The 2023 Toyota Corolla GR RUINED the Hot Hatch Market (Seriously)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- The Toyota Corolla GR is FINALLY HERE! Possibly the most hyped up car of the year is a 100% Toyota built hot hatch that has big promises. With all wheel drive, 300HP, and so much more to offer - the GR Corolla is almost in a league of its own with no Ford Focus RS, Mitsubishi Evo, or Subaru STI to challenge it in the market. So was it worth all the hype? Let's for a drive and find out.
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Chapters
0:00 Epic hot boi intro
1:37 GR FREAKIN' COROLLA
2:00 So..why is it special?
2:50 the price actually is good for once
3:27 The GR-Four AWD system is brilliant
4:00 My first acceleration
4:12 The aftermarket will be amazing
4:37 it doesn't sound awful somehow
5:00 What's it like on track?
5:50 Pushing the GR to its steering limit
6:07 The internet literally lost their mind
6:31The competitors might be in trouble
7:02 Price differences
7:51 Does the power split make a difference?
8:55 Interior
9:37 How's the Manual transmission?
10:20 you have plenty of options
11:21 It's almost three different cars in one
12:15 the car is lightning in a bottle
13:04 Final chapter - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
"Nice WRX dude"
You killed the Intro man!
"Nice Celica GT4 dude"
It's actually faster than the last gen sti surprisingly.
I daily a Toyota at work and I just imagined driving this at work and guess what scooping dog crap never sounded so fun 😂👍🏻
WRX 😂 no this one is actually reliable.
I really hope Toyota is gonna be able to meet demand for this car, I went to my Toyota dealership today and they said they were only going to get 5 of them
Just think how many dealers there are in America vs how many GRollas made a year. This car will sell out fast.
@@CACressida that's what the original comment was saying. They're going to sell out super fast, toyota isn't even going to make enough for the demand. Especially when dealerships only get a couple of them
Yea when type Rs came out it was the same shit. My dealer said only 4. Ended up now with a total of 30
I work for toyota. They're only making so many. So they don't need to keep up with demand. They r producing only so many there there is already a line. So good luck getting one.
@@baconpranks6005 right when they announced it I went to 7 dealerships and put my name on there list and once a month I go down and bug them, so I hope I can get one 🤞
What these car companies don't understand is that if Mitsubishi resold the EVO X or 9 with literally just minor updates they'd make bank. I think the demand is there now.
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I feel like a lot of companies are losing touch with their core consumers. Getting rid of options that made people choose their products in the first place (Samsung getting rid of the micro sd card slot on flagship and high end models comes to mind) making absolutely boring shit (Mitsubishi). End of day, most people wouldn't know how to actually run these companies, but at least they wouldn't be so out of touch with what the people want.
Sadly all that tooling is prolly gone or unuseable.
not really. The enthusiast market is tiny. Hell even most of these hyped up cars people don't want to deal with. That's why you can get them for $5k off or more the next year with 5,000 miles or less. People love the idea of sporty but most people hate actually dealing with the reality.
Spot on... Just a tiny facelift and they would kill it
Man I’m actually excited to see this car. But I know the dealership markups are going to kill it to the point of them dropping it like the Ford Focus rs. Shit the gr86 out here in SoCal is getting 7-10k markups if you can find one same for the supra
You can get a GR86 near MSRP out here in the east typically. At least from my experience.
I’ve totally never looked at getting one I promise. 🙃
I just paid 62k for a golf r after waiting all summer looking for one. All these cool hatches are marked way up
Toyota doesn’t do mark ups ! Atleast where I am
@@ThatDudeinBlue yeah I love the car and daily drive a 16 FRS and all the local ones out here by me are just to marked up even had a salesperson tell me there asking 40k+ for them when a was out running around and had non on the lot
@@Aaronfunethebarber I found at least 3 dealerships in Oregon that don't do markups
This car is one of the best hot hatches to release within the past 5 years. It reminds me a lot of my 2010 sti, but obviously more up to date in many areas.
Always love when you use this song for the intros, usually a special video. I want one of these cars so bad
I literally feel goosebumps when you said that toyota is more excited what people will do with the car and the aftermarket support of it. This car is so AWESOME! 😎
Bet someday you'll see it in Drag race😂
Sold. I'm getting this car now. Seriously your review of it sold me on it better than any salesman would. I hope Toyota knows you're helping then sell a ton of these
I think the last really "sporty" Corolla we got in the states was the 05-06 XRS, which had the Lotus Elise powertrain in it. I'm happy to see we are getting a PROPER followup that will put the competition on its toes and is opening Toyota up to building more "fun" cars outside of the Supra, GR86, and GR Yaris
Never heard of the XRS. That's pretty cool.
