2023 Honda Civic Type-R review. Is this, the last solely petrol-powered Type-R, also the best?

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  • The new 329bhp Honda Civic Type-R is set to be the last in a long line of petrol engined only Civic Type-R models, thanks to the latest EU CO2 emission regulations. In this video I find out if this FL8 version is a fitting send-off for this legendary hot-hatch.
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  • @MrEMrC
    @MrEMrC ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My dad worked with the people from Honda at Cowley, when they were working out how to put the Honda Legend together. The managers welcomed the workers everyday, and asked the team who were putting it together for their opinion on everything to do with the car. With that attitude, it is no surprise that they get it right.

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's still a lot they got wrong as well, though.. from the factory, anyway. Of course those issues can all be fixed with aftermarket parts but there's some things that should have been done differently, imo.

    • @PaulEnglish-cq4ms
      @PaulEnglish-cq4ms 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hhasteSuch as!?🤷‍♂️

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would you say the Honda Legend Saloon/Rover 827 Fastback was a better car on the whole than the predecessor Rover SD1? it's ironic that the classic V8 RWD SD1 is far more collectable even though the 827 Fastback is roughly the same shape and is objectively better in every way (more powerful, faster, more interior space due to FWD, more fuel efficient, possibly more reliable etc). Car buyers, particularly classic car buyers, are not rational. 🙂

    • @PaulEnglish-cq4ms
      @PaulEnglish-cq4ms 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TassieLorenzo For sure you’re right the Honda Legend/Rover 827 (Honda engined as you’re no doubt aware was a good collaboration with the Honda engine & gearbox which is what Honda do brilliantly coupled with the Rover experience of ride/handling & suspension experience and good seats & interiors. The 2675cc Honda motor I think from memory was much torquier than the previous 2.5L version which was lacking in torque. The 2.7L engine was a longer stroke version I believe with offset crankpins so it’s a 90 degree V6 (more normally 60 degree for inherent balance) to obtain a lower bonnet line. I loved the Roy Axe design especially the non facelifted version, so uncluttered lines. I once fancied buying one. An interesting fact I believe a standard 2.7litre can’t remember if it was the Honda or the Rover 827. Nevertheless with just minor upgrades presumably for performance and safety, think the car just had upgraded brake pads, slick tyres a fire extinguisher. It was piloted by a helmeted Tony Pond and achieved an average speed of 100mph which was no mean feat back then.

    • @PaulEnglish-cq4ms
      @PaulEnglish-cq4ms 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TassieLorenzo Yes I definitely would. You're not wrong there the price some classic cars go for are crazy. I am subscribed to 'CAR Magazine' and its funny but some of the top designer/engineers of our generation when asked, modern car or classic often choose the modern car due to better brakes safety handling etc. Looks is always subjective i suppose.....

  • @future62
    @future62 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    I genuinely can't recall the last time Harry was so excited while driving a car. That alone is a testiment to how great this thing is.

    • @relentlesspursuit6894
      @relentlesspursuit6894 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The GR Yaris

    • @Dranreb865
      @Dranreb865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Old hags only appreciate old jags. Just like real riders they think a real motorcycle is only a Harley

    • @operationgetthugs232
      @operationgetthugs232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What bollocks. The car seems awful.

    • @future62
      @future62 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@operationgetthugs232 so since you hate this thing nobody is allowed to like it?

    • @stevenmcgeorge1983
      @stevenmcgeorge1983 ปีที่แล้ว

      He wasn't that excited. He even said that it struggles for traction and the GR Yaris is better.

  • @dtaylor9673
    @dtaylor9673 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Genuine enthusiasm from Harry, a man who has some of the most desirable super cars ever made. The new Honda Type R must be very good!

  • @ssportugal
    @ssportugal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I walked in a Honda dealership yesterday and bought one, been wanting one of these since they came out, yeah at 50k (UK) the price is steep but I think it's still worth it, specially for a Honda enthusiast like me, I've and all of the Civic Type r's including the Japanese FD2

  • @Donglethegreatone
    @Donglethegreatone ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have just taken delivery of my FL5, after owning two FK8 models. The sum of all the FL5 tweaks, although small, makes a noticeable difference. To say I am loving this iteration of the Type R is an understatement. Such an enjoyable car to drive. Admittedly, the small boy in me liked the crazy look of the FK8, but the adult in me assures me the more refined palette of design choices was the right move by Honda.

