Zoom MultiStomp - Video Manual: How to Design and Store Patches
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- A thorough, step-by-step guide to navigating the menu system and how to build your own patches from scratch, in the amazingly versatile and epicly ambient, Zoom MultiStomp.
If you find this video useful, you might also benefit from my other video guide on how to set up this pedal for live use:
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And the “unofficial” 1.1.1 patch manager enables (and makes available) every effect from all the cdr pedals 50, 60, 70 and the two gx pedals. It’s incredible. Makes the 70 cdr the best value around once you add some of the bass pedal effects, distortion, amp simulations, and the already great delay and reverb, into your stereo pedal. Simply amazing.
how do you apply that patch? sounds so cool
Yes! Was fairly easy to install. So many pedal clones and effects
now you can change the firmware between each version and get over the limit of 4 effects on the 60B
In my humble opinion and speaking as an older guy with no patience, you should work for the company. You made it all so simple. (Forget about the people who said you should prepare more). All I wanted was to see someone playing about with it and explaining how to do stuff I couldn't see in the manual. You were great. Carry on :-)
I just got my Zoom ms-70 and II coild not believe how easy and intuitive it is to navigate thru presets and create your own, even easier after watching your tutorial, great pedal and great work from you. Cheers
Thanks! Glad you found this useful. 🙂
Check out my other video, about how to set it up for live use!
U saved my Life, m8. Had this pedal 4 awhile but couldnt never figure it out. U made it waaaay easier. Thanks, great job. its an amazing pedal
Aw, I'm glad you found it useful! 😊 Thanks for watching. 👍
Sir I just wanna thank you for this video ,,, it helped me so much and without this I was feeling rather lost everytime I used my zoom ms 70 ,,,THANK YOU !!!
No worries! Glad you found it useful. 😁
Just what I needed! Thank you! I don’t know if people have moaned about your videos being too long, but if they doo just ignore it! The quality is great. Cheers from Brazil bro 😁
Ha ha, very kind. Thank you! Glad you found the video useful!
Love your videos from the multistomp series, It's amazing how good this pedal still is!
I cant wait to try this pedal. Just order mine.
The Zoom 70 cdr is more massive than you think!……my son who is a physicist has done the math for it with the information I gave him.
The device has 68 effects and up to five effects can be added to one main effect giving a total of 6 effects together in one patch and or lesser numbers of effects summed together.
He has worked out that there are over 1.5 BILLION PERMUTATIONS and that to listen to ONE EFFECT for ONE second it will take you 47 years to listen to them all.
Actually you will not live long enough because you have to sleep a third of that time and spend other seconds flipping through the menus.
Zoom did not tell us this……….see you in 47 years when you’ve listen to them all.
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I just picked up one used and didn't come with a manual so this video was invaluable! thank you🙏👍✌
You're welcome! Glad it helped you out. You might want to check out my other video on different ways to set it up for live use. 😀
Thanks bro!👍 I'll do that!✌
@@maxmatson1578 mine didn't come with a manual either www.zoom-na.com/sites/default/files/products/downloads/pdfs/MS-70CDR_operationManual_English.pdf
Have you tried the online editor?
@@jrr832 I didn't know it had one? thank you!🙏✌
Just got a Zoom , Thanks for the upload ...this makes a lot of sence now...Take care Jim
No probs! Glad it helped. 🙂
@@PedalExperiments Yes a big help, great vid...
I can't believe I haven't seen this before. It would have made things so much easier for me and saved a hell of a lot of my time.
Very informative and useful - great review!
Haha, why thank you! Glad you found it useful. 🤓
Big bada Zoom! (Had to be said, even though I'm probably not the first to say it.)
Great video manual! Thanks for doing this.
Haha! Cheers! 😄
finally a good light programming
Just ordered mine. This is very helpful. Hopefully I'll know somewhat to to do once I get this ambience machine. Great video!
Thanks! Congrats on your purchase. 😀👍
Glad you found the video useful. You might find my other video guide helpful, too. It's all about setting the pedal up to use in a live context!
@@PedalExperiments I'll check it out!
There's a link up in the description!
Thanks ! At last I understand this patch thing.
Glad it helped! 😁
Thank you. I followed along and named it Slapmethric. Cause that’s all I could fit. I appreciate the video as in new to this pedal. I subbed !
Thank you so much! Ha ha, I'm honoured you named a patch after me! 😆
Glad my videos have helped you. If you want any more information and fun ways that people use this amazing pedal, check out the r/zoommultistomp sub over on Reddit!
Thank you for this very informative tutorial!
You're more than welcome!
Glad you found it useful. 🙂
Thanks Man... Thisbwas very helpful.
I'm glad! You're welcome. 👊😎
Very helpful. Thanks!
You're welcome!
