The 2023 Honda Civic Type R Has One BIG Problem...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Back in 2017 The Honda Civic Type R took the automotive world by storm with its sharp handling and agressive styling. With a 2.0L turbocharged 4 cylinder from factory the Civic Type R was all the rage for the JDM and Honda community. Even though the car was front wheel drive it didn't deter it from being an amazing racing platform. However that was back in 2017... in 2022 the automotive space is much different. With competitors on the horizon is the 2023 Honda Civic Type R better enough than its rivals? For this review - let's go for a drive and find out!
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Honda Civic Type R or Corolla GR?
Corolla GR hands down. AWD and 300hp cant beat that.
GR Corolla all day!
Gr corolla is obviously better.❤👑 king of the segment
I like how the Civic looks but drivetrain and everything id say Corolla
type R if it had AWD..so GR for me
Biggest problem is the 25k plus markups. 4 dealers in San Diego with the car on the show room floor are charging 25k markup. The dealer I went to wanted 68k for a black one 🤣.
The problem aren't the dealers, it's the morons who buy the cars at those prices.
Whatever you do, please don't allow dealerships to get their way. Every dealer that does this crap deserves to go belly up.
Dealer in Orange County wanted $65k
Just wait 5 years 🤣🤣
well they told that the honda could cost up to 70K $ lol what has the world become 😞
Congrats on the marriage! Personally I think the new style is more approachable than last gen, but it is somewhat hard to distinguish from the standard civic. You are correct the wing looks like an afterthought. I like it but I think the aftermarket can really help it out. To be a little more out there, but not to the point of the last gen.
Have you seen it in person it's so much wider than a standard
@@topheavyteggy8232 I haven't seen the new type r in person, based my assumption on how I see the base model, sleek looking but not aggressive. I know the type r will be wider but I was talking more about body work differences. I feel aftermarket areo or body kits will help it to find that perfect middle ground of aggressive looking and sleek.
@@topheavyteggy8232 yeah it’s unbelievably wider. I have a 22 hatch my self and we got a type r in a couple weeks ago and it was so much different
Go see it in person, it looks like a totally different car. It does have some similarities of course but it looks totally diferent.
@@Boostaddict11 yea i have a sedan and i saw a type r in grey...blew me away😅
Looks are subjective now there are 2 R’s to choose from. The Gundam look or the blend in traffic look. Personally I still prefer the look of the FK8 you won’t confuse it.
Lmao if you saw this fl5 in person... It doesn't blend. Thing is so wide and aggressive in the front.
Plus the fact that the old ones faster for less money
The new one does NOT blend in traffic at all.
I like the toned down style bc it lets you modify it to the degree that you want instead of Honda doing it for you
I hope you guys buy it then cuz I baught a mustang gt 6spd instead.
@@hatch450sx3 Have fun with the new car you "baught".
@@SomeOne_86 funny
@@hatch450sx3 crazy that no one asked what you "baught", nor does it have any relevance
Gt are cheaper than this R though,but bah the last gen type was light years better and wider
I like the new Type-R. The subtle look opens the doors to more buyers.
Appealing to a wider audience, means they have to dumb down the looks, it doesn't look better over-all like most people have stated.
They made it a lot cleaner, but at the same time removed a lot of the polish that the civic has been working on each generation, and now it's just a smaller accord.
If they can afford a 70,000 dollar car, the mark up is crazy stupid
@@ToymonkeyjrThen go aftermarket aesthetics; you have the option to drastically change the looks of this car just like a blank canvas, unlike the previous generation, where you couldn’t do as much to personalize to a wider variety of looks to different folks.
For the previous generation, you’re pretty much stuck with the boy racer look; for this generation, you can still do that, just requires aftermarket.
@@Toymonkeyjr I like the FL5 better than the FK8. The rear on the fk8 is ugly for my taste. This reminds me more of the humble sporty look of the past civics.
More demand = more dealer markup.