  • @simonshearing8704
    @simonshearing8704 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Happy to see Harry's opinion on the FL5, makes me even more excited for Wednesday when mine arrives!

    • @JerryFlint6
      @JerryFlint6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Get mine on Wednesday too from Grantham.

    • @Chriskreepa
      @Chriskreepa ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jaysus, you paid that money for a type r?! I mean, fair play but still…

    • @JoshuaC923
      @JoshuaC923 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wow congratulations to you two, it's always nice to have a new car smell👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🎉

    • @dblue7711
      @dblue7711 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Its £13k cheaper than an A45 or an RS3 (And a better car)

    • @shartpocalypse
      @shartpocalypse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Congrats!

  • @archiepezek
    @archiepezek ปีที่แล้ว +144

    I always enjoy your car reviews Harry. I thank you for not spending 15 minutes of the video going through all of the menus and assorted features of the infotainment system like other car reviewers seem to need to do.

    • @d33b33
      @d33b33 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's the only place where the electric cars differ. It's the only thing that reviewers have left to review. I'm exaggerating but not by much, Doug DeMuro's review of the Nissan Ariya... it's a washing machine, it has neither quirks nor features.

    • @kristisrb
      @kristisrb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@d33b33 Would disagree, tech is very very important and a differentiator, but there are a lot of other differences in these EVs (maybe even more than commuter ICE cars tbh) but most buyers don't notice and don't care. That doesn't mean the differences are not there.

    • @MdvK-d6c
      @MdvK-d6c ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kristisrb Ed Bolean described driving an EV as the event being diminished to doing a chore, like doing the laundry, or vacuum cleaning. I tend to agree, EV's are white goods.

    • @getthecansin
      @getthecansin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@kristisrb you're clearly not a car person, engines etc are visceral, something as simple as a manual gear change is pure driving, evs are just transport....nothing more

    • @getthecansin
      @getthecansin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@kristisrb when you press the on button on a Wasing machine yes it just goes...fast.......driving is more than just a to b

  • @nateisright
    @nateisright ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The interior design, materials, colours and fit are fantastic. The exterior design is mature and sober (save for the shopping cart handle and ridiculous triple exhaust outlets). A Honda in the same line as the original NSX. Well done.

    • @choosedarkness
      @choosedarkness ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How can you say you like the type r and then not get the wing and exhausts lol 😂😂😂😂

  • @J88HNT
    @J88HNT ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Type-R’s are such great cars. I have owned every model, EK9, EP3, FN2 and currently have the FK2. I couldn’t bring myself to get the FK8 even though it’s a great car. The FL5 looks amazing and am thinking I’ll be in one soon. Seeing Harry have so much fun in an R is great to see. He’s driven the best of the best so the FL5 must be good for him to be so happy to be driving one. 🙏🏽

    • @celliott16
      @celliott16 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ditto (plus all the tegs here too), apart from I couldn't get away with the looks of the fk2 or fk8, bagged an fl5 slot though, can't wait.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The FK2 is still my favourite turbo Type R! I don't think either newer model has moved the game on that much. A lot of the later upgrades like the two-piece brakes or single mass flywheel will bolt straight onto a FK2 as far as I know. ☺

    • @J88HNT
      @J88HNT ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TassieLorenzo 💯% I also bought the FK2 because of it’s rarity. 8007 built and sold world wide. In the United Kingdom there are 2250 FK2's sold which are split up as follows: Championship White, 525 cars / Milano red, 469 cars / Crystal Black Pearl, 448 cars / Brilliant Sporty Blue, 411 cars / Polished Metal Metallic, 396 cars.
      A future collectors car.

    • @tdoteva4973
      @tdoteva4973 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here I had a lot of 1.4 1.5 1.6 yeah I can see me dreaming bout this fl5

    • @yokevlee
      @yokevlee ปีที่แล้ว

      @J88HNT how would you compare ek9, ep3, fn2? and how would rate your preference of those 3? thx in adv!

  • @danmayberry1185
    @danmayberry1185 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    Love how Harry steps out of a Lotus, into a Honda, and remains objective.

    • @flyingsushi313
      @flyingsushi313 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      That's the big difference between a journalist and an influencer. Harry is top notch!

    • @celliott16
      @celliott16 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The fl5 is being compared to a gt3 by a lot of serious owners, I dare say the lotus isn't much, if any, of an upgrade to the civic 🤷

    • @humunahumunaha9770
      @humunahumunaha9770 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@celliott16 lol

    • @humunahumunaha9770
      @humunahumunaha9770 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@celliott16 but love this car! And the emira!

