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Glad I could help mate. Enjoy the new wheel. I recently picked up the CSL DD and should have a review out before Fanatec starts shipping the GT DD Pro, so hopefully that will be useful also. 👍
@@rodolfopereira2142 loving it. I bought some caster wheels, and when I’m not using it I roll it into a closet. When I am using it there is no movement, everything feels heavy and quality, very happy with the purchase.
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I'm actually surprised how lowkey this thing is and how more populair the lawnchair rig seems to be. Personally this is perfect because it's sturdy, has the option of upgrade and most important part that does not get enough praise is the tray holding the chair, my biggest issue solved.
For sure Gary; while the F-GT Lite and GT Lite are both fantastic rigs for small spaces, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is an all-round much more robust offering. You'll have no problem running a direct drive wheel on this beast. 👍
Thanks for your question @@AdamsOlympia. The Wheel Stand 2.0 is certainly sturdy enough to be used with a motion setup. And, in theory, you could bolt some compatible motion actuators to the bottom of the wheel stand, using the mounting points that the feet screw into. I would also assume that you'd need to use the GT seat add-on instead of a regular office seat ( www.adaptnetwork.com/gaming/sim-racing/next-level-racing-gt-seat-add-on/ ). However, I'd recommend reaching out to the motion rig manufacturer to check compatibility, as I'm not 100% sure. I hope that helps. 👍
Just bought one of these and reasonably happy. I don't trust the folding up of the stand. I really don't want my gear falling over in the middle of the night. The secure bolts also don't hold it closed very well when folded. It's quite heavy. Ok now the negs out the way. Everything you said in the video is bang on.
Thanks for your comment and kind words Paul-I'm really glad you're getting on well with the wheel stand. I'm the same way when it comes to looking after my gear. However, at least with the wheel stand, it doesn't take up too much space in the corner of your room, even when it's not folded. Happy sim racing bud!
Your review made me buy it. I was looking for a sim rig that has a seat as confortable as my noblechairs without breaking the bank. Now I don't have to anymore. Thanks!
comparison to lower class stand for those thinking about upgrade, every detail on dimensions shown graphically, step by step set up (sped up to save viewers time), video from many angles, etc.... bless you sir! watching this without sound and still getting all the info... THIS is how reviews should be! big up ADAPT I guess next level should pay you or at least hype you for such product review. Its not often that I watch whole video on youtube.
This is exactly the type of review I was looking for this product. Very detailed and the measurements and info helped me make my decision - I'm getting one!! Can't wait to fit a proper Fanatec DD wheel on it and start driving.
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks for your reply. I'm coming from a T300rs on a Wheel Stand Pro and wanted to upgrade to DD and was thinking of getting the new Gran Turismo DD wheel base. Was wondering if this Wheel Stand 2.0 could handle it and if I could easily fold it away in my cupboard after use. Your brilliant review has convinced me it can handle it and I don't think space will be more of an issue than it is now with the Wheel Stand Pro. Really can't wait to upgrade my gear but availability on this great stand is becoming an issue I can't find reasonably good prices on it that ship to my location.
I’ve been trying to decide between the F-GT Lite cockpit with a Logitech g923, or a wheelstand with a DD wheel combo. This video might be one of the best/most informative for me. The gaming chair cradle is an absolute game-changer. I have a Herman-Miller that would be really nice to use with this wheel stand. The foldaway capability could be what seals the deal for me, as I’m working with limited space as well. A+ review, mate
@@andyaceswe I got the Gran Turismo DD Wheel with the Next Level Wheel Stand 2.0. It's heavy and weighty enough to withstand the torque on the wheel, as well as having my office chair docked in. I actually ended up buying a PSVR2 also, so using all 3 it's a pretty rad sim experience :)
I got this recently and it works wonderfully at my desk. It is pretty heavy with all the gear attached. I would recommend as you said in the video with the casters on the front legs. I'm already considering upgrading to the standalone seat and monitor stand. The addiction is real
Thanks for your comment and advice Cody. I'm stoked you're enjoying the Wheel Stand 2.0; it's really well built in my opinion. Welcome to the world of sim racing bud! 👍
Thanks for your comment Spyke-I'm really glad you found the review useful. I don't have any cupboards big enough to fit the Wheel Stand 2.0 either, but it does tuck away nicely in the corner of a room. 👍
Adjustment of the wheel stand is pretty annoying once you’ve got it all set up. There are no push pins or spring loaded latches - everything is held together by bolts that need an Allen key to loosen and tighten. A friend of mine came over to try out the WS2.0 and I needed to undo 8 bolts to get everything lined up for him which was a pain in the ass, as it prevented us from being able to swap back and forth. I would’ve really liked to have seen some sort of latching or push pin mechanism to quickly adjust some key parts of the stand without having to break out tools and spend 10 minutes adjusting everything. Also, as you mentioned, the unit is very heavy once fully built (and awkward to move through a door due to its width with the shifter plate add on). I race on my pc and my ps5 in the living room and moving the WS2.0 in and out of my office and living room is a pain due to its size and weight - castor wheels would’ve been massively appreciated.
For sure mate, I would definitely recommend picking up some caster wheels if you need to move the wheel stand between rooms. On a plus side, the extra weight keeps the wheel stand planted when racing hard. Also, good points about the adjustability mechanics.