Biggest problem is the price lmao
Congrats on the wedding. My biggest disappointment with both the FL5 and FK8 CTR's is the markups. Honda isn't charging the dealers any more money over invoice just because it's a CTR. This is specifically the dealer networks and the consumers overpaying at fault. I hear some paying north of $50k and honestly you can get so much more car at that price point and for $50k I rather import something more exclusive.
Brother works at a Honda dealer fat old guy weighing over 300 easy traded his clean fk8 for a new ctr. Don’t get the point of having a sport car if your a bigger boy
I'd be open to looking at other options but what else is out there new that is daily drivable, utility of hatchback, , fwd or awd for the elements, and reliable while being fun?
@@danielservin What kind of dumbass comment is this?
@@andresmirabal6864 many options lmao fym
@@KJ-dv6pf and they are?
At least the new one doesn't make your eyes bleed when you look at it.
It still does
Speak for yourself
Agree, Rolf. It's way too busy
The FK8, that is
Get your eyes checked
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE MARRIAGE!!! So happy for you and MRS. that girl in blue. So happy for you guys. May you two have a happy life together
The overheating is a real problem even the Spoon techs were talking about how cooling with the new type r is better but could still become an issue in a serious track car.
This is my primary concern with the FL5. They have made cooling improvements from factory. But they almost all seem to be things that can be done on the FK8.
@@Conranos Intercooler is the first thing. I have an HKS and it made a BIG improvement in hard running. I am going to be combining it with the HKS oil cooler which is a nice, complete kit and a Blitz radiator. Also I have 2018 FK8 but I installed the 20-21 Grille and under bumper rubber spoiler which directs air through the radiator more efficiently. There is the Js Racing glassfibre grille but I didn't feel like spending $1000 and then STILL having to paint it for a part that doesn't fit ANYTHING like OEM.
Got any source on the FL5 overheating at track? I've seen dozens of videos of people driving them on track and paying close attention to that, no issues whatsoever.
@@disco.lemonade Nothing that I know of currently. The FK8 has issues on warm/hot days so it will take awhile for testing to occur. However, the primary cooling issue is the integral, water cooled, exhaust manifold. That hasn't been changed as far as I know.
there already some nuerburgring videos where a fl5 cant survive one lap without going into limp mode on a hot lap
ONLY problem?
Dealer Markups
Supply/demand
TH-camrs/Popularity (attribute to above)
Definitely more than one 😂
Personally, I like the overall look of the FK8 more than the FL5. Don't get me wrong, I do like the toned down look of the FL5, but there's just something about the FK8 that draws my eye more. The sharper edges, the aggressive body lines, just make it stand out more. Fake vents aside, the FK8 is more aesthetically appealing to me.
Lol imagine liking fake vents over real ones. L opinion.
@@SparklingWalrus Imagine not reading the entire comment. I said fake vents aside, I prefer the looks overall over the Accord Type-R. L comment, my guy.
@@scottyd0530 you can’t just ignore fake vents. Fake vents are an automatic L because they’re utterly pointless. Fl5 > fk8 and it’s not even close.
@@SparklingWalrus Per your opinion. You have your opinion and I have mine. Thanks for stopping by 🤙🏼
If I could buy one for under 40k… say 36 or so, I would for sure. 43k…. No thanks. I think they nailed it with the looks, it was what turned me away from the last gen
Agreed at 35k or 43k w/ DCT, AWD, Sunroof, etc ..
There is a lot on the way to 43k...
$43k if you’re lucky. Market right now is around $60k+
Yeah you can’t buy one for 43k anywhere
Who wants to tell him 😂
Yeah never bud
Congrats on the marriage my dude, here's to you two and a great life together!
Seems like they dialed back the looks, but increased everything pertaining to driving, stiffening up the car, making it a better track weapon. I dig it, but please, don't buy one for over msrp. This isn't a $60k car by any means.
