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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- IN THIS VIDEO:
1) Navigating the menus
2) Connections to a mixer
3) Erasing a preset
4) Making a template for all future effects
5) Designing your first effect from a blank preset
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0:08 = Part 1, connections. Connecting the Zoom to a mixer
4:54 = Mixer connection illustration/chart
4:58 = Part 2, navigation, erasing, template, your first effects design from a blank preset.
We narrow the focus of the Zoom pedal to synthesizer and recording in a stereo field. There has been a lot of confusion over this pedal, this video and the following videos I intend to make, will clear up and demonstrate the power and beauty of this miraculous pedal that anyone can afford to buy! - เพลง
I'm using this. Zoom ms-70cdr Inside my car with the cDs player. Use the effects with the songs I listen to
You must be a master or current/voltage/amperage conversion!
Use an adapter from a company MyVolts 9V in-car Power Supply Adaptor
www.amazon.com/MyVolts-Adaptor-Compatible-EarthQuaker-Devices/dp/B06XWD81ZD
th-cam.com/video/fn7fVgC7djk/w-d-xo.html
That’s kind of crazy but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t super interested in trying this 😂
@@kyju7093 Did you like my idea?
THANK YOU!!!! I’ve been playing synthesizers since the 70’s and just recently started utilizing this pedal. So great to find your tutorials!!! I’ve been trying to wrap my head around this pedals potential and am glad to find concise information about how best to incorporate this into my studio...
You are welcome. I discovered a few years ago with the powerful effects available to synthesizer sound designers, recording synths is half sound design and half effects sound design. We can take simple synths like the MicroBrute and send them far beyond the subtractive realm with effects. FYI: I have 4 tutorial videos so far on the Zoom at (playlist): th-cam.com/play/PLtrj7dkbby8VnbDiiHNKy2ekFPqz0oPlW.html ....will be making more....
Thank you for this in-depth vid of this great pedal, going thru a mixer and added to your synth signal. It’s just want I wanted to do with it but got to see and hear it in practice. And the demo of the workings of the Zoom was very useful too.
You're welcome. Yes, using the Zoom in the effects loop (aux) of the mixer allows you to connect multiple synths to just one effects device and have different levels of that effect on each synth.
Thank you so much. I have this unit. Did not know it’s potential. Thanks to you now I do. Instant sub.
You are welcome. Sound design with effects is a great addition to sound design on the synth!
Awesome tutorial, thanks. Looking forward to coming tutorials. sure subbed
You are welcome. Next will be using delays with a sequence.
This video is really helpful. Nice work Funnzie.
Thank you. I have a series of video's on this Zoom. I hope to do another on building a huge ambient reverb.
You rock! I'm pleased to meet you. Teach a man to fish! I subbed. I'll be watching this entire series tonight. I received my cdr in the mail today. Woohoo!
Thank you. If you are designing sound for synth recording then welcome to the world of effects sound design. You may be discovering how important effects are when using synths in a recording, as I have discovered; sound design on synths are only half the sound and effects the other half. The Zoom will give you years of designers heaven!.
This is so amazingly helpful. Thank you!
You are welcome. I am trying to figure out what the next video on the Zoom should be.
This was immensely helpful, thank you
You are welcome. Now, into deep effects design for your next song.
Amazing tutorial thanks,so important to know just how much and how to open up what this little box of tricks can do 👍
You are welcome. So much for so little money. As long as we don't use the presets from Zoom, we can get some very good effects from this pedal by making our own. The Zoom is even more powerful when used in the aux loop of a mixer, and the mixer sends have pre-fader option for effects.
Very helpful. Thank you!
You are welcome. This is one inexpensive device with limitless possibilities.
Thanks for the amazing tutoria :)
You're very welcome! Have some fun creating sounds your synths can not make!
Many thanks for explaining! The Zoom MS-70CDR is agreat device. And it's also great that it runs hours with two AA batteries! No more cables for this, my Novation Circuit and my Yamaha Reface DX. I also use a passive mixer.
You are welcome. I have more video's on this pedal, please view my playlist.
