The rear tires have some trouble grabbing the road even with upgraded tires, but some rear suspension upgrades eliminate the shudder that really holds it back.
Wider street tires are a bit of a challenge. They did not leave enough room in those wheel wells for naughty folk like us to just slap on a set of 275 drag radials. In order to get more rubber under one, you are going to need wheels, and probably going to have to roll or cut the fender lips.
These cars are so under-rated. Bought my 06 pbm GTO with 34k on it and I've never had more fun in a car. You don't see too many on the road these days yet it's been reliable (after some modest suspension work)
It would be real nice to bring back Pontiac as a low volume performance oriented division and pair it up with Buick and GMC dealerships. Keep Pontiac strictly as a performance/luxury car! No trucks, suvs or vans. When you think Pontiac, you should Invision High performance.
I bought my 06 6 speed Gto for 3k with a blown transmission in washington, i drove from cali to go get it. Rented a uhaul and towed it back to cali and put in a brand new t56 - magnum.
Just needed a different name and people would have loved it. Shows the power of marketing. I owned an '06 manual and it was a fantastic car. Could light the tires on the on ramp, great for long cruises (would see 25-27 mpg with full exhaust) and the at never looked like it was trying too hard. Classy and fast. I even ran a 12.7 at the track on the stock tires with just headers and drag bags in the rear springs to deal with the wheel hop.
Exactly, it is a sleeper. There is no mistake mine is a V8. I have JBA headers, mids and Pypebomb axle backs. Loud deep rumbling. Has some sweet popping when it downshifts.
i love my 2005 gto. put longtubes on it last year with a full exhuast. my cam kit just came in the mail this week. im super excited to get it installed
Perfect everyday car. Fast, comfortable, doesn't draw too much attention but commands respect. Also, I know for a fact it does not take 5.1 seconds for it to reach 60, but that was with a manual transmission. The autos obviously do it faster.
No, the autos are 10000% slower lmao. 5.1 might be an automatic 04 but the m604 is 4.8-4.9. The ls2 05/06 manual m6 is 4.5-4.6 and the auto ls2 6.0 is about 4.9
I’ll let you know after I put this driver side tie rod on when I post it. I’ll do 4.6 I think in mine and it’s bone stock. I’ve done 4.5 once on brand new tires and brand new ish clutch. My clutch is over 5 years old and I’ve been doing a shit ton of suspension work to it up front and the rear. I’ll tag you in it !
@@YoungManDub actually i have shorty headers now that might be why the 4.5/4.6 and I’ve shaved a few lbs off mine. Bone stock the 04m6 is 100000% under 5 seconds.
When the screen went tumbling my stomach dropped.. thought they rolled it haha I love my Goat wouldn't change it for the world I get a lot of stares and questions (mostly from idiots who thing 6.0 is 6 cylinders) but oh well wolf in sheeps clothes
The answer to that is, "Yup...it's a not even a *big* V6. Say....wanna' race? Maybe put a few bucks on it......just to make it interesting, you understand...."
I'm a Ford guy but this GTO deserved the name and alot more respect than it got. the first gto's were nothing more than a performance package on the tempest.
I had a 06 GTO with the 6.0 and 6 speed. It was a heavy car but it drove great and pulled like a monster on the highway. I got hit by a drunk driver and it was totalled. Got an 07 Monte Carlo SS next and it was an absolute piece of shit compared to the GTO.
They're related, but not the same car. The GTO started live as the VX (2000) Holden Commodore sedan. Initially released a s a show car, the Monaro was a huge hit, which gave Holden the confidence to build it. '02/03, and Pontiac wants to import it to become the GTO. The G8 is based on the next generation of Holden Commodore; new chassis, floorpan, body panels, interior. What you know as the Pontiac G8, its parent car is the VE Holden Commodore
2023 now. My 2006 GTO has 32K on it. Procharged pushing 675/653 in street trim and 812/783 with small pulley and meth injection. Leather seats, freezing cold A/C, rides great, eats Scat Packs and 'Stangs (if they don't hit a pole) easily, embarrasses Hellcats from a dig (not a roll in street trim) and gets more looks than any newer muscle that is 1000Lbs. heavier. Every cruise/show I'm in gets a crowd. Totally underrated car with leather interior, the best seats GM ever made and easily modded to stand up to muscle 18 years newer. BTW, CJColvin is a clueless dinosaur, ignore his uneducated BS.
I put on the larger pulley for daily driving. Makes about 9 lbs. of boost. Hwy MPG is around 22 in 6th gear, in town MPG not so good, probably around 15, because the car is so much fun and I have no discipline. :) @@LetTheWestBurn
This is one of my favorite cars brought to the U.S by an American company. I actually would have preferred that they didn't use the GTO name as it would have been better marketed as a "new" performance oriented coupe from GM. Well stated though, an adult oriented sports coupe that doesn't scream "look at me, I'm fast", like the Camaro's, Corvettes, Mustangs, and even those god awful looking WRX's. Yes, there is a place for those types of cars but I REALLY like the GTO for what it is
Friend had two of these both manual, 04,06 4 was stock, 6 had many mods from full headers exhaust Cai bigger tb , lsx intake head work cam tune suspension work, was a complete beast drove excellent interior was absolutely awesome and comfortable , as always they kill a design that is still great to work on. He now has a g8 manual last year for Pontiac in sun set orange metallic definetly not sell that one
Monaro. Built in Australia by Holden. Unfortunately Holden's parent company General Motors (U.S) closed Holden in 2019 so just like Ford Australia we no longer build cars in Australia. They shut the doors after 72 years.
Bring this car STOCK with an automatic transmission to a fully prepped drag strip , drag radials, perfect track temp, perfect weather conditions and this car is capable of 4.7 0-60 and 13.3 1/4 mile GAURANTEED once you get enough passes.