I don't think it's really in competition with the GR Corolla since they'll both sell out immediately 10-20% over msrp
If this was AWD it would give the GR a good run
It will regardless. Of course when it’s low grip conditions or if all you care about is drag racing it will be at a disadvantage, but the performance difference everywhere else will be negligible if any.
Don't need it
If it was AWD, it’d be even more expensive. The GR Corolla already undercuts this damn thing by abt $7k starting. An AWD variant would just make things 10x worse
not true at all. this civic type r can even beat the Honda s2000 that is rwd. I would say the civic type R can easily beat the GR awd all day anyday.
If you've owned as many Hondas as I have you know the Civic doesn't need awd. Never has.
I just turned 50 last month and after owning an EP3 for 7 years and being a FA5 Si owner for the past 10 years, I can't help but drool over the FL5.... I love the styling very much on this car. And although I may never actually own one, one can dream. Maybe I'll get one used in a few years once I've become "bored" of my restored and repainted FA5.
Dude congrats to you and the wifey💪🏾💪🏾💙
I like both. The softer edges of the new model and the sharp angles of the prior model.
FK8 is the ugliest civic ever made!
@@Bbc418 dude weren’t u just in doug demuros comments? 😭 why are you commenting on all these type r videos dude no one cares for your opinion lmao
@@james6yearsago599 ya cause no one cares about ugly FK8s!! 🤣😂
@@Bbc418 go do something more productive with your time rather than commenting on every fk8 video on youtube 😂
@@james6yearsago599 ya I will once you stop commenting 🤣😂
Yes! Thank you for being real about the wing! If it’s stock it’s shit, if it’s aftermarket WOW HOW COOL. Dude it’s tasteful and functional without trying hard.
I don't get what's the problem with Honda designing a stock wing that looks like what aftermarket manufacturers would make anyway. Are car manufacturers only allowed to design subtle, boring wings?
It also does follow the trunk line nicely, so...
Also the argument "it looks like an afterthought". Well yeah, it's an economy sedan that's been upgraded for better track performance, what do people expect? 😂
You can’t please everyone 🤷🏻♂️
Congratulations on the marriage!! On a side note, are we going to see a build update on Alejandra's Miata?
Hey Man I think Adding POV shots and pulls to your vids will add so much depth.
Keep killing it. Congrats on your marriage
Great powertrain. Nice interior. Good tires. Yup that's it.
In my opinion the new 2023 Honda Civic type R is not worth the money Compared to the 2022 Honda Civic type R Here are my reasons.
#1Looks
the car does not look like an Aggressive civic Type R Instead it looks more like a Sporty Honda Accord And looks a little too big for me, I rather have the aggressive look from the 2022 model, When Honda said that this 2023 can be a daily driver and a grocery getter they weren't kidding.
#2 weight
It's not lighter Compared to the 2022 civic type R And this is coming from a company that's known for making lightweight cars especially the type R!! 2023 Coming in at a curb weight 3,188 And the 2022 coming in at 3,160 Which will Be a major advantage for the 2022 model Which I'll talk in detail Why it will be an advantage Later. Anyway moving forward.
#3 Price
The new 2023 StartingWith a base price $ 42,895 and price that can go up to $44,385 They even charge extra for the championship white paint $395 !!! And Who knows what the Mark up price will be at the dealer? I don't know
50,000 + ? While the 2022 starting price was $39,000 Not that cheap either, but I believe more Bang for the Buck Between the 2 cars no after market wing here.
#3 Power
Honda says that this Civic type R is the most powerful The 2022 Honda Civic type R Has 306 HP Torque 295 While the 2023 has 315HP 310 Torque 9HP difference? I don't see it for the money that they're charging, But I guess it's all about the torque 295 For the 2022 versus 2023 310 torque Which both of them Slip On a dig And That's when everybody wishes it was AWD but whatever, it is what it is.