I still have my xrs! Thing is fun
I think it’s funny that Toyota was FIRST to have a mass produced high revving 4 with the hard cam changeover point, yet Honda get all the love with V-Tec and Toyota gets no love with VVTL-i. Corolla XRS are hard to find, there are a few Matrix XRS laying around. If you can, go drive one, lots of fun.
Did it really have a lotus Elise powertrain in it? I'm assuming the lotus Elise powertrain is just a toyota motor and transmission, so calling it a lotus powertrain isn't exactly the truth. Maybe I'm wrong, I know absolutely nothing about the xrs
Edit- yes, the lotus has a toyota 2zrfe... your corolla doesn't have a lotus badge yet. Nothing against the toyota
@@trashbandit2449 the Elise had a 2zzge in it which was the celica gts and corolla xrs motor, so it had a toyota motor. Idk what the new Elises have tho
This makes me actually want to buy a new car for once. If I had the money, I would actually try to get this. This is the perfect daily driver for snowy climates like Colorado where I live.
But throw a 2JZ in it? LOL
@@Unxpekted no
@@MrInternFTL lolol, not even sure how it would fit, prob need to customize the bay but that thing would be a terror. Is the current motor capable of big power?
@@Unxpekted yes
why would you do such a horrible thing
so unmature
I'm loving these openings you've been doing. Really good energy.
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The transition from the gr gauges to the tdib intro was so cool!!! 😮😊
Definitely my most hyped car i wont be able to buy for at least 10 years. ill buy a used one with 120,000 miles someday.
That's really only at 1/4 life for a toyota! I'm right there with ya!
Wow the cinematography in this was next level! I hope you saw that Toyota has confirmed they put this motor in the gt86... Love this!
Love that you used the same music as the BLUEJZ review!
That cinematic intro and music choice was perfect man
Youre one of the only reviewers who says the ass end kicks out in the 70-30. Everyone seems to say it understeers heavily.
This car is the perfect car for me persoanlly and one ive been seeking for FOREVER. Its awd, hatch, daily drivable, can have fun both on/off a track, hell even the interior looks incredible with the right notches for volume, a/c ect. and the rear seats too for passengers or more needed space. I want this car SO bad, probably like a lot of other people right now. Just hoping to get a good deal without a 10-20k markup at dealerships..
I feel exactly the same way about it. Perfect daily for the stage of life I’m in right now. (Early 30’s, first kid on the way)
@@Bp2181991 Feel the same way, except for the age and kids that is. I'm 72
Literally 1 out of 1,000,000 people ever go to a track. The numbers are probably less then that actually,
@@celebratecrypto3693 You reminded me of the pitch Subaru tossed out for the new WRX, plastic wheel arches for off road. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who hasn't taken their WRX for a spin in the wild.
Awesome intro and video altogether David👍🏼 I hope to own one of these in the future 😩😭
Keep up the reviews bro love to see it!
I've been more excited about this release than any other JDM sports car over the last 2 years. I've seen some people modify the sport model of the 2020 corolla hatch chassis and looks pretty aggressive. a lot of potential was always their and toyota just knows what to do these days!.
First time in a long time I have actually wanted a new car. This is an amazing machine!
Omg Dave: keep the drum and bass tracks in ur vids. This song is pure🔥. I Had to take spin in my sti after hearing it!
Love the D&B intro! Really an underrated genre!
Ahhh! I wanted to get an Evo but at the same time feel like I should wait for the GR cause damn I'm hearing nothing but magnificent things about it.
Bro… mitsubishi motors is dunzo
As an overall package is much better.
And it’s more reliable than an evo…
@@its-ascencio1351 😂 it’s all in how you drive my dude
Ive seen most of the driving reviews and tbh the GR Corolla looks lackluster for all the hype it has. Would easily take an Evo any day of the week over GR
The dealer mark up on these is gunna be insane
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Good transition on the gauge cluster David
It won't ruin the market because they will be low in supply and high in price. Like every enthusiast car coming out lately. Will probably end up with a S650 Mustang GT when they come out. At least Ford will make enough you will be able to find them easily and won't be marked up 20k over sticker.