Uses two AA batteries (3v) but needs a 9v adaptor? wtf?
I have this excellent pedal too, for my volcas and my cz-101. Even the scant volca mix has a mono send out / stereo aux in ! But I already have an Yamaha emp100 in the effects loop, so I bought the ms70 to be used just on one synth. For the sake of convenience, I find useful to load the line select module before the chain. This way I have a sort of send / return inside the ms70, allowing me to mix the dry and wet sound. Sure it's not the same thing than doing this phisically in the mixer, but it helps.
Thanks for sharing!
@@funnzie 💋
I also have volcas and the volca mixer.
I have to be careful with expense and also the size of what fits on the table. I also have the Zoom unit we are talking about.
So according to Funzie's video, is it okay to just use the Volca Mixer with the Ms 70 cdr?
Saves expense on a huge mixer?
The Aux out if often called the FX send, might help some people find it.
Very handy.
Thank you, happy to assist.
13:36 You actually can turn Autosave off! It´s in the settings menu: Press the left button, scroll to Settings and press, scroll to Autosave turn off. Easy!
Regards, S
Yes, thank you. I think I explained in the video you can turn auto-save off. I think I did??? :)
Thanks, this is incredibly helpful. I must admit, I have found this pedal hard to love as it always sounds very flat and takes away the character of my synths, but I route them directly into the pedal. I’m excited to try the FX loop method you use to see if it makes a difference, although I don’t believe that my mixer has an aux send. I couldn’t do this by just sending the synth and the FX to different channels?
Yes, you could "Y" cable from your synth sending a synth only channel to the mixer and another to the Zoom and then to the mixer. Using stereo and mono synths accordingly. I don't know if this will improve the sound you are looking for. The Zoom pedal presets from the factory for synths are awful, it is when you program your own chain of devices within the Zoom that it begins to sound good. Kind of like sound designing on a synth, the better you get at designing the better it will sound. OR, go with presets and buy a BigSky or Eventide Space pedal.
cool
I just purchased a NightSky pedal by Strymon, if not using extremely deep long effects with the Zoom, the Zoom sounds almost as good as the Strymon. And the Zoom is more versatile than the Strymon.
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Thank you. Design your own; DIY effects :)
Very informative. Very knowledgeable sir. How would you recommend I connect Arturia Microfreak to the Zoom and to my scarlett solo sound card? I work in Ableton and my goal is to be able to send midi there. Thank you!
You only have one input for the Scarlette, so imputing stereo is not possible. Not sure why you are using the Zoom effects then. Ableton has its own effects doesn't it? I am not an Ableton user. You can continue to record "wet" with the Zoom CDR, but it will all be in monaural without a stereo image. Not sure what your intended outcome of the final mix on your computer is to be?
@@funnzie I'm pretty new to all this and just yesterday I found out the solo is useless in my case. I am ordering 2i2 today. Thank you
Thanks for making this!
I have a mixer that has a mono aux out, but it doesn't have an fx return. Can I instead run a stereo out from the zoom into the stereo ins of a new channel?
I think so, but it could be dangerous on the return channel because if the send knob of your chosen return channel doesn't remain in the fully off position massive feedback could result and blow out the preamps. If you experiment with this make sure to start with extremely low level input audio and very low fader and aux control knob positions. And low level master faders.
Which synth are you using for this demo? I thought you said "solway" but I can't find any synth by that name. thanks tho, helpful video, i'll be watching the others.
For this video I used the Roland JunoDS (the latest juno in the long line of juno's). For subsequent videos I use different synths.
@@funnzie man I KNEW it was a juno before you said it. That whiny squeak is so recognizable lol
How do you put a line selector at the start of your chain? I can't find it in any of the fx categories.
IF you are referring to the two TS inputs, they are either stereo pair or mono, there isn't an option for two independent mono inputs. And there is only series internal firmware configuration with no algorithm options for parallel and feedback looping.
Great so how do u put efx on the pedal for extra efx from synths damn I wanted to get one too!?