    • @romulus_
      @romulus_ ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@celliott16 parallels were drawn in a few aspects. but clearly not exactly an apples to.apples comparison.

  • @UpTheAnte1987
    @UpTheAnte1987 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The styling is an improvement. How could it not be? But the black spoiler on the rear gives me vibes of the family car you sometimes see parked outside Halfords

  • @frankphipps
    @frankphipps ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've watched so many reviews and I truly believe yours is the best. Love the fly by shots to hear the sound and the little bursts you do. Awesome

  • @dominicrusho
    @dominicrusho ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Given how good the standard Civic is, it would be fantastic if Honda reintroduced the Type S as a warm variant at a more accessible price point

  • @davidgrover2665
    @davidgrover2665 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video Harry - this car has so much better styling - fair play to Honda for listening to customer feedback! 👏👏👏👏

  • @ant647448336
    @ant647448336 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Very nice! I've got the bog standard Mk11 Civic hybrid and it's brilliant. Great fun to drive and still surprises me with how much power is available pretty much immediately.

    • @Android-vk8yh
      @Android-vk8yh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Apparently you're hybrid is amazing off the line. Very torguey was very tempted to get it as a family car just out of my price range. Your hybrid will probably be the platform for the next R.

  • @steveskipper6473
    @steveskipper6473 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The ultimate evolution of the FWD hot hatch which all started in 1976 with just 108hp.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@One Issue Voter True, but the first "hot" front wheel drive Honda, the 1300 Coupe 9 had about 115hp from a to 1.3L air cooled engine which was a very good output for a 60's car.
      .
      If the first post refers to the Golf GTI, many would argue the case of the Mini Cooper S or Alfa Romeo Alfasud (albeit both cars originally with a boot) as being the first hot hatch.

    • @MrManBuzz
      @MrManBuzz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@TassieLorenzo The Autobianchi A112 Abarth also has a strong argument to he called the first hot hatch.

    • @JeremiBulakowski
      @JeremiBulakowski ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrManBuzz Steve probably meant about Golf I GTI which was unveiled in 1976.

    • @MrManBuzz
      @MrManBuzz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JeremiBulakowski I know but that's a misnomer. It isn't the first hot hatch. Hell, even the Renault 5 Gordini came out before the Golf GTI did. The Golf was definitely the most successful of the first hot hatches, no denying that, but it wasn't the first.

  • @julianpmg
    @julianpmg ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm picking a red one up in two weeks...and can't wait. I know it is expensive....but what isn't these days....and every new model jumps up in price.....! And for something so good and so rare...surely it's worth it!!

    • @StrongerThanEver84
      @StrongerThanEver84 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my red one should be here within 3 weeks too :)

    • @millicentgranger6035
      @millicentgranger6035 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hows the cars 🚗 , live up too expectation?

  • @DoubleDeckerAnton
    @DoubleDeckerAnton ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If Harry's having fun, then its worth buying.

  • @MegaRetr
    @MegaRetr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy to see Harry's opinion on the FL5

  • @SHOVEL33
    @SHOVEL33 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Surprising you never mentioned the gear change Harry…….regarded as one of the best manual boxes of any car ever

    • @oambrosia
      @oambrosia ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Has Honda ever done a bad one? Even the one in my 1991 Accord was excellent.

    • @nikolagregic7709
      @nikolagregic7709 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Honda have best manual shifters in the World. So nothing strange.

    • @SHOVEL33
      @SHOVEL33 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think ye may be misunderstanding me…..the gear change in this latest Type R is stand out……it is being regarded as of of the best manual changes
      Of any car ever built….I’m just surprised it wasn’t mentioned……every other respected car journalist has mentioned it as being one of its most desirable assets
      I never mentioned anything about Honda not having nice manual gearbox’s in general…….but this gearbox is described as totally flawless

    • @SHOVEL33
      @SHOVEL33 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And BTW…..I love Harry’s vids…… he is a total gentleman,and one of my favourite car gurus…….he is fantastic

    • @ekimandersom4478
      @ekimandersom4478 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SHOVEL33 Whatever.