Same here. I have a 2016 STI and I'm itching for something new. Everything is marked up so I'll probably end up with the S650 GT as well. It's sad really that my purchase decision is based on markups.
Always loved the hot hatch market. Was looking at a Golf but ended up with an Elantra GT NLine that I'm pretty happy with but if I can manage to find one of the Circuit editions I just might have to trade in!
Why not get a Civic Si? Is it more expensive? I'd much rather get a Honda than a VAG or some korean shit, but then again I'm not really in the market for new cars lmao
Don't do that Bro, Elantra is much better....
Love this video!! This is a great car and I can't wait to see more of it on the streets. Awesome work!
Great video!
I can’t wait for the engine from this to make its way into other things (I give it a year before someone puts it in a Miata)
I already want to swap it into an old S12 hatch, I think that’d be the coolest thing ever
They're already testing it in the GR86!
Just hope i can actually get a Core with the performance package near sticker price but i doubt it
just wait a year or two and dealers will be desperate to sell any car...
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 I think you’re right, the economy is likely about to crash hard.
Make that two
Finally!!! Been waiting all day for this one!!!
You can always which cars are david's favorite cars. Listen to the intro he play 3 songs for cars at the top of his list this is one.
Love you guys
So after buying one Cold air intake, Exhaust, BOV, Tune. Everyone's dream 🔥 hatch!
It's going to be impossible to tune almost, they've had that same issue with other platforms
Yeah man! Can't wait for all of the R&D from the GR Yaris come over to the US! I'm sure the ecu will be a little different, but the tune-ability of this motor is going to be fantastic! 350-400whp AWD Corolla Hatch, 255's on all 4 corners wrapped in Hoosiers A7's, 15-20mm lowering springs and maybe the Monotube dampers from the Morizo Edition...
The classic stock turbo mods.
@@Augie.. What are you talking about? The yaris is an extremely tuneable platform
@@Augie.. talkin out ya bum mate
I've always loved the newer Corolla hatchback. Even the se looks decent. The XSE looks even nicer, but more of a low hp non turbo commuter to work. Now having 300hp, awd, and all the extra stuff... you can't tell me you wouldn't want one. I just hope they continue with it and It's not something hard to get ahold of. It's all of supply and demand, but then the dealerships mark everything up.
I still think Toyota is going in the right direction compared to so many other car manufacturers. Trd and Gr everything!
Me too I nearly bought a regular corolla hatchback, but ended up getting a Mazda 3 hatch because I could actually find one in manual. Saw all those ads online about the corolla hatchback having a manual and I could never find one
Not saying they aren't decently impressive. But I can tell you I wouldn't want one. Already have a GTI for regular, mid-level, hot-hatch fun. And already have a GT3RS for when I want more fun than that. So yeah, the GR Corolla is decent I'm sure, but still meh for me.
@@xtnuser5338 I mean I would expect that from someone who has a 911 GT3RS. The corolla hatch is pretty good for a vehicle that is 10 grand less than a GTI.
Edit: ignore that I realize you were talking about the GR corolla, I thought we were still talking about the base corolla hatch on this thread
@@BayAreaRushHour Before all this new GR hype going around, it's been a decade or two since I've even THOUGHT about a Corolla. The last thing I remember was seeing a Corolla S go down the highway. I thought, "S? Corolla S??? What the heck could they possibly do to a Corolla to make it worth of slapping an S badge on it?????" I figured it was Toyota's pathetic typical method of slapping on 90's style aftermarket-looking body kit parts and considering it a new/improved model. (LOL hey I am aware that Porsche has played that game from time to time also.) In my mind a Corolla was for the poor souls who just didn't give a shit what kind of driving experience they got.
Now comes along some new GR stuff in my youtube. People yapping about how great it is. And I'm like, a Corolla? So I watch some, and I'm suitably impressed. But I'm wondering if it's just a hotrodded Corolla of old, or is it actually a better car now than I remember? I mean, does the hype stand up on it's own, or must it all be qualified with, "...for a Corolla?"
@@xtnuser5338 they hype is mostly because of the GR Yaris over in Europe, there was a 18 month waitlist for it because it was a rally homologation special. We in America really wanted the GR Yaris, but our Yaris is a rebadged Mazda 2, different from the European Yaris. So since they were not bringing the GR Yaris over, they stuck the internals into a corolla hatch basically, and that’s what the GR Corolla is.
That intro, actually, gave me some unmatched Forza Horizon 1 vibes. Thanks David, didn't know I needed that :' )
Been waiting for a real review so thank you, but how does it compare to the Golf R/S3 platform?