Ive owned a barbados blue 04 for 2 years now and the car is amazing to drive. I like to floor it in first all the way up to 5,000 across an intersection when it turns green.body styling in this car is amazing. it is very calm to the eye, rather than a corvette or camaro. Looking to upgrade to a C6 Corvette personally now though,
That's crazy powerful!!! The appearance is ok, but the power holy crap!!! Ima make sure I don't fuck with one even though I have my 2014 5.0 lol GTOs aren't a joke lol
Remember being on a Pontiac lot when this car was first delivered, I told the salesman that "I'll give this car 5 years then it will be gone" do to the fact it had a $30,000 base price. He said to me "no way this car is here to stay." I wonder if he ever remembered that convorsation when 06 came around.
JetNinjaMonkey it wouldnt stay because of a 30,000 base sticker price he says... now what would that have to do with anything?? when 03 cobras based at 34,000 and m3 s much higher. its now 2018 and both those cars still in production the "the prophet who pats his own back while wrong" lol
Nothing that can't be fixed by using Holden/HSV body panels Holden Special vehicles version of the Monaro has a much more aggressive body kit, and it all bolts on without any cutting or shaping necessary. You can blame Pontiac for the front and rear styling, not Holden. All of these GTOs came from Australian factories
Looks pretty handsome in Quicksilver Metallic but the wheels that came out in '06 look better. I don't care what the Goat loyalists say, this car looks great and the engine speaks for itself.
@JaSt321 Yes and no, the chassis is tuned by the Australians but if you dig deeply enough it's a modified Opel Omega B chassis. The Monaro/GTO/VXR is a brainchild of a global market, essentially it's like every other car made in the world these days. The only difference is that unlike most cars built today it's awesome enough that everyone wants to lay claim to it's creation.
its is a muscle car by definition, large displacement engine, mid size car, long hood short deck two door design= muscle car. it's does not matter that a german designed the chassis or if Australia really contributed anything to this program. all that matters is its a 4.00 bore small block pontiac gto get over it.
Don't know where Germany comes into it.Germany has nothing to do with this car. The whole car is from Australia.It was here in Australia before anywhere else..So how about "you" get over it!The engine & gearbox is American though.Read wikipedia (Holden Monaro) Idiot... We Aussies can do some things right...Just appreciate it man! GM is all over the world...or was...
Corpse711- The gto comes from the Opel Omega sedan platform. It's basically an Opel Omega coupe. Technically it is a German design at its roots. Aaron Monke knows his cars.
@@MyAb111 Well 100% of youtube videos about this car all mention it is imported from Australia and it is The Australian Holden Monaro. In the uk Its called the Vauxhall Monaro.Germany didn't start Making the Holden Commodore till 2018. Germany has nothing to do with the GTO or Monaro. Check it out on Wikipedia. Holden Monaro-Australian designed car. Last one was made in around 2004-2006. Germany is not mentioned anywhere. I'm afraid Aaron Monke doesn't know what hes talking about..Sorry mate! Please dont say any more stupid crap until you read wikipedia (Holden Monaro) man!!
Poor OP got whooshed, I've owned my 06 model for 2 years, was my dream car as my Pops had a 67. These cars represent the same culture and spirit. Still crushes RTs and GT ponies. Fantastic Machine
"based on the holden monaro?" mate it IS a monaro with different front plastic and the steering wheel on the other side. Australia has been building some of the damn finest RWD muscle cars for 40 years and the world is finding out. Clarkson and Hammond both SHIT themselves when they took these for a drive. American inspired, Aussie built.
If they really wanted the later GTO to be as loud as its predecessor, they should have asked Holden for permission to use HSV parts. Holden Special Vehicles are to Holden what Shelby is to Ford. The HSV GTO coupe had a very loud body kit, Brembo brakes, upgraded suspension, and in some rare cases, all wheel drive. If asked to do it, they would have been happy to do so. Instead, Pontiac took the lazy option and just changed the front and rear styling
i just saw 06 GTO in a GM dealership 2 days ago and out of the corvette, camaros and others new type of GM cars in that dealer the GTO didnt even last 2 days and someone bought the GTO. what im trying to say the GTO are getting hard to find people :) oh and the other day a cop said nice badass car you got there :D
GET ONE! i had been wanting one since i was about 9 when i saw them on tv, 3 weeks ago i finally got one and im extremely happy with it! great touring car, fast, and fun car
I love my 05 GTO. I always get thumbs up when people see me get on it. Nothing like shifting to 2nd in this car....large amounts of torque and then chirping 3rd.....lol
@ChallengerGuy22 the 05-06 brake rotors are actually 12.6 inches up front (reviewer was wrong) and are the same PBR calipers that are on the 05 LS2 vette. as well as the pads between the vette and GTO are identical.
I love mine. All stock minus an intake and in the dark Midnight Blue color, doesn't draw a lot of attention while getting on it ;) if I could do it all again I'd buy a 6 speed, but I got mine WAY cheaper cuz it's an auto.
Holden wasn't the first car company to take the best components available and build a masterpiece. I'm not certain who was but a good example that predates 1978 is the 1966 Shelby Cobra. I'm not discrediting Holden sir, in fact I'm complementing their work. They put together a fantastic vehicle using the best GM had to offer globally, that's something all GM guys should be proud of.
Not to mention, a Maserati is as temperamental as a Ferrari. If you don't get it tuned every three months, it will start to play up. Servicing something like that would cost more than two sets of tyres for your GTO. The GTO on the other hand is generally content with being serviced about once a year if the miles are fairly average
Those brakes still sound small but its a good performer if they had just called it a G8 coupe i think there would have been less complaints about the looks.
