Ryan, super great point there about "leanin isn't cleaning!". I feel like once the first 6 months of genuinely needing to clean passes people often are stuck in that cleaning mentality and it's very stale. It's super awesome with the companies that are able to over hurdle that and execute with small continuous improvement that helps her own job. I think that was generally the pivot point. When people realize that sweep is about finding the problem, sort is about getting most used things closest to you and just as importantly unused things out of your way. And then I love your explanation of standardize, so you never have to deal with it again. This is definitely going to be one of the top videos I recommend for people that are just starting lean. Or they're in the thick of lean for the last few years and it just hasn't clicked for them. Usually it's something that went wrong with three yes, and this is exactly the video to explain it thanks so much!
Ryan and Matt, touchdown again. Such a great video. So much clarity on 3s. What I like most is Alex’s quote on Standardizing that you’re changing things so you don’t have to deal with same problem again. Thank you for sharing.
The biggest challenge we have as a short lead time manufacturer is the different start times of the team and the customers coming to collect their gear. The truck drivers want to start their route the early shift guys engage and 3s, those arriving later have the pressure of the business as customers, and phones all happen. The early guys are now underway with their production making it really hard to have a whole team 3s.
I absolutely love this podcast and 1/2 of this video is going in my morning meeting tomorrow! This creates so much clarity to the WHY we 3S. 3S has helped our team out tremendously and this is the next level of understanding needed for more precision. Keep up the great work Ryan and Matt ~ Josh Barnes, Barnes Welding Inc. Waterville, Washington State, USA
We used lean smarts years ago to teach the concepts of 3S. That works really well. And then doing it in small groups to help understand it. Now it's all automated by a our entry and meeting screens
Great video, it explains 3S better than any other video I have ever seen. It even explains 3S better than 2 Second Lean. That being said I still think 5S, or even 4S might be easier to communicate. It seems that 5S is more complete: Sort: removal of the unnecessary Set in Order: Tools are organized and prioritized in place based upon their frequency of use Shine (sweep): Clean up the environment so problems can be found Standardize: Get everyone on the same page: policy, floor tape, markings, kaizen foam, shadow boards Sustain: Maintain what was accomplished above 5S includes each step in well-defined and prioritized order. 3S: Sweep(set in order is included in this step in the video). Sort: Removal of the Unnecessary Standardize: Solutions that avoid returning to the original problem. This definition is itself non-standard. 3S does not communicate why tools are set in order, and what specifically is being standardized and why, as well as 5S. I like the idea of simplifying 5S, and think you could do so far easier with something like 4S (do 4S every day and get rid of the "sustain" step). Work clean, work lean, work efficiently, and reduce waste. I think people can repeat the key words of 3S easier, the uninitiated new employee for example, but I think that each word must hold more meaning, and it is more complicated to properly understand and apply. A 5S poster is straight to the point, each step can be explained in a sentence or two. 3S has fewer "key words" but requires a lot more nuanced of explanation. 3S Unpacked: Sweep with Set in Order kind of attached but not in the title key words. Sort Standardize: More vague explanation about source removal of problems, and standardization of progress that was made in setting in order under "sweep".
As I trainer I teach each and every one of my trainees to 5S at the beginning of every shift, and to prepare for the work to come in advance(mise en place). The new employees that want to do a good job, and get done with things quickly and easily take to lean thinking like a fish in water.
Awesome video, thanks so mich! I am still trying to convince my mom our ceo to let me establish lean and she is concerned that besides all the other transformations going on it will be too much for the employees- what would you say to her regarding this concern? the other concern is that having to think of an improvement every single day could be a big pressure on some employees - what do you do about this? It would be great to hear back from you ☺️
When you said "cleaning to inspect" around 4:30, it clicked. Fire departments don't wash equipment because it's necessarily dirty (though some times it is). It's to make sure that everything is in good working order.
One of most high value business podcasts I’ve ever listened to.