  • @apolloandratti7922
    @apolloandratti7922 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Great review Harry! I would like to see you revisit the S2000 as we close the pure internal combustion age for Honda. Subscribers: Please reply here if you are willing to let Harry drive your S2000 in the UK. Ideally the car would be mostly in stock form, preserving the original ethos of the car.

    • @MuadDib1402
      @MuadDib1402 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He can borrow mine if he wants. :)

    • @apolloandratti7922
      @apolloandratti7922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MuadDib1402 excellent!! I hope Harry reads this.

    • @hanseriksson6742
      @hanseriksson6742 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He can borrow mine, which is 100% stock except from a K&N FIPK. I see his favourite test road from my window the B4437 west of Charlbury - in fact I often see Harry there.

  • @jamsxr
    @jamsxr ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks Harry. The practically element helped get it passed the gatekeeper 😅 Can’t wait to get mine.

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I love about Harry's reviews is that despite being someone who's driven the balls of cars in the past and clearly has an appreciation for performance and driving on track. his reviews alway include how the cars can be used in reality/daily life storage, practicality and how they woudl be to live with add to that his experience of communicating and you really feel you have an understanding of the spirit of the car and how it would be to live with as awell as the raw numbers. By far the best car reviews on the internet that I know of.

  • @mattyz206
    @mattyz206 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh he just started following this page from this video, cracking presentation from you sir!

  • @TedwardDrives
    @TedwardDrives ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad to hear it Harry!

    • @Cyro268
      @Cyro268 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to see Tedward's comment here as well!

  • @qwerty69600
    @qwerty69600 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Same response I posted on the older CTR video. The 3 exhausts are actually functional and a clever engineering design that allows the engine to sound good at low speeds, but not drone at high speeds. There's plenty of info online about it. I do like this channel, but this was another stark reminder that Harry is just another car reviewer and by no means any kind of authority to talk on the engineering or technical details of the cars he reviews.

    • @steve83jack
      @steve83jack 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. Same with the comment on the side vent on the FK8, it was functional. I have an fk8

  • @nahidrahman
    @nahidrahman ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Perfection. Love this car, and in real life probably the only car you’d ever need. I was blown away by how amazing the FK8 was to drive, I can imagine this just perfecting upon it. ❤ 🇯🇵

  • @pl1068
    @pl1068 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember when the 1995 Volvo 850 T-5R with 240 bhp was the limit front wheel drive could handle, it looks like the engineers will always find a solution.

  • @Jpjc474
    @Jpjc474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the review of the FL5 I’ve been waiting for!
    Thanks Harry.

  • @anthonybrand6137
    @anthonybrand6137 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for another honest review Harry. There really is a lot to like about this car, until you get to the price!

  • @brucedriffill7668
    @brucedriffill7668 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Good to see they've not tried to get rid of all the imperfections, gives the car a bit of character and also means the driver has to think about how to drive round them. Can't believe the power, used to around 240 bhp was seen to be the limit for FWD

    • @devilsoffspring5519
      @devilsoffspring5519 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Essentially any amount of power can be used with an FWD car, you just can't make use of most of it until you're going fast enough to be in the higher gears.
      Mash it in first and you get powdered rubber instead of acceleration.

  • @mohammadsattar5488
    @mohammadsattar5488 ปีที่แล้ว

    He had a constant smile.on his face which shows just how good that car is and how down to earth Harry is too.

  • @nattcharles
    @nattcharles ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love Hondas. Was one of the first to import an EK9 and DC5. Two of my favourite cars of the 30+ cars I’ve had. Currently got a 2017 NSX NC1 it wears a Honda badge although not strictly Honda as made by Acura in the USA nonetheless it feels Honda.

  • @REVLIMITER3
    @REVLIMITER3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2023 Honda Civic Type R is the best Honda ever made hands down !!!

  • @BigBear--
    @BigBear-- ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I seem to always have to correct some reviewers on the following. The front bumper side "fake vents" (as they call them), are actually a functional aspect of the aero setup. They are air kickouts, to maintain a laminal flow of air past the front wheel well, rather than sending a turbulent flow that gets sucked into the wheel well. Reason is because they have air rams in the front to pump cool air into the front brake setup, and a vent in the back of the wheel well to let that air out - it maintains a low pressure zone without letting high pressure buildup which leads to front end lift. If they didn't have these side air kickouts the air going around the front bumper would get sucked into the wheel well and interrupt that low pressure flow.
    The other point is he claims the rear diffuser isn't functional. That's also incorrect, the bottom of the car is almost complet flatly sealed. In particular the engineers paid attention to the rear diffuser this time around and made it even more functional than the FK8. All the aero on this car is functional, none of it is just for show. That's another thing I love about this latest generation Type-R.

