I would add Ludwig and…Rom. Yes, Rom, vacuous spider. She is Atlas of Bloodborne, as she tried to keep world safe from blood moon ritual. Also Sir Alonne, because he helped weak king with his service and trained his knights, who still respect him as they protect him, and after witnessing corruption of his king, he left him Lorian Elder Prince is also a hero, as he killed Demon Prince who could restore Chaos Flame and protected his younger brother and shared a curse with him. Also Lady Tomoe from Sekiro, because obvious reasons.
Sir Alonne and Fume Knight. Also Burnt Ivory King has the best intro scene in the entire souls series rivaled may with Nameless King. The way the gate rises above and he starts sprinting towards you like he has a score to settle. Pretty much the same with Nameless King in his second phase when he starts walking towards you menacingly. I wish they hadn't made the rest of the game so hard and frustrating.
Great video, but personally, I think Miquella would have fit in the list. First, he's an extremely powerful demi-god, a master magician (he invented multiple powerful golden order funtamentalist incantations) and a talented craftsman (he created works of art such as Malenia's prosthesis, the pulley crossbow, which is the most powerful crossbow in the game btw, the Golden Epitaph, and the unalloyed gold needles that are so powerful that they can ward off Outer Gods' meddling, and even cure it, and also). He's even revered as another deity, St.Trina, who controls potent sleep magic capable of charming even bosses. But most importantly, he is kind of the embodiment of kindness and benevolence in my opinion, but it seems like in the DLC we'll learn about a darker side of his character... But yeah in the meantime he's like the most compelling character in all of Elden Ring (apart from Alexander and Boc, obviously). Even then, out of all the shardbearers, Miquella and Malenia are the ones with the best intentions and actions : Godrick hunts and grafts people in a pointless search for power, Morgott clings to a dying order of racist enslavers, Rennala is... Rennala, Ranni literally caused the end of the world, and Mogh is a disgusting freak. So in comparison, even if Miquella is kind of shady, or if he uses peole or whatever, I think I'd still root for him since he offers a safe haven to all those rejected and forsaken by the Golden Order, and strives to find a cure to his twin sister's condition and also bring peace to his older brother Godwin (the golden epitaph reads : "Oh Brother, Lord Brother, please die a true death")... And even as St.Trina, he brings respite and peaceful dreams to the suffering and the tormented, even quelling the nightmares brought by the flame of frenzy (but I think that's cut content). Not to mention he is probably the one who helps us the most during our adventure : I believe he is Torrent's former master, and as such, he's the one who told Melina to give us the spectral ring whistle (that he created, since it's made out of unalloyed gold, and is also the work of a great craftsman), and he's also the one who sent Ranni to give us the spirit calling bell (evidenced by the fact that Miquella has a strong connection to spirits, since he's Torrent former master, and also by by the fact that when Ranni appears in the church of Elleh, Kalé and his dokey are put to sleep with St.Trina's magic, who is quasi-confirmed to be Miquella's alter-ego). Anyway I can't wait for the DLC and sorry for the long post. :)
You forgot Sieglinde, who bested most areas of ds1 despite not being Undead, all just to save her father from himself, before having to kill him to save his leagacy.
I mean he's that good of a king a literal shard of manus deeply falls in love with him and mourns his passing, keeping his legacy alive and protecting the world from the old chaos. All the other shards succeeded in overtaking and destroyed their kingdom and kings, alsanna did the exact opposite. Best and most tragic couple in souls, wish they got reunited in the end
@@thex6992I mean, Queen Elana didn’t seem like she was evil from what we get from her past. She seemed absolutely furious that her homeland was destroyed because of another’s greed. I don’t really blame her if she’s become hostile to anyone who has come after Sinh, seeing what happened last time.
@@thex6992not only that, in dark souls 3 the demon race and old chaos was severely weakened at that point and was almost extinct. The ivory king and alsanna practically succeeded in preventing chaos from overtaking the world.
It's my Headcanon that Artorius' soul, whether you use it or give it away, empowers you to fight Manus, and that Artorius' soul forms a sort of Aura around you (yes almost like a Stand) to give you that extra little umph you need to beat Manus. Also, can we just appreciate how much of a bada** Ivory King is? The literal definition of "they had to jump me to have a chance" in every single situation. Oh, you're a shard of pure evil that corrupts everything? Here's unconditional love and support. Oh, you're a decades old evil that gods were scared of? Square up. Oh, I'm slowly losing my strength while this chaotic evil is getting stronger? You don't come out until I say so.
Siegward of Catarina will always be, not just my favorite onion, but hero of the DS series. An unkindled who's name apparently means guardian, he goes about protecting people, being a light of cheer in the most depressing of the three Dark Souls, and NOT ONLY befriending the lone giant Yhorm, but keeping his promise to slay him when he loses his senses! He is, by his own words he uses for you, a true friend. His valor and cheer will always be my favorite, and watching him charge in against a demon, or walk right up to Yhorm with his vow, will always show me his true, heroic spirit! Long may the sun shine!! 🍻
I loved him in DS3. At first I was just like 'oh he's like the ds 1 guy he's just gonna sit around and muse about how to get past something while I actually go and do it.' But then he sprang into action to actually help me fight a demon and from there he had my attention.