DaltonThomas If that awful A4 did a 4.6, I expect the M6 to time around 4.2-4.3 (that seems a little fast for this though; 4.6 is probably correct for the M6, 5.0 A4)
@ChallengerGuy22 Mach1 has an older gen dual piston PBR caliper. the C6/05 GTO PBR caliper are newer design and bigger. larger rotors mostly help with fade not stopping distance.
I want this car! I have a 3.4 L V6 Grand Am, and i was looking into mustangs. But for a bigger corvette engine and a decent price, im going with the gto. Slap on some black rims on a black gto and you're all set
@mustangdocter no... its a australian holden manaro... The vaxhall manaro is imported to europe from ausie. They all use the LS line of engines (in basically corvette spec). Those are the facts.
You are correct the Pontiac GTO is a Holden Monaro Badge swapping and rightfully Australians are proud when we see Holdens sold and rebadged in the US .Its ironic that some people from the most patriotic nation in the world (The US)slam aussies for being proud and patriotic about something GM imported to the US from Australia .Australians should be proud but many are angry that GM saw fit to close down Holdens operations completely and did not even give Australia the chance to keep the Holden name.Judging by the comments on youtube in regard to th G8,GTO,and the Chevy SS they were well received in the US and many Americans are proud of their Australian heritage but one wonders that had GM done a little more to promote these cars that just maybe Holden could still be operating and producing more instead of GM being greedy and taking Australian tax payers for a ride.
I have a 2005 GTO with 81k miles, in mint condition. I modified the goat with, Kook headers, magnaflow exhaust, monster clutch stage 3, GMM shifter, Motive gears 3:90;1 ratio, and Mishimoto radiator. The goat is a beast!! I haven't tuned it or had it dyno but I'm sure its over 460 RWHP...
+Jeanine Rollins that may be true, that's why my gto is now in the shop getting a cam package and head work plus tune. So I'll let you know the dyno numbers as soon as it's done.
In order to hit 460 at the wheels you will need about 560 or so give or take to hit that number. I have a 05 Yellow Jacket M6. one of 447 made .Love my car. Kooks Lt, Spintech, Tick cam package, Fast 92 etc being done as I type. Hoping to hit at least 435 at the wheels.
@ForgeCafeVideos lol, well seeing as I work for GM and the fact that I actually leased one for 2 years so, i do know what i'm talking about. The GTO was made in south Australia at our plant in Elizabeth. All we did to import our cars was switch the dash, the handbrake and the front grille. It is an australian car mate. Just let it go...you're wrong.
damn nice ill check them out all i have is a high speed camera so no vids yet but the vette was my bros youtube just wont let me change my name but i gotta 96 ws6 pretty much full bolt-on car and my last slip was a 12.7 but thats the most im gonna get out of it i dont think i could get the conditions or luck i had haha but ya love the mach dude always have just glad i can actually talk to a ford guy without bein hated on lol
ive seen much better 0 to 60 times on the cars stock as well as 1.4 mile times in the low low 13's and high 12's. tracition of the stock tire is a problem...pick up some exhaust intake headers and a chip and youll be in the 12's add a cam and ive seen ppl hit almost mid 12;s that way.
I had an 06 and frankly it was a great car, but I am tall guy @ 5'10" so the roofline obscures my outward vision which for makes slightly un- nerving so I sold it and got a 2010 GT 500
Those BS Goodrich tires did it's out of the box performance numbers no favors. You put some decent summer sport tires on there and times drop considerably.
@CCMedic09 I agree, I'm looking at one myself. I drove one a couple of days ago and it was a surprise and a disapointment. surprise because it was so damn smooth and a great drive. the disapointment is that it was in an accident and had to much cosmetic work to be done for the price. but I still have high hopes it's a great alternative ( and cheaper ) then a 928 in terms of Rarity, price and running costs.
The new GTO may have sold better if it was re-badged as the New 2004 Grand Prix GTP. I myself love the restyled 04-08 Grand Prix but I know a lot of die hard GTP fans like the 97-03 body-style better. If you park the 03 GTP coupe and the 04 GTO side by side there's a striking resemblance between the two cars, almost as though the GTO really should have been the next generation Grand Prix GTP.
Yes it's built in Australia but it's American muscle under the hood. I love my 05 GTO. It's personal luxury car. Yes it turns heads. Also got the original 64. Biggest difference is new one can actually stop it self. Old one you better had a place to go cause it couldn't stop worth a crap.
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See that's exactly what I loved about owning my GTO. Aside from the trunk you can almost call it practical. Mileage wasn't terrible. Didn't turn many cops heads. And the one's it did always respected it enough to give me a break. But the best part was not seeing another one every 5 minutes. And the rare time you did see another one, there was an instant feeling of gratification. That point, or wave, because you know they're in love just as much as you are. I miss my Goat...
RedShiftRider what kind of MPG did you see on the highway? Or city
RedShiftRider in in tgyy
Can’t speak for GTO’s, but I’ve had a few LS Corvettes. With the manual, you can get 30+ mpg
@@dr.lyleevans6915 manual was able to get 28 hwy on these gtos so I believe that with the corvette. Auto was 22 but I think that was due to the gearing. My 05 auto would go into 4th at 35 mph lol
Driving across country from WA to KY I averaged 26, which is better than my 19 SS
The GTO was a LS2/T56 & IRS in a plain wrapper for $30k .When I drove it, I had to have it. It's a very solid, quiet car. No one notices it. Cops don't see it either. 500hp were just a cam & a set of heads away (and a few other bolt ons & tuning). I added a stronger clutch & it has given me 30k trouble free miles. It's also very comfortable inside, it loves long trips. I have 2 other newer & faster GM's, but my GTO gets the most use. It's a unique car & I like it a lot.