Great review! I have PSVR2 preordered and w/ GT7 being fully VR I'm looking to get the Fanatec DD Pro. It's my first dip into sim racing, so wasn't sure what set up would actually work for me, but thanks to your review, I think this one fits the bill!
Thanks for your comment Norman-I'm really glad you found the review useful. With VR, this would be an awesome first sim racing setup. See you on the virtual race track!
Good review! Two tips for future wheelstand/rig reviews: 1. Maybe use a more powerful (if you own one that is) wheel/pedal-combo to show the viewers how it reacts. 2. Show more footage of the flex. Where and if it exist. Different angles is key! In this case some other reviewers pointed out the shiftermount was prone to flexing.
Thanks for your brilliant feedback Slimpan-I really appreciate it and I’ll be sure to incorporate this into future sim racing wheel stand/rig reviews. 👍
Yeah im buying this for my Moza rig my current stand has to be ratchet straps to my desk to keep it still when using it with a DD on it or even my g29 and the chair craddle thing is a huge bonus im so looking forward to this
I also have a herman miller aeron (size c) and was considering buying this stand. I’ve been looking for something that I can fit behind/under my desk but there’s limited room between my desk and the wall behind me. If you have the rig right up against your desk, how close can you get the chair to the desk? Currently using a table clamp for my fanatec DD 8nm which is less than ideal so this would be absolutely massive for me! Cheers, I’ve been loving your content since finding you
Thanks for your kind words and question inki. It's hard to say for sure, as this depends on what wheel you have attached to the CSL DD base and the position of your pedals. In terms of driving position, you'll be absolutly fine and will be able to setup a realistic field of view with your monitor. However, I doubt you'd be able to perform normal desk work with the wheel stand in place. While you can position the chair close to the desk, it won't be in a comfortable position. If you're really short on space, your best bet will be to fold up the wheel stand and store it against a wall in your room. Does that somewhat answer your question mate?
@@ADAPTNetworkey man. Thanks for the prompt reply! I’m using a mix of the BMW CSL P1 V2 and the CS F1 V2. Im used to having the pedals a little further back in real life driving and in my current setup too. If i were to mount the pedals as far back as possible, would you feel I could get them far enough back that it wouldn’t be problematic when I’m right up close to the desk? (I wouldn’t mind if its not quite the best angle as long as it doesn’t really hurt performance) I don’t have particularly long legs or anything (I’m 5 10). If i can get the wheel stand in between my desk and chair (my chair is only around 15cm/6 inches from the wall behind it), I would be happy even if its a little tight. I will probably have to fold it up every time I use it but I wouldn’t mind that as currently I have to remove the desk clamp, and my handbrake and shifter also have to be clamped to the desk which is a pain since I use my desk for work and other non racing games. Thanks again for the help 🙏
No worries @@inkiblackman2625, thanks for clarifying. Yeah, I think you'll be absolutely fine setting up the wheel stand in this way. The pedal plate has ample adjustability to suit different driving positions. 👍
Thanks for your question. Personally, I didn't have any issue with chair rotation, though this somewhat depends on the chair you use. As with braking, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is a pretty robust unit, at 22kg. So, as long as you're not applying excessive break pressure, I think you should be fine-especially when locking the chair in place using the chair cradle. Hope that helps. 👍
Just bought this and I tested it with my g29 bolted down and all, but just the steering wheel without turning it on since I need to do some electronic changes on my pedals, and I got to say that I feel already super satisfied with it in my camping chair that eventually whenever I can afford it at the right time and place I’ll just get the GT seat add on and I already got myself a full rig without any need to by a new rig such as the playseat sensation pro (my TRUE ideal type of racing rig) or an F GT elite/ GT elite which people said that they’re both good as well but all 3 rigs that I’ve just mentioned are quite pricy so that’s why I’d just stick with getting the GT seat add on ngl 😂✌️.
Just wondering, is it possible to unmount the gearshift golder for storage? maybe some hand turning bolts? Or do you have to unbolt more than just the platform itself
Thanks for your question Jason. The easiest thing would probably be to remove the entire shifter arm. You'd need to use a hex key, but there are only two bolts to work with, so it wouldn't take very long. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question Jesse and apologies for the delayed reply. You can use the pre-drilled slots in the pedal tray to hard mount your pedals. Most consumer pedal sets accept M6 bolts, but check with the instruction booklet for your specific set. Hope that helps. 👍
Great question jg; the pedal plate on the Wheel Stand 2.0 is pre-drilled for pretty much everything. However, it still might be worth contacting NLR directly for confirmation. 👍
Thanks for your comment TD. The pedal deck can be tilted upward by 15° (8:40), so you should have no trouble in adjusting it to suit your preferred GT driving position. You can also combine the Wheel Stand 2.0 with the GT seat add-on to create a full cockpit: www.adaptnetwork.com/gaming/sim-racing/next-level-racing-gt-seat-add-on/
@@ADAPTNetwork I need a wheel stand because it will be in my bedroom. I don't think tilting the angle would be ideal compared to if there was an option to raise the pedal platform.
Thanks for the context @@TheDoctor46vr. Personally, I found the driving position to be very natural and you can always lower your office seat to suit. Alternatively, you could consider a foldable rig like that GT Lite Pro ( th-cam.com/video/JJpJ7OPT9Lw/w-d-xo.html ). Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetworkwith all due respect it's natural for truck simulator but not for driving a GT3. The GT Lite Pro isn't capable of the same level of NM from DD force feedback compared to a wheel stand. I think the solution might be to get a low seat, because even office chairs don't go low enough.
