R33 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec Review - Does the R33 Deserve The Hate?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Continuing my week exploring the legendary Skyline GT-R's history, I am driving this R33. Brought in at the last minute to replace a car which had to drop out, this wasn't quite 100% ready but I am still eternally grateful to owner James for bringing it out.
Of the three, it is the most modified and represents what many expect the Skyline to be - a tuner car. But, is it changed for the better?
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I've always thought the R33 was the best looking of them all. Looks so purposeful from the rear.. especially in white.
I prefer these to the R34, but obviously would take any...
It's the R32 for me ^
Agreed!
Today, we find a car surprisingly louder than Jay's shirt.
😂
I definitely prefer the looks of the R33 compared to the R32.
With regard to performance, totally apparent that the modifications do make a difference.
It was generally accepted that the 33 - with the longer wheelbase - had the straight line stability whilst being not so nimble around the corners...... this being based upon stock settings and zero modifications.
Anyway..... wtf would I know? lol. To get the true comparison...... all of the 32/33/34's would have to be driven as "fresh from the factory"..... which would be rather like asking me to fly to Jupiter 🤔😆.
Great review. Big smiles here 👍👍
i believe the R33 is the fastest of the bunch, and ironically the R34 is the slowest. The 32 was a pure drivers car for Grp A racing. The 33 was an attempt to improve it’s performance which ultimately resulted in the first production car to lap the nurburgring in under 8 mins. The 34 was designed to retain the performance of the 33 while being much more user friendly and easier to live with (which is why it’s the heaviest).
@@devandrasimanjuntak1646 the Nurburgring time is irrelevant as on so many circuits the BNR34 is proven to be the faster car and was even tested on its debut in 1999 on an autocross course against the BCNR33. It wasnt even a contest especially being a longer wheel base. The BNR34 is far from being the slowest of the GT-R generations. The slowest would be the KPGC110 as even the KPGC10 was faster. The BNR34 is not called a successor for no reason. Especially when it comes to the V-Spec II trim. With its added aero it is much faster than the BCNR33. The BNR34 has better gearing and a better transmission giving it the edge. The gearing on the BCNR33 is way too tall. Per the outcome below the smaller and more complex the circuit the slower it is than the BNR34. The Nurburgring is only a marketing point to sell more units and not a true test of superiority.
Tsukuba circuit, dry condition, 17 degrees, OEM spec tires, driver: Hiroshi Yokokawa
BNR34 1'05'32
BCNR33 1'08'04
Fuji Speedway, dry condition, 13 degrees, OEM spec tires, driver: Atsushi Samejima
BNR34 1'48'621
BCNR33 1'51'092
Suzuka Circuit fair condition, 19 degrees, OEM spec tires BNR34 tires unknown BCNR33, driver Tatsuya Hashimoto
BNR34: 2'20'783
BCNR33: 2'21'043
"Jayson's Nissan GTR R33" is the best one I've seen yet
HUGE respect to the outside camera guy who had to sprint ahead of the car to wait for you after each fly-by.
That was me
@@JayEmmOnCars TOTAL respect! How'd you do that? If you were driving the car at the same time? I've never seen that before. Next level amazing, mate. Keep up the superhero stuff. 🤜🙏
@@VectorOfKnowledge the owner is in the car, I'm on the side of the road. In fact I am almost never driving the car in drive by shots!
@@JayEmmOnCars "I am almost never driving the car in drive by shots!" Oh come off it, mate. Your false modesty is tastefully done and I respect that you do it, but sometimes it's a bit much. You know perfectly well that you were driving the car, and then you hopped out of it, filmed the car glide past, and then slid your way effortlessly back into it like a champ, all to bring us these awesome reviews. I know that you feel that you risk becoming like Hyacinth in "Keeping up Appearances" if you don't maintain the modesty, but it's okay to say you're awesome.
It’s grown on me a lot over the years. Actually and want one over a 32 or 34
Other way around for me. I liked it when I got into cars, but over the years i completely changed my mind.
@Paul Blackman man paul i couldnt agree with you more, these cars have become expensive to the point that they are no longer even worth buying over something newer and faster
Id disagree with paul, with a 90's motor like this, yes you may get more problems but of course modifed well, they can be quicker than the newer cars mentiond.