Did u end up selling the GTO?
What were your 2 other faster GMs? Have to imagine either/both camaro and corvette.
@@peterseinfeld I'll never sell it. It has 44k miles on it.
@@MrUltraworld That’s what I’m talking about lol! Hell yea. I’m looking to get an 06 sometime soon . Always wanted one .
@@peterseinfeld 11yrs later, I still love it. Good luck finding one that's unmolested.
I don't care what anyone says, THAT, is a beautiful car. Must have!
knytrydr73
Well, did you get it?
@@miniena7774 - no :(
knytrydr73
That's a shame.
Its a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia is all I have to say.
@@CJColvin - Thank you Captain Obvious.
The most underrated car and i love that about it. What you dont get from the tests is that the car is faster then the numbers they give you. It just takes some time to get the launch right. Love my GTO from day one and mine is about 5 years old now. What a great car.
Glad to be the original owner of one of these beauties... Still going strong after all these years!!
This GTO is nice car
Had my 06 Brazen Orange for 9 years now. Not my dd so it's still fun to drive everytime I take it out. The power is relentless and with a few suspension upgrades it's a whole different car! I love it, will never sale
What kind of suspension upgrades did you do? I took my GTO to the track, this past weekend. It was terrible.
I did Lovells 20mm drop springs, Koni adjustable shocks & struts, endlinks, bushings, swaybar
Thank you for this info. My BOM is stock and I have put 2200 miles on it in all the years I've had it. I wondered what suspension upgrades to do. This will help.
"Four speed auto trans is available, IF you must" lol
Now people are lazy but bitch there's no manuals available anymore. They don't built them if no one buys them. Sad ain't it
@@Matp345 Right and what's crazy is though most folk don't know the autos in these cars are tuned and faster than manuals..
@@harrishustlenow I would say my 06 6speed walked away from an auto time after time but it was a buddy's 04. Personally I don't care how fast the auto is, The manuals are just fun. Even my 21 kia daily is a manual
@@Matp345 Yep I get it.. more fun... These cars are fun either way that's just me. Buddy of mine just recently picked up a kia Stinger
@@Matp345 sorry to break it to you, they were lazy prior to 2000s. You can easily find alot of used sports cars with autos than you'll ever find manuals.
I remember when my dad switched from manual trucks and autos. America was majority of lazy drivers since the 80s
GTO for life
Gto and Challenger are my favorite modern muscle cars.
Yes
Even though its a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia unlike the old school GTOs from the 1960s.
No, NWO 4 life
@@austinfrazier7325 Whats NWO?
God I LOVED when this car was around
It was my preferred car in Need For Speed Underground 2!
It was pretty much the worst of the high performance cars in that game. Even the fucking 240sx is cooler.
Amazingly, in 2020, I see a red GTO like this at the grocery store this evening. Man, I miss Pontiac, but I still see alot on the road.
This isn't a Pontiac mate, this is a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia (which there for not a real true Pontiac unlike the real GTOs from the 1960s).
Just for the record... I fucking LOVE my GTO! It looks tame, but it's more luxurious than a pony car. Nicer seats, nicer gauges, better suspension for the road, MORE HP @ 400. Its a really nice car.
Buy the new one, they sold an updated version in Australia. It's fucking boss, you could ship one to the USA.
That's what it is in oz are luxury sports coupe
Good luck getting parts for it. The "auld" one is very rare anymore. Lots of inexperienced drivers got their mitts on them as prices went down. 400 hp & 400 torque+inexperience+alcohol (sometimes)= GTO/Monaro power pole wrappers and labels. Parts are already scarce and due to become scarcer (ie: more expensive). A minor accident now totals the car. Junk or scrapped vehicles are scrounged for worn out and abused parts at top dollar prices (buy these cracked, rain soaked, leather seats please, only $500 each). Now as repair prices soar, we realize it truly was an import after-all and like a VW or BMW, it will eat you alive in imported parts and long lead times should you decide to continue using it as a daily after parts start to wear out.
best comment. I'm cross shopping this with an e46 m3 (more power, less maintenance, but worse handling) but forgot about the parts availability issue. Compared to a used M car though the parts are probably not as expensive.
Engine parts are super easy to find, though. Body parts will be the tough part. Chassis parts aren't so bad; I can have most of them ordered in from local parts stores, they just don't stock them in the stores, which is reasonable.
I love mine. 450 horses with exhaust and intake and suspension mods. Perfect daily driver
Nice! The stock exhaust is a bit restrictive for that kind of engine. One day I will put some headers on mine.
Is it 6 speed? Or auto?
What air intake setup do you have? Did you need to have the computer reprogrammed?
What suspension are you running? Or...perhaps *were* you running, given that's in been a few years....
Owned 3 of them. It's like a black belt who wears a suit and tie. A sophisticated bad-ass. So you can listen to this old dude tell you about a car who doesn't have one in his garage, and most likely was a teenager when the original came out. Or, you can listen to someone who has owned one for over 6 years, it's a fantastic vehicle. Only needed exhaust and intake on each of the ones I owned, and that's it. It starts conversations everywhere, and people always love seeing one. It's quiet on the inside, fun to drive and very fast. I will soon buy my last one (maybe), and use it for the post-apocalypse zombie hordes that I will inevitably have to outrun. It's weight will prevent the car from being flipped over by the zombies while I am napping, and it's humble exterior will blend in with the sea of abandoned sunfires and cavaliers where I will be parked. It's common sense.
Haha love this
I always think of the cavalier when I see one of these, boy do cavaliers suck ass lol
How is the reliability of GTO?
Martin Huang Excellent, I owned one for quite a while and it was the best car I've ever owned.