    • @jeremyb4493
      @jeremyb4493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good info, however painting part of it black does give it a resemblance of a non functional inlet so the misunderstanding isn't surprising.

    • @BigBear--
      @BigBear-- ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@jeremyb4493 It's not like its a standalone item painted black. Its part of the front splitter that flows into that air kickout.

    • @CerberusTenshi
      @CerberusTenshi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same goes for the FK8. The vents reviewers claim are fake are actually functional.

    • @BigBear--
      @BigBear-- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CerberusTenshi Yeah...while it has some functional pieces, It also has a bunch of fake vents.

    • @CerberusTenshi
      @CerberusTenshi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigBear-- Granted, some pieces are not functional in terms of aero, but I rather have them as design points, than have the car look like an EQE.
      Also, as with the Supra, it's an easy fix to turn those fake vents into real ones. There are plenty of options. From low budget to big budget.

  • @CU-nz9ud
    @CU-nz9ud ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These things look incredible in 3D….in real life…. on the road. Much better than on tv.

  • @cepheus7850
    @cepheus7850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The color along with the rear end and the wing on this Civic Type-R give me some Alpine A110 vibes. Fun review to watch and the nice little slow motion shot at the end was a nice touch. 👍

  • @ryanfried8393
    @ryanfried8393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats my favorite looking civic!! That colour looks amazing and the black..
    You know it's good when it impresses Harry

  • @celliott16
    @celliott16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a final swan song for the ICE TYPE-R, knocked it out the park, love it 😍😍😍

  • @baywong893
    @baywong893 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love these reviews - please can you do a GR Yaris Vs FL5 comparison?

  • @saucey99
    @saucey99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    this type r is beating supercars on track its wild!

  • @dazfrombramley
    @dazfrombramley ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always have a soft spot for Type R civics. I had an EP3 for 11 years and I abused the heck out of it every day and it never once missed a beat, cost me pennies in maintenance and it was the most fun car I've owned. I still would be tempted to come out of my Tesla Model 3 performance for one of these, if the EV used market has just taken a huge dump

  • @danpatterson8009
    @danpatterson8009 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Glad to see they toned down the styling. Think I'd prefer that much power through the rear wheels, though.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wouldn't we all! But almost none of the mid-sized "executive" sedans are actually available with a manual transmission anymore. While with the disappearance of the BMW, now literally none of the C-segment hatchbacks have rear wheel drive.
      Edit - Where the Genesis G70, rear wheel drive, and Hyundai i30N, front wheel drive, share the same engine, the G70 weighs 150kg more for some reason. You could get a manual in both but the general flavour of the G70 isn't as sporty as the N for whatever reason.

    • @ekimandersom4478
      @ekimandersom4478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TassieLorenzo BMW 240i is

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ekimandersom4478 True, but that's a coupe. The hatchback and sedan -- the 128ti, M135i xDrive and M235i Gran Coupe xDrive are both front wheel drive based or FWD + a Haldex-style system.

  • @Murtayafourfun
    @Murtayafourfun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review as always and I loved the comparison to the GR Yaris at the end, high praise.

  • @jackflowers999
    @jackflowers999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the one in classic
    champion white ,,,no regrets....love it every day!

  • @johnbrown3951
    @johnbrown3951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I nearly bought the Type R Civic in 2002 to replace my Accord 1.8 but instead went with a Freelander and am glad I did as my job moved me to an island where fuel costs were greatly increased and four wheel drive was a bonus. I recently got a Rally Red Civic 2019 with the 180hp and I love it and the toys and fuel consumption really surprised me. It is really nimble and a breeze to drive on motorways with adaptive cruise and lane assist where it nearly drives itself. Honda for me going forward as I am really impressed. That car in the blue colour looked really good but it would be red for me if my numbers came up.

  • @Steve-gc5nt
    @Steve-gc5nt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so happy that Honda have now learned how to do a dashboard.

  • @stufirewalker
    @stufirewalker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Harry, brilliant video, as ever.
    I am quite disappointed with your council as they have still not repaired that huge pothole on your favourite bend, its been getting worse for, what seems, years

  • @sweetfreedomGB
    @sweetfreedomGB ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Not my sort of a car but I will watch this anyway because it's Sunday, and it's Harry.