I don't understand, please rephrase. You can always combine the built in effects of a synth with the Zoom effects. There are no rules, experiment and see what it sounds like.
I have a super noob question. When I'm not using the Zoom, it'll power itself off (it's plugged in to a power supply, FYI). Fine, no problems. Is there way to turn it back on? Right now, I just unplug and replug in the power supply to the pedal and it turns back on. Wasn't sure if there was some other way to turn it back on. The manual was less than useful. Thanks!
Yea, no power switch, I use a power strip with a switch to turn them off and on. I do this for all my gear so the power supplies don't run while I am not using them. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PC100A--adj-pc-100a-8-switch-rackmount-power-center
Hi! I have a question - is it possible with this pedal to create two simultanious mono chains and use them separately? Meaning: Input L -> FXs -> Output L and then Input R -> different FXs -> Output R?
I'm looking for that info and cannot find it. It would make a great pre/post FX unit to plug into front of the guitar amp and then separate line into FX Loop. Cheers!
Yes you can. Buy two pedals and use one for left and the other for right. Never thought of this before. This is such an inexpensive pedal compared to the $500.00 Eventide's, BigSky's, and others. I already own three pedals, I may buy a forth for just experimenting with this. A second possibility is to take the output of the right pedal and insert into the left input, and get the feedback modulation that other effects manufacturer offer. CAUTION: we need to check with Zoom to see if this is safe to input the output!!
@@funnzie So it's not possible using just one pedal? Thank you for the response!
Except for the feedback routing. Write to Zoom and find out....
Can you change effects(delay reverb distortion on the go without audio interruption (stop pause play)?
Yes, but there will be some type of glitch when switching between effects and processors completely different from each other.
@@funnzie interesting thank you
The footswitch allows you to turn off an effect in the chain. So you could design one effect in the chain for more than one song or part of the song; and turn off or on an effect in the middle of a song.
I see you're using a send/return loop, but I can't work out how to get just the wet effect from the Zoom? There is a dry on/off switch for a couple of the reverbs, but I can't find how to universally turn it off, or to turn it off for all of them?
The only way I know is to build a preset with no effects, and then switch between your effects chain and the blank preset.
@@funnzie Would that give you just the wet signal with no dry? I'm not sure I understand?
My suggestion above would toggle you from no effects to the effects chain you created. To increase the effect more than the 100% mix the Zoom allows would probably require a mixer like I am using in the videos. The mixer has to have the features I have to make this work. By turning down the main signal of the synth going through the mixer and turning up the effect, you get to a point where only the effect (or about 99%) of the effect is transmitted to the output of the mixer. Whether this is more than the Zoom's 100% mix parameter...I don't know.
Ive got focusrite 8, a volca keys and td 3 and i use them on ableton, i dont have a mixer, how can i use this pedal? Can u help me pls?
If you use the same effects on both the Volca and TD3 then just cable both as a mono into a "Y" adapter and then into the mono input of the Zoom. IF you want different effects or different levels of the same effect for each of your devices you will need two Zoom pedals or a mixer. OR, if you over dub, then the Volca with the Zoom and record a track, then replace the Volca with the TD3 and make a new effect on the Zoom and overdub the second track.
One shilly question , is zoom worth it for synths if your setup is a computer with foul vst's? Also the zoom's bybass works well?
I am 100% DawLess, 100% hardware. I have a computer with Sonar DAW for editing samples, it is 20 years old. I can only guess, but if you are using a DAW the cheapest and best effects will be plug-ins. I use a computer for my business of Graphic Design all the time and for the last 33 years, a computer for art works wonderfully. But I found a computer for making music to be a creative killer.
@@funnzie I'm looking for an excuse to leave the software and deal with hardware, so your reason is enough for me, I have a Roland d50, a Waldorf streichfeet and a 4 Channel cassette yamaha console mt4xg going to interface (not using cassettes, I just love it and to have all the gear ready) the main reason I would like the zoom is because when I do a live session with my roommate I had to put the plugins from the computer on all the channels of the console so the zoom user will be aux send return on the console. anyway I find the zoom excellent as well as your video :)
Yes, the Zoom can be used in your send/return loop of the mixer/cassette. The disadvantage is you can only have one effects setting for all your instruments, though you can have different levels of the same effect on all four channels. With software you can have any effect you want on each channel.
