Tesla Model S used buyer’s guide & review - It was a pioneer but is it good used? / Electrifying
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The Model S could be considered to be one of the most significant cars of this century. Tesla came from almost nowhere to create a car that made electric vehicles truly desirable. The Model S answered every criticism - it was fast, could go hundreds of miles without stopping, could be charged quickly, had more space than rivals and looked pretty good too.
It sparked a true revolution back in 2014, but does it make a good used buy now? Tom Ford finds out.
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Bought a 2013 S85 from Tesla in 2015. It’s been the best car we’ve ever owned. My wife loves the smooth ride and large storage capacity. Not a squeak or rattle after 8.5 years and 145000km. Still chargers to 95% original range and supercharges at 90kW peak like it did when new.
Wow. That’s amazing, do you plan to keep it for the next 5 years or so?
It is comments like these that is ultimately going to turn people away from Teslas. No one with any sense would believe such a claim about any car.
@@kratosdisciple4637 😅 it does seem unbelievable!
@@akubel33t No it does not. Everything he says is totally accurate to the experience of those cars.
@@kratosdisciple4637 He is telling the truth he claims nothing beyond what the cars do.
Great video, Tom.
When you talk about things like tax advantages (9:03), it'd be great to see a popup link on the screen to that video.
So happy you guys are doing vids on second hand EVs. It's a huge emerging market.
Great review and agree with most of it. As mentioned in other comments the free supercharging is for the life of the car. I have owned a 2015 model S for three years now. I commute twice a month from Bournemouth to Luxembourg. A 1000 mile round trip. Clocked up around 70000 miles in the three years almost cost free apart from tyres. The lane assist type autopilot is perfectly adequate for my needs and makes for an extremely relaxing drive. My previous car was a Mercedes CL63 AMG, nice ride but cost around £800 per month in fuel, I had to pull into the services to change audiobooks/CDs and it finally cost me over £3000 following a breakdown which was a broken fan belt which took out a load of other parts. No comparison 👍
Great vid! Awesome information…I’m looking now for either and S or an X. Do you have a video on the used X?
I had a reservation about 2 years ago for the M3 and because of continuous delays, I was suggested to look at a used Model S on the Tesla site. I found a 2016 75 for about the same price as discussed in the video. Mine has Enhanced Autopilot, premium interior with the nice alcantara on the dash, sliding sunroof and premium sound. I was lucky as well that mine was the Melbourne dealership service car with about 12000km on it. So officially I’m the first owner. Also good to know is that Tesla Australia locks their service cars in Chill mode 😀, so the chances of being thrashed is minimal. I was also fortunate to get 4 years 80kkm warranty on the car and the remainder of 8 years on the drivetrain. I had a few issues. Door handles, noisy boot strut, noisy front suspension, 12v died too. But everything was done under warranty either at home or at the dealership. Best part is that I’ve got free supercharging as well, although it’s been throttled back a bit now. My final advice it to always buy from Tesla, or if you must, a legit EV dealership like Richard Symons.
You had the sense to buy the best.
@@andrewcumming4018 thanks Andrew. I spent just over $80k for a 1 year old car that cost $150k when new. Delivered as new. Gone are those days. But I'd still go for one with my next purchase. Probably a used Model 3 Performance 😁
In the US, the current prices of used Model S’, as of June 2022, are outrageous! I bought the “cheapest” used 2017 Model S 100D, 70k miles with Full Self Driving, Premium, unlimited connectivity, etc. for $58k + dealer fees + tax (65k in total). Still needed the MCU2 upgrade. The rest is, well, absolutely brilliant! Is it worth it? Considering the current cost of 92 Octane at $5.50 in the Midwest of the US, the cost difference to drive my BMW X4 for 50 miles, vs the Model S, is approx. $9.50. The X4, at 24 mpg and just shy of $11 for that distance, compares to the charging cost of the Model S at $1.24 (per TeslaFi) for the same distance. Wear and tear, deferred maintenance cost, etc. and the Tesla is the clear winner on the cost side of things. We won’t talk about amortization, though. I hope to have the Model S for the next..well…200k miles for the expense to even remotely make sense.
i checked the insurance of a Model S P85, i almost had an heart attack! half-insured was €230 per month! fully insured (in case someone for example scratch your or whatever) i had to pay €4900 per month... that's just insane! when i had my 97 Skyline GTR V-Spec i paid €100/month with full insurance...
