I hacked my Zoom Multistomp Pedal (Don't try this at home)
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"What if I told you that you could have ALMOST EVERY EFFECT in your Zoom MS-50G, MS-60B, MS-70CDR, G1on/G1xon or B1on/B1xon pedal? Alexander Puschkarew, a brilliant programmer, found a way and I tried out his "unofficial" Effects Manager 1.1.0. If you want to try this: Be careful - as the software is not official and can damage your pedal. I was lucky though. Meanwhile there is an update called 1.1.1."
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"What if I told you that you could have ALMOST EVERY EFFECT in your Zoom MS-50G, MS-60B, MS-70CDR, G1on/G1xon or B1on/B1xon pedal? Alexander Puschkarew, a brilliant programmer, found a way and I tried out his "unofficial" Effects Manager 1.1.0. If you want to try this: Be careful - as the software is not offical and can damage your pedal. "
Yes it it fried my MS-70CDR pedal 😭 it won’t turn on..... FFS, I shouldn’t have been greedy for MS-50G amps
@@pongtrometer oh shit, really? you did everything correctly?
@@pongtrometer which version did you use 1.1.0 or 1.1.1 ? Did you manage to fix it??
@@mrfeenix1 1.1.1 still not fixed 😩...do you have any solutions...cheers.
@@pongtrometer Hello, Sorry no . I'm trying to see if it's worth attempting but all the comments seem to be people saying they will but no one comments if they did and it worked (or not). If it won't turn back on it's probably bricked. If it turns on then do a factory reset (which you probably know already)
The single coolest how-to video EVER! That format was fantastic.
Thank youuuuu!✌
Huge bonus, that noone has mentioned is the cleanup affect. If you didn't add a single effect, and only removed the crap you don't use, that's a huge improvement for this little pedal. I'm definitely going to look up some info about this pedal now. If the effects are good quality, I'm in.
Indeed it is good for cleaning up the stuff you don't need
My zoom G1XON is now basically a Zoom MS-70CDR
Downside is I can't assign any of the effects to the expression pedal to control any parameters (not that I needed to but just for additional info)
And also I can't use too many of the effects from the MS-70CDR at once as it takes a huge chunk of processing power
But now I have access to cool sounds and just use the volume pedal to create ambient stuff.
I know this is old, but are you saying that there is more room to run big reverbs and such or is that a separate set of memory?
"I gave you more effects than you could ever use in your life"
* laughs in kevin shields *
I did it yesterday with my B1on and I added all the reverbs from the MS 70 CDR. It's easy and it works
🙏🎸
Oh shit I didn't know this also works on the B1on. I suppose the FX from the CDR are better so you can't stack 6 effects anymore? (Or however many you could stack before)
Dang this is interesting! I'll probably be grabbing a G1on then!
The MS50/70CDR was the best investment in my pedal chain that I made in a long time. I'll probably get another one of these very soon.
“So you need more effect”
Really cant argue with that.
I love that you didn't even try to hide that you've already visited all of the Google links.
Haha. Amazing acting here.
Heads up, many of the effects in the MS-70CDR, and the additional effects from these others pedals will sum to mono, so even if it has a stereo input it will be handled as mono in the signal chain.
Yeah, I think so, too. And I never really use the stereo input anyways. But it's not too bad to have the option.
This opens a whole new possibilities, i have the Zoom ms70, but now il get some more of the used cheaper ones to put the same goodness inside, thank you!
I have Zoom G1xon and have been using this from past one year, unlimited power.
So it works on g1xon? Gotta try this
Wow this is awesome! I have two ms-70's and have wanted an ms-50 for a while now to get the amp and pedal tones but now I have one of the ms-70's setup to do just that, works flawlessly!
Sounds amazing!!!
I had this pedal for almost 10 years and only today I learned about this magnificent hack. This turns my MS-60B from a Swiss Army knife to a one-tool-fizes-all. I feel just as overwhelmed as you did by all the possibilities.
🙏 I'm happy to hear that. :) On www.zoomeffectmanager.com you can find an updated version of this.