#4 Bonus round
Remember when I said that that weight was gonna make a big difference well believe it or not from a dig yes the new civic type R is faster Because of the 310 torque But not by much, but would you believe me if I told you that on a roll race the 2022 is the faster civic type R!! Don't believe me guys, I've seen it for myself on videos from Europe comparing the 2 And comparing the Corolla GR let me tell you nothing pretty In a way back to what I was saying People that have the 2022 model go ahead and challenge that new 2023 on a roll and see what happens you will Be pleasantly surprised that every single time You race you're going to win and Not only that, you will pull On them to boot, Leaving the 2023 civic type R owner scratching his head wondering why I can't beat the older civic type R how can this be? I just paid almost $46,000 If not more Who are we kidding definitely more , And since everybody that has a civic Type R doesn't really like to race From digs nowadays It's pretty much in the bag for the 2022 owner Because they're going to win every time, Hell in the end of the quarter mile you'll start pulling on them On the High gears only For them too beat you by a car or half a car At the end of the quarter mile Sweating bricks because they know you were coming . So in my opinion the older 2022 civic type R is the better of the 2, and is holding its price very well And those are the reasons why I think the new one is not worth the money Just more gizmo's bigger rims and fixing things that should have been fixed in the 1st place, And yes that includes the after market wing And as for the car being too high another reason why it shouldn't have to make you buy coilovers when you're paying almost $46,000 for a car that Comes with one of the best handling Cars in the market I would go as far as to say it should have came with coilover's And a kick butt stance for the price that they're charging , So In my opinion Gundam civic for the win all day !!!🏆 ✌️
And for the guys that just have to have the newest thing go buy the Corolla gr way better than the civic type R In every way Take it from a Evo owner There's nothing like AWD turbo And yes that includes in the gravel For obvious reasons.
5 grand too much, Carolla going to steal all that entry level hot hatch buyer.
That would be the case if GRs were selling for MSRP. Unfortunately, 90% of buyers will be paying a minimum of 5-10K markup for these vehicles
no its not lol they're only making 6000 GR corollas a year, and they're all going to be marked up
Personally, I love the looks of the new one. The previous gen was just too much for me. The new one I find very handsome and sporty. Beautiful design. Great ratios. Nicely balanced.
It a nice civic but not worth the sticker price without AWD. If they had a 2 door version it would be a game changer.
I think throttle house proved it was actually slighty slower then the old one 😂
Only in a rolling drag (not what a type r is for), new one was faster launch and faster track time 🤷
@@celliott16 well then that’s cool. U prolly forgot a lot of the United States is pretty straight roads roll racing is pretty popular
@402 SHO If you want to roll race you should probably get another car. Yes I know there are fast Civics.
@@402SHO 🤡 if we wanted a fast car in straight line you think we paying 40k for a civic. ?
@@GaryV209 bro shut up the clown is the person using the clown emoji probably driving ur parents car 🤣. Hondas have been used forever for drag racing 😂👍🏽
The front looks good but if you look at it from the side, the ratio looks odd.
Honda launched Acura in North America, not in Japan, and Acura was the first Japanese luxury brand and later on, Toyota and Nissan launched their own luxury brand Lexus and Infiniti respectively.
Throttle House did a roll ease between the new type r vs the FK8 (last gen) and the FK8 is faster in a straight line
@X XL The FK8 was a stock press car they(Honda of America) gave everyone to test.
@X XL Once again the Fk8(the old Type R) was the Honda press car. It was stock. You might want to watch the video again if it's important to you.
@X XL the FK8 came straight from Honda it’s a press car
@X XL even Throttle House states in the video the FK8 came from Honda.
tbh I used to like the FL5 but I think the "Fake Vent" FK8 is actually a good car. Not because it looks cool but It feels cool to ride in. I rode in my relative's FK8 and it was great experience. The FL5 looks boring even if it's mature and I think it just feel like an FN2 but with more horsepower. This time, I think the FK8 should be my dream car along with the FD2.