Martin Huang mine needed a water pump when I bought it at 85k but I'm over 100k now no issues. Breaks and oil is all this thing has needed. I drive about an hour and a half in it every day.
Another collectable car, kept stock.
I see from the video that traction was limited, hence the 13.5 sec 1/4 mile. But it ran 108 mph which is very respectable!
With some wider street tires, high 12's shouldn't be a problem at all.
Man, I've been watching MotorWeek since I was about five years old. I'm almost 30 now & their still testing new cars/trucks! I love this show & I hope it keeps going for many years to come :)
Thanks for the video, I've been looking for this test of the LS2 GTO because I missed it when it aired.
The rear tires have some trouble grabbing the road even with upgraded tires, but some rear suspension upgrades eliminate the shudder that really holds it back.
Wider street tires are a bit of a challenge. They did not leave enough room in those wheel wells for naughty folk like us to just slap on a set of 275 drag radials. In order to get more rubber under one, you are going to need wheels, and probably going to have to roll or cut the fender lips.
These cars are so under-rated. Bought my 06 pbm GTO with 34k on it and I've never had more fun in a car. You don't see too many on the road these days yet it's been reliable (after some modest suspension work)
he referenced the Holden monaro, watch a video before you comment on it
It would be real nice to bring back Pontiac as a low volume performance oriented division and pair it up with Buick and GMC dealerships. Keep Pontiac strictly as a performance/luxury car! No trucks, suvs or vans. When you think Pontiac, you should Invision High performance.
if you find a 05 GTO for 7600 and its running.... you buy it instantly. they go for 14-16k
wish i could find a nice one for 14 lol
@@KappaCow haha got a 06 M6 with 102k on it for 8500.
@@KappaCow shop for them in December that's when I bought mine. Bought it last year
I bought my 06 6 speed Gto for 3k with a blown transmission in washington, i drove from cali to go get it. Rented a uhaul and towed it back to cali and put in a brand new t56 - magnum.
Got my 05 gto with 123000 on it for $5000
Just needed a different name and people would have loved it. Shows the power of marketing. I owned an '06 manual and it was a fantastic car. Could light the tires on the on ramp, great for long cruises (would see 25-27 mpg with full exhaust) and the at never looked like it was trying too hard. Classy and fast. I even ran a 12.7 at the track on the stock tires with just headers and drag bags in the rear springs to deal with the wheel hop.
You can always count on MW to make a good review. I love my 2005 GOAT!
Much rather have your car then what’s been pushed out after Pontiac shut its doors.
Love this car!! Nice tastes bro in 2021
Exactly, it is a sleeper. There is no mistake mine is a V8. I have JBA headers, mids and Pypebomb axle backs. Loud deep rumbling. Has some sweet popping when it downshifts.
i love my 2005 gto. put longtubes on it last year with a full exhuast. my cam kit just came in the mail this week. im super excited to get it installed
my school janitor has one of these. I stare at it every time
I own a 2006 Brazen Orange GTO. A pleasure to drive, and always puts a smile on my face :)
Perfect everyday car. Fast, comfortable, doesn't draw too much attention but commands respect. Also, I know for a fact it does not take 5.1 seconds for it to reach 60, but that was with a manual transmission. The autos obviously do it faster.
No, the autos are 10000% slower lmao. 5.1 might be an automatic 04 but the m604 is 4.8-4.9. The ls2 05/06 manual m6 is 4.5-4.6 and the auto ls2 6.0 is about 4.9
@@permabulk1454 prove it
@@YoungManDub gladly.
I’ll let you know after I put this driver side tie rod on when I post it. I’ll do 4.6 I think in mine and it’s bone stock. I’ve done 4.5 once on brand new tires and brand new ish clutch. My clutch is over 5 years old and I’ve been doing a shit ton of suspension work to it up front and the rear. I’ll tag you in it !
@@YoungManDub actually i have shorty headers now that might be why the 4.5/4.6 and I’ve shaved a few lbs off mine. Bone stock the 04m6 is 100000% under 5 seconds.
i regret selling mine
When the screen went tumbling my stomach dropped.. thought they rolled it haha I love my Goat wouldn't change it for the world I get a lot of stares and questions (mostly from idiots who thing 6.0 is 6 cylinders) but oh well wolf in sheeps clothes
Kinda half tempted to buy the monaros v8 emblem and swap badges.
My heart dropped when I seen that
The answer to that is, "Yup...it's a not even a *big* V6. Say....wanna' race? Maybe put a few bucks on it......just to make it interesting, you understand...."
Same! Why did they do that!?
I'm going back to watch that on shrooms at some point
I'm a Ford guy but this GTO deserved the name and alot more respect than it got. the first gto's were nothing more than a performance package on the tempest.
At least they looked a million times better than the rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia mate.
@@CJColvin that's your opinion pal,like assholes every body has one.
I had a 06 GTO with the 6.0 and 6 speed. It was a heavy car but it drove great and pulled like a monster on the highway. I got hit by a drunk driver and it was totalled. Got an 07 Monte Carlo SS next and it was an absolute piece of shit compared to the GTO.
I hope the worst for the dude that smacked you out on the road
They're related, but not the same car. The GTO started live as the VX (2000) Holden Commodore sedan. Initially released a s a show car, the Monaro was a huge hit, which gave Holden the confidence to build it. '02/03, and Pontiac wants to import it to become the GTO. The G8 is based on the next generation of Holden Commodore; new chassis, floorpan, body panels, interior. What you know as the Pontiac G8, its parent car is the VE Holden Commodore
2023 now. My 2006 GTO has 32K on it. Procharged pushing 675/653 in street trim and 812/783 with small pulley and meth injection. Leather seats, freezing cold A/C, rides great, eats Scat Packs and 'Stangs (if they don't hit a pole) easily, embarrasses Hellcats from a dig (not a roll in street trim) and gets more looks than any newer muscle that is 1000Lbs. heavier. Every cruise/show I'm in gets a crowd. Totally underrated car with leather interior, the best seats GM ever made and easily modded to stand up to muscle 18 years newer. BTW, CJColvin is a clueless dinosaur, ignore his uneducated BS.