  • @installwebercarburetorsona6159
    @installwebercarburetorsona6159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Harry’s smile says he’s still a boy racer at heart.

  • @rjcontruction1406
    @rjcontruction1406 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your excitement was contagious, in interested in This type R based on your raw emotion of fun alone.

  • @mkbadlands5346
    @mkbadlands5346 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I absolutely enjoy all your videos. This is the one I’ve been waiting for!! 👍
    If only it was a few minutes longer 🙏

  • @tedt7991
    @tedt7991 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That is a huge car, looks bigger than a c class, now way this is a hot hatch, a saloon yes

  • @benjamincolumbus
    @benjamincolumbus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really love what they did with the dashboard vents

  • @newbeginnings8566
    @newbeginnings8566 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is a great vehicle.. I was in a blue one and I was surprised at how much I liked the colour..
    The engine is a gem, the chassis feels so secure.. Reliable Honda made in Japan..
    If you have the money just go and get one.. It's worth it.

    • @dblue7711
      @dblue7711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can try - all sold out and long waiting lists. Pay a premium for a del miles one your only option (in the UK anyway)

  • @MattyMacPhotography
    @MattyMacPhotography ปีที่แล้ว

    You were polite about the rude look of the previous version. It was a dropped pie of design. Thanks again mate 🙂

  • @BeKindpls
    @BeKindpls ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video as per Harry. Be great to see you think what went for a song (and sold expensively) with each of the Silverstone Auctions too

  • @patrickhostler5939
    @patrickhostler5939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You wonder why Honda don’t increase production, if the demand is there! Great to see a ‘practical family’ car that focuses on fun, driving engagement and performance. £47k is a lot of dough though

  • @TTGT2000
    @TTGT2000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good review as usual, great cars presented, many references in their categories. I do regret not seeing a review, in the same fashion as these other hot-hatches, of the Ford Focus RS Mk3 in its stock form. I think, as a proper Ford Performance product, it deserves a say on the channel and be objectively put in the balance with the other players (golf r, civic, gr yaris etc.). I do not know the reasons for not being reviewed but for sure it will complete the channel's reach and coverage of milestone chapters in automotive history. Looking forward to that sir!

    • @limpet7r63
      @limpet7r63 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I can't see how anyone can claim to be a hot hatch fan and ignore Hyundai at the moment. Just as people say the Civic Type R is what Porsche would build if they made a front wheel drive hatch, I'd argue the i30N is what BMW's M Division would build. Or would have when Albert Biermann was running it, anyway, given it was engineered by the same guy who gave us the E46 M3 and E39 M5

  • @jakedeutscher
    @jakedeutscher ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Harry's Garage approves it, it must be a great driving vehicle.

    • @stevenmcgeorge1983
      @stevenmcgeorge1983 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're paid reviews mate.

    • @jakedeutscher
      @jakedeutscher ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenmcgeorge1983 of course, but they are honest.

  • @steffydog
    @steffydog ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely to see, always a fab video review, thanks Harry. Keep well.

  • @michaelk1051
    @michaelk1051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Getting a Championship White one but damn that Boost Blue looks good as well.

  • @nickipedley5
    @nickipedley5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Really like the Honda and Yaris. Breaking traction is just part of the character. You can bring in the power progressively to avoid spinning up, but sometimes the scramble for grip adds to the excitement.

    • @sk-un5jq
      @sk-un5jq ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true!

  • @robinrai4973
    @robinrai4973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how this looks less silly than the last one
    I kinda don't understand how it's still front wheel drive at that much cost, but certainly looks fun

  • @TheFunkhouser
    @TheFunkhouser ปีที่แล้ว

    A hybrid Type-R WILL be epic!
    And remember, back in the day not that long ago, Honda were doing very well in track racing! They had many wins!

  • @benpenagonzales6014
    @benpenagonzales6014 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd have waited for this but only 2 rear seats and got 3 kids! And at 50k... got hyundai i20N as half price and 5 years warranty. And near 400kgs lighter. Like the late 70s, hot hatch is the answer!

  • @dannelleabajar4703
    @dannelleabajar4703 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the best first car/daily driver for enthusiasts.