Thanks for your comment Michael. I'm stoked you like the review and the Wheel Stand 2.0. Just to clarify, we chose to run the wheel stand slightly further from the monitor for the purpose on the video, so that viewers can get a better look at it. In normal use though, I would run it much closer like you suggest. 👍
Looking to get a wheel stand for my g29. You've sold me as I'm looking for something I can use with my ps5 for gran turismo 7 and pc. This seems perfect. Thank you
For sure; you can easily replace the screw-in feet with Next Level Racing caster wheels ( amzn.to/48nmySx ). Though, I would recommend only replacing the front two feet for better stability. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question Jmab. Yes, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is fully compatible with the Fanatec Gran Turismo DD Pro bundle ( adaptnet.work/7Ui2 ). The wheel deck is pre-drilled with the triangle pattern to fit Fanatec wheels. Of course, with the CSL DD and Gran Turismo DD Pro, you have a lot more mounting options as you can simply align T-nuts as needed. The pedal deck is also pr-drilled to fit the CSL pedals. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question Jordan. I think it would be possible to use the Wheel Stand 2.0 with a low couch, though you may need to use a lumbar cushion to position yourself forward. Also, FYI, the height of the wheel stand in its lowest position is 69cm. I hope that helps. 👍
Thnx for this review. You measured the height when Extended, i would like to know the height on it's lowest. I want to know if i can slide the whole thing under my desk.
Hi can you confirm the height of the wheel plate at the lowest setting? you mention max 79 with 8*1.25 increments which would result in 69 cm, but i'm not sure if those are measured diagonally or straight vertical ? if you could tell me the height of the top of the plate at the lowest point, that would be great, thanks (because i plan to use a couch, which sits a bit lower than a desk chair ! )
Thanks for your question Dieterbe. To clarify, the measurements detailed in the review are measured vertically. So, the height of the wheel plate in its lowest position is 69cm. I hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your comment Mathew. The height of the folded wheel stand will vary depending on how much you've chosen to extend the wheel mount. However, in my case, it's about 90cm, without a wheel attached. Hope that helps.
Thanks for your question mate. I haven't tested the Apex Wheel Stand from GT Omega. However, from looking at the schematics, it looks like the Next Level Racing Wheel Stand 2.0 is a more robust design-particularly in the wheel deck area. On the other hand, the Apex Wheel Stand may be slightly lighter, which could be an advantage depending on what you're looking for. Hope that helps. 👍
The pedal deck looks a little flimsy - there is a long unsupported section behind the bolt, and it's just held to the chosen angle by a bolt on either side. Is there really no flex/possibility of slipping?
Thanks for your question Saint. I didn't notice any flex during my testing. I think you would be absolutly fine running 90kg load cell pedals. If you're running pedals with much higher brake forces though, then you may experience some slight flex. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question teejay. In this video, I'm actually running the Thrustmaster T3PA pedals (8:10) and TX wheel (7:30), which has the same hard mount points as TS-XW. So, the short answer is yes haha. Hope that helps. 👍
Anyone know which one is better between this NLR 2.0 or the GT Omega Apex wheel stand? I'm between those two, i have the GT DD PRO 8nm with Load cell kit Pedals Appreciated if anyone can help me Great video
Thanks for your question Luciano. Since filming this video, I've upgraded to the Fanatec CSL DD (with 8Nm boost kit) and ClubSport V3 pedals. I haven't tried the GT Omega Apex wheel stand, but I can vouch for the NLR Wheel Stand 2.0; it's a very robust and well designed wheel stand. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question mate. Unfortunately, you can't adjust the angle of the A-frame itself. However, you should be able to adjust the height of the wheel to match your desk height and position the wheel stand so that the pedals are underneath your desk. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question SEN. Yes, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is pre-drilled to fit all Thrustmaster wheels and pedal sets. In this video, I'm actually using the Thrustmaster TX wheel and T3PA pedals. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question Dalejrfan. Do you have a carpeted or hard floor? On a carpet, you can fold the wheel stand quite slim, so that the edges of the feet dig into the carpet to keep it secure. Alternatively, you can lean the wheel stand against a wall, using a cloth between to protect both the wall and your equipment. In either case though, this may put extra strain on the feet. So, if you have the space, it may be better to open the wheel stand out slightly. Hope that helps. 👍
Great review! could you please provide the dimentions of the shifter and handbrake mounts? I'm looking at buying one of these and mounting a usb handbrake and shifter from AliExpress, but I cant find detailed dimensions anywhere. Thanks!
Thanks for your comment and question Naut. Combined, the shifter and handbrake mount measures about 20 x 20cm. With a bit of cajoling, it should work for most models on the market. Hope that helps. 👍
I usually play ets2 and acc, rarely play ac with f1 cars but wondering if this stand can occasionally be transformed down to a formula like seating position? I am thinking between the f-gt cockpit and this 2.0 stand. I am 185cm tall and prefer comfort over full simulation.