If they're so good then why it didn't sell very well and why they didn't save Pontiac as well?
I agree I have a supercharged lingenfelter revenge what a great car😊
Whats your MPG while driving regular with the S/C added?
I put on the larger pulley for daily driving. Makes about 9 lbs. of boost. Hwy MPG is around 22 in 6th gear, in town MPG not so good, probably around 15, because the car is so much fun and I have no discipline. :) @@LetTheWestBurn
@@martyfarrell9459 thats impressive. This is my dream Car/Setup GTO with a Procharger
This is one of my favorite cars brought to the U.S by an American company. I actually would have preferred that they didn't use the GTO name as it would have been better marketed as a "new" performance oriented coupe from GM. Well stated though, an adult oriented sports coupe that doesn't scream "look at me, I'm fast", like the Camaro's, Corvettes, Mustangs, and even those god awful looking WRX's. Yes, there is a place for those types of cars but I REALLY like the GTO for what it is
The only problem is that its nothing but a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia unlike the old school GTOs from the 1960s.
i love my 06 gto
Friend had two of these both manual, 04,06 4 was stock, 6 had many mods from full headers exhaust Cai bigger tb , lsx intake head work cam tune suspension work, was a complete beast drove excellent interior was absolutely awesome and comfortable , as always they kill a design that is still great to work on. He now has a g8 manual last year for Pontiac in sun set orange metallic definetly not sell that one
There isn't anything I don't like about this car. Sometimes less is more, and this is a glorious example of that.
Favorite video on TH-cam! im getting a 06 Gto! im so pumped has only 40 thousand miles!
How is it treating you? I'm enjoying (and still upgrading) mine!
Monaro. Built in Australia by Holden. Unfortunately Holden's parent company General Motors (U.S) closed Holden in 2019 so just like Ford Australia we no longer build cars in Australia. They shut the doors after 72 years.
Did the GTO spit fire at 2:12
Bring this car STOCK with an automatic transmission to a fully prepped drag strip , drag radials, perfect track temp, perfect weather conditions and this car is capable of 4.7 0-60 and 13.3 1/4 mile GAURANTEED once you get enough passes.
Ive owned a barbados blue 04 for 2 years now and the car is amazing to drive. I like to floor it in first all the way up to 5,000 across an intersection when it turns green.body styling in this car is amazing. it is very calm to the eye, rather than a corvette or camaro. Looking to upgrade to a C6 Corvette personally now though,
That's crazy powerful!!! The appearance is ok, but the power holy crap!!! Ima make sure I don't fuck with one even though I have my 2014 5.0 lol GTOs aren't a joke lol
It will destroy your 5.0 sorry bud 😅
Remember being on a Pontiac lot when this car was first delivered, I told the salesman that "I'll give this car 5 years then it will be gone" do to the fact it had a $30,000 base price. He said to me "no way this car is here to stay." I wonder if he ever remembered that convorsation when 06 came around.
JetNinjaMonkey it wouldnt stay because of a 30,000 base sticker price he says... now what would that have to do with anything?? when 03 cobras based at 34,000 and m3 s much higher. its now 2018 and both those cars still in production the "the prophet who pats his own back while wrong" lol
i have an 05 GTO 6 SPEED MANUAL. 45,000 miles. Always turns head - never see any on the road which is great. stays locked up most of the time.
Any issue with getting replacement parts?
No@@mikeriv60
I love the flames on the 1-2 shift.
Nothing that can't be fixed by using Holden/HSV body panels Holden Special vehicles version of the Monaro has a much more aggressive body kit, and it all bolts on without any cutting or shaping necessary. You can blame Pontiac for the front and rear styling, not Holden. All of these GTOs came from Australian factories
Looks pretty handsome in Quicksilver Metallic but the wheels that came out in '06 look better. I don't care what the Goat loyalists say, this car looks great and the engine speaks for itself.
I have that spec w/ black int. 18in rims. 4speed. It has that GTO spirit
@JaSt321 Yes and no, the chassis is tuned by the Australians but if you dig deeply enough it's a modified Opel Omega B chassis. The Monaro/GTO/VXR is a brainchild of a global market, essentially it's like every other car made in the world these days. The only difference is that unlike most cars built today it's awesome enough that everyone wants to lay claim to it's creation.
its is a muscle car by definition, large displacement engine, mid size car, long hood short deck two door design= muscle car. it's does not matter that a german designed the chassis or if Australia really contributed anything to this program. all that matters is its a 4.00 bore small block pontiac gto get over it.
Don't know where Germany comes into it.Germany has nothing to do with this car. The whole car is from Australia.It was here in Australia before anywhere else..So how about "you" get over it!The engine & gearbox is American though.Read wikipedia (Holden Monaro) Idiot... We Aussies can do some things right...Just appreciate it man! GM is all over the world...or was...
Corpse711- The gto comes from the Opel Omega sedan platform. It's basically an Opel Omega coupe. Technically it is a German design at its roots. Aaron Monke knows his cars.
@@MyAb111 Well 100% of youtube videos about this car all mention it is imported from Australia and it is The Australian Holden Monaro. In the uk Its called the Vauxhall Monaro.Germany didn't start Making the Holden Commodore till 2018. Germany has nothing to do with the GTO or Monaro. Check it out on Wikipedia. Holden Monaro-Australian designed car. Last one was made in around 2004-2006. Germany is not mentioned anywhere. I'm afraid Aaron Monke doesn't know what hes talking about..Sorry mate! Please dont say any more stupid crap until you read wikipedia (Holden Monaro) man!!