  • @80six30
    @80six30 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I was so eagerly awaiting this car to appear on Harry’s channel and I was equally eager on his verdict. I have one on order here in Australia and I don’t care about the 12 month waiting list, as I’m currently driving and FK8 to fill the void until it arrives. I was happy to just get my order in to be honest as production is lower in Australia also. Thanks Harry, absolutely love the channel. (I’m also an EVO reader, it just takes a little longer to arrive , but always worth the wait).

    • @Fluterra
      @Fluterra ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Getting an order in means nothing. Dealers will happily take your deposit and then try to get you into another car. Most people who “have one on order” won’t get one, unfortunately.
      Do the math on production and the number of global Honda dealers.
      Besides, the Australian pricing is insane. $200K for a Honda?! Come on.

    • @caffeinefix2751
      @caffeinefix2751 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Fluterra 72k mate

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@caffeinefix2751 Fixed price too without markups given the agency model in Australia. It is a big increase on the price of the FK8, but oh well.

    • @80six30
      @80six30 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Fluterra I don’t know where you got $200,000 from mate, $72,600 drive away

    • @80six30
      @80six30 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TassieLorenzo you are right, I currently have a 2019 FK8 , I paid $57,000 for it new then. Then the facelift came out they went up to $62,000 drive away.

  • @airthreypark
    @airthreypark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a motor.....not often I burn with desire to get my hands on a new car and this is one of those times.....

  • @happysporran
    @happysporran ปีที่แล้ว

    Mixed emotions..a type r, but the end of an era but at a high modern price. Nostalgia that reminds me how much things have changed.

  • @piromantm
    @piromantm ปีที่แล้ว

    So much excitement even before setting off. This car has to be special

  • @14KShadow
    @14KShadow ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the interior is the standout feature with this new Type-R
    Pleasure to watch you giving it the full beans 11:57

  • @ricmech9128
    @ricmech9128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harry keeping it real. You have to love him for that. Thanks again!

  • @gr1ff1ngton
    @gr1ff1ngton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My only gripe with this is the size (& number of doors). Looks like a great car for those that need the room though.

  • @georgiaguardian4696
    @georgiaguardian4696 ปีที่แล้ว

    This just broke FWD world record in Nurburgring at 1/3 a 1/5 of those super car prices and it’s a daily driver. I think this is the appeal of this hyper Civic. Well done Honda.

  • @obfuscator
    @obfuscator ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great review, as always. I kept trying to to imagine this Type R without a wing, that would be my first thing to take off.

    • @relentlesspursuit6894
      @relentlesspursuit6894 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be the Honda Civic 😀 - Honda have taken their dull mainstream hatchback, added a wing, some more bits stuck on and badged it the "R" 😀

    • @joahsprenger
      @joahsprenger ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Actually almost all the panels are different except the doors, its been done quite subtle though

    • @van_der_lindeDA
      @van_der_lindeDA ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Relentless Pursuit keep trying bro....

    • @relentlesspursuit6894
      @relentlesspursuit6894 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@van_der_lindeDA 😴😴😴

    • @ROVA00
      @ROVA00 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@relentlesspursuit6894you are clueless 😂

  • @phils2180
    @phils2180 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honda could sell everyone of these that they make, twice over. The phrase "well, it's a Honda" pretty much says it all for benchmark reliability. Add "Type R" and you just know it'll be something special. I wasn't a big fan of the angular "transformer" looks of the old model but they've put that to bed nicely with this one.👍 A bigger car than the Yaris and some 140+Kg heavier which might well give the little 'Yota an edge in tight twisties but maybe not as practical as an everyday driver.

  • @deanreillyMMA
    @deanreillyMMA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had an integra type R in the early 00s. would love to see you get one in a do a review of it

  • @ALTRON3
    @ALTRON3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That actually doesn't look bad at all. way better looking than recent civics . more mature .

  • @daygon128
    @daygon128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If there was ever a car that captured the essence of juvenility, it's this.

  • @hughmcneillie1032
    @hughmcneillie1032 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    On the previous FK8 Type R it's very easy to get 40mpg on a motorway run and average of 35mpg on normal drives. This new Civic is clearly a step up in quality and I see Audi A7 side on. As much as I like it I'll be holding off a year and seeing if price drops for a low mileage.

    • @dblue7711
      @dblue7711 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well supply is so short and demand so high I reckon these will be trading above list for the foreseeable.

    • @AutopiaUK
      @AutopiaUK ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Price drop? Lol. They are currently £10k over list in the UK and far worse in the US.