I'm going to die on this hill but ivory king is by far one of the best characters ever presented by fromsoft, literal hero with immense power capable of defeating characters like nameless king or soul of cinder ( by lore)
Wait isn’t soul of cinder a representation of every one who lit the flame? Which would include the player from DS2, the guy that defeated the Ivory king.
Ivory King can never beat Nameless King or Soul of Cinder. Nameless King is a god who still has most if not all of his strength. He himself is only a bit below Gwyn who still has his Lordsoul (aka the strongest being in the series). Soul of Cinder is the amalgamation of everyone who has ever linked the flame, this includes Bearer of the Curse, who did beat Ivory King
it is a bit of a crime that he wasn't included on this list. I'd go as far as to say that the story Elden Ring is literally just Radahn is the GOAT: The Video Game
If you love something, let it go - Leonard the horse was suffering immeasurably from his treatment and while he's lost his mind, you clearly see in Radahn's animations that he physically abuses the horse in his attacks. It was a sweet thing that went too far. Also technically he learned gravity magic from an alien from space anyway
@@bajscast The path to hell is paved with good intentions, as they say. The point is, before he lost his mind entirely, he was a noble and kind warrior. And if Artorias can make the list, and his only in-game appearance is just as mindless as main-game Rahdan, surely our boy Rahdan should have too.
Bit of misinfo, Gael went hollow upon realizing he had the dark soul. Hence how in his second phase he takes more damage from fire and the hollowslayer greatsword
You didn't need to hit me in the heart with the unused Artorias dialogue. That was unecessary. Now I gotta wipe my tears. Also, I think the Ivory King is the most heroic character in Fromsoft, built his kingdom ontop of hell itself, and his throne room stood at its gates just so that he could be the very first line of defense against chaos. He was both kind to his people and always led the charge in battle, even sacrificing himself to save the kingdom and fighting to the last against chaos, and actually winning even if his soul was ultimately consumed. In a world of false prophecies, greed, and lies, the Ivory King stands above it all as the greatest hero.
I didn’t see it mentioned here, but if you collect all the knights and let Alsanna pass on she mentions he probably knew who she was. Ivory King willingly let the shard of Manus in while also being the only king who didn’t fall to it.
Y'know, one thing that I respect about The Ivory King is that when his wife revealed that she's one of the Manus' descendant, he simply said "I already know about your origin, but I don't care, I still love you", talk about loving husband... Also the DLC offers one of my favorite weapon (Loyce Greatsword), it literally the most beautiful weapon I've seen and I think it's worth the struggle (goddamn ponies with their lightning)
Finlay from Elden is a neat one. She carried her leader from Caelid all the way to the tree. If she took the conventional route we took, she'd have to go around Stormveil, near the swamp, to LEYNDELL, all the way to the land of the giants before making it to the tree. MVP
I’m sorry but finlay is the most heroic individual in the series when her heroic act is put into perspective. Finlay walked through the swamp of aeonia, limgrave, liurnia, dectus lift, part of Altus, leyndell, forbidden lands, and consecrated snowfield while carrying a sleeping Malenia and fending off enemies of all kind while also likely inflicted with rot. Also it’s possible that she didn’t take dectus and instead took ruin strewn precipice which means she went through even more of Altus. Remeber this took place during the shattering, in a time where anyone would see a sleeping demigod and would attack and try to kill the demigod and Finlay fought ALL of them off single handedly. Imagine walking through the whole map with scarlet rot, no torrent, no running, no fast travel, no flask or incants that cure rot, and enemy agro increased. That experience would be what Finlay went through
Gwyndolin is a fascinating character to discuss. On the one hand, he is the rejected son of Gwyn, but also the last deity to keep watch over Anor Londo. On the other hand... he's a deceiver, a manipulator, and a defender of Gwyn's curse of the Darksign. I consider him equal parts hero and villain.
We could say Aldia is in someway also a hero. His whole mission was to break the curse, and he failed. He still tried to break the curse even as a immortal head. He did some fcked up shit but it was not with bad intentions. He maybe not the purest soul but not one of the evil either
not true mate, most villain kill for the greater good, but they still massacre a lot of people. aldia just want to overcome death and hollowing. he wish to rid himself of the curse, not for others but for him. he's a mad scientist.
Great video, i got a surge of goosebumps with each little story And that art of Morgott at the start of his segment is awesome. I love the idea of using his great rune as a halo
Ya that’s also what I heard. I feel like it make more sense too, having nameless king actually being on the king of the gods and getting banish by lesser gods dosen’t seam right to me. Your telling me that the strongest god, actual heir to the throne and whit a personal army which is loyal to him, this guy’s whit everything to win got kick out because of one unpopular decision. I don’t believe it
He left his ring on his father's coffin as farewell. If Gwyn exiled him: 1) why wouldn't NK give it to him directly as a statement? 2) Why would Gwyn already have a coffin when he wasn't planning to go away yet?
@@kamprouristheoharis8458 the description of the sunlight blade from DS1. I misremembered it as the ring. "When the eldest son was stripped of his deific status, he left this on his father's coffin, perhaps as a final farewell."
Shame Radahn didn't make the list. He saved the cities of Caelid and protected the world from the powers of the Outer Gods by holding back the stars themselves. He was the opposite of Morgott, he wanted to become Lord and help the realm and its people. Even after becoming a mindless monster, he kept the stars at bay. He was a true hero.
It’s worth mentioning that the story of the abysswalker was a lie created by ciaran. It is said that artorias destroyed the abyss and manus, repelled the dark wraiths of new londo. When in actuality, you did that.