Thanks for your question mate. While you can increase the pedal deck angle to 15°, I don't think it's enough to support a true formula driving position-especially when using an office chair. The F-GT is a good bet, though a good foldable option is the F-GT Lite ( th-cam.com/video/B9w_4PwtAj4/w-d-xo.html ). Alternatively , if you hace the budget, the F-GT Elite is a fantastic rig ( th-cam.com/video/fLk8sa8Kv_k/w-d-xo.html ). Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your comment c0ldc0ne. Unfortunately, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is still really hard to source in the UK. Currently, the Amazon UK store is only offering US stock at a higher price. I’m actively keeping an eye on UK stock, so as soon as a better price becomes available I will update the links. I’d recommend waiting until then if you can. Hopefully it won’t be long. 🤞
Thanks for your question FullCircle. At just over 20kg, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is a substantial rig and remains planted when in use. I'm currently running an 8Nm CSL DD, however, I think you'd be fine running something more powerful. You may experience some slight flex with very high force feedback settings, however, I don't think you'd really notice this when racing. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question Richie. Yes, the pedal plate is pre-drilled with slots that fit most consumer pedal sets, including the Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your comment and kind words tunsiehelden-it really means a lot. I hope I was also able to shed some light on your other question regarding running direct drive wheels with the GT Lite. 👍
Thanks for your question marco. The Wheel Stand 2.0 is a pretty robust unit, at 22kg. So, as long as you're not applying excessive break pressure, I think you should be fine. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your comment Gabriel-I'm stoked you liked the review. I'm not sure when the Wheel Stand 2.0 will be back in stock, but I'll keep an eye on stock levels and update the links accordingly. Fingers crossed more stock will be arriving soon. 🤞
Thanks for your question YZ. I've just checked with Next Level Racing and I can confirm that the Wheel Stand 2.0 is fully compatible with the Logitech Pro DD wheel. Happy sim racing! 🏎🏁
Thanks for your question Lesoyskr. This will largely depend on the specific desk chair you have. With my Herman Miller Aeron, it was surprisingly stable. Hope that helps. 👍
Just bought one of these bad boys, still setting it up and waiting for my Moza wheel to arrive. Surprised how heavy the fucker is, it seems extremely sturdy!
For sure mate, I would definitely recommend picking up some caster wheels if you need to regularly move the wheel stand between rooms. On a plus side, the extra weight keeps the wheel stand planted when racing hard. 🏎🏁
Thanks for your comment Steven. Glad you managed to fix it with a bit of DIY. If you have any futher issues, I've found that Next Level Racing is really good at sending replacement parts when needed. 👍
Thanks for your question Packzy. I think the Wheel Stand 2.0 is definitely strong enough for both the Fanatec DD1 and DD2. In fact, Next Level Racing has a great video showing the Wheel Stand DD running the DD2 at different force feedback settings ( th-cam.com/video/bjrTMew_-h8/w-d-xo.html ). The Wheel Stand 2.0 is very similar in design and construction to the Wheel Stand DD. The only real differnce is that the pedal plate support structure, on the Wheel Stand DD, is welded in place. While this would in theory result in the Wheel Stand DD being slightly more stable than the Wheel Stand 2.0, I don’t think that you will notice that much difference. And, I found the Wheel Stand 2.0 to be impressively stable. Note, in the Next Level Racing demo video, that there is some slight movement in the Wheel Stand DD when running the DD2 at high force feedback settings. So, I would suggest running the DD1 at around 50% for the best overall experience. Hope that helps. 👍
This review has really helped me make a decision as to whether to buy this for both my racing sims and flight sims, so many thanks for such an informative review. Also, what racing sim are you using in this video, iRacing?
@@ADAPTNetwork You may be able to help me a little more: with regard to the shifter plate and associated arm, how far would you say it comes horizontally into the middle of the setup if it were to be mounted for right-handed use but mounted on the left leg of the stand? I ask as I would use the shifter mount for my HOTAS stick and hopefully be able to mount it in such a way as to have the shifter plate more or less between my legs with my stick on top, as a joystick would be for helicopters. Hope that makes sense!
Good question @@TheOneTrueSpLiT. I don't think you'd be able to position the shifter mount in a central position, without modifications. However, you should be able to position it above your left leg. You may need to raise the height to allow enough clearance for your legs to access the rudder pedals. Hope that helps. 👍
@@justskyedriftz Yes-you can attach the shifter & handbrake mount to either side of the rig. And, console compatibility is determined by your electronics, so as long as you have a PlayStation compatible wheel, pedal and shifter, you're good to go. Hope that clarifies. 👍
Thanks for your question Christiaan-I’m stoked you liked the review. Without the shifter assembly, the Wheel Stand 2.0 requires a storage space of about 55 x 50 x 120cm. Note that this is with a standard wheel and pedal set attached. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your kind words Geefiasco-I'm stoked you liked the review. As I mentioned in the video, I would have liked to have been able to drop the shifter down a little lower. With my Thrustmaster TH8A, I was still able to position it in a comfortable location and replicate a reasonably realistic driving position. However, with the Fanatec ClubSport shifter 1.5, your mileage may vary. If you're going for a rally or drift setup, then it could work to your advantage, raising the shifter up closer to the wheel. I hope that helps. 👍
Getting my 1st setup (csl dd and csl lc Pedals) too. Considering to buy this Wheelstand cuz I need a new chair for my desk aswell. Is it much of a problem with the chair rotating while driving with this stand?
Thanks for your question Sameh. The Wheel Stand 2.0 would make an excellent first rig and pair well with the CSL DD. Plus, you can upgrade it to a full rig-using the GT Seat Add-on- down the line. Personally, I didn't have any issue with chair rotation, though this somewhat depends on the chair you use. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks for your quick answer :) i totally forgot about it being upgradable in the future, which makes it even more interesting for me. but then i can order my new chair asap without any thoughts, the new chair will also have tiltable armrests, so they won't affect the positioning in any way 👍
Warning for flight siming this is not wide enough for some flight pedals like the thrustmaster trp, etc with out taking the pedal plate completely off and putting the pedals on the floor.