@@funnzieHow can i have 4 different effect in each channel on console using DAW? My stereo out of console goes on two inputs of focusrite so if i make one midi channel of audio track using effects from daw automatically goes to all channels plus if we play live on four channel console in daw is sending one waveform with all channels and no specific each one
Why you put mono aux into zoom instead of stereo? Lot of synths are stereo...
I don't have stereo inputs on my mixer auxiliary loop, just stereo output. Please remember in my mixer configuration with the ZoomCDR the effects are a side chain to the mix, the analog signal from the synth remains in stereo and outputs as stereo from the mixer. The effects loop routing is stereo or mono depending on my effects design on the Zoom, and is then added to the stereo output mixed with the original sound of the stereo synth. So the stereo from the synth is not lost, and can actually be enhanced by a stereo effect from the ZoomCDR.
A mixer with aux buses can be used as a stereo FX send bus. It sounds like @funnzie doesn't have a spare bus to use for that purpose.
@@straighttalk2069 Only if the mixer has auxiliary stereo outputs...most mixers do not. Most mixers are like mine, the effects (auxiliary) loop of the mixer is mono out with stereo returns. It is not necessary to have stereo auxiliary outputs because the main signal from the synth (if stereo) goes through the mixer stereo to the mixers stereo outputs unimpeded.
Hey its the fantom guy incognito. Would know that voice anywhere
Roland Fantom, or Phantom of the Opera? :)
@@funnzie Roland, great videos
Hello funnzie.
Is there any way I can contact you.
I have a further development with the zoom 70 cdr you msy be interested in.
Also want to converse about your videos.
All positive stuff!!
Pete
Please converse through the comment section.
@@funnzie
No worries conversing here.
I bought what I thought was a pristine condition USA made Mackie 1202 vlz.
Something has gone wrong inside and a number of functions do not work ...particularly the send in send out department that I bought it for.
He told me it was 100%.
Waste of my old age pension money.
Some people have no honour .
Anyway I am down to using the Volca Mixer which does an ok job.
The Zoom 70 cdr mod I mentioned is as follows.
I have completely removed the foot switch and those awful rubbery black navigation switches and replaced the foot switch with a nice easily operated finger switch and the navigation switches replaced with better quality momentary switches which are quicker and far more responsive to glide the menus.
I wanted to send you a photo of it but as you wish to be contacted here in the comments section, it is not possible.
You should make a video of your de-and-re-construction. I have never bought used gear, instead I buy open box return gear that has been checked out and still under full manufacture guarantee. You can save the same amount of money as used. Electronic instruments have a age limitation, the electronics get old and the keybeds break down. I never assume an instrument or device will last more than 10 years.
@@funnzie
It was MY BAD!!!
The mixer works perfectly.
I made the mistake of pressing down the " pre fader solo buttons" which set a red light flashing as I thought that was what is supposed to happen.
Of course pressing these buttons down disable three other knobs.
I did not know that.
I feel quite stupid and gave the seller some stick.
I have apologized and he has sympathized with my mistake.
Yes..I have some revolutionary facts now about the Zoom 70 cdr which many have not thought about.
I will do a video on it and my modification to it.
In order to listen to every permutation of up to five effects combined to one of the 68 effects for one second it will take 47 years as there are just over 1.5 BILLION permutations.
Even little consumer mixers take time to understand. There are no signal flow indicators on the hardware, and unlikely in the manual. Mackie uses a 4 buss system (two stereo) on their VLZs, the mute switch in each channel sends the signal out an alternate output. Mackie's are big on unity gain for gain staging and attempt to have a signal flow level of 0db. Recording engineering is a high skilled craft, not to be discounted. Yes everyone has a recording studio in their bedrooms today, but each one still requires the same amount of time and experience to become good at it, or even function at it to get the job done. Getting the job done is one thing, getting the job done with high quality results so the listener doesn't cringe in pain when listening is another. Fortunately most listeners do not have trained ears/brain and are not audiophiles with great stereo equipment, so if it sounds good to you the bedroom engineer, it will sound good to at least 90% of your audience.