We only did the first thing, there's no evidence that your time in New Londo is set in the past. So while he didn't kill Manus, there's no evidence Artorias didn't repel the dark wraiths long enough for New Londo to be flooded
Not a """"true"""" soul games but Bloodborne has a lot of chill people for such a dark game The first that comes to mind is Eileen, and she only turns mad because of someone that isn't out of control, she just needs one good friend (us) to stay sane. Hell, taking the risk of going mad to save many is pretty heroic Gherman, Maria and Logarius locked themselves up to either protect a dangerous secret or give guidance Valtr is a cool guy too. He isn't completely sane but he fights for a good cause and is mostly a positive entity. He is also a hero to all Str/Arcane players that want an early Holy Moonlight Sword :)) And of course, the original Iosefka
Slave Knight Gael easily takes the cake for the sheer scale of his undertaking, and one of the few hero's who succeed completely, if the hints are true, the dark souls pigment world is free from the failings of the Dark Souls world.
"Aah, you were at my side, all along." Picks up swords "My true mentor... My guiding moonlight..." Assumes knightly stance despite monstrous visage. -Ludwig, the Holy Blade
13:44 it’s never actually stated it was a young radahn, this was radahn at the shattering which was the same event that he went mad due to scarlet rot (but before going mad) which can really show the strength of morgott (even if he was concealing his powers at the time)
I love these videos, awesome lore, just a quick tip. You say "Refugee" instead of "Refuge". Refugee is the word for someone who is seeking safe haven, a Refuge is that safe haven, pronounced without the "e" at the end. I don't mean to be pedantic, I've subscribed for these dope videos!
One happy note at the end of morgotts life. Upon his defeat to you his horns are removed. The curse lifted by the erdtree. Further proof is when he dies he evaporates into grace that points Godfrey to you
It's not a fact that Loretta was an Albunauric, it's her shield that spawned a rumor that she was one, because it supposedly depicts this dew of life. Even the shield calls this an "absurd rumor". It calls the rumor absurd, which certainly implies that it's false, but it's not impossible that she really was an albunauric. Her finding and going to the Haligtree implies that she might be one, but it might also just mean that she empathises with their existance.
Juno Hoslow definitely deserves a nod here, his story and how he wants to protect Diallos from the burden of killing is heartbreaking. He is a one man army, probably one of the most proficient characters lore-wise the player runs into. He loves Diallos for his kindness and doesn't want him to become a killer like him. It's why he carries two whips; he is carrying the burden of his brother for him so he doesn't have to lose his kindness. He gets called to the Lands Between but essentially gives up killing because he doesn't like doing it anymore and he holes himself up in the mountaintops. Volcano Manor calls him but he basically flips them the double bird. Sadly his story ends here when you kill him after Volcano Manor sends you after him. I wish Juno got to see Diallos defend Jarburg; Diallos' heart let him finally be his own warrior in the end, not a heartless killing machine but a protector. I bet Juno would have loved that for him
I am surprised that no one from Demon's Souls made the list, not even an honorable mention. Would have figured Biorr, of the Twin Fangs, Ostrava, of Boletaria, or Old King Doran would have been a shoe in.
So glad the Ivory King of DS2 is getting hi proper respects here. Easily one of the coolest dudes in Soulsborne lore. Also one of yhe weapons literally says that he started out as a typical soldier that worked his way up to the title of Monarch because he used to be one of the best soldiers who was always yhe first in battle or something to that effect. God, when I read all the items descriptions about him I just thought he was the coolest.
Tarnished Elden Lord, we who felled Gods, stood tall against cosmic eldritch horrors, demons, even fate itself. I get that we become a god almost every game but we become a God of Gods in Elden ring.
I forget if Gehrman did anything dubious, but he stays the host of the hunters dream and mercy kills all the other hunters to spare them from the unending purgatory of it after they complete their journey. It turn, keeping himself locked in the dream forever. Not to mention setting a precedent for hunters.
@@UsualMoth he's still selfless and tragic because he wants to make a better world and had to give up everything to become a god but yeah he dont deserve his spot here at all😭😭
I respect Morgott but 1. The painting depicting him fighting Radahn shows then surrounded by the battle. So he wasn't soloing the redmains. 2. More importantly, it was most likely Morgott who ordered the attack on Mount Gelmir. The large part of forces of Leyndell growing weak is him throwing them against a mountain because he, as a zealout, couldn't tolerate the existence of blasphemy.
Is a characters heroism determined by their strength, or by their actions, because if it is the latter, Solaire not being on the list and near the top is a tragedy. The guy literally just gives you multiplayer and helps because its a nice thing to do. He's also powerful because of his own strength, his weapons and armor are not magical in any way, Solaire is powerful because he's Solaire.
most heroic characters: a canibalistic serial killer but he does it for little girl so its heroic also carrying a war criminal on your back that literally nuked an entire region bc she couldnt win but its a long march so its heroic
Artorias sacrificed himself to save his wolf after failing his mission. Gwyn sacrificed himself to save his entire race and history of the world from fading away. Moreover, Gwyn did that after giving part of his soul to humans who eventually betrayed him. Don't get me wrong, linking the fire definitely goes against the rules of dark souls universe but Gwyn isn't portrayed to be nearly as much evil as the community tends to believe and there are many false accusations about him going on. And yet Artorias, who was one of Gwyn's most loyal subordinates, is believed to be the biggest hero figure and genuinely good character. This is something I'll just never understand.