Poor OP got whooshed, I've owned my 06 model for 2 years, was my dream car as my Pops had a 67. These cars represent the same culture and spirit. Still crushes RTs and GT ponies. Fantastic Machine
@@MyAb111 Okay but that does not make this car German. It is American. (Well, Australian, but this is the American version)
I like how these cars were made six years ago, but they're still as fast or faster than the top cars coming out of Detroit these days!
"based on the holden monaro?" mate it IS a monaro with different front plastic and the steering wheel on the other side. Australia has been building some of the damn finest RWD muscle cars for 40 years and the world is finding out. Clarkson and Hammond both SHIT themselves when they took these for a drive. American inspired, Aussie built.
If they really wanted the later GTO to be as loud as its predecessor, they should have asked Holden for permission to use HSV parts. Holden Special Vehicles are to Holden what Shelby is to Ford. The HSV GTO coupe had a very loud body kit, Brembo brakes, upgraded suspension, and in some rare cases, all wheel drive. If asked to do it, they would have been happy to do so. Instead, Pontiac took the lazy option and just changed the front and rear styling
That's definitely a collectable car
i just saw 06 GTO in a GM dealership 2 days ago and out of the corvette, camaros and others new type of GM cars in that dealer the GTO didnt even last 2 days and someone bought the GTO. what im trying to say the GTO are getting hard to find people :) oh and the other day a cop said nice badass car you got there :D
Definitely my next car.
I'm. Thinking about getting a GTO
GET ONE! i had been wanting one since i was about 9 when i saw them on tv, 3 weeks ago i finally got one and im extremely happy with it! great touring car, fast, and fun car
I'm thinking about them beans
TheVintagetamiya Go for one
TheVintagetamiya I'm most likely gonna get one.
Do it. Love mine, had it for a year and have absolutely no regrets.
I just got one 2 days ago. It's pretty good.
😁
I love my 05 GTO. I always get thumbs up when people see me get on it. Nothing like shifting to 2nd in this car....large amounts of torque and then chirping 3rd.....lol
@ChallengerGuy22 the 05-06 brake rotors are actually 12.6 inches up front (reviewer was wrong) and are the same PBR calipers that are on the 05 LS2 vette. as well as the pads between the vette and GTO are identical.
"4-wheel drifting"? Isn't that called losing control?
***** no. If you meant for 4 wheels to loose traction and can keep it going where you want it to, it's still under control.
Not if you've got talent....
I love mine. All stock minus an intake and in the dark Midnight Blue color, doesn't draw a lot of attention while getting on it ;) if I could do it all again I'd buy a 6 speed, but I got mine WAY cheaper cuz it's an auto.
based_will how much for the automatic in 2017
Jd Texan I paid 11,500 from a dealer with 75k miles
Holden wasn't the first car company to take the best components available and build a masterpiece. I'm not certain who was but a good example that predates 1978 is the 1966 Shelby Cobra. I'm not discrediting Holden sir, in fact I'm complementing their work. They put together a fantastic vehicle using the best GM had to offer globally, that's something all GM guys should be proud of.
Holden: 1948 - 2017
RIP
doesn't matter if you like it or not it'll always be a Holden. it's Australian, taken to the US
So what's your point?
LOL the transition @ 1:33 looked like the car flipped from the corner of my eye. haha.
Not a fan of v8s in general or Pontiac quality but I really dug its sleekness. Found it refreshing that it was smaller and lower than the competition.
You mean American quality lol
@@coolmodee Not an American car.
The best cost-benefit on the NFS MW.
Not to mention, a Maserati is as temperamental as a Ferrari. If you don't get it tuned every three months, it will start to play up. Servicing something like that would cost more than two sets of tyres for your GTO. The GTO on the other hand is generally content with being serviced about once a year if the miles are fairly average
ive seen stock A4 GTOs doing 12.5s in the quarter miles... they will never give this car the specs it deserves... 0-60 is in the 4s as well
XxpLoSivE .- I have an 05 with 106k bone stock, it does 0-60 4.5 with an automatic
These guys doing the test probably don’t drive like we do Lol
I've got 4.7 from mine. I've seen numbers as low as 4.4 on forums.
A stock gto won't go 12s you noob
@@Brian-bv7ih I run 12.9s stock 06 m6
12.5 stock a4. no chance
Those brakes still sound small but its a good performer if they had just called it a G8 coupe i think there would have been less complaints about the looks.
I prefer the 2004 but this is by far the most underrated vehicle
I can not find your reviews on PONTIAC GRAND AM's from 1999-2005. In particular my 2000 GAGT.
13.5 in the quarter? My stock 2004 GTO consistently does 13.3's in the quarter.
They needed a driver mod.
Looks like they mapped out a quarter mile stretch on a road course, vs running on a strip with prep.
Their tests always suck. There's videos all over TH-cam of the stock '05-'06 running high 12s. The 0-60 time from GM (A4) is 4.6 seconds.
DaltonThomas If that awful A4 did a 4.6, I expect the M6 to time around 4.2-4.3 (that seems a little fast for this though; 4.6 is probably correct for the M6, 5.0 A4)
Damn the track chewed them tires up
@ChallengerGuy22 Mach1 has an older gen dual piston PBR caliper. the C6/05 GTO PBR caliper are newer design and bigger. larger rotors mostly help with fade not stopping distance.