Thanks for your question mate. I currently run a Fanatec CSL DD, boosted to 8Nm. And, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is more than strong enough to support this with minimal flex. So, a 5.5Nm Moza R5 would be fine. Hope that helps. 👍
Nice review. I can see that the footprint is 55x65. Can you tell me how large it is in both direction including the shifter and handbrake mount? I mean, in opened state (without the gaming chair cradle). If I buy this, I probably won't fold it, but I'm limited on space. Thank you.
Thanks for your question Peter. I would personally opt for the Wheel Stand 2.0, as it’s structurally stronger than the F-/GT Lite rigs. While you could run the Fanatec DD on either of the Lite rigs, I think you’ll lose some of the force feedback through vibrations in the frame. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Thank you for your reply. How low can the wheel stand pro 2.0 go? I’m planning on using it with my TV, but my TV stand is only 40cm tall (TV is 55” oled). I’m worried about the stand being too tall and it obstructing vision to the TV.
No worries @@ImJustPeter. In the lowest position, the wheel deck is 69cm from the ground. However, if you remove the shifter mount arm, it can go even lower. It might be worth placing your wheel on some boxes, in front of your TV, to see if this is workable for your setup. Personally, I think you’ll be able to get away with it as your eyeline will be above your wheel, looking down at your TV, and your TV is a decent size to compensate.
Hello buddy! First of all just wanna thank you a bunch for that awesome of a review that you have brought up for us, you are really doing a great job covering all the key points so we can make an idea on what to expect for this wheel stand. However, small question: does this wheel stand comes with bolts for wheel and shifter? I am planning to mount my TM TX Leather edition and Th8a shifter which don't come with mounting bolts for a wheel stand.
Thanks for your kind words BCG-I'm stoked you liked the review. Yes, true to form, Next Level Racing includes some spare M6 bolts to mount your wheel, pedals and shifter. 👍
Thanks for your question Brent. The pedal plate can be adjusted to a maximum tilt angle of 15° (8:36). So, unfortunately, I don’t think you’ll be able to simulate a formula driving position with the Wheel Stand 2.0. That being said, it might be possible using a pedal set with internal angle adjustabilty. What pedal set do you have?
Nice @@brentvo6662, I just picked up this pedal set myself. If you attach the additional pedal faces, this will increase the angle of the pedals a bit. However, to be honest, I don’t think it will be enough to acheive a true formula position. You’ll probably get someway there, but it might not be enough for you. So, it depends on how important that is to you. I hope that helps. 👍
anyone can answer me if this would hold a csl dd without problems or too much movement, i don't care at all about a little bit of movement, also i don't play drifting or rallys, just f1 and stuff like that, but i definitely don't have space for a cockpit in my room, would this stand work for me with a csl dd?
Thanks for your question Marcos. I actually run a CSL DD at the moment, with the 8Nm boost kit. The Wheel Stand 2.0 is more than stable enough to support the wheel, with very little flex. Hope that helps. 👍
I know this was posted a year ago so I am late. I need a wheel stand but i want shifters or joysticks on both sides can you purchase another joystick plate like is included with this stand? Cough Farming Simulator cough ..
Thanks for your question CK. The Wheel Stand 2.0 has the ability to support a shifter/joystick mount on both sides of the rig. However, you'd need to reach out to Next Level Racing directly to see if the team can supply you with an additional mount. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question wickfut. When folded, the Wheel Stand 2.0 will be slightly higher-especially when accounting for the extra height of the wheel. Though, it will still take up less space in your room, if you lean it against a wall or stow it away in a cupboard. Hope that clarifies. 👍
Nice review I’ve been looking for a place to buy this stand with no luck. I’m at South Africa Amazon charging R5500.00 just for shipping before tax. Way more than the stand any idea where I can buy this
Thanks for your comment Phakamani-I'm stoked you liked the review. The Wheel Stand 2.0 seems to be very hard to get hold of at the moment. My best advice is to keep checking search engine shopping results, as different retailers will obtain stock at some point.
If only we could slide these stands under our desks so it wouldn't hog the room. The angle of the wheel base mount looks too small to angle under a PC desk
Thanks for your comment Notremah-I really appreciate the support. I’ll be sure to update the links in the video description as soon as the wheel stand is in stock. Fingers crossed this won’t be too long. 🤞
This thing is really solid, even with my dd setup. Just not portable with its rubber base. Which is a shame bcs i use a wheel stand so i can use my pc like normal and fold it when i dont need it
Thanks for your comment Abdul. I agree that it would have been nice if Next Level Racing included some caster wheels, as with the Wheel Stand DD. However, you can buy them separately online ( amzn.to/3ucGswX ). Hope that helps. 👍
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This was an extremely helpful review for someone who just pre-ordered the GT DD Pro bundle. Thank you sir!!
Glad I could help mate. Enjoy the new wheel. I recently picked up the CSL DD and should have a review out before Fanatec starts shipping the GT DD Pro, so hopefully that will be useful also. 👍
How is the experience?