Gwyn was actually the top villain of the other video and I totally agree with it. Mass murder, genocide, enslavement, brainwashing, child abuse, abuse of power, cursing an entire race and then exploiting them, being evil is just a hobby for Gwyn.
Another weird thing is that people overlook Gwyn as a father figure. I mean, it is stated in game that he shared part of his power with his children and that Filianore was his beloved daughter and she hoped that he will return. People assume that Godfrey loved Morgott even though he also left him because of affection shown in cutscene. Nameless King also showed a respect as a final farewell, meaning while he did disagree with his father, he did not hate him. I am not saying that he is good father, I am just saying he is better than many people think he is
@@laurencevicar5798 Gwyn forced Gwyndolin to live as a daughter because he was born to the moonlight rather than sunlight. Also pretty sure it was Gwyn who banished the nameless king for siding with the dragons. He abandoned Filianore at the end of the world to contain the pygmies, such that people didn't even seem to know she existed
@@Bob-jh6xt we still don't know much about Artorias as a person tho. He belonged to the god race and so was dependent on fire just like Gwyn himself and both had interest in subduing the dark. So saying that he secretly didn't approve of Gwyn's actions while working under his rule is kinda silly. Btw I'm not trying to make Artorias dirty or anything
Gwyn wasn't inherently evil but his actions are epitome are "some of the worst acts are done with the best of intentions". And that's the cardinal sin pride. That makes Gwyn a villain comprehensively. He didn't try to understand the wider picture and let the natural cycle continue. He had his run.
How would you rank the heroes, and what additional characters would you add to the list?
For me
1 Ivory King
2 Gael
3 Artorias
4 Nameless King
5 Morgott
6 Loretta
and maybe Sieglinde from Ds1
I would add Ludwig and…Rom. Yes, Rom, vacuous spider. She is Atlas of Bloodborne, as she tried to keep world safe from blood moon ritual. Also Sir Alonne, because he helped weak king with his service and trained his knights, who still respect him as they protect him, and after witnessing corruption of his king, he left him
Lorian Elder Prince is also a hero, as he killed Demon Prince who could restore Chaos Flame and protected his younger brother and shared a curse with him.
Also Lady Tomoe from Sekiro, because obvious reasons.
Sir Alonne and Fume Knight.
Also Burnt Ivory King has the best intro scene in the entire souls series rivaled may with Nameless King. The way the gate rises above and he starts sprinting towards you like he has a score to settle. Pretty much the same with Nameless King in his second phase when he starts walking towards you menacingly. I wish they hadn't made the rest of the game so hard and frustrating.
honestly idk just wanted to say good video man good content, & good views boss keep up the good work!
Great video, but personally, I think Miquella would have fit in the list.
First, he's an extremely powerful demi-god, a master magician (he invented multiple powerful golden order funtamentalist incantations) and a talented craftsman (he created works of art such as Malenia's prosthesis, the pulley crossbow, which is the most powerful crossbow in the game btw, the Golden Epitaph, and the unalloyed gold needles that are so powerful that they can ward off Outer Gods' meddling, and even cure it, and also). He's even revered as another deity, St.Trina, who controls potent sleep magic capable of charming even bosses.
But most importantly, he is kind of the embodiment of kindness and benevolence in my opinion, but it seems like in the DLC we'll learn about a darker side of his character... But yeah in the meantime he's like the most compelling character in all of Elden Ring (apart from Alexander and Boc, obviously).
Even then, out of all the shardbearers, Miquella and Malenia are the ones with the best intentions and actions : Godrick hunts and grafts people in a pointless search for power, Morgott clings to a dying order of racist enslavers, Rennala is... Rennala, Ranni literally caused the end of the world, and Mogh is a disgusting freak.
So in comparison, even if Miquella is kind of shady, or if he uses peole or whatever, I think I'd still root for him since he offers a safe haven to all those rejected and forsaken by the Golden Order, and strives to find a cure to his twin sister's condition and also bring peace to his older brother Godwin (the golden epitaph reads : "Oh Brother, Lord Brother, please die a true death")... And even as St.Trina, he brings respite and peaceful dreams to the suffering and the tormented, even quelling the nightmares brought by the flame of frenzy (but I think that's cut content).
Not to mention he is probably the one who helps us the most during our adventure : I believe he is Torrent's former master, and as such, he's the one who told Melina to give us the spectral ring whistle (that he created, since it's made out of unalloyed gold, and is also the work of a great craftsman), and he's also the one who sent Ranni to give us the spirit calling bell (evidenced by the fact that Miquella has a strong connection to spirits, since he's Torrent former master, and also by by the fact that when Ranni appears in the church of Elleh, Kalé and his dokey are put to sleep with St.Trina's magic, who is quasi-confirmed to be Miquella's alter-ego).
Anyway I can't wait for the DLC and sorry for the long post. :)
I didn't know Gael was chill like that.
🤝
he goated i love him even more
Selfless and an amazing boss fight
hey man you cant be taking Dark Souls her- oh shi didn't realize you were chill like that take what you want man
Sheeesh
You forgot Sieglinde, who bested most areas of ds1 despite not being Undead, all just to save her father from himself, before having to kill him to save his leagacy.