I did it last year in my Zoom G1ON and it was amazing! MS50, 60 and 70CDR on it, becomes my sounds really great!
Small update of zoom Effect Manager - 1.1.1,
updated versions of firmware:
now MS-50G - 3.1 MS-60B, MS-70CDR - 2.1
I just downloaded 1.1.0 ... 1.1.1 is better now?
I have the MS-50G
@@sha-to964 I have MG-50G too. As long as I know the new Manager 1.1.1 includes the pedals included with the firmware update 3.10 and those included in the upgraded version of the other pedals.
Now I can put for example without the hack the 7 band eq on my 50g?
@@bastianmaoro8278 Si, el Ba GEQ y st gt GEQ estos dos están disponibles por lo que encontré de 7 bandas, puedes buscarlo en google para que veas la imagen del pedal
@@sha-to964 Amigo y como lo busco
The rhythm guitarist in my band showed me this video after knowing I have the CDR and I have to say now it's my favorite pedal!
Haha...I've never owned a Zoom product besides the H1N little digital recorder with the condenser mics built in. I used that to record shows with varying levels of success.
So what kind of limits are there as far as total effects inside, and how many per patch can you use? And lastly, how does it sound?
@@rickfeith6372
I'm amazed that the MS50-g has most of the effects indicated in the manager. I also noticed that the G1X-on is essentially a MS50-g but with a looper feature and a control pedal. I'm already looking for one since they are actually quite inexpensive compared the the MS series. Thanks for sharing this.
Worst case scenario, if this does damage the pedal, can you just do a factory reset or firmware update to fix it?
I recently discovered your channel and am so happy it exists. Thank you for this!!! I'm buying this pedal now...
Hey man. I am also glad you discovered my channel. :) Welcome on board. There's a lot of new content on my list for the upcoming weeks.
I love my cdr. I picked this one for the stereo input aswell and the fact that I have way too many distortions/ overdrive/ fuzzes and not enough delay and Reverbs. Crazy stuff your doing! (I love that Kevin shields jesus)
The opening to this was legitimately funny, well done 😆
Finally TH-cam recommends something great! I do hope this video stays up.
the manager is really cool, but I found if you have the ms 50g you don't gain much unless you want the bass effects. besides that it already has everything, except 2 or 3 effects that are exclusive to the the cdr. still cool, plus it lets you clean out any effects that you don't use
For the big muffs for bass, Green Russian is much more preferred than Bass Big Muff
Never tried it. Hopefully I can check it out at some point. Thanks for sharing.
@@berlinshoegazer You should! Not sure if the Green Russian Muff patches are available on Zoom pedals, but the pedal itself is great and inexpensive brand new🙂
Totally agree @Firdausidros. The Russian bubble font (Tym Guitars) version is the best.
Hi Shoegazer I bought th ms60b and reprogrammed as per this video... Now hat it requires to be switched on to effect the change. How do I switch it on or it will work when I plug it and play? It sounds dumb but I am new to zoom ms series... pls help.
Or you could get the JHS Muffaletta and get 5 or 6 different analog Big Muffs in one pedal
I was on the fence about getting the ms50 but the amount of effects really attracted me. Now it's just looking much more likely that I will lol
ive been thinking of buying the MS50 G and now i want it even more, thank you for showing this!
1: Zoom is going to make a lot of sales of hardware now.
2: Use a virtual machine (or dedicated crapware machine) to download any software you are not 100% sure if is spyware/virus etc - a VM will still allow you to access USB devices.
3: Don't cry if your brick your device. :)
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That's why I love this channel, always surprises me with the thing I actually need. 🤔
If kevin shields pedalboard was to compact in a single box
Just get a MS-50G. The mono input isn't really a disadvantage. People seem to think the MS-70CDR is for synths or more professional use but they are identical inside. They say the 70CDR has more CPU power but I haven't struck run out of CPU power in chains of 5 or 6 effects yet.
Cuz like I need the stereo out but I also need fender amp emulation and also distortion options.
They are both stereo out. 70cdr has only a second (stereo) input on top of that.