They feel more special being so rare these days. In my opinion look better and of course they are a much more raw mechanical experience.
And of course with a car like this you wont lose any money in depreciation like you would on a new car (you would have to be insane to buy a brand new car and take the depreciation hit imo) infact with a car like this it might even appreciate in price in your ownership.
Your comment has 33 likes so I’m going to leave it there.
I had wanted an R33 for years. Then finally got one and regretted it. Wasn't fun to drive, and wasn't quick by modern standards unless you spend thousands on it. Sounded nice, but in reality I found it about as fun to drive as I would have done driving a Mondeo. I eventually got shot of it and got a Z32 TT instead. Worlds apart, much more fun to drive.
"So, apart from the throttle, the steering and the brakes... It's fine!" 😂😂😂
😂 I’m the owner of the car a couple of days before the shoot the G sensor decided to stop working so the car weren’t perfect, I did not wanna let Jay down but could not get it fixed. Hence why I was so so paranoid about everything, I’m going to be getting car mapped after the new year and a few upgrades to the handling and then jay can make another video with the car 100% perfect
@@James__R33 yeah, I got that you got the car there despite the challenges. I just thought the way James said it was funny. Lovely car!! I'm Nissan fan so loving the series
This r33 may not be like the previous or the ones after but as a car at least I’m sure it’s a great obe to drive around I love 6 cylinder sounds 👍
Looking forward for more 90s' JDM cars and some rare forgotten cars like MG X-Power SVR ,...
That r33 looks perfect 👌
In 1997 when I was 8 years old my granddad purchased one of these cars brand new ! It was completely standard and when he sold it I remember seeing a tear in his eye not understanding why he was crying he had to sell the car because he was getting too old to drive it. Now if I had one and I had to sell it I would completely and utterly understand why he was so upset.
This is sad man 😔😔😔
@@shreddedlittle Yet not, as he had the amazing opportunity of owning a Legendary car from new for years... how special was that!
Fair play to him for not setting it in a garage and letting it go to someone that can use it. 👍
@@forresttm no I remember him taking me to school and picking me up from school and I remember all my friends saying wow ! And one of the best days at school was when he did a huge 11 ! I was the staff parking lot 😅
@@isoconfused8744 looking back on it yeah it was pretty special he gave me a diecast toy that he got from Nissan when he purchased the car and when he died I gave it back to him when on top of the coffin. Sunday but it's strange how watching some of these videos brings back memories
I think all 3 look great, this one in white w/ white TE37's looks especially AWESOME🔥🔥🔥
when I was a kid, I got ps1 from my grandpa, and the first game I've ever played on that ps1 was gran turismo 1 and this car is my first car on that game, and since then I'm always like R33 GTR more than R32 and R34
This might be controversial, but for me this is easily the best looking of the 3 and the 2nd best looking Skyline of them all. My profile picture makes my views on the best looking one pretty obvious! Sure it wasn't the game changer that the R32 was or the last of the great trilogy that the R34 was so it'll never have as much of a legendary status, but it's still a proper GT-R. Also this one sounds insane, bit too loud for my taste but it's a good sound.
Always loved these R33's.
Great video. Most coilovers on these are either too harsh (or too old and in need of refresh) for uk roads. It’s also common for spring rates to Be mismatched. And many also require insane speed and commitment to display the traits they are famous for which is a bit daft on public roads. But all generations can feel special even at low speeds if set up well, as the 32 demonstrated. Thanks for these videos all the cars look great.
That howl is majestic.
The double edged sword that is 90's JDM cars. The fervid, nostalgic fondness vs the lunacy of current asking prices. I never thought I'd see the day where a 575M or 599 GTB could be bought for less than an R34 Skyline. And that's before I mention the Asda savings in the back pocket.
Here in Japan you can buy a gate Murcie, 550 Maranello, and a McLaren 12C for the price of a BNR34. Some of the rarer cars are selling for more than the cost of a LFA
Same thing air-cooled Porsches did a few years before the JDM price surge (and E30 M3s to a lesser extent). I think some of them have "jumped the shark" and the prices are now only a reflection of the rarity and not of the actual driving experience, but when there are a limited number that is only shrinking because they're not produced anymore, and the amount of people that want one far exceed the amount available, that's what happens. Sigh.