Hi thanks for the video tutorial that was very good help I got one of these 3 months ago and I still can't work it but this help imens thanks 👍🎼
Aw, I'm glad you found it useful! Thanks!
Really useful mate, thanks 👍
You're welcome! Glad you found it useful. 😊
Great explanation!
Thank you!
Glad you found it useful. 👍
Well done mate just what I was looking for My ms 50g book talks about Chains and patches just to make it difficult so both are = Thanks
You're most welcome. Glad you found it useful!
Thankyou
My pleasure!
Thanks man, these vids have helped, appreciate it!
Jonny Hall
Cool. I'm glad you found them useful! Thanks, dude. 👍
Or... you could also use the "ToneLib-Zoom" computer program and edit patches on the PC easily and way more comfortably.
19:30 is when you explain how to save a patch !
Thanks!
My pleasure!
i was afraid if i deleted the effects in memory it would delete the effect for good! i think if you delete chain it removes all at once? idk
It won't delete the actual effect from the pedal, no. I think you can choose to manually remove/add effects from the pedal using the PC editor, though. Or I might be thinking of third-party software.
Great video. Will post it on my Zoom Multistomp Users Group page on FB if that’s okay
Isn't there an app to create MS70CDR presets? I'm not talking about the "unofficial" Zoom Effects Manager, but an app to do what this video does on the device.
How is the quality of the tuner. ??
Pretty decent! 👍🏻
How can I transfer patches from a CD to my MS-50G
THANK YOU
YOU'RE WELCOME! 😄
Thanks for this! Very helpful.
19:27 How to store effects.
Thank you! Guy was getting too hung up on tweaking the settings for each of the pedals he selected for his patch. To be fair, that's super easy to do with this thing. Like I'll go to pick a basic spring reverb, and next thing I know I've spent 3 and a half hours trying a bunch of stuff...
Yeah, sorry about that! I don't know how to make a short video. 😄
@@PedalExperiments All good, my dude! Was a very useful refresher on how this pedal works. I just wish there was an easier way to switch between patches in a live setting. Then again, who even plays in a live setting right now?
There is! Check out my other video on how to set up the MultiStomp for live use! 😀
At 12:56. Are you sure it's because you're not using the "dirty gate"? Type and not the regular gate type?
Possibly. I don't have a lot of experience with using the noise gates though, I'm afraid.
hello. does the same method goes with MS 50g?
Yes, they are very similar pedals inside. Although the MS-50G also has amp simulators and drive effects in it.
thank you. very helpful tutorial 👌
@@mastervhen8010 You're welcome. 🙂👍
Any suggestions for a Lo-Fi chain?
That thumbnail tho!
Yeah what’s the deal with that? Click bait?
@@rockhead11 catch phrase of the movie is her showing an ID and saying "Multi-Pass" as "Mooltee-Pass"
My MS 70 CD-R froze on an update, and won’t turn back on after I had to eventually turn it off.... any solutions to get the pedal back on 😭
Aw man, that sucks! Sorry to hear that. I'm afraid I don't know how to cure that issue.
Have you tried using batteries?
@@PedalExperiments Yes, no joy...thanks though m8
has anyone noticed that some patches wont pass stereo?? i had my dd20 gigadelay in front of the zoom and there are a few patches that wont pass the ping pong from the DD 20... even if there is a stereo switch turned to on.. ..many will, but some wont.... i thought it was my DD20, but it was the zoom. solution....put the zoom in front of the DD 20..
I didn't know about this. Very strange!
thank you for this! it's much easier... cheers!
You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful.
Nice tutorial, do u think its good when i combine zoom ms70cdr for reverb and delay and zoom ms50g for basic like compressor, modulation, and noise gate also do u think these 2 (pedal ms70 and ms60) work really well with boss pedal (ds1 and other drive pedal), and volume/wah?
Yes, I've actually got three MultiStomps on my board; all doing different jobs.
Definitely recommend using other pedals for your drive, though. So yes, they'll work well with other pedals! 👍
Thanks - really helpful! Did you encounter any issues with high-pitched hum on your zoom? I only just got mine, so there might be some basic setup parameters ive not read about yet, but it does seem quite noisey straight out the box even on battery power.
I've heard other people talk about having this issue, but I personally haven't experienced this.
Someone on the MultiStomp subreddit that they took the back off and pressed on one of the components, and the hum disappeared while they were touching it. So it sounds like some of them have a bad earthing problem? Not sure though.
All I know is, I've got two MS-70CDR's and they're both fine.
Not sure exactly what i did, but i think by adjusting the efx level settings on a page, the noise is greatly reduced.
@@MikeRenouf Woo hoo! Glad you were able to improve things. Is there still some noise there, though?
Very little. It's vastly improved.