Unfortunately enough, my mixer has a mono return... : (
You can connect directly to you synth instead, at least for now.
I'm hearing phase/comb filtering. Effects on a send need to be 100% wet...something I don't believe this pedal can do. And I can easily hear it.
Perhaps we need to test the pedal without the send/return loop of a mixer. There are many videos of the Zoom pedal on TH-cam, almost all, without the mixer. The mixer setting for this tutorial was unity gain, 50% dry signal, 50% wet, pre-fader.
@@funnzie 100% wet would have been the way to go. Oh, well...still useful videos!
Best to see the 4 videos I have currently on the Zoom pedal series. But you can skip to this on to hear what nearly 100% wet via the mixer setting sounds like: th-cam.com/video/IU5wvG4ttLI/w-d-xo.html
Hi Funnzie.
Can I use my Volca mixer? Or what model of Mackie mixer woukd you suggest that could mix say three volcas?....in conjunction with the Zoom ms70 cdr of course?
Yes*. You will need very specific cables to make this work since the Volca uses 1/8 inch cables. The [SEND OUT] cable will use a 1/8 inch TS connector on one end and a 1/4 inch TS connector on the other end. The [SEND OUT] connects the send output to the Zoom mono input on the right of the Zoom. Then you will need another cable for the [AUX IN], it will be a "Y" splitter cable with one 1/8 inch TRS connector at one end and at the other end two 1/4 inch TS connectors. This will give you the stereo send and return (aux in) so you will get stereo effects from the Zoom. Once the cables are connected, you will use the [SEND] knobs to control the amount of effects for each Volca. *** I am only guessing this will function, the Volca Mix unit does not have any control for the return to the mix. Levels may too weak or too strong from the Zoom, which means you will have to make this level disparity up in each module you use on the Zoom. Even then it may not work. I can only guarantee this will work on the Mackie Mixer I use in my video. You will also need to record in stereo to make it all work too, if you are using stereo effects.
@@funnzie
Thank you si much for your comprehensive reply.
It seems that the Volca Mixer is a bit iffy and sub standard to what we want.
Ok ...I will buy a Mackie .
What is the exact model you use and then I can be sure.
Otherwise say I wanted to control a max of four synths, which modern day Mackie mixer will be correct and have the specs you have suggested?
I have bought the wrong kit before and I don't want to waste money doing it again.
I hope you understand.
Thanks again for your time.
I am using the: Mackie 802VLZ4 8-channel Analog Mixer. A mixer capable of mixing four stereo synths or 4 mono (monaural, one single output) synths. Example: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/802VLZ4--mackie-802vlz4-8-channel-mixer Once connected to the ZoomCDR pedal you can control the level (wet/dry) of effects for each of the synths.
You could have as many as 8 monaural (mono) synths connected to the Mackie mixer, but 6 of those synths would share the stereo channels which means, for example: the two synths on 7+8 channel would be hard panned left and right. But the balance control could pan both synths anywhere in the left or right stereo field.
You can only use one ZoomCDR effect for all the synths, but have different levels for each of them make this work well instead of buying a pedal for each synth. The cost of the mixer is equal to buying 2 more ZoomCDR pedals with power supplies, so you must decide what you own studio requires and what your intentions are.
So if you already own the Korg Volca mixer, then for the same cost of the Mackie mixer you can have 3 of your synths all with their own ZoomCDR pedals and each pedal can have totally different effects. Three Zoom pedals for three of your synths, the forth synth would have no effects. But with a Y cable into the input of the Zoom you may (not sure) be able to share a pedal with that fourth synth (depends on how the Zoom may handle two synths combined).
I did not see any panning on the Korg mixer, is that true? IF true you are really missing out in creating a stereo field of your synths and I (personally) would by the Mackie mixer. But is all depends on what you want to hear on your song mixed down to that final two track stereo master.