@@jsquared1013 Such a melancholic truth! I can't help but wonder where we'll end up next. Sport cars (in my youth) were many things to many people -form, function and finances. Those who could not afford an RX-7 (like myself), were fortunate to still have entry with an MX-5. The little brother to the big. Obviously they are of no comparison where top trumps is concerned, but with one exception. How they made you feel as a driver. And it was that passion above all else, to all enthusiasts. Sadly, that is no longer the case.
Just wanted to say I do love to watch your videos. A shaky camera is the least of my concerns as I’m more interested in how well you communicate the way you feel driving the car. This is hands down best channel for this on TH-cam. Thank you for your hard work and God Bless.
Who on earth could hate the legendary R33 GTR?!! Dream car as an 18 year old from playstation 1 days! lol
It is definitely the most sedate looking of the 3, and when you consider most owners/enthusiasts are late 20's / early 30's, so they are usually looking for a more aggressively designed car. Whereas the sedate looking version allows you to enjoy yourself as you get older, without feeling slightly ridiculous like one might in a louder car.
I've always seen the R33 as the most aggressive looking one of the 3. I've always seen the R32 as the most sedate looking.
That intro really fills your confidence when you first drive it...
Nice video James. I do believe driving standard examples of each car would make the comparison much more balanced, though obviously sourcing unmolested examples of all three is a hard task in itself. For me a Midnight Purple R33 Nismo 400R is the one, just a shame they only made 44 and are now upwards of £250,000!
Oh boy, if only they were still worth £250,000. 😓🤣
No GTR deserves hate.. Ever.
Yup. End of.
I think this has been the best series you have done and I love the r33 gtr
The R33 Series doesn't deserve any hate at all. Back in its days It made a lot of R32 owners (waiting to upgrade) and fanboys unhappy because it was so radically different from the outside, with its rounded shape and longer wheelbase. Nissan reverted a lot of that when releasing the R34 and gained a lot of former R32 owners back. It has a rightful place in the line of GTR heritage.
Favorite of the 32-33-34 series. Well, the body style at least. Dream car would be one with switched out modern running gear in that odd purple.
That car sounds epic, brings back memories 👍
Surprised the chap who lent you his at short notice, didn't get a 'he must be good because his name is James' reference!
Liking the comparison so far, thank you.
Suspension comment was spot on.
It was designed to go fast and there it is perfect.
Same with range rover sport. Stupidity hard ride, but once you go off road you know immediately that you drive on honey! Perfection!
Any chance of seeing Sunny/Pulsar GTi-R?
seen one of these yesterday on a motorway in Ireland. 👍
Used to see a few GTIRs about my way years ago. Always liked them proper little weapons. Shame the gearboxes were weak and the SR motors don't make a nice sound
@@chappy2121 I seen one today the owner didn't get tho memo about weak gearbox it launched wellhard. They don't seem as fast as they did back then but good to see it being used properly
@@chappy2121 I had one, sounded great with a Mongoose exhaust. The gearbox was fine too, I think abuse killed off some which may have contributed to the ‘chocolate’ gearbox saying. I regret selling mine so much. It had 280bhp (rolling road) and was quick, even to today’s standards.
Not many people cover the DR30. If you do that one, you may get a lot of hits. And no one does the R31. I don't even know what those are like.
11:40 I sympathize with that blue hatchback, while commuting to work at dawn for 3 years-ish I had a white R33 GTS on my tail almost every single day. Me sporting a gawdy red Legacy B4 I guess this person started recognizing me because they didn't overtake me until we reached the open part of the road (car has plenty of power judging how fast they did catch to me after the turns plus almost not traffic at 4am in a backroad of a third world country), it was until I bought a Focus (hence the blue hatchback part) and driving it with the stock exhaust to notice how good that car did sound while engine braking while going down the steep hills near my town
I love R33 GT-Rs!! I love its sleek looks and it's my favorite car with the same age as I am!