Thanks for listening David :)
Ryan, super great point there about "leanin isn't cleaning!". I feel like once the first 6 months of genuinely needing to clean passes people often are stuck in that cleaning mentality and it's very stale. It's super awesome with the companies that are able to over hurdle that and execute with small continuous improvement that helps her own job. I think that was generally the pivot point. When people realize that sweep is about finding the problem, sort is about getting most used things closest to you and just as importantly unused things out of your way. And then I love your explanation of standardize, so you never have to deal with it again. This is definitely going to be one of the top videos I recommend for people that are just starting lean. Or they're in the thick of lean for the last few years and it just hasn't clicked for them. Usually it's something that went wrong with three yes, and this is exactly the video to explain it thanks so much!
Thank you Hugh!
Ryan and Matt, touchdown again. Such a great video. So much clarity on 3s. What I like most is Alex’s quote on Standardizing that you’re changing things so you don’t have to deal with same problem again.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for listening!
The biggest challenge we have as a short lead time manufacturer is the different start times of the team and the customers coming to collect their gear. The truck drivers want to start their route the early shift guys engage and 3s, those arriving later have the pressure of the business as customers, and phones all happen. The early guys are now underway with their production making it really hard to have a whole team 3s.
So many LEAN gurus that help me with my day to day work/life balance. Thanks Ryan
I absolutely love this podcast and 1/2 of this video is going in my morning meeting tomorrow! This creates so much clarity to the WHY we 3S. 3S has helped our team out tremendously and this is the next level of understanding needed for more precision. Keep up the great work Ryan and Matt ~ Josh Barnes, Barnes Welding Inc. Waterville, Washington State, USA
Thankyou for watching Josh, and it's amazing that you are using this as learning content at your morning meeting
We used lean smarts years ago to teach the concepts of 3S. That works really well. And then doing it in small groups to help understand it.
Now it's all automated by a our entry and meeting screens
How do you mean automated.
@@phillipnz1911 as in who has to do what each day
Great video, it explains 3S better than any other video I have ever seen. It even explains 3S better than 2 Second Lean. That being said I still think 5S, or even 4S might be easier to communicate.
It seems that 5S is more complete:
Sort: removal of the unnecessary
Set in Order: Tools are organized and prioritized in place based upon their frequency of use
Shine (sweep): Clean up the environment so problems can be found
Standardize: Get everyone on the same page: policy, floor tape, markings, kaizen foam, shadow boards
Sustain: Maintain what was accomplished above
5S includes each step in well-defined and prioritized order.
3S: Sweep(set in order is included in this step in the video).
Sort: Removal of the Unnecessary
Standardize: Solutions that avoid returning to the original problem. This definition is itself non-standard.
3S does not communicate why tools are set in order, and what specifically is being standardized and why, as well as 5S. I like the idea of simplifying 5S, and think you could do so far easier with something like 4S (do 4S every day and get rid of the "sustain" step). Work clean, work lean, work efficiently, and reduce waste.
I think people can repeat the key words of 3S easier, the uninitiated new employee for example, but I think that each word must hold more meaning, and it is more complicated to properly understand and apply. A 5S poster is straight to the point, each step can be explained in a sentence or two. 3S has fewer "key words" but requires a lot more nuanced of explanation.
3S Unpacked:
Sweep with Set in Order kind of attached but not in the title key words.
Sort
Standardize: More vague explanation about source removal of problems, and standardization of progress that was made in setting in order under "sweep".
Great stuff boys.
Amazed stuff guys! I used to say “sweep with your head” thus inspires me to say “sweep with your senses…”
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Awesome!
Thank you for this new perspective! I'm going to share this with my management team!
Appreciate it Joshua. We have shorts available on the webpage if you'd like to play them in your morning meetings :)
As I trainer I teach each and every one of my trainees to 5S at the beginning of every shift, and to prepare for the work to come in advance(mise en place). The new employees that want to do a good job, and get done with things quickly and easily take to lean thinking like a fish in water.
Awesome video, thanks so mich! I am still trying to convince my mom our ceo to let me establish lean and she is concerned that besides all the other transformations going on it will be too much for the employees- what would you say to her regarding this concern? the other concern is that having to think of an improvement every single day could be a big pressure on some employees - what do you do about this? It would be great to hear back from you ☺️
When you said "cleaning to inspect" around 4:30, it clicked. Fire departments don't wash equipment because it's necessarily dirty (though some times it is). It's to make sure that everything is in good working order.
You got it Brad!