Sorry for the long explanation but with a mixer as versatile as the Mackie you have just entered into audio engineering and stereo field mixing/EQ/effects skills, and all the skills of recording that takes years to learn and train your ears/brain for. It is a highly skilled profession just as a concert pianist, and your results of your finished recorded song will be a combination of your skills, equipment, and quality level of your equipment.
It is a tough decision! But welcome to audio engineering and effects design anyway. :)? :(?
@@funnzie
Hi Funnzie. Thank you for your valuable time and explanation.
The Volca mixer does not have panning.
I have bought a pristine condition Mackie 1202 VLZ mixer. It is all metal construction, made in USA so one of the old ones that I very much like the look of.
I paid 300 Australian dollars for it.
After listening and looking at your tutorials I have delved further into the zoom 70 CDR pedal.
I have discovered an entire pdf file containing all 68 effects programmed into the unit.
I have had it printed out on 26 pages.
To my amazement there are effects there modelled on very well known ( and expensive) pedals like TC electronics and Strymon to name a few.
I am slowly learning from your video tutorials.
I had no idea this pedal was so powerful and exactly what can be done with it.
Like arrange the effects to your liking ( and order) and also to suit the piece.
I still do not know why a guitar pedal is not suited for synths. I am guessing that they cannot deal with the low decibal range synths can get to?
On the high frequencies it just doesnt matter as because of my old age hearing loss I do not hear them anyway.
My Mackie mixer is on the way in the post.
That mixer should work fine for you. It has two effects loops, so you can run two ZoomCDR's with different effects on this mixer and apply the two effects to all the synths connected with different levels of effects or combination of effects between the two Zoom pedals. Lots more options with that second effects auxiliary loop. The most important addition for you is now you can pan your synths in the stereo field. If you are using mono Volca synths, this panning will open up your recordings to a new world of stereo.
Anyone else hearing a high pitch ringing noise over the audio?
It is my refrigerator. I live and work in 200sf of space, and just one room.
You Do Not say what instrument u r using , it soiunds like there is a chorus on it as well.
JunoDS.
Using a mixer aux send is not the best way to go at all for synths that have a true stereo out and are sending a nice stereo image. The mixer will sum the stereo outs and the aux send is only mono so you will loose all the stereo imaging a synth may have to offer. You are much better off feeding stereo synths direct to the pedal. That way their stereo imaging is maintained in the pedal while the stereo effects are added. A synth like the Roland JD800 for example should NEVER be summed into mono. It is such a waste. Also the dry signal can be removed in this pedal but only for some of the algorithms, not all. So you have got the issue of the dry signal being sent to the mixer output (Unless you use it pre fader) as well as the dry signal coming out and being returned and hence creating the comb filter effect which is undesirable. Aux sends and returns should only really be used with effects devices that can remove the dry signal completely. In fact with stereo synths you need to patch them to two inputs on the mixer and use 2 aux sends to a true stereo effects unit (rack mount) and then return only the effects in stereo back to the mixer. This pedal while amazing is not really a side chain effect device. It is really meant to be used in series with a stereo source.
I don't think you understand mixers or are using some strange old monaural mixer. Today every mixer I can think of are stereo, providing stereo input channels and mono. If all you have are mono channels then a hard pan left/right on two mono channels yields a two channel stereo. Yes, it would be nice to have stereo outputs on the aux sends, but I can't tell the difference because of the stereo returns and the main dry source remains stereo. I also always use the aux in pre-fader mode so I can turn up the aux return and turn down the fader keeping the mixer is unity gain and eliminating the dry signal by 95%; I have a video on this process: th-cam.com/video/IU5wvG4ttLI/w-d-xo.html . IF I had unlimited income I would have a ZoomCDR for every synth I own, but since I own 13 synth/groove box/sampler devices, it would cost me about 2,500.00 dollars. So in the aux loop of the mixer and with just one ZoomCDR, I can feed different levels of the same effect to many synths at the same time. I currently have three ZoomCDRs on my mixer giving 3 separate effects available for all synths and any level for all synths. Plus, half the synths sold are very low level and need a lot of gain, by going through the mixer this gain can be provided so my recorder pre-amps don't have to do all the work. Plus I like the sound of my Mackie VLZ mixers, they soften the harshness of my digital synths and hold the valuable tone of my analog synths.