The reason you are getting a push from the rear is the transfer case clutch setup is worn so not enough transfer goes to the front wheels. If the lights are on the dash for the HICAS then the G sensor is gone and its running rear wheel only. Its not the character of the car.
J's great videos I tend to save them like you best last piece of a meal so looking forward to the 34 and this series. Also a warning to any JDM Brothers out there have a Civic Type R fn2 and my cat was stolen off it so be aware that they're going for other cars. I think there was some horses missing from this guy's set up so you got a feel for him it's probably not set up properly yet. To be fair I like all three but I'm looking forward to the 34.👍
R33 is the king of Skylines because of two simple things.
1. The Nismo 400R
2. The Nismo GT-R LM
Ok thats just like saying the BNR34 is the king of Skylines because the Z-tune, S-Tune, and N1.
I had a mint R33 GTST with a rising sun stage 1 remap and a steel turbo, Totally rot free as it had only been in the Uk for 4 years, My brother did a back to bare metal repaint in Nismo red, Sold it about 7 years ago for 4.5K! Wish i hadn't, It's worth about 15K+ now! 😭
I've always liked the R33 best.
Definitely the best looking. The styling is well refined and everything about the body work just blends together so nicely. The 32 and 34 look so disjointed, like parts bin cars.
R 32 SHAPE IS MY FAVOURITE!!
Another brilliant and honest review, many thanks for that.
Cracking job listing the mods jay 👌 and my god those intake noises 😍😍😍
When the original gran turismo 1st came out, there was only 1 car: r33 gtr. 32 seemed obsolete already
That r32 is also stunning though
Love my '97 v-spec
R33 was always my fav
My favourite of the 3 by a long way
It looks and sounds epic!!!!😍😍😍
Great quality video, excellent 👍🏻
I like the r33 but the r32 remains my favorite because of the styling
The R33 has always been my favorite of them all
Great video Jay I really enjoyed it 👍 I’m looking forward to the R34 video. That’s my favourite Skyline.
Gotta say the sound's my favourite out of the 3 cars.
No rear windscreen wiper is either a very rare option to delete or an N1 chassis - either way not something you see very often!
Mine is a ‘95 R33 GTR V-Spec originally from Japan, and it does not have the rear window wiper 😉
@@creamlad if it is white then it is very probably an N1 chassis, they didn’t make many of those.
@@TacPrecision No, the rear wiper was an optional extra. Not specific to the N1
@@TheFactoryJackson Sooo like I said, a rare option to delete then?
@@TacPrecision Mine doesn't have one and I'd say its about half of the R33 GTR's i know don't have them. If you go on the GTR Registry you can see a lot of them weren't spec'd with rear wipers, especially the earlier ones.
3:55 - sold! Want one
My fav Gtr is the R33 period.
The history of Granturismo was made with this car and not the R34.
By the time the R34 came out, Granturismo was already a global game
A lot respect for those cars in 2020 still
Looks absolutely fantastic!
That car sounds bloody beautiful, jesus
For me the R33 has always been my favourite, just the best all rounder looks wise and for one you won't be called Paul Walker if you tell someone you have one.
Never been called Paul Walker even once 🤷🏾♂️
The car nobody likes
Me: That’s my favourite Skyline 😂
r33 gtst most enjoyable car i own, gc8 wrx close runner up but a rear end that slaps you in the face every once in a while gets my gold
0:10 the sign of a true enthusiasts car!😂👍
"Street's closed, pizza boy."
Who doesn’t like the r33 it is such a sexy car
you should get a mic setup under the bonnet, noriyaro did this before on a random drifting video and it works well when you splice the audio together with random comentary
best sounding turbo car all time
In terms of looks 1st R34, then r35, then r33, then r32...
That's a real shame. I said on yesterdays R32 video that it gave me a semi.... Unfortunately this car has made me limp again.
Maybe with less crashy suspension and a more subtle exhaust it could be better. But that looks tiring to drive.
Fingers crossed for R34.
I feel most of the things he didn't like were from the mods rather than the car itself...shame none of these are stock but thats very rare these days
@@socalguy829 agree with you. Imagine being able to buy a stock car..... Unmolested and how it was meant to be. A bit like rocking horse poo.