This is as educational as it gets. Thanks Tom
Excellent video. Clear, concise, informative, entertaining, no BS conjecture...Thank you!
I’m not a huge fan of the Model S interior. Anyone know what year Tesla update their interior in the UK? Especially with the landscape screen?
Thank u very much I was looking for a way to buy an ev but was skeptical where to get it
Get your facts right Tom . . Tesla remove the free supercharging but if you buy a car private or from an independent dealer then it stays on cars built before April 2016. My 2015 has had 4 owners and free supercharging.
Hi I’m looking at getting a 2015 do you not worry about what happens after the 8 year warranty runs out?
@@sko1beer Nope, not really. . Same chance you take with any other car.
@@sheldonv8 thanks
I believe the 40 was a software locked 60 but I don't think that was ever released here. It was just in the States and it didn't sell well. There has never been an 80 as far as I'm aware
This one after the 2016 facelift for sure is good nowadays. But I would be extra picky about those from pre-facelift era.
The biggest lifting happened between 2014 and 2015. Before that, it's probably not a good idea - terrible seats, no autopilot, generally bad quality, and questionable reliability. But the 2015-2016 era is also perfectly fine. It's the same car, just different looks and fewer cameras (which doesn't change much in Europe).
Tesla ranger came to me to replace 12v battery. No fixes otherwise. I upgraded my S 2015 MMC unit though original MMC was OK awaiting recall fix. Upgrade made driving it better since screen response is notably quicker. If car needs serious service, it's still likely to be worth fixing if it can be done right. Especially true if compared to 10 year old luxury ICEVs.
What you think about model s 85 with 450000km is it worth it, it has new battery, asking 35000€?
Excellent clear explanation’s thanks
Just to clarify about the free supercharging......I bought my Model S second hand and the free supercharging passed onto me via the car. If I ever sell it privately, the new owner will benefit from the free supercharging. However, if I was to part exchange it via Tesla, then they would remove the free supercharging from the car before selling it onwards. This means privately traded Model S cars up to 2017 will maintain the benefit and the value. I save £6,000 a year against a petrol equivalent.
Do the older ones still come with lifetime free supercharger use?
Yes they do. If it was never sold through teslas used car Department. Because they will remove it.
Some will have - it if it's not been sold by Tesla.
8:06 It's only for the original purchaser and you won't see it second hand.
Yes as long as you don't buy it from Tesla. . They remove it and AP aswell.
@@jackfadell8848 i‘m sry but that is not correkt. If it is privatly sold it remains with the car
Just bought a used 2014 MS85, free supercharging for life of the car, even as second owner.
So why did he say it’s only for the first owner?
@@brickcity9824 he must have misspoken. Older Model S’s like my 2014 have it for the life of the vehicle.
If Tesla have ever had the car through their network then they will take the free supercharging off. Rsev explained it throughly in their guide.
Meh, it's well and good if you can afford to buy used direct from Tesla but most will rely on used sales from private sellers or auto trader. One major thing you didn't cover fully was the battery and drive unit warranty. If I was to buy a used model S from a private seller which has done over 150,000 miles and is over 8 years old and 6 months later the battery fails or the drive unit that is gonna be a major blow. The price to sort it out would cost more than the purchase price if the car was around 35k to 25k. Tesla don't offer their own extended battery and drive unit warranty on their cars either after 150k miles or 8 years which ever comes first. This will be a big problem in the coming years no one will wanna risk buying an expensive electric car out of warranty when the battery or drive unit fails, it's not like they can pop down to the local mechanic and have a cheap new battery installed. I will wait until the model S drops even more in price or wait the 8 years on the older ones and or wait for third party insurance companies where you can take out an extended warranty on the battery and drive train unit for peace of mind.
I know this is an old video but plenty of sub £30k models a around in UK now. I own a 22 e2008 and it’s going January for a p90d hopefully! Would get almost twice the miles and twice as much car for less money.