Thanks very much for the breakdown and demos! Btw I love your glasses
Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure making this video. And yeah, a friend of mine designed these glasses. I was very lucky to get these before the company closed.
Damn, these zoom pedals are truly incredible by itself. I bought my cdr-70 for synths and I swear it’s the best purchase of the century. And now we can have all the effects from any pedals in the line, I think Zoom corp would hate it. Hey guys, if you read this - we love you, please forgive us! :)
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Does anyone tried to update any g1 on or g1xon?
Is definitely a Swiss army knife, I will be in heaven if we there is a effect loop effect then we can use 4 cable method.
@@monkcleo just use some output jacks some switches and maybe a pot and you can make a switcher that does that externally.
@@michaeljoseph8229 What I means is if we could tap into the effect chain of the pedal, that will be great!
Bro I’m cracking up only 3 min into the vid. Thanks for the tutorial I’m excited!! Will you be sharing the new patches you cook up through the manager??
I'm currently creating sounds with these. I could defintily do that.. if I'm not in prison by then. 👀
This is the new universe we living and entering now gradually .Brings love and shareing,..not greed...awesome Thanks Boris or what his name is ,..now i got the particle reverb i was longing for in my MS-60B Whithout need to buy the MS-70 CDR......yes it is true it works...it is unbelivable,...Thanks also SHOEGAZER
Now I want a Zoom MS even more, I feel like I'm missing out. Thanks for the guide!
Also holy crap, look at all those spambots
I have two G1Xon, one for pre pedals, then a tube amp (preamp), and then amp simulations and effects.
As soon as i get one in my hands imma try to code a looper for it, im not even sure what kind of programming language or dev kit they use but hell imma try and do it, bc thats only thing this pedal needs. a looper
that would be the holy grail in stombox format!
I put some MS60B amp sims on my MS50G and none of the existing Windows hack apps allows you to adjust the newly installed effects, so you must manually using the buttons select the new effects you install, but you can't see anything in the Windows apps except default effects. Oddly if you select them they show up as line thru. If you have a rogue effect inputed via firmware hack, it also won't show up as anything but line thru.
Great hack! Worked for me. Love to have some Fuzz and Distortion FX on the MS70 🙌
I really wanted to hear some of these sounds
This is such a funny video, great work - I hope we see that scary hacker guy again in a future episode - he is destined for big things, maybe his own Netflix series
Mr Robot
Muchas gracias!!! Yo tengo el CDR 70 y con los efectos que he añadido tengo el pedal definitivo. Genial!!!
Tardo mucho crack
Someone finally did it
I put a click-bait title to my video. Here's what happened next.
What happend?
@@berlinshoegazer not much, i still watched the whole thing :)
I recently bought an MS60B as an all purpose modulation and space unit for my pedalboard and I came across this video just after. I got rid of all the bass amps which I'm not fond of and now I basically have this hybrid of an MS60B and MS70CDR
can you put in your zoom ms60b all effects for guitar ?? from zoom ms50 g o 70cdr ?? thanks
@Elipses You can put any effects from the MS and G/B series into one MS pedal using the modded effect manager app as long as you don't cross the memory capacity of the flash memory inside.
@@AradhyaOnBass excellent. Because im a guitar player and i get one zoom ms60b jaja. And i dont know if i put guitar effects in that it will sound like guitar. 😀
@@AradhyaOnBass hi its me again. I have a question just in case. If I add effects from ms50g or cdr 70 that its for guitar into the zoom ms60 for bass. If i connect the guitar in the zoom ms60b for bass there its no problem to connect the guitar in that zoom??? Sorry thanks a lot jaja
@@elipses667 I don't understand your question
The hack enables you to add all those sounds and choose what sounds you want, right? But does it update the firmware also? Thank you for the video and say Hello to Berlin from me! I love that city :-)
Hello back from Berlin. :) I think it's not an official update. It really just an easy organisation tool that gives you some additional effects to chose from.
As a "slightly aged" musician, I have a natural aversion to meme-ey videos, but this was a delight from start to finish. Excellent video and wonderful sense of humor. Thank you so much for expanding the capabilities of an already capable pedal. Subscribed.