There isn't a Skyline I don't like, at least not from an exterior styling point of view. I've driven an R33 (an all-but standard V-Spec Nür) and moved an R34 around a bit (can't say I really "drove" the 34 as I was a car salesman at the time so I only ever really shunted it around the yard) the R33 is the car pretty much responsible for my Straight Six / Turbo addiction/fanboy-dom and to me the drive felt more akin to a grand tourer that was designed to be more accessible/affordable than it did a fully balls-out, fire-breathing, mental tuner car, but then as I say aside from some very minor bits and bobs, it was a standard car.
The thing that really annoys me about Skylines, in fact I'd go as far as to say it's the single thing that would put me off ever buying one - the interiors! So horrendous!
You can throw all the fancy Recaro seats, or whatever, in the world into them and they still might as well be a Primera inside!
To compare to something like a Supra (because of the natural rivalry and yes, because I'm a Supra fanboy) you get much nicer standard seats, the increased possibility of leather and in the case of the MK4, a cockpit which feels much more like you're in a fully fledged sports car.
Of course, the R35 GTR has a much nicer interior on the whole but, and again just in my opinion, it's WAY too busy in there and it just seems far too modern and like it's trying to compete with Ze Germans for my liking.
Splendid video as always Jay 👍
WOW, it does SHOUT!
34 is the best looking
This is the Skyline i like 😍😍😍 R33GT. To left hand drive the R33GT, what other Nissan cars would help achieve that?
Sounds better than any Aston you’ve reviewed 🤷🏿♂️🍺🤷🏿♂️
Ummm…No! The Aston sounds glorious. This sounds angry!
Like it or not, it's still a GTR
Agreed!
R33 is my favorite of the bunch
Has anyone got the Top Gear review of this? It was in 1996 and Jeremy Clarkson tested a black one. I've search high and low online but cannot find it.
It’s the Jun hyper lemon
Always liked these
The only people hating are the ones who really want one.
Hmmm...good reviews but I’m beginning to wish the dial could turned down a little on the ‘Early Clarkson Impersonation”. Say, from 11 down to 4-5 please. It’s beginning to irk and grate.
From design standpoint, somehow i like r33 more compared to the other two, first time i saw it was on tokyo drift, the scene on redlight where han was hooking up with some girls, I don't what about it but i feel like the car has a better line and a better proportion, the part that i like the most is the taillight which has symmetrical design with two round lights and a really nice stripes of light below, which also my biggest downside with r34 being two big round taillights that never really got me into liking it.
To me the R33 is the underdog icon. The last GTR without electronic assistance all over it !
you might want to look into the engineering of the BCNR33, it's full of electronic assistance
@@MrRem7600 right?! What does he think ATESSA ETS is? 🤣
@@KeenanStyles will I would guess that is it to help with when you slide it help it bring back the rear and I"ve heard that it's a hydraulic system
But I'm not sure just what I heard but I'm not sure
I want it to keep the hate so i could get one at a decent price
Any chance that a KPGC10 and KPGC110 review would come from the UK? I know its a long shot. But for some reason people think there are only 4 GT-R models.
They are too rare, worth too much. The ones you see running around are almost all fakes, with L series engines
Throttle, steering, brakes....?
Who needs em?
Excellent Jesus quote 😂
Tomei sounds the best for the rb26
thats my favorite gtr
Exactly. I don't like one. I love it.
1ST TIME I SAW THIS CAR WAS IN IMPORT TUNER MAGAZINE 😀
THIS IS MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE!!!
Real quick, the thing hanging from the rear view mirror was extremely distracting. I think that's a good reason to redo this video when the car is complete. Just saying....
Ride quality has to do with the no name coilovers. The longer wheelbase should have given a smoother ride
The r33 is the best of the 3, no question.
That generation, along with all prior ones, was not sold in the United States
Epic car
You say its on coil-overs. Maybe they just need setting up better for bumpy roads. Bet its ace on track.
quality is better yes
It was dull ... but amazing 👏
anyone else thinks the r33 is the best looking skyline
The 400r R33 is the best looking Skyline.
My goodness you complain about noise.. Get a Prius or Leaf
R32 still Rules the Skyline trio!!
Nah...just nah...
My favorite skyline. Nismo 400r, anyone?