    • @WDLC1911
      @WDLC1911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AutopiaUK
      Same in the USA.

    • @ROVA00
      @ROVA00 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree with the Audi-like lines, especially the rear half.

  • @xelawash
    @xelawash ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES!!! You finally reviewed it!!! ❤👍

  • @anthonypaterson7066
    @anthonypaterson7066 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Harry, is this the ultimate pocket rocket? Very entertaining as usual. Thanks.

  • @seinsmeld13
    @seinsmeld13 ปีที่แล้ว

    $52,000 Canadian is the starting price for this car here in Canada. It looks better than the previous version however air don't like the rear spoiler. Nice review Harry. Cheers.

    • @f181234
      @f181234 ปีที่แล้ว

      $50k CAD is nothing for a new car nowadays especially in Canada people are buying $60k Trucks and Jeeps like crazy

  • @howardlake6178
    @howardlake6178 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely…ADORE that. The best colour as well. But Harry…..this video highlights something I have said in numerous videos. How many turns lock to lock. I won’t get grumpy and go elsewhere 😂

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo ปีที่แล้ว

      "How many turns lock to lock." About two turns I think (14:1 on centre, 11.5:1 near full lock, it's a variable ratio rack). The actual maximum steering lock angle is obviously not the forte of a front wheel drive car with very wide front tyres. Many five point turns shall ensue!

  • @marklee7545
    @marklee7545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The price just shows what good value the GR Yaris is, plus that’s a genuine competition-derived car.

    • @stevenmcgeorge1983
      @stevenmcgeorge1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No traction issues and much better 0-60 too.

  • @colinocallaghan3912
    @colinocallaghan3912 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant review as always

  • @rogerpayne5336
    @rogerpayne5336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saw one of these a couple of days ago - black on black - and it look mean as....The price is madness but in the metal it has good presence.....As a side note ; a Fiat 20vt Coupe from the 90's made 612bhp also fwd ,and was easily drivable , 330hp is defo not the fwd limit.

  • @1ongava
    @1ongava ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Driving the absolute hot hatch in a Patek, fabulous dichotomy.

    • @hpman911
      @hpman911 ปีที่แล้ว

      ??? and your point is what?

    • @1ongava
      @1ongava ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jonathan White I was remarking at the contrast of a simple, elegant timepiece from one of Holy trinity versus the modern Japanese Civic in its lessened, yet boisterous appearance.

  • @imyeg6
    @imyeg6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review Harry. Looks like a worthy upgrade to my Honda Integra.

  • @NigelsModellingBench
    @NigelsModellingBench ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sure is a great package, and very pretty too, but at nearly twice the price of my GRY Circuit pack, no thanks...

  • @edwardleigh-firbank7835
    @edwardleigh-firbank7835 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was waiting for you to get this new tyre r. Have always loved honda and had a lot of honda products over the years. Racing Heritage means a great deal in my book, and this car is the outcome of that . Its nice to see quite alot of people appreciate that. This is what honda is all about. Great review great car!! Special car!!

  • @brettsuddreth5171
    @brettsuddreth5171 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this new type r, wasn’t a huge fan of the looks of the last one but this one is a home run

  • @WeirdSeagul
    @WeirdSeagul ปีที่แล้ว

    they just listened to every complaint on the previous gen and refined the good bits. will be regarded as one of the best Type-Rs

  • @jacobjensen408
    @jacobjensen408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a Civic V-TEC 1,6 with 160 hk. good cars with great handling, but it demands that you always are in high rpm. if you want power, and that can tire you out,
    but why did they not put 4WD on it? Good video from Harry as always.

  • @knoblis
    @knoblis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does this new version have that anti-torque steer geometry?

  • @Glyn69
    @Glyn69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looked at a standard car new 2 months back fit finsh warranty was excellent , also out of all the delaerships i visited Honda were by far the most profesional so bought a used Honda

  • @lenkak8206
    @lenkak8206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent car! Really like the standard Civic as well, pity you dont see them much in the EU

  • @Chuck88vert
    @Chuck88vert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always

  • @limpet7r63
    @limpet7r63 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    One company very much flying the flag for traditional combustion powered, manual front drive hot hatches at the moment is Hyundai, and most of the motoring press, including Evo, have been waxing lyrical about both the i20N and i30N.
    Would love to see Harry’s take on these cars. Seriously doubt they are as polished as the Civic, but I wouldn’t bet on them being significantly less fun.