Expanding the mind of a slightly aged meme-adverted guitar player 🫡
So, that is where Ninja Tyler went after he disappeared from youtube.
😆
If only we could add the effects of MS-70CDR into zoom G3Xn man that would be so much more useable considering the bigger form factor
I have the g1x four. I'm guessing this effects manager 1.1.0 does not work on it?
"Are you shoegaze or what?" hahahahaha
I did this last month with my CDR and it's incredible
Can I do this on g1X Four? It's a good MFX but lack alot of effects that has on multistomp series.
Thank you Sir. Out of gratitude, I am subscribed. Thank you
Hope it works on your pedal. Have fun and thanks for the sub!!!🙏
Will this work for g1x four???
Thanks ! Just added some fx to my G1Xon which was already a great pedal.
Edit : I found out there is a downside to this hack/update:
Some fx can no longer be adjusted with the expression pedal on my G1Xon.
Before, I could, for instance, use the expression pedal to change the mix amount of the Particle Reverb, the delaytime of the Carbon Delay or the depth of the Super Chorus.
When I select the parameter I want to use with the expression pedal in the Patch Settings it says "None" for some pedals now after using the fx manager.
Anyone found a solution for this?
Having the extra fx is great but maybe I'll change back to the factory settings so I can use the expression pedal again like I did before.
Edit: I tried to change back to the G1Xon factory settings using the official Zoom 2020 updater from their site but it doesn’t work. It says " illegal device connected"
Found an older Zoom updater from 2016 (same version v1.21) on my old computer and that one works. Guess Zoom knows about the hack and updated their software to recognize it as an illegal device.
is this happening with all effects ?
So installing old version you can unstall last firmware again?
can i use this to update zoom g1x four?
Why you didn't test it? :L
I did. But not in the video. Just wanted spread the message.
Yeah tried this On B1ON and loaded a ton of guitar patches. This is greatest hack ever for a digital pedal. I've been modifying analog pedals which is so much work, compared to this. I now have reverse reverb. Was literally about to purchase used one. Yeah a lot of crappy effects but there a lot of good ones also. The klon clone, reverse reverb and some modulation and are good. Pitch effects and synth sounds bad though. Amp or dirt pedals are hit and miss. But overall super excited, think it's going to stay on my pedal board this time.
i always enjoy watching your videos ;) keep em coming
hello great contribution but I do not play under the effects that I need "zoom A1x four"
but what a good hack I have the G1x four and G5 old
In theory it should work with all ZFX-IV chip zooms
In the G5 I would not use it because of the Z pedal and the bulb, you need to put how to return to normal
The editing in the video was pretty damn good! Thanks for the info and video!
After installing the Distortion effects on my MS-70CDR, I bought an MS-50G too!
Can we use this software for g1xfour?
Great video I want to buy a zoom multistomp on eBay.. but I wonder if the seller has already updated to the 2.0 or 3.0 firmware this hack could still work?
Great hack! But be careful because if you add new effects it means that you actually delete everything else that was on MS-70CDR. I did this and ended up with 10 effects. Not a big deal - I just redid the whole procedure adding everything I wanted to have. So here comes the question: can you actually just add new effects without losing the previous ones?
With the standard effects manager and also with this one that should't be a problem.
This is how I did it: Just select the MS70CDR in the effect filter and press "select all". Now you have all MS70 FX selected. From there, go on deleting the ones you don't like to free up memory. Then select all FX and pick the ones you want to add.
Just want to mentioned that there is a limit on the total number of effects you can load to each pedal. Please read the forum prior to load the firmware.
Hi. Wich pedal have you updated with this tip?
@@SoundCityEstudioPedais ms70cdr.
It must be noted that my Zoom MS70 was at version 2.1 but the "hack" puts it back to version 2.0. And if I reapply version 2.1 I lose the new sounds. Also with version 2.0 the sounds created under version 2.1 do not sound so good.
My MS70CDR is version 2.1 as well and nothing happens when I try to rewrite the firmware this way. The effects I select don't show up, and the ones I deselect aren't deleted from the device. Any ideas? Odd that yours goes back to 2.0. That doesn't happen with mine.