Aside from Gael, I'm a massive simp for the Burnt Ivory King, fuck you Gwyn, this is what a god king should be.
Preach it brotha
I mean he's that good of a king a literal shard of manus deeply falls in love with him and mourns his passing, keeping his legacy alive and protecting the world from the old chaos. All the other shards succeeded in overtaking and destroyed their kingdom and kings, alsanna did the exact opposite. Best and most tragic couple in souls, wish they got reunited in the end
@@thex6992I mean, Queen Elana didn’t seem like she was evil from what we get from her past. She seemed absolutely furious that her homeland was destroyed because of another’s greed. I don’t really blame her if she’s become hostile to anyone who has come after Sinh, seeing what happened last time.
@@thex6992not only that, in dark souls 3 the demon race and old chaos was severely weakened at that point and was almost extinct. The ivory king and alsanna practically succeeded in preventing chaos from overtaking the world.
@@thex6992Hey Nadalia didn't need to do anything, the old iron king destroyed his own kingdom all by himself.
I know having no dialogue fits Artorias better but I love his voice lines. He sounds so young and soft.
he could've canonically been a twink they robbed us
Idk man, that sounds pretty gay in my oppinion
@@gggame4633 I don't know what the problem here is, artorias would make a great partner
@@gggame4633and what
@@masterstylah4138Artorias would be a great partner in general, romantic, platonic, gay or not
I hope bro puts the Cleanrot Knight that carried Malenia from Caelid all the way to the Haligtree
Finlay? Oh bro got massive insect head right after that.
Yes, Finlay deserves this
Why should he be on the list?
@@Letwoo67 Caelid? to the Haligtree? fending off foes with a fucking demigod on their back?
@@Letwoo67
She* and she carried a whole giant ass demigod through wars and other horrors to the Haligtree, Finlay is a damn trooper
*The Most Heroic Characters of Souls Genre*
Fume Knight: Hm??? Must be a wind.
I was wondering why nobody mentioned him here.
PS: Humanity Restored.
is fume really heroic? i always thought of him and alonne as antihero figures
That ending with Artorias hit me so hard. The way the screen got darker and darker as he was being consumed by the dark😭
It's my Headcanon that Artorius' soul, whether you use it or give it away, empowers you to fight Manus, and that Artorius' soul forms a sort of Aura around you (yes almost like a Stand) to give you that extra little umph you need to beat Manus.
Also, can we just appreciate how much of a bada** Ivory King is? The literal definition of "they had to jump me to have a chance" in every single situation. Oh, you're a shard of pure evil that corrupts everything? Here's unconditional love and support. Oh, you're a decades old evil that gods were scared of? Square up. Oh, I'm slowly losing my strength while this chaotic evil is getting stronger? You don't come out until I say so.
"I can fix her" and he did
@@AnomalocarisWizardbro did what no other man could, bro is HIM
The Ivory King is such a W husband
What's W
@@ThommyofThennWumbo
@@Helixneek thanks
Honestly thses characters are more heroic than the player character at times
Oh definitely, have you seen the backstabbing animation? That is clearly a not a good heroic backstab.
Siegward of Catarina will always be, not just my favorite onion, but hero of the DS series. An unkindled who's name apparently means guardian, he goes about protecting people, being a light of cheer in the most depressing of the three Dark Souls, and NOT ONLY befriending the lone giant Yhorm, but keeping his promise to slay him when he loses his senses! He is, by his own words he uses for you, a true friend. His valor and cheer will always be my favorite, and watching him charge in against a demon, or walk right up to Yhorm with his vow, will always show me his true, heroic spirit! Long may the sun shine!! 🍻
I loved him in DS3. At first I was just like 'oh he's like the ds 1 guy he's just gonna sit around and muse about how to get past something while I actually go and do it.' But then he sprang into action to actually help me fight a demon and from there he had my attention.
Also, while it's a funny meme for me and my friends to say it's Solaire who cooks and leaves estus soup all over the game, it's probably our onion bro
I'm going to die on this hill but ivory king is by far one of the best characters ever presented by fromsoft, literal hero with immense power capable of defeating characters like nameless king or soul of cinder ( by lore)
Wait isn’t soul of cinder a representation of every one who lit the flame? Which would include the player from DS2, the guy that defeated the Ivory king.
Pretty much it includes the player from dark souls 1 too@@jobreau1725
He is. He is the soul of every legendary warrior that lit the flame.
Ivory King can never beat Nameless King or Soul of Cinder. Nameless King is a god who still has most if not all of his strength. He himself is only a bit below Gwyn who still has his Lordsoul (aka the strongest being in the series). Soul of Cinder is the amalgamation of everyone who has ever linked the flame, this includes Bearer of the Curse, who did beat Ivory King
Sir alonne is goated
mans forgot Radahn learning gravity magic just to ride his horsey and save the entire fking world from aliens riding comets
it is a bit of a crime that he wasn't included on this list. I'd go as far as to say that the story Elden Ring is literally just Radahn is the GOAT: The Video Game
@aspserpent not to mention, "Radahn" is a cold ass name too
If you love something, let it go - Leonard the horse was suffering immeasurably from his treatment and while he's lost his mind, you clearly see in Radahn's animations that he physically abuses the horse in his attacks. It was a sweet thing that went too far. Also technically he learned gravity magic from an alien from space anyway
@@bajscast The path to hell is paved with good intentions, as they say. The point is, before he lost his mind entirely, he was a noble and kind warrior. And if Artorias can make the list, and his only in-game appearance is just as mindless as main-game Rahdan, surely our boy Rahdan should have too.