I really wish I had the money for this car. I would buy it at a reasonable price in a heart beat.
these will do 10.5s 1/4mile @131mph with the (Lamspeed turbo kit) stock internals hold up easily still too!
Good review!
Just looked through the comments cause I was hoping I wasn't the only person with this reaction but apparently I am... *I literally CHOKED on my drink when he said "$49,000 Corolla"*
Maybe I am just too old already for the car market right now (34 years old) but geez, it seems like there are no affordable fun cars anymore
Toyota has the right idea here, they've been making all the right calls lately
Hopefully dealers won’t add crazy markup..
Praying to the car gods 🙏🏻
It will easily sell for 10-20k more at the dealers. Don't hold your breath.
Patiently waiting for you to drop a video about the reveal of the s650 last night interested to hear your thoughts
Get excited! i have had my GR Yaris for a year now. but 11k miles on it. Miltek exhaust, H&R lowering springs, turbosmart bov, Gram lights wheels. perfect daily all year round. A lot of snow too here in norway. Here the Gr Yaris costs 65 000 usd new...
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Just imagine if you guys got the GR Yaris, then you’d have the hot hatch killer instead of the fatter less focused GR Corolla! 😜
Great vid/production 😎
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What does less focus mean?
@@SomeOne_86 the GR Yaris is a WRC purpose built chassis vs the Corolla which is a family production car that’s been modified. The Corolla is way more practical but the GRY is designed to be a light rally car
@@artistintheambulance Yes, I know that. I just didn't really understand what you meant by "less focus", I guess english is not your first language and you probably tried to translate something? It happens a lot to me, since english is not my first language either haha.
@@SomeOne_86 The rest of us English speakers know what he means. The GR Corolla is not as focused (on pure performance pleasure) as the GR Yaris is. The word focus meaning to be concentrated on a specific thing/task/goal.
I like it better with the bigger rear roof wing. This car is going to be awesome
Same here. It looks awkward without the big rear wing
Love the “LEGO Hands” analogy 😄👍
I'm dying do see what the aftermarket does with this, and maybe another Gymkhana video with this little beast. It would really make my day or probably the year
The Golf R is a good competitor for this car
Yep, and I'd rather have the R
Maybe if the front is less ugly at the refresh I'll skip my ideas of wanting this GR and get another R.
Special edition 21 owner here. Love the hatch revolution and definitely my car seemed to start that. Not as powerful hut loving it and supersonic red. Fun car finally as I've been a toyo for most my life. Good to see fun cars
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Loved the pegboard nerds intro 🫶🏻old school monstercat vibes nice choice David nice choice 👍🏻
Its like a Forza intro! Great work David!!
40k+ for a Corrolla, same goes for CTR.Insane.😆
Ctr is fwd, sure the 2.0t has more power potential and looks better
$50K for a Corolla... Say that again and then think it's a good price... for a Corolla. Crazy.
Not that crazy when thinking the AE86 and AE88 corollas go for twice as that in the bring a trailer market these days. its insane
That intro was EPIC!
Id love to get one of these, but its out of budget right now due to a baby and relocating across the country. But im also very happy with my 15' 3.7 Cyclone mustang vert🌀 and im really hoping to boost it 1 day 🙏
David, I know from the factory it feels like a more subdued car, but isn't the Golf R still a competitor? I'd like to see a head to head
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Yes, he’s just feeding off that new car hype, watch any other video than his to get a better idea on the car
Toyota looking real good rn compared to the others
Especially honda they make their cars uglier and heavier I respect them I used to be a honda boy a decade ago but the hype stopped because the older ones which I like are hard to find and the newer ones just don't do it for me and their hatches basically look like sedans this is a real hatch
@@Jac735 yea but the a brand new Civic Type R is way better than the outgoing one.
@@jonlosito2004 I can agree on that
I never started to look at Toyota cars until I saw the Camry trd and now this!! They are really making some beautiful cars right now
This gave me 2017 TH-cam vibes! Love the intro
Know the song by chance ?
A good video 📹
Top Gear ⚙ editing 👌 excellent
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Toyota needs to stop “testing” that motor in The gr86 and bring it to market
They do have a big 7 starred problem keeping them from doing so.
just waiting for that 30k Stealership price hikes😠
Andy C! Love the intro
Holy smokes David, production quality is insane!!