@@MikeRenouf Excellent. 👍
Great video! I would like to ask you how do use this pedal when using with distortion/overdrive. For me I've got better results guitar----overdrive----amp or guitar----amp. Usually I play in different open mics and I don't have effect loop. Also any suggestion for acoustic guitar? Many thanks for explaining this.
Hi, glad you enjoyed it. 😊
I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but I mostly use my MultiStomp for modulation and ambient effects, so I place it after my drive pedals, but before my other delays. If I got my dirt from my amp, then I'd put it in the effects loop.
It should work just as well on acoustic as on electric, but I'd mainly use it for subtle chorus and delay effects, if I were you.
Hope that helps?
There's a volume drop on mine when using it with most of the presets, what could be the reason for that?
I made this video a while back, and my effects levels were all over the place, tbh.
These days, my patches are generally a lot closer to unity volume. But there's so much you can adjust and tweak on these pedals, you can easily boost or cut the volume on individual effects, and adjust equaliser settings. 👍
Where is the distortion/overdrive patch?
The drive effects aren't found on the MS-70CDR, only on the MS-50G, MS-100BT, and the MS-60B.
This video made me want to buy this pedal, Very informative. Thank you for this.
Just a quick question. Can I combine 2 effects at the same time? I'm planning to buy this pedal to play Pardon me and Nice to know you by incubus, However. I don't have enough knowledge with Multi fx and I want to save money (Boss DD3 and MXR Phase 90 are expensive) Thank you in advance for the feedback.
Hi, thanks for the kind words!
Yes, you can stack up to 6 effects at once, in any order, depending on how much available dsp the patch requires. For example, if you try to stack more than 4 reverbs, it'll usually stop you. But 6 modulation or filter effects are no problem!
I definitely recommend picking one up. They're incredible!
I've got another MultiStomp guide video you might find useful, too.
Feel free to ask me any other questions you might have!
Thank you so much for your feedback, Keep these wonderful videos coming. Keep safe 👌
'Preciate it! I'm certainly trying to. 😁
All the best to you, too!
Starts off pretty good, but then spends way too much time messing with lots of effects and tweaks. Just two or three would have been plenty then go on to explain how to go back into the patch and delete or add other effects, how to change their order and how to delete a patch. Also mention some of the settings such as the backlight which can be turned off to prolong battery life. Oh, and maybe have a practise to refresh you memory before you begin.
Sorry, I only just saw this comment.
You're right, I talk for way too long at the best of times so I should have focused things up for this video. I might make another, short version of this guide for people without as much time on their hands.
Thanks!
Who is that in the thumbnail & what movie is it from? ..Anyone?
That's Milla Jovovich, in the movie "The Fifth Element". In that scene, she says "multi-pass" while holding up a lanyard. I thought it would be funny to photoshop the MultiStomp into this still shot. 🙂
@@PedalExperiments Thanks, guys. Great channel!
Ha ha, no probs. And thanks!
Hi,i use the lead chanel on my amp.It is work when zoom is in the fx loop and eq is sett as level boost?It's enough level output or not?
10x
Yes, it should work fine. Although if you just want to use it for that, I'd recommend getting a Caline 10 Band EQ.
@@PedalExperiments I wanna use the other mod effects too.Just don't like to boost signal in front of the amp.Looking for something small and multifunctional for fx loop.
10x
Ah ok, I see! Yes, it should work fine for you. 😃👍
@@PedalExperiments Thanks man !👍
So your video has shown me how to edit the damn thing but now I cant get the pedal to work like a stomp. I want to be able to turn the effects on and off but they are just constantly on. How do I get it to work like a stomp box?? Lol
Check out my other video on how to set it up for live use. That should hopefully answer your questions! :-)
You do know that you can change the order of the effects in the chain, right? You don't have to "save that for the end", you just move it to the end of the chain inside the pedal. Same with that compressor; you didn't have to ditch it, you just needed to put it in the most effective part of your effects chain.
Yes, I do. thanks. 🙂
@@PedalExperiments My bad, I had to watch this again to understand that I misunderstood what you were doing. I left that comment before I saw your channel page. Wow. Clearly you don't need any help from me.
@@PedalExperiments I was watching this in hopes of finding an answer to something I'm sure is a pedal function; if not then I need to return the unit I just got. I got this pedal a few days ago & because I've had lots of Zoom units b4, I went right into designing patches, until I noticed that even when the pedal was disengaged, the effected signal was still coming thru? This has to be a routing issue right? Or maybe some kind of live mode? I'm noticing another one of your videos to the left; "How to set up your MS for live use". Maybe my answers are there?
@@JeighNeither I sounds like you might be only turning off one effect within a patch, rather than the whole patch itself.