@@rodolfopereira2142 loving it. I bought some caster wheels, and when I’m not using it I roll it into a closet. When I am using it there is no movement, everything feels heavy and quality, very happy with the purchase.
@@A_Gomes1122 can you send the reference or a link for these wheels ? Thx !
1.5" Threaded Stem Casters with Brake, Heavy Duty Swivel Caster with M8x25 Threaded Stem and Nuts for Shopping Carts, Trolley, Workbench, Furniture (Pack of 4) (M8x25)
I'm actually surprised how lowkey this thing is and how more populair the lawnchair rig seems to be. Personally this is perfect because it's sturdy, has the option of upgrade and most important part that does not get enough praise is the tray holding the chair, my biggest issue solved.
For sure Gary; while the F-GT Lite and GT Lite are both fantastic rigs for small spaces, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is an all-round much more robust offering. You'll have no problem running a direct drive wheel on this beast. 👍
What if you have a stable chair? Does the cockpit glide forward when you press the pedals?
@@bestopinion9257 don't think so
@@ADAPTNetwork is it big and sturdy enough to accommodate a 4DAF motion rig like the Qubic system or others?
Thanks for your question @@AdamsOlympia. The Wheel Stand 2.0 is certainly sturdy enough to be used with a motion setup. And, in theory, you could bolt some compatible motion actuators to the bottom of the wheel stand, using the mounting points that the feet screw into. I would also assume that you'd need to use the GT seat add-on instead of a regular office seat ( www.adaptnetwork.com/gaming/sim-racing/next-level-racing-gt-seat-add-on/ ). However, I'd recommend reaching out to the motion rig manufacturer to check compatibility, as I'm not 100% sure. I hope that helps. 👍
I have just watched five different video reviews on this product. Your video was the best one. Great video! The measurements you include are awesome
Thanks so much for your comment and kind words Andrew-I’m stoked you liked the review. 👍
As someone who's looking at buying one of these, this is a brilliant review. Detailed and straight to the point.
Thanks so much for your kind words-it really means a lot and I’m stoked you liked the review. See you on the virtual race track. 🏁
Just bought one of these and reasonably happy. I don't trust the folding up of the stand. I really don't want my gear falling over in the middle of the night. The secure bolts also don't hold it closed very well when folded. It's quite heavy. Ok now the negs out the way. Everything you said in the video is bang on.
Thanks for your comment and kind words Paul-I'm really glad you're getting on well with the wheel stand. I'm the same way when it comes to looking after my gear. However, at least with the wheel stand, it doesn't take up too much space in the corner of your room, even when it's not folded. Happy sim racing bud!
So glad I discovered this video thinking about upgrading old racing rig this looks perfect
Thanks for your comment WP41; I'm really glad my review was useful. Let me know if you have any additional questions about the Wheel Stand 2.0. 👍
Your review made me buy it. I was looking for a sim rig that has a seat as confortable as my noblechairs without breaking the bank. Now I don't have to anymore. Thanks!
Thanks for your comment Robert-I'm stoked you liked the review. Enjoy the new rig. 👍
Same
comparison to lower class stand for those thinking about upgrade, every detail on dimensions shown graphically, step by step set up (sped up to save viewers time), video from many angles, etc.... bless you sir! watching this without sound and still getting all the info... THIS is how reviews should be! big up ADAPT
I guess next level should pay you or at least hype you for such product review. Its not often that I watch whole video on youtube.
This comment made my day. Thanks so much for taking the time to write it Dave. I'm stoked you liked the review. 🤙
This is exactly the type of review I was looking for this product. Very detailed and the measurements and info helped me make my decision - I'm getting one!! Can't wait to fit a proper Fanatec DD wheel on it and start driving.
Thanks for your kind words J. I'm stoked you liked the review. Which DD wheel do you have? I recently picked up the CSL DD-it's a pocket powerhouse!
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks for your reply. I'm coming from a T300rs on a Wheel Stand Pro and wanted to upgrade to DD and was thinking of getting the new Gran Turismo DD wheel base. Was wondering if this Wheel Stand 2.0 could handle it and if I could easily fold it away in my cupboard after use. Your brilliant review has convinced me it can handle it and I don't think space will be more of an issue than it is now with the Wheel Stand Pro. Really can't wait to upgrade my gear but availability on this great stand is becoming an issue I can't find reasonably good prices on it that ship to my location.
No worries @@JustinPoggioArtworks. I'm really glad I could help. Fingers crossed stock levels will improve soon. 🤞
I’ve been trying to decide between the F-GT Lite cockpit with a Logitech g923, or a wheelstand with a DD wheel combo. This video might be one of the best/most informative for me. The gaming chair cradle is an absolute game-changer. I have a Herman-Miller that would be really nice to use with this wheel stand. The foldaway capability could be what seals the deal for me, as I’m working with limited space as well.
A+ review, mate
Thanks for your kind words mate-it means a lot and I'm stoked you liked the review. 👍
So what did you buy... u wrote this 1 year ago :) im thinking of buying one or race rig
@@andyaceswe I got the Gran Turismo DD Wheel with the Next Level Wheel Stand 2.0. It's heavy and weighty enough to withstand the torque on the wheel, as well as having my office chair docked in. I actually ended up buying a PSVR2 also, so using all 3 it's a pretty rad sim experience :)
Just saw your comment, i have same dilemma. Is the 2.0 good for occasionally racing f1 cars too?