Congratulations 🎉, like the look of the new R .
The new one isn’t faster then the old one tho😅 last Gen beats this car at Drag and Roll races and significantly pulls away in 3rd and 4th, it isn’t faster in any way lol
Congrats on the marriage ☺️
The looks are much better looking but ya, that wing looks totally added on.
yea the spoiler is stupid
Oh....how disappointing!!! What is YOUR take on it!
Congrats on the wedding!!! No e of us saw that coming. 😆
Between the two I’m going type r. If given a choice of anything in the segment I’d get a gti and if possible a golf r.
Golf R is AWD and can be tuned up to 600 hp without a single problem.
@@divinehatred6021 I know I love my s3. Gotta admit the golf r is faster around the track but red light to red light it’s not even a competition.
It looks like a very boring accord. It never needed a massive wing but the last gen looked better IMO. For $44,000 it should not look like a basic sedan.
I couldn't agree more
Umm the real problem with the latest gen is that it can't keep up with the previous generation in a rolling start.
It's faster on a track.
type R's arent built for roll races
also if you did your research you'd see they made the gears longer on the new one to better put down the power exiting corners
next
Civics are supposed to be small that thing is way too big to be a Civic
I love the new look of the Type R. It looks like a car again, not a Hotwheels toy! 🥳
My favorite is still the 8th gen design, that was when I fell in love with the Civic. 9th gen was also cool, especially the interior was a big upgrade, 10th gen was just way over the top though.
Glad to see they've once again struck just the right balance between normal sedan and track car design for what it is and how it (probably) performs!
And I think the spoiler does fit it quite well. I like how its shape follows the boot line and I don't mind that it looks "aftermarket"/"like an afterthought" at all. What do you expect, it's an economy sedan with track car upgrades and I commend them for not being afraid to show that. It makes so much more sense than the last model, where they seemingly designed the Type R first and then stripped the most aggressive design elements away for the base model. The result of that philosophy was one normal commuter car cosplaying as road racer and a Type R that felt awkward and desperate to look faster than it is.
8th gen type r is the best looking type r they ever made imo. I mean the ek9 is always amazing but I prefer the eg6 over it and any of them
$43,000 if you get really lucky. I was quoted $58,000 from one dealer and $$64,000 out the door from another. Not happening. Ill keep my FK8 and revisit this one in 3 years when there's many more on the market
Yea it should hopefully die down in markups sometime next year but unfortunately not by much. These are collectors cars that are going to justify markups from dealers. Especially since dealers only get one or 2 a year
@@DFDubsports, I got extremely lucky with my FK8. I traded my 2019 Si with 33,000 for $30,000 and got a 2017 Type R with 2100 miles last August that had Hondata, PRL HVI, PRL Catted downpipe, AWE Touring Exhaust, Mud Flaps, full hybrid racing shifter installed12 days before I bought it. Also had a brand new PRL frontpipe in the trunk along with all the oem parts besides the stock exhaust for $38,500. Oh and no F'ing lie a blank card in an envelope inside the glove box with $500 cash that I found a week after I bought it when I got ocd and tried to remove every spec of dust. Something like that won't happen again 😂
@@thinkforyourself5672 sweeet that was a come up for sure!
I think the real problem is how much of a mark up dealers will be adding to the already high msrp. It looks so much better than the outgoing version, it’s got more power so yeah, the only problem is cost. For the 60k it will probably be selling for, I’d rather have a certified used Audi or the like.
Agreed I have seen them go upwards of 70k in Florida!!!! You could sadly buy a scat pack for how much they are asking for the type r
And why is fk8 beating the newer one from a dig by a car lol. Stock vs stock fk8 is faster
Click bait again....
This car looks like a work of art compared to the last. It actually has a shape, not just a blob of edges and lines.