Bit of misinfo, Gael went hollow upon realizing he had the dark soul. Hence how in his second phase he takes more damage from fire and the hollowslayer greatsword
Black Iron Tarkus. Only the fall could fell him.
...ironic...
Ironic that the guy considered a god of war was the one who wanted to make peace the most.
Happens in Norse mythology too
You didn't need to hit me in the heart with the unused Artorias dialogue. That was unecessary. Now I gotta wipe my tears.
Also, I think the Ivory King is the most heroic character in Fromsoft, built his kingdom ontop of hell itself, and his throne room stood at its gates just so that he could be the very first line of defense against chaos. He was both kind to his people and always led the charge in battle, even sacrificing himself to save the kingdom and fighting to the last against chaos, and actually winning even if his soul was ultimately consumed. In a world of false prophecies, greed, and lies, the Ivory King stands above it all as the greatest hero.
I didn’t see it mentioned here, but if you collect all the knights and let Alsanna pass on she mentions he probably knew who she was. Ivory King willingly let the shard of Manus in while also being the only king who didn’t fall to it.
Y'know, one thing that I respect about The Ivory King is that when his wife revealed that she's one of the Manus' descendant, he simply said "I already know about your origin, but I don't care, I still love you", talk about loving husband...
Also the DLC offers one of my favorite weapon (Loyce Greatsword), it literally the most beautiful weapon I've seen and I think it's worth the struggle (goddamn ponies with their lightning)
Knight Artorias and the Abyss Watchers are some of my favorite stories in the Dark Souls series.
The most heroic souls character is John darksoul
Whoever the tarnished is that first put the scroll on the ground suggesting “Try Finger, But Hole” is the real hero of this genre.
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I love that patches made it to the honorable mentions of both the hero and the villain list
''Have you heard of the tragedy of Artorias the Abysswalker?'' in palpatine fashion.
Finlay from Elden is a neat one. She carried her leader from Caelid all the way to the tree. If she took the conventional route we took, she'd have to go around Stormveil, near the swamp, to LEYNDELL, all the way to the land of the giants before making it to the tree.
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Gael, Faaram (nameless' real name) and Artorias are the 3 og tragic heroes of Lordran. They saw the wrongs from the beginning, and tried to fix it.
Oh yeah, I forgot that armor was named after a "God of War", man really glad I played DS2 so some of this stuff can click.
I’m sorry but finlay is the most heroic individual in the series when her heroic act is put into perspective.
Finlay walked through the swamp of aeonia, limgrave, liurnia, dectus lift, part of Altus, leyndell, forbidden lands, and consecrated snowfield while carrying a sleeping Malenia and fending off enemies of all kind while also likely inflicted with rot. Also it’s possible that she didn’t take dectus and instead took ruin strewn precipice which means she went through even more of Altus.
Remeber this took place during the shattering, in a time where anyone would see a sleeping demigod and would attack and try to kill the demigod and Finlay fought ALL of them off single handedly.
Imagine walking through the whole map with scarlet rot, no torrent, no running, no fast travel, no flask or incants that cure rot, and enemy agro increased. That experience would be what Finlay went through
Gwyndolin is a fascinating character to discuss. On the one hand, he is the rejected son of Gwyn, but also the last deity to keep watch over Anor Londo. On the other hand... he's a deceiver, a manipulator, and a defender of Gwyn's curse of the Darksign. I consider him equal parts hero and villain.
I believe Soldier of godrick needs no introduction.
We could say Aldia is in someway also a hero. His whole mission was to break the curse, and he failed. He still tried to break the curse even as a immortal head. He did some fcked up shit but it was not with bad intentions. He maybe not the purest soul but not one of the evil either
Hell is paved with good intentions.
not true mate, most villain kill for the greater good, but they still massacre a lot of people. aldia just want to overcome death and hollowing. he wish to rid himself of the curse, not for others but for him. he's a mad scientist.
Great video, i got a surge of goosebumps with each little story
And that art of Morgott at the start of his segment is awesome. I love the idea of using his great rune as a halo
Glad you enjoyed it! Morgott's artwork belongs to Rohland DeMoss, you can see more of his work online.
I think nameless king was exiled by gwyn before he linked the first flame
Ya that’s also what I heard. I feel like it make more sense too, having nameless king actually being on the king of the gods and getting banish by lesser gods dosen’t seam right to me. Your telling me that the strongest god, actual heir to the throne and whit a personal army which is loyal to him, this guy’s whit everything to win got kick out because of one unpopular decision. I don’t believe it
He left his ring on his father's coffin as farewell. If Gwyn exiled him: 1) why wouldn't NK give it to him directly as a statement? 2) Why would Gwyn already have a coffin when he wasn't planning to go away yet?
@@elias.t are you talking about ds3 in irithyll or am I missing something from the first game?
@@kamprouristheoharis8458 the description of the sunlight blade from DS1. I misremembered it as the ring.
"When the eldest son was stripped of his deific status, he left this on his father's coffin, perhaps as a final farewell."
@@elias.t yeah that makes sense
Eileen the Crow
, Midir and Vendric deserve mention.