Hey man! Thanks! I've been dreaming about it for years!!!
That display screen looks exactly like the settings display on the Zoom G1on and G1Xon.
All good products. 😎👍
any leads on finding this manager for macs?
also wondering
I fear nobody has found something for Mac so far. :/
Haha contact your local Apple Store they'll be sure to sell you something
Does the page still work. ??
It's a great job, the explanation is very clear (even though I don't speak English). Do you think there might be an easier way to connect an expression pedal to the MS50?
This is really freaking amazing. god bless the interwebz!
Very cool, but can we get a demo of the effects on the zoom vs the real pedals?
This is brilliant! Thank you so much!
I always think ms50g into ms70cdr and vice versa makes a full rig.
Now I wish the mask guy can do some extension usb drive trick so we can expand the memory part then load some IRs!?
My mulit-stomp bass seems to have an issue with the CPU it barely runs two effects on the chain. I need to do an upgrade.
Hi there! Greeting from Panama and thanks for your 'hacked' video. It is so funny. I just got the Zoom MS-70CDR and did exactly what you did. I selected a few effects from the other pedals and so I got them into my unit. However, all of the original patches from my Zoom unit were erased! Fortunately, I got them back updating my firmware again (2.10 version). Is there any way to get other effects without erasing the original pedal patches? Thanks in advance for your reply. Best,
Good to know that you can get it back with firmware update. Thanks.
Do you actually have to update it or can you just leave it be?
Just leave it and it's still a great pedal. It's just for some additional sounds.
that’s amazing thank you .this video is awesome 😃
Cool video, came from
AudioPilz channel
Thank you, Jason. How is my video connected to the AudioPilz Channel? :)
@@berlinshoegazer The zoom MS, yours is pretty cool tutorial.
Amazing bro. It really works. Thank you very much!!!
You are the man Kenneth
Hope this application works for you as well. :)
I have this and I am going to get a second one for the effects that would not fit. All the sounds are quality sounds. Sometimes you have to mix them with others to get the effect that you want or enhance the ones that are in this pedal. I have downloaded the Effects Manager 1.1.1 it works. I have a windows machine and it works perfectly.
I felt like the hacker was gonna go "slap like"... cause that's who it sounds like, with a pitch modulator on his voice, haha.
I don't think this works anymore.Please confirm as I had no luck with Boris.
www.zoomeffectmanager.com is the updated version.
WTF... this is a brave new world opening for my MS70-CDR....
THANK YOU
Thank you Shoegazer! Anyone know of a good tape warble or vinyl simulation available in this set?
Can I do it with g3xn?
Thank you !😃😃👍👍it’s work! i love my ms70cdr hahaha
Kevin shields jesus haha
The link stopped working bro
I could get the MS60B (BASS) Effects, Amps, etc into my MS50G (GUITAR) , but I couldn't edit them in TONELIB Software Editor.
It's a great software editor for editing the native Effects, Amps, etc I love it.
But it wont recognise the Effects, Amps etc from the MS60B when you connect the MS50G as it registers which unit you have connected to it.
My workaround to this is to use the Editor exclusively for the MS50G Presets & manually setup my Bass Presets later.
I have both units but prefer to use the MS50G as you can chain 6 Effects per patch, whereas the MS60B can only do 4.
I'm so glad I did not sell these powerful little Multi's, dragged them out of the cupboard & shook off the cobwebs .... I was that close !
I really think the quality of most of the Effects & Amps are Ballsy & realistic & compare very well with my other bigger Multi-Effects cousins that I own
..... Well Done ZOOM
Thanks a lot for this mate! I was on the verge of buying a MS70-CDR anyway, but this has just made it a must-have now... 🤯
Kindest regards from North Wales dude and thank you once again! 👌👌👌
Greetings...from a fellow north Walian!!!
my zoom stop working, and stop turn on, stop working factory reset, be careful.
I wish they would hack the kemper profiler player :D
thanks for sharing this !
Can you do this with the MS-60B for the guitar effects?
Thanks :)
I tried it and it worked but only for using four fxs at the same time unfortunately.