Other car looked like a crazy cool alien beetle space ship this shit looks like a beluga whale old one was wayyyy better
@@ihat3friday832 this looks like a regular ass car that's been tastefully modded and upgraded from the factory. The last car literally looked like a child's drawing. The back half of the car looked damaged in a wreck.
@@FroztiProductions nah the other car looked so badass and Japanese looking. There’s a reason dealers where marking them up $15k more than msrp. Cuz people loved them and would still buy them you moron. If you like this car over the other car just get a Honda crv at that point
Type R looks timeless, awesome addition to garage
Maybe I'm getting old or maybe its inflation but I got a 2017 Type R for $34k @MSRP so the $42k price tag on this thing is bonkers, thats more than I paid for my RHD NSX with ~33k miles on it.
$42K would be great. I was Quoted $58,500 from one dealer and $66,000 from another. I know that may not be the norm but that was 2 of 2 so I'm keeping my 2017 that has 10,000 miles on it. The Special Edition GR is the only one I would pay that kind of money for
Hey David, just curious if you'll make a reaction video to tpain and pickle Rick. I know you said you had fell back from the shop but I'm sure more people are curious about what happened with you and your 240 when it was over there.
If it must be a 4 door hatch then I'd prefer it to keep the front end and sides of the fk8 and the rear of the fl5 minus the wing. I like the smaller carbon fiberish styled spoiler of the new Si.
It's mild... put it on the same tires as the the old type R... ammm... mild. GR will have better success
As far as looks, I’m certain its a case of media vs reality. If people saw it in person the appeal would be greater, the reserved looks really benefited from the focused treatments. The lack of a real, good exhaust sound really hurts it, cause thats a bit of marketing they’re missing out on badly; no kind of emotion out of that exhaust through video. Also an issue, while updated and potentially faster, stock for stock the FK8 is faster in a roll 😳 those small things will hurt it against the new stuff that offer more personality, toys or performance
10 months later and I can guarantee the CTR wins out. The hype of the GR has fallen. It has shown issues on track. It is cheaply made.
amen congratulations on the wedding your wife you're a lucky man she's beautiful she seems like she got a good dude who seems down to earth and it's just a great Car Guy who appreciates all cars not just one type of cars but that's what I love about this channel I'm a Ford guy at heart but I've owned seven Hondas multiple Chevys multiple Buicks miniature species you name it I've owned it Nissan's Toyotas I've had them all I am like you said as you say you know you're doing blue obviously you're a Ford guy but I do want to congratulate you and your wife on the new life enjoy it
Marriage is so crazy. I can't believe a guy so young actually got married. I hope it's not a bad thing.
@@TheBasher-_- he's 32. I wouldn't say he's that young
@nonooohlii 32 is still very much young. When you get to your 50s he'll even 42 seems young. Skin still tight as a tick on a dog's ass.
To be young and naive! This kid says the elephant in the room are the looks? The car looks amazing! BTW those front side vents are to cool the brakes. The Fk8 looked like it was designed by a child w all that ugly fake plastic all over it. But the funniest part is when he quoted the sticker price. That's the real elephant in the room. See buddy you ain't buying this car for 43k! I wish! w crooked dealer markups you are looking at 58-63k maybe even 65 in some places which is just not gonna fly for anybody w a brain! The FL5 is beautiful but I'm not paying 60 grand for a Honda Civic. 🤦🤦
One big problem: It's missing 4 cylinders.
lmfao Thus is funny because my R smacks so many v8s - comical
Oh look a Fix Or Repair Daily fan lmao foh 4 bangers be smoking v8s all day and still save gas lol lame ahh fool
Why are you making money off negative comments about Honda/Acura products???!!! You are lucky Honda doesn't start lawsuit. But as someone that owns many Acura products and Honda products because I love them and my family too, it's sad Honda let you near any of its products. Should do like what Ferrari does, or whatever issues with motoman, or Fernando Alonzo.