I am a very concerned about my stereo field of my recorded songs, the stereo field is so important that I rarely use effects to create stereo fields for my monaural synths, instead choosing to layer synths for one patch that contains a true stereo field, and then enhance in the effects. Maybe because I am using true stereo fields from my synth sound designs such as the Roland Gaia provides panning of each of the 3 oscillators, or a Korg Minilogue layered with a digital synth with the Minilogue as center and right/left from two layers of a digital synth. Because of this I have very strong controlled stereo fields before effects are applied.
Applying mono input effects with stereo imaging returned to the mixer, mixed with strong stereo synth at the mixer gives me all the control I need to control the field. Stereo synths at the mixer with mono reverb/delay remain strong stereo signals at the mixer outputs, and stereo effects returned from a mono effects input only enhance the stereo image if the effects design is done properly.
@@funnzie I do understand mixers very well. You still have not explained the fact that Ok you may be using two mono channels or a stereo channel on the mixer but in order to avoid the comb filtering effect you cannot use the mixer faders AND the return of the pedal at the same time. The pedal dry signal will be delayed slightly due to the A to D and D to A conversion that takes place. So I am assuming you are turning down the mixer faders in order to avoid it. Then the original stereo synth information is lost. If you do use the mixer faders, you are right and the original stereo information is maintained but the dry signal is also present in the stereo returns and the comb filter effect may apply. You can remove the dry signal in some of the effects algorithms in the pedal but not all. Also some of the pedal algorithms actually sum the stereo signal and others don't as well. So tell me, are you using the mixer channel faders feeding the main mixer outs and the pedal returns at the same time. Because that is not a great way to do it if you are.
I guess it could work if you get the balance right between these two sources. Like keep the channel faders down enough to just minimise any comb filtering but still keep the synth stereo image present. Did you also know that mixers actually behave quite differently in terms of what happens when you patch a stereo synth or source eg two jacks into a single stereo line input. On my Midas mixer the Aux 1 send only sends the left channel of those two inputs to the effect. (it has 2 Aux sends and Aux 2 sends the right channel) On my Samson mixer though the Aux 1 send sends both the L and R inputs summed to the effect. Not sure how Mackie does it but you need to use a signal generator to find out. Also make sure you have got two jacks inserted when you do this test. Start with the sig gen in the L input and a jack in the R input. Turn up Aux 1 send and observe what comes out. A signal usually. Then swap the sig gen to the R channel and the jack in the L channel. Turning up Aux 1 may or may not send a signal. Using two mono channels (panned) avoids this if the Aux 1 send is only on one channel wit the stereo line inputs.
I just began using the Zoom in my synth compositions, so I have a few posted. Go to this jam and listen for the first few minutes then skip ahead to 5:00 for a big stereo field with the effects. It sounds good to me, but all my equipment is like the ZoomCDR, very very cheap and I do the best I can while living in the extremes of poverty. th-cam.com/video/3JuQud7w5R8/w-d-xo.html
The menu is a disaster
I don't understand your comment.
@@funnzie Do you want me to spell it out??
Yes.
Nederlands
The land of bicycles and music meets my channel of bicycles and music :)
@@funnzie great! your English accent sounds Dutch to my ear. I am a student of phonetics.
Almost. My father comes from dutch ancestors, my mother was born in Germany, I was born in the States.
@@funnzieLand of tulips and windmills too. 😉
Damn my mixer doesn't have stereo returns...but I'm glad I saw this video before I bought this thing... plugging it in to a synth directly doesn't seem to work... the effect will work, but switching the pedal off doesn't result in the clean sound, the pedal seems to distort the synths sound when off if you patch in directly.
It could be there isn't a true bypass of the analog signal coming in, that would mean when the pedal is off, it is still doing the conversions ADC and DAC.