This is a major win for the Toyota guys / Toyota enthusiast and the Toyota people that love the 90s Toyota. Now there’s no need in separating reliability and Performance with Toyota you can combine both
I swear every toyota video i s ee you hyping them, dude stop you sound cringy asf🤣. If you want real talk toyota has been late in the game.
@Paul even if it has toyota engine it will still sell the same but i agree 100% with you that they should use their own toyota engine and ditch that boxer crap. Look whats happening to it now with the rtv issues
Not really. Takes forever to spool from what iv seen. An Si probably has more potential than that 3 cylinder lol. It's cool but way overpriced. Not really practical.
Bro friken sick intro 🔥
First on the list in my area. Super excited! 🇨🇦
Sti gone, evo gone, focus ST gone,
*The golf R still exists*
Golf R still exists and has GR Corollas for breakfast.
@@deniscdyck u mean u eat 42 Corollas for breakfast
@@deniscdyck numb steering, shifter and pedals though
You know you're getting old when you think the corolla is too ridiculous looking and you'd rather have the golf r for the simpler looks and nicer interior
I agree. Not into the looks of this at all.
🔥 hot boi intro 👀
Intro was dope, got that Forza feels
Personally, I think the Corolla GR needs a 4 cylinder. A highly strung 3 cylinder is cool and all, but if Toyota used their “K20” equivalent powerplant, I would be ALL about this car.
Just me though.
This sounds better than most 4 cylinders lol
@@cosmic_gate476 Just personal preference. Im speaking from a point of "larger less stressed engine vs smaller higher-strung engine." Thats all.
@@TheRedrider05 Most owners are family people not tuners lol. I ordered the new Z cause I wanted a big engine with headroom and there are other options for that type of buyer.
I’ll take my focus RS still
Hey David! Thanks for uploading this, I'll be using this video to determine if I want one of these in the near future. Thank you so much 😁
So disrespectful how no one brings up the golf R when talking about hot hatches! such a slept on car
I too love the fact that it's manual only, but a dual clutch option would be incredible.
Kinda sad that these new wicked ICE's will be phased out in a few years. Can't wait till one of these pops up on the used market.
Great vid; Manual is life!
I used to have a 89 Corolla back in 2008 big difference.
Need this as a daily for my eg hatch
I think this car is going to hold value extremely well. Better than STi’s. Which is good for people in the north east with the rain being such a factor in depreciation on buying a new car. Being that said, even with the new design which I love! And this awd system for winters. It’s an amazing set up for 37k plus tax don’t get me wrong. I’m first in the list at my local dealer for one. But I have seen from Ryan ( Toyota drift member) he only uses this car in 50/50 mode. And other reviews prove this point further, that the 60/40 and 70/30 splits don’t actually help the car oversteer because it lacks the power to due so ( on the Michelin tires it comes with) Ryan himself did the debut demo donuts in the gr corolla In his vlog stating the only usable mode stock on the gr corolla is the 50/50 split.
Intro was epic
What a cool car! Really stoked Toyota brought us this when the Yaris didn’t come to North America. Almost worked out better if you want usable back seats and more room in general.
I had to snatch up the Core when I found it. The amount available, and what options you get are depending on what your dealers get.
I want one really bad! I'll be going for the Circuit since you can't do an aftermarket carbon roof, but it also comes with all the performance stuff standard, and a better stereo etc just would be a much better daily too. Not interested in the morizo since the differences are far less appealing for a daily.
I hope Toyota sells a lot we need to encourage these manufacturers to continue to make cars like these and Manuel car in general
Its amazing! I hope this car stays for a long time cus i'll probably pick one up in 3-5 years cus I can't buy one yet! Also what are the color options?
Black, red silver and white I think. Not many.
My friend has one and put an aftermarket exhaust on it, and we both were pretty disappointed at how raspy it still sounded.
It looks so good! Must be a blast to drive
It really is!
Very cool 3 way power distribution setting
I hope I'll be able to get one due to inventory shortages.
I just got my GR and it’s an amazing driving experience. It will put a smile on your face.
I currently drive a 2018 corolla and I've never been so tempted to learn to drive a manual for this 😅
I called it last year way b4 the car was released, just wait for the special option they will be doing with the supra, funny thing is i drove the manual supra last year didnt even know it wasnt out yet. But wait for the factory option they will be offering 😉
Finally got one of these a week ago, for sticker price too which took some hassling. Couldn't ask for a better daily.
I’d love to see that AWD system be available for the Camry TRD and other models.