I drive a Type R myself (mind you jusrt an old Ep3 because K-Series for win), it's a fun car everytime I get inside. Runs great in the twisties and comfortable enough for daily driving. I didn't like any of the Type R's up until this one. It's clean enough to not look absolutely tacky like the last two (seriously just overdesigned cars) but different enough to distuingish from the regular Civic. IMO it's a beautiful car and I'm one of the few people that really likes the wing. Also red carpets for the win!!
K20a owner here also 🥳
Jdm ep3 running gear swapped into my 05 em2 coupe..
Full high comp. n/a build
279 whp , revs to 9.3
Yeah
You didnt like how they look
But the Ep3 mini Van you like 🤣👌
Red mats are fine but red carpets??? That will get dirty real quick
Enjoy your 20k MSRP markup's fan bois...for that money you can get an M2 or almost a Shelby GT500. A fool and his money shall soon part (or learns to spend it more wisely to get a far superior car, your choice)
At 60k plus with markups I’m looking at something like an M2. Hard pass for now, volume proposition goes out the window at current prices.
Amen! I remember buying my Integra TypeR for msrp in '01 no question, no problem. Dealerships need to get off this disgusting greed binge they've been on. People including the content creators who pay the markups need to STOP they're just perpetuating this and making it worse unfortunately
This car is an absolute win in terms of both exterior and interior styling compared to the 10th gen Type R.
That's a fact
The new type r is miles nicer looking than the old one
I can’t get passed the looks of the GR. I think it looks Fugly. I don’t care which one performs better. IMO the Type R looks much better. I’d rather drive a car that I like looking at.
I love the new civic design so much especially the wing I only wish it had a two door variant
Congratulations on the marriage the melding of two souls is a beautiful thing, but the job doesn't end here, it's going to take work and love every day to make the best shared life you can achieve, but you can do it if you're up too it... don't ever stop trying to win each other and fight for each other, keep open lines of dialogue and mutual respect and orient yourselves towards the best possible goal you can achieve aiming upwards and with time love and faith your marriage will continue to burgeon and flourish and be filled with those kinds of things that make this life worth living
I like the rear wing, it looks great!
10th gen Si and type R ftw. Sorry but not really comparable. The new gen is slower on both models and looks boring. I think all you car tubers are paid to promote this new styling lmao.
This latest version of the type R, appeals to me alot, bought my dc2r 15 years ago, and this version has matured like many of the original type R buyers, good to have 5 doors now for those with kids, looks refined, all the mod cons etc etc
20k+ Markup.. Not for any car, especially a Honda. The new Type R looks like a family sedan and some teenager slapped a spoiler on it.
I love the 10th Gen exterior but I love the 11th Gen interior. If these things were affordable, I’d be very conflicted as to which one I’d get
I think Honda strayed away from the last gen too much. Love it or hate it, the bold design is what made the car stand out from a what is generally a boring segment in terms of design imo.
The new spoiler looks like an afterthought and overall the car looks soft.
First off…Congratulations on getting married!! I like that it looks more “mature”, but the spoiler could’ve been color-coordinated to the car. I would’ve liked to have seen it in a true hatchback as well. Can’t win them all, but they should’ve tried to keep that alive…
If the Civic, Integra etc.. have 3 back seats.. why on earth would they make the rear only 2. I have 3 kids and this is a deal breaker for me.
I think if I were in the market I'd really just want to try both, ...one of the hardest things about these Type R's is it's really hard for me to call em a *Civic,* they're huge. But, I like wagons, too, and they make a decent sized one that way, I guess. :) GR Corolla seems more rally-oriented, though so I'd be inclined to gravitate there, presuming I liked it in the real world.
On the new looks, I'm not in love with it, but actually less conflicted than about the Gundam version I'd probably want to tone down. I like the new wing, looks like tasteful aftermarket.
Very very well said my friend
Can we dispense with the term "canyon carving". 99% of the U.S. does not have canyons to carve. People are going to race this. Either on the street or the track.