How do i contact you to buy a used car
Sigh.. a P90D with nearly 350 miles of range.. you’re talking the outdated NEDC testing not the WLTP we now use so you can knock 1/3 off the figure you quote. New model s aren’t actually available in the uk, delivery is sometime next year. Tesla never did an 80…I gave up watching at that point..
What breaks and what does it cost to fix? It’s important to know but not mentioned here. I’ve heard repairs costs are outrageous. With only pros and no cons this looks more like and advertisement.
This video is very helpful
I believe that government grants are available in Scotland for used cars
Only interest free loans, £28k for a new ev and £20k for 2nd hand.
Confused about free supercharging for life as many in the uk ARE advertised to come with it
So tempted but we got a new BMW i3s as the deal was fantastic 😊 and around town can't be better I think but the S Tesla is cool
Can't call that car mint build quality when I can see the panel cap on my phone between the 2 doors 5:52 at the B pillar and the passenger door is lower than the rear door
I love the Model S 😍
The supercharge info is inaccurate. I bought second hand, it has free supercharging. You’ll find second hand cars have transferable free supercharging, provided they have never been traded in to Tesla. If traded in tonTesla at any time, they remove this benefit. Great video btw adore my model S, recently went from Poole in Dorset to Liverpool absolutely free 😃
Isn't it 120 thousand miles on battery and motors , or 8 years Whichever comes 1st.
The repair / parts costs of a used Model S are absolutely crippling - I owned one for about 5 years!!
Did you buy it used or new ? Also which year, just curious
I've been looking for someone who knows what he's talking about for ages. I'm thinking about getting a 2015 Model S, can you provide some insight into what breaks often, and how much it costs to repair?
Beware, No CCS.
like every luxury car, fixing and servicing it out of warranty requires luxury wallets
had my Lexus ISF for 3 years now - it is a 2011 - so a 10 yr old car - with 415hp nothing, nothing has gone wrong on it.
There is no service schedule on EV's, even the brakes rarely need changing as they don't get used often (Tesla have a rust removing option). So, no, in general all EV's have little service cost outside tires. Fixing is the expensive part like with all luxury cars, but now the problems are ironed out (door handles for the S), if you can afford to insure it you can afford to fix it.
@@Tom55data yeah, right. ev never break down! Teslabjorn had to pay 3k out of his pocket to replace the front shocks of his model x
@@USUG0 Yep, I and have a bill for £800 for a new cam belt. Welcome to car ownership - if you can't afford don't buy a car. Statistically - in general - EV's are much cheaper to service and maintain than ICE cars, just because you have a friend that has a big bill, so does everyone else.
I have an EV and PHEV, so maybe I am a better position than someone that read some oil company agenda document.
@@Tom55data if you actually read and understood my comment, I simply stated that replacement parts for luxury cars are expensive, and the reasons why most people don't buy used mercedes s class, apply as well to tesla model s
Oh well, the one that is in the video is not 35k so you can t get a model s like that for under 50 k
Not quite correct about free supercharging - if the car has not been sold second-hand by Tesla the 'for life' does stay with the car. But some sellers might be mistakenly listing free when it isn't
The other thing you need to check is whether it has been an insurance write-off. Tesla can remove any Supercharging facility from cars that have not been repaired by them at any time.
A superb review, but having to wait for another weak joke, would be a fortnight!
Did you say Frunk?
What an extraordinarily badly researched video. Model year 16 and previous have transferable supercharging if sold privately, but not from Tesla. Rear drive units are also prone to failure in earlier models.
Wrong info in this review.
Over priced and that touch screen is far too big when driving, as to check it, you need to take your eyes off the road, unless you know where everything is precisely located. No I would not buy one - not even 2nd hand.
Beaware of the 85 pack. Tesla secretly without informing owners have reduced the capacity of the car in 2019 as a over the air update. Also the supercharging speed of these are terribly slow, again restricted by tesla. Not worth the money for a 85 pack.
"in it's short life" - it's pushing a decade.
Very expensive car Great car but for few! As all tesla! They are extremely expensive
Tesla started a cult, not a revolution. 😂