I got this recently and it works wonderfully at my desk. It is pretty heavy with all the gear attached. I would recommend as you said in the video with the casters on the front legs. I'm already considering upgrading to the standalone seat and monitor stand. The addiction is real
Thanks for your comment and advice Cody. I'm stoked you're enjoying the Wheel Stand 2.0; it's really well built in my opinion. Welcome to the world of sim racing bud! 👍
This review gave me information no other review did, I in fact will not be able to store this in any of my cupboards.
Thanks for your comment Spyke-I'm really glad you found the review useful. I don't have any cupboards big enough to fit the Wheel Stand 2.0 either, but it does tuck away nicely in the corner of a room. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork excellent, I was hoping to put it in with my dinner plates but it's gonna be a few feet too big
@@SpykeZ0129 Haha...love it! 🤣
Adjustment of the wheel stand is pretty annoying once you’ve got it all set up. There are no push pins or spring loaded latches - everything is held together by bolts that need an Allen key to loosen and tighten. A friend of mine came over to try out the WS2.0 and I needed to undo 8 bolts to get everything lined up for him which was a pain in the ass, as it prevented us from being able to swap back and forth. I would’ve really liked to have seen some sort of latching or push pin mechanism to quickly adjust some key parts of the stand without having to break out tools and spend 10 minutes adjusting everything. Also, as you mentioned, the unit is very heavy once fully built (and awkward to move through a door due to its width with the shifter plate add on). I race on my pc and my ps5 in the living room and moving the WS2.0 in and out of my office and living room is a pain due to its size and weight - castor wheels would’ve been massively appreciated.
For sure mate, I would definitely recommend picking up some caster wheels if you need to move the wheel stand between rooms. On a plus side, the extra weight keeps the wheel stand planted when racing hard. Also, good points about the adjustability mechanics.
Great review! I have PSVR2 preordered and w/ GT7 being fully VR I'm looking to get the Fanatec DD Pro. It's my first dip into sim racing, so wasn't sure what set up would actually work for me, but thanks to your review, I think this one fits the bill!
Thanks for your comment Norman-I'm really glad you found the review useful. With VR, this would be an awesome first sim racing setup. See you on the virtual race track!
watched this to confirm everything before buying and you did that. Very well done on the production of this review :)
Thanks for your comment ALCATRAZ-I appreciate the kind words. Enjoy the wheel stand. 🤙
Good review! Two tips for future wheelstand/rig reviews:
1. Maybe use a more powerful (if you own one that is) wheel/pedal-combo to show the viewers how it reacts.
2. Show more footage of the flex. Where and if it exist. Different angles is key! In this case some other reviewers pointed out the shiftermount was prone to flexing.
Thanks for your brilliant feedback Slimpan-I really appreciate it and I’ll be sure to incorporate this into future sim racing wheel stand/rig reviews. 👍
Yeah im buying this for my Moza rig my current stand has to be ratchet straps to my desk to keep it still when using it with a DD on it or even my g29 and the chair craddle thing is a huge bonus im so looking forward to this
Thanks for your comment Scott-you'll love the Wheel Stand 2.0. Happy sim racing dude. 🏎🏁
Honestly, one of the best reviews I’ve ever watched. Thank you very much! I will be subscribing.
Thanks so much Sky-really appreciate the support. 👍
I also have a herman miller aeron (size c) and was considering buying this stand. I’ve been looking for something that I can fit behind/under my desk but there’s limited room between my desk and the wall behind me.
If you have the rig right up against your desk, how close can you get the chair to the desk? Currently using a table clamp for my fanatec DD 8nm which is less than ideal so this would be absolutely massive for me!
Cheers, I’ve been loving your content since finding you
Thanks for your kind words and question inki. It's hard to say for sure, as this depends on what wheel you have attached to the CSL DD base and the position of your pedals. In terms of driving position, you'll be absolutly fine and will be able to setup a realistic field of view with your monitor. However, I doubt you'd be able to perform normal desk work with the wheel stand in place. While you can position the chair close to the desk, it won't be in a comfortable position. If you're really short on space, your best bet will be to fold up the wheel stand and store it against a wall in your room. Does that somewhat answer your question mate?
@@ADAPTNetworkey man.
Thanks for the prompt reply!
I’m using a mix of the BMW CSL P1 V2 and the CS F1 V2. Im used to having the pedals a little further back in real life driving and in my current setup too. If i were to mount the pedals as far back as possible, would you feel I could get them far enough back that it wouldn’t be problematic when I’m right up close to the desk? (I wouldn’t mind if its not quite the best angle as long as it doesn’t really hurt performance) I don’t have particularly long legs or anything (I’m 5 10).
If i can get the wheel stand in between my desk and chair (my chair is only around 15cm/6 inches from the wall behind it), I would be happy even if its a little tight.
I will probably have to fold it up every time I use it but I wouldn’t mind that as currently I have to remove the desk clamp, and my handbrake and shifter also have to be clamped to the desk which is a pain since I use my desk for work and other non racing games.
Thanks again for the help 🙏
No worries @@inkiblackman2625, thanks for clarifying. Yeah, I think you'll be absolutely fine setting up the wheel stand in this way. The pedal plate has ample adjustability to suit different driving positions. 👍
So when you race, does the chair move side to side? And how about when using heavy braking power, does it the whol rig move?