Man that 360 camera is trippy, gives me a headache. Regarding the Type R, when I was a kid I LOVED the Civic Type R but after driving FWD, RWD & AWD, I MUCH prefer RWD. I stopped liking how when you punch it pulls to one side other the other. I just love the feeling of RWD cars, how you can power slide or whatever. With FWD cars they're just not that fun. For the money I'd take the Corolla GR any day over the Civic Type R. AWD is fun too as long as the RWD power is dominant.
They should of kept the aggressive front end of the previous model with the back end of the current one.
Will you make a comparison between the Golf R, GR Corolla, and Honda Type R and which one you'd ultimately?
On the way home tonight I pulled up on a last gen & while I liked them at 1st, I thought iit looks overstyled now. The new 1 looks great, except that wing. The mounts are too high up on the rear decklid. It looks like a kid mounted it in his backyard at night without any lighting.
You won't see one of these for less than $50,000, probably even $55K. Stupid money.
AYO WHAAAAATTTTT?!?!?! Congratulations on the wedding you two! Alejandra and her family all seemed so nice and welcoming I'm glad you two decided to tie the knot!
The problem is the CLOWNS 🤡 buying this car for the price the dealerships are wanting
I’ll take the Corolla GR 👌🏼
Idk about faster. Throttle house just dragged race it against the old one, and the old one won
Around the track it was. But i thought both cars had different tires which made the difference. The track times are probably around the same if anything the FL5 slightly edges it
I really like the old model civic, both inside and out (biased because I have a modded 2018 Si), and I don't dislike the outside of the new one, but I hate the screen placement in the dash. It's not just Honda, a bunch of cars are doing this now and I hate it in every instance. It makes it look like the infotainment is an afterthought.
😊😊😊😊tyyiookkkkkkkookk
i owned an fk.8 im honestly excited for this fl5 i like both designs just apprieciate it all
I get these are rally cars but the lack of a 5th seatbelt/seat really pushes me away. It was the same with the last Gen. Yes you could get an Si and mod it up but what if you really want a true type R?
Lol I hear yah, some may think you're crazy but everyone has their "deal breaker" feature they want. For me it's heated seats. At 45k there's no reason not to have them, I don't wanna hear about "weight saving" all 50k+ sport cars/trims have em, why not a typeR given what they go for now?
@@raymondamoroso2049 I didn’t even think of that! Good point
Am i the only one that despises the front end? It looks like a protruding forehead from The Croods
Looks good but that wing can go just put a nice lip off the rear lid and another thing it looks kinds fat
For a 25k mark-up from msrp…give me a ct4v black wing.
One thing is for sure: I 100% remember people hating on the fk8. Now we’re all pretending like we all liked it all along. This car might get the same treatment. Who knows. People are fickle. I think it looks good. I would like it more if it were a lightweight two door hatch, but I think a lot less people from the general public would buy it.
Absolutely not. It's a damn accord with a spoiler.
Honestly, if I can find a dealer that doesn’t mark up the type r to the moon I’d get one. Unfortunately it will probably be a minimum of 10k over msrp due to the sad shape the car industry is in right now.
GR Rolla wins he wasn’t blown away with the type R as he was with the GR 🎉
It’s better looking the last gen was made by a 13 year old
Nice to see my feeds popping up with all white new TypeR´s because embargos are for everybody and everybody went for the same press- event where Honda couldn get other colors :)
I liked Superfastmatt´s review the most, hes a truly professional :)
While the honda community goes awd, honda keep hitting the community with more fwd🤷
The only thing that turn me off, but I love the new look 🥰
I'm not a fan of how the civic looks. But congrats on the wedding David. Happy for u bud
Congrats David! Welcome to the club. Well, not until the honeymoon phase is over =p, haha. Its really cool reflecting back on all the years and where we are now. Congrats again and enjoy your new family!
Keep up the good work!