In this house, we simp for Lucatiel
Artorias is still my favorite character in dark souls, and my favorite boss fight.
The Ivory King is the most heroic character, there's no fair competition.
Shame Radahn didn't make the list. He saved the cities of Caelid and protected the world from the powers of the Outer Gods by holding back the stars themselves. He was the opposite of Morgott, he wanted to become Lord and help the realm and its people. Even after becoming a mindless monster, he kept the stars at bay. He was a true hero.
Yeah he did some good stuff but he also really loved fighting and was a bit of a warmonger, but yeah he was generally a good dude it seems
It’s worth mentioning that the story of the abysswalker was a lie created by ciaran. It is said that artorias destroyed the abyss and manus, repelled the dark wraiths of new londo. When in actuality, you did that.
We only did the first thing, there's no evidence that your time in New Londo is set in the past. So while he didn't kill Manus, there's no evidence Artorias didn't repel the dark wraiths long enough for New Londo to be flooded
Not a """"true"""" soul games but Bloodborne has a lot of chill people for such a dark game
The first that comes to mind is Eileen, and she only turns mad because of someone that isn't out of control, she just needs one good friend (us) to stay sane. Hell, taking the risk of going mad to save many is pretty heroic
Gherman, Maria and Logarius locked themselves up to either protect a dangerous secret or give guidance
Valtr is a cool guy too. He isn't completely sane but he fights for a good cause and is mostly a positive entity. He is also a hero to all Str/Arcane players that want an early Holy Moonlight Sword :))
And of course, the original Iosefka
Slave Knight Gael easily takes the cake for the sheer scale of his undertaking, and one of the few hero's who succeed completely, if the hints are true, the dark souls pigment world is free from the failings of the Dark Souls world.
"Aah, you were at my side, all along." Picks up swords
"My true mentor... My guiding moonlight..." Assumes knightly stance despite monstrous visage.
-Ludwig, the Holy Blade
Saw your villan video today and searched for heros video that you said would be uploaded but didn't found it but here it is. Lucky me 😂❤️
I'm surprised that Siglynd of Catarina was not mentioned. Most badass character of DS1.
She wasn't even hollow and she made it through most of the game
Here is something wrong with this video I don't see Greirat of the Undead Settlement here.
I feel like Vyke should’ve been an honorable mention.
Im really glad Morgott got his mention, in this house we recognize the last of all kings
artorias was THE hero. as you can see from my pfp i love artorias.
13:44 it’s never actually stated it was a young radahn, this was radahn at the shattering which was the same event that he went mad due to scarlet rot (but before going mad) which can really show the strength of morgott (even if he was concealing his powers at the time)
I love these videos, awesome lore, just a quick tip. You say "Refugee" instead of "Refuge". Refugee is the word for someone who is seeking safe haven, a Refuge is that safe haven, pronounced without the "e" at the end. I don't mean to be pedantic, I've subscribed for these dope videos!
One happy note at the end of morgotts life. Upon his defeat to you his horns are removed. The curse lifted by the erdtree. Further proof is when he dies he evaporates into grace that points Godfrey to you
I kinda wish we got Loretta's shotgun spam spell from her 2nd phase, she's one of my favourite bosses and characters
Found your channel today. Amazing content my friend! Keep it up
Wow I spent like 2 hours explaining why Gael is a heroic character to someone yesterday when all i had to do was just link this great video
It's not a fact that Loretta was an Albunauric, it's her shield that spawned a rumor that she was one, because it supposedly depicts this dew of life. Even the shield calls this an "absurd rumor". It calls the rumor absurd, which certainly implies that it's false, but it's not impossible that she really was an albunauric. Her finding and going to the Haligtree implies that she might be one, but it might also just mean that she empathises with their existance.
I love that most bosses in the souls series aren't against the villains, but against the good guys
Ivory King :) is who I see as being the most Heroic. Great video !!
I didn’t know Gael was the MC of the story
Juno Hoslow definitely deserves a nod here, his story and how he wants to protect Diallos from the burden of killing is heartbreaking. He is a one man army, probably one of the most proficient characters lore-wise the player runs into. He loves Diallos for his kindness and doesn't want him to become a killer like him. It's why he carries two whips; he is carrying the burden of his brother for him so he doesn't have to lose his kindness. He gets called to the Lands Between but essentially gives up killing because he doesn't like doing it anymore and he holes himself up in the mountaintops. Volcano Manor calls him but he basically flips them the double bird. Sadly his story ends here when you kill him after Volcano Manor sends you after him.
I wish Juno got to see Diallos defend Jarburg; Diallos' heart let him finally be his own warrior in the end, not a heartless killing machine but a protector. I bet Juno would have loved that for him
Winged Knights and their quest to stop Lothric monarchs gotta be part of this conversation too 🤝
I am surprised that no one from Demon's Souls made the list, not even an honorable mention. Would have figured Biorr, of the Twin Fangs, Ostrava, of Boletaria, or Old King Doran would have been a shoe in.
That Artorius monologue had no business being cut😔
Glad someone finally mentions morgott
So glad the Ivory King of DS2 is getting hi proper respects here. Easily one of the coolest dudes in Soulsborne lore. Also one of yhe weapons literally says that he started out as a typical soldier that worked his way up to the title of Monarch because he used to be one of the best soldiers who was always yhe first in battle or something to that effect.
God, when I read all the items descriptions about him I just thought he was the coolest.