If you press the right button next to the footswitch, it should scroll sideways until you reach a "line selector" effect. If you press the footswitch on that block, it'll turn off the whole chain at once.
Try that!
@@JeighNeither Ha ha, no worries mate.
Sorry, but NO. Chorus is NOT "just vibrato", in fact the OG chorus uses NO VIBRATO at all. Where did you even come up with that? You can't have chorus without copies of the original signal, & then you need those copies minutely delayed, so DELAY is essential to achieve a legit Chorus effect. Moving on to the modulation, it's an LFO (low frequency oscillator), not vibrato, that achieves the iconic sound. While true, there are many types of Chorus, a chorus built from a vibrato, is a specialized Chorus that would usually be labeled "Vibrato Chorus", or even the other way around, but NO popularized chorus that we've have heard throughout the decades, but mostly in the 80's, achieved it's modulation from vibrato. The most essential effect for a proper Chorus is Delay, not vibrato, since multiple types of modulation can achieve a chorus effect, but can't be layered & slightly staggered without Delay.
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@@PedalExperiments I looked at your channel page; first thought is why in the hell don't you have more views? I don't think I've ever found a channel that has as many pedals documented as you do! You're like the Trogly's of effects pedals. And you do boutique & cheap Chinese pedals; that's really cool. So you clearly know what you're doing, & now I'm even more interested in your take on chorus. Perhaps more than just a "K"? I know you're terribly busy; you have to be with the amount of amazing content you have. I couldn't possibly know as much about effects pedals, so if you are able to find a few free moments, I'd really like to hear your take on Chorus; as in it being only vibrato. I'm sure I'm missing something; I usually am 🙄
Thanks for explaining. I thought you were trolling me before, hence the "K". Ha ha! Sorry about that.
Thanks for the support! I've only really been building my channel this past year, so I'm glad I made it to 1,000 subs in such a short time. I'm confident I'll get a lot more over the next year!
When I said about vibrato being chorus, what I meant was, chorus is comprised of a vibrato, blended with your dry signal. A lot of famous guitarists get their chorus sound that way, in fact. They send their vibrato to one amp, and dry signal to other amp, and the combined sound is an amazing, full, chorus effect.
Hope that clears things up?
@@PedalExperiments No, not trolling, but I'm not the greatest writer sometimes, & I come across as dry, I'm probably on the spectrum or something.
You're talking about a wet/dry set-up right? I've tried that set up, but I don't have the right parts to make it work. I have a nice head & stack, but the other amp is a smaller Roland solid state, that I sent the clean thru, but I still get a more lush sound going stereo with them instead. I think it's just because the smaller amp is lacking. I haven't tried running vibrato that way; I've seen & heard wet/dry done right, but I just can't seem to duplicate it with what I've got. Thanks for taking the time to explain that tho!
No probs, mate! 🙂
You don't need to have a wet/dry setup to get that deconstructed chorus sound. For instance, I've got a great pedal called the Nu-X CH-3 Chorus which has a blend knob. Dialling it one way you get vibrato, and then it turns into chorus as you turn the knob the other way. It's pretty cool!
Come back when you know what you're doing. Good bye.
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Well, thanks For the video, but you should prepare more when doing an instructional video
Clopezl01
Fair point. Will bear that in mind for the future! Thanks!
Wow. Where's your instructional video, Clopezl01? Hmmm?
Chicken
You talk too much
This is a instructional video, of course hes going to talk..
I'm aware. I'm sorry.
It appears to me that the main footswitch can only be used to either turn on or an effect within a single patch, or to scroll up the patch list. what i'd like to able to do is to use the footswitch on certain patches, to turn FX on and off within the patch, but also use the footswitch to scroll through the patches: A>B>C>D etc etc.
would you know if there is an option to have this dual functionality on the footswitch?
Yeah, that's about all the footswitch can do, I'm afraid. Aside from also accessing the tuner function, or the tap tempo.
Maybe there's a way to cycle through presets via MIDI and thus freeing-up the main footswitch to turn specific effects off, but honestly I'm not sure about that.
Other than that, the only way around your problem that I can see, is to save two or more patches that are almost identical, but without the specific effects you wish to turn off. Then you can cycle through those presets to get the desired result?
If that's not really the solution you're looking for, and if you require more in-depth control, then I think you'd be better suited to the Line 6 HX Stomp, as that's like a MultiStomp on steroids!
@@PedalExperiments the work around, like you say, is just to have a patch for each part of the tune and cycle through them. i don't have a large set list but i can imagine the patch slots will start to fill up pretty quickly. i still like the pedal. for the price and the footprint, it's a bargain.
Yeah, exactly. There's nothing else on the market that offers this much functionality at this price point, so a lot of the time you just have to accept the handful of small limitations it has. 🤷♂️
You could always just get a second one? 😜