Owned a 69 400 small block his an hers shifter was still in it long gone now
I want this car! I have a 3.4 L V6 Grand Am, and i was looking into mustangs. But for a bigger corvette engine and a decent price, im going with the gto. Slap on some black rims on a black gto and you're all set
Love motorweek
100% AGREE. They really dropped the ball on the GTO the fucking car looks like a cross between a cavalier,grand am, and the prix. brutal.
@mustangdocter no... its a australian holden manaro... The vaxhall manaro is imported to europe from ausie. They all use the LS line of engines (in basically corvette spec). Those are the facts.
lol i like how he says it is based on the Monaro. it is a Monaro built in Australia
You are correct the Pontiac GTO is a Holden Monaro Badge swapping and rightfully Australians are proud when we see Holdens sold and rebadged in the US .Its ironic that some people from the most patriotic nation in the world (The US)slam aussies for being proud and patriotic about something GM imported to the US from Australia .Australians should be proud but many are angry that GM saw fit to close down Holdens operations completely and did not even give Australia the chance to keep the Holden name.Judging by the comments on youtube in regard to th G8,GTO,and the Chevy SS they were well received in the US and many Americans are proud of their Australian heritage but one wonders that had GM done a little more to promote these cars that just maybe Holden could still be operating and producing more instead of GM being greedy and taking Australian tax payers for a ride.
the selling me one with 80,500 miles 2005 GTO for $7600 is that a good price?
If it hasn't been modded or rodded.
the actual numbers are 4.7 0-60 and 13.0 qtr mile
I have a 2005 GTO with 81k miles, in mint condition. I modified the goat with, Kook headers, magnaflow exhaust, monster clutch stage 3, GMM shifter, Motive gears 3:90;1 ratio, and Mishimoto radiator. The goat is a beast!! I haven't tuned it or had it dyno but I'm sure its over 460 RWHP...
Um nope not without a cam and head work. Not at the wheels.
+Jeanine Rollins that may be true, that's why my gto is now in the shop getting a cam package and head work plus tune. So I'll let you know the dyno numbers as soon as it's done.
In order to hit 460 at the wheels you will need about 560 or so give or take to hit that number. I have a 05 Yellow Jacket M6. one of 447 made .Love my car. Kooks Lt, Spintech, Tick cam package, Fast 92 etc being done as I type. Hoping to hit at least 435 at the wheels.
I ended up adding a driveshaft since the stock one is junk. Also some gauges. Put down 451 at the wheels.
Thats not mint hahahahha
Good sounding car, I love it
@ForgeCafeVideos lol, well seeing as I work for GM and the fact that I actually leased one for 2 years so, i do know what i'm talking about.
The GTO was made in south Australia at our plant in Elizabeth.
All we did to import our cars was switch the dash, the handbrake and the front grille.
It is an australian car mate. Just let it go...you're wrong.
damn nice ill check them out all i have is a high speed camera so no vids yet but the vette was my bros youtube just wont let me change my name but i gotta 96 ws6 pretty much full bolt-on car and my last slip was a 12.7 but thats the most im gonna get out of it i dont think i could get the conditions or luck i had haha but ya love the mach dude always have just glad i can actually talk to a ford guy without bein hated on lol
ive seen much better 0 to 60 times on the cars stock as well as 1.4 mile times in the low low 13's and high 12's. tracition of the stock tire is a problem...pick up some exhaust intake headers and a chip and youll be in the 12's add a cam and ive seen ppl hit almost mid 12;s that way.
I DO T CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK GTO IS THE BEST THING EVER AND IT IS A DAMN HEAD TURNER
I had an 06 and frankly it was a great car, but I am tall guy @ 5'10" so the roofline obscures my outward vision which for makes slightly un- nerving so I sold it and got a 2010 GT 500
LifesJoys 5"10 is short not tall... Mustang is way worse
I am 4 inches taller than you and I can not figure out what your talking about. The GTO has great visibility.
They struggled to get this car off the line but hey descent numbers for 2005 i think best these cars ran were 12.8-13.0 at the strip stock
Yes I recall a dude having one stock running a 12.9 on the show pass time on street tires.
Those BS Goodrich tires did it's out of the box performance numbers no favors. You put some decent summer sport tires on there and times drop considerably.
The gto times by Motorweek are
0-60 in 5.1 seconds
and 1/4 mile in 13.5
2:30 4 speed auto transmission is available
@CCMedic09 I agree, I'm looking at one myself. I drove one a couple of days ago and it was a surprise and a disapointment. surprise because it was so damn smooth and a great drive. the disapointment is that it was in an accident and had to much cosmetic work to be done for the price. but I still have high hopes it's a great alternative ( and cheaper ) then a 928 in terms of Rarity, price and running costs.
"AMERICAN MUSCLE" made in Australia
Still have mine! :)
Any issues with getting replacement parts ?
@mikeriv60 not yet. Maybe in the future for cosmetic parts, but not for the LS2 engine likely.
@@scottmorrison147
Sorry that's what I meant, more the exterior and interior parts.
Thanks
@mikeriv60 mine is still all original, but I am seeing after market parts availability, such as head lights, tail lights and side markers.
The new GTO may have sold better if it was re-badged as the New 2004 Grand Prix GTP. I myself love the restyled 04-08 Grand Prix but I know a lot of die hard GTP fans like the 97-03 body-style better. If you park the 03 GTP coupe and the 04 GTO side by side there's a striking resemblance between the two cars, almost as though the GTO really should have been the next generation Grand Prix GTP.
My 06 Gto has 218k miles, and i drive her hard.
Yes it's built in Australia but it's American muscle under the hood. I love my 05 GTO. It's personal luxury car. Yes it turns heads. Also got the original 64. Biggest difference is new one can actually stop it self. Old one you better had a place to go cause it couldn't stop worth a crap.
Have you heard of a restomod before mate.