I would of nominated my onion bro, Siegward of Catarina. Who summoned the courage to fulfill his promise to his friend Yhorm.
Tarnished Elden Lord, we who felled Gods, stood tall against cosmic eldritch horrors, demons, even fate itself.
I get that we become a god almost every game but we become a God of Gods in Elden ring.
I forget if Gehrman did anything dubious, but he stays the host of the hunters dream and mercy kills all the other hunters to spare them from the unending purgatory of it after they complete their journey. It turn, keeping himself locked in the dream forever. Not to mention setting a precedent for hunters.
Mquella absolutely deserves to be here, he's such a selfless, pure and tragic character and I'm tired of people not acknowledging it
This aged like milk
@@UsualMoth he's still selfless and tragic because he wants to make a better world and had to give up everything to become a god but yeah he dont deserve his spot here at all😭😭
Where the fuck is the legend Iron Tarkus, the first person to ever reach anor londo alive
Havel, The Rock
Now that the DLC released....it seems like both the omen brothers were miserable victims....
Ivory king, the ultimate chad
Awesome video. But where is my man Siegward?
All Hail The Ivory King!!! A true king and hero! Maybe his name and legacy never be forgotten!
Damn im getting hit with all kinds of good new souls topic channels lately
Awesome video man.
Patches getting a honorable mention, eyyyy
Abyss watcher is also cool as hell
I respect Morgott but
1. The painting depicting him fighting Radahn shows then surrounded by the battle. So he wasn't soloing the redmains.
2. More importantly, it was most likely Morgott who ordered the attack on Mount Gelmir. The large part of forces of Leyndell growing weak is him throwing them against a mountain because he, as a zealout, couldn't tolerate the existence of blasphemy.
the sculptor from sekiro is also an heroic character , who fought toe to toe with prime ishin ashina
Is a characters heroism determined by their strength, or by their actions, because if it is the latter, Solaire not being on the list and near the top is a tragedy. The guy literally just gives you multiplayer and helps because its a nice thing to do. He's also powerful because of his own strength, his weapons and armor are not magical in any way, Solaire is powerful because he's Solaire.
Maybe I am the bad guy
Siegeward of Catarina is the GOAT
Ngl, I'm pretty dissapointed that Gael isn't left handed, cause then we'd have the trio of left-handed chads: Artorias, Ivory king and Gael.
Oh to be a hollow vibing in New Londo Ruins 20:28
The real most heroic character of Soulsborne is Mimic Tear, couldn't have done the DLC without him.
Daaamn, very strong end of the video
Miquella has too much Traitor Femboy Griffith energy
I find it mad that Artorias' lines were cut.. That was hard
…I’m calm…i’m calm…WHERE IS YHORM!?
Wonder if Vyke is supposed to be Elden ring’s Artorias.
The most heroic‘s are with a dagger and a parry-shield.
most heroic characters: a canibalistic serial killer but he does it for little girl so its heroic
also carrying a war criminal on your back that literally nuked an entire region bc she couldnt win but its a long march so its heroic
Artorias #1 because he protected Sif with his shield instead of himself
I mean Astorias is nice and all, but then there is also Sif, the goodest of Bois!
Artorias sacrificed himself to save his wolf after failing his mission. Gwyn sacrificed himself to save his entire race and history of the world from fading away. Moreover, Gwyn did that after giving part of his soul to humans who eventually betrayed him. Don't get me wrong, linking the fire definitely goes against the rules of dark souls universe but Gwyn isn't portrayed to be nearly as much evil as the community tends to believe and there are many false accusations about him going on. And yet Artorias, who was one of Gwyn's most loyal subordinates, is believed to be the biggest hero figure and genuinely good character. This is something I'll just never understand.
Gwyn was actually the top villain of the other video and I totally agree with it. Mass murder, genocide, enslavement, brainwashing, child abuse, abuse of power, cursing an entire race and then exploiting them, being evil is just a hobby for Gwyn.
Another weird thing is that people overlook Gwyn as a father figure. I mean, it is stated in game that he shared part of his power with his children and that Filianore was his beloved daughter and she hoped that he will return. People assume that Godfrey loved Morgott even though he also left him because of affection shown in cutscene. Nameless King also showed a respect as a final farewell, meaning while he did disagree with his father, he did not hate him.
I am not saying that he is good father, I am just saying he is better than many people think he is
@@laurencevicar5798 Gwyn forced Gwyndolin to live as a daughter because he was born to the moonlight rather than sunlight. Also pretty sure it was Gwyn who banished the nameless king for siding with the dragons. He abandoned Filianore at the end of the world to contain the pygmies, such that people didn't even seem to know she existed
@@Bob-jh6xt we still don't know much about Artorias as a person tho. He belonged to the god race and so was dependent on fire just like Gwyn himself and both had interest in subduing the dark. So saying that he secretly didn't approve of Gwyn's actions while working under his rule is kinda silly. Btw I'm not trying to make Artorias dirty or anything
Gwyn wasn't inherently evil but his actions are epitome are "some of the worst acts are done with the best of intentions". And that's the cardinal sin pride. That makes Gwyn a villain comprehensively. He didn't try to understand the wider picture and let the natural cycle continue. He had his run.
And this has made me like morgott even more now
Godfrey not mentioned, opinion not tolerated.
I am surprised no one mentioned Maliketh
Vendrick has to be here