Thanks for your question. Personally, I didn't have any issue with chair rotation, though this somewhat depends on the chair you use. As with braking, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is a pretty robust unit, at 22kg. So, as long as you're not applying excessive break pressure, I think you should be fine-especially when locking the chair in place using the chair cradle. Hope that helps. 👍
I needed to watch this review. This is all I need
Thanks for your comment Phomolo. I'm stoked you liked the review and I'm glad I could help. 👍
Great review! I’m getting this for a DD pro.
Thanks for your kind words LETC. The Wheel Stand 2.0 and DD Pro is the perfect combo. See you on the virtual race track! 🏎🏁
@@ADAPTNetwork sure. I put in the order today!
nice review, looking at grabbing one for my moza r5, im in a camper as well so the storage looks nice
That's awesome mate-I'd love to see a video of you sim racing in your camper if you have one. 👍
Just bought this and I tested it with my g29 bolted down and all, but just the steering wheel without turning it on since I need to do some electronic changes on my pedals, and I got to say that I feel already super satisfied with it in my camping chair that eventually whenever I can afford it at the right time and place I’ll just get the GT seat add on and I already got myself a full rig without any need to by a new rig such as the playseat sensation pro (my TRUE ideal type of racing rig) or an F GT elite/ GT elite which people said that they’re both good as well but all 3 rigs that I’ve just mentioned are quite pricy so that’s why I’d just stick with getting the GT seat add on ngl 😂✌️.
Thanks for your comment James. I'm stoked to hear that you're getting on so well with the Wheel Stand 2.0. Happy sim racing bud. 🏎🏁
Just wondering, is it possible to unmount the gearshift golder for storage? maybe some hand turning bolts? Or do you have to unbolt more than just the platform itself
Thanks for your question Jason. The easiest thing would probably be to remove the entire shifter arm. You'd need to use a hex key, but there are only two bolts to work with, so it wouldn't take very long. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks!
is there a part to lock your pedals in place or do you just let them sit on the tray
Thanks for your question Jesse and apologies for the delayed reply. You can use the pre-drilled slots in the pedal tray to hard mount your pedals. Most consumer pedal sets accept M6 bolts, but check with the instruction booklet for your specific set. Hope that helps. 👍
Hi, would anyone know if the HE Sprints with base will mount with at least 4 bolts onto this NLR 2.0 pedal plate?
Great question jg; the pedal plate on the Wheel Stand 2.0 is pre-drilled for pretty much everything. However, it still might be worth contacting NLR directly for confirmation. 👍
Can u change the shifter mount to the other side ??
Thanks for your question Dylan. Yes, the shifter mount can be attached to either side of the wheel stand. 👍
I dont like the typical truck like position. Can the pedals be raised? Or is there some sort of seat option that can be slammed on the ground?
Thanks for your comment TD. The pedal deck can be tilted upward by 15° (8:40), so you should have no trouble in adjusting it to suit your preferred GT driving position. You can also combine the Wheel Stand 2.0 with the GT seat add-on to create a full cockpit: www.adaptnetwork.com/gaming/sim-racing/next-level-racing-gt-seat-add-on/
@@ADAPTNetwork I need a wheel stand because it will be in my bedroom.
I don't think tilting the angle would be ideal compared to if there was an option to raise the pedal platform.
Thanks for the context @@TheDoctor46vr. Personally, I found the driving position to be very natural and you can always lower your office seat to suit. Alternatively, you could consider a foldable rig like that GT Lite Pro ( th-cam.com/video/JJpJ7OPT9Lw/w-d-xo.html ). Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetworkwith all due respect it's natural for truck simulator but not for driving a GT3.
The GT Lite Pro isn't capable of the same level of NM from DD force feedback compared to a wheel stand.
I think the solution might be to get a low seat, because even office chairs don't go low enough.
Fair point @@TheDoctor46vr-that sounds like a good plan. Happy sim racing dude! 🏎🏁
Great review! I have this stand and it is excellent. I would put the stand a tad closer to your monitor. In fact, touching the desk.
Thanks for your comment Michael. I'm stoked you like the review and the Wheel Stand 2.0. Just to clarify, we chose to run the wheel stand slightly further from the monitor for the purpose on the video, so that viewers can get a better look at it. In normal use though, I would run it much closer like you suggest. 👍
Looking to get a wheel stand for my g29. You've sold me as I'm looking for something I can use with my ps5 for gran turismo 7 and pc.
This seems perfect. Thank you
Thanks for your comment Zaa. I'm glad I could help. Hope you enjoy your new wheel stand. 👍
the exact same situation im in too!
Can you put caster wheels on it
For sure; you can easily replace the screw-in feet with Next Level Racing caster wheels ( amzn.to/48nmySx ). Though, I would recommend only replacing the front two feet for better stability. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork but when you buy it does it come with 2 wheels
Or more
Apologies for the late reply @@imhamarasul. Unfortunately, the Wheel Stand 2.0 doesn't come with any caster wheels as standard (4:12).
the unfolding information is great
Thanks fireoil-I'm stoked you found the review useful. 🤙
Will this work for fanatec gran turismo bundle?
Thanks for your question Jmab. Yes, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is fully compatible with the Fanatec Gran Turismo DD Pro bundle ( adaptnet.work/7Ui2 ). The wheel deck is pre-drilled with the triangle pattern to fit Fanatec wheels. Of course, with the CSL DD and Gran Turismo DD Pro, you have a lot more mounting options as you can simply align T-nuts as needed. The pedal deck is also pr-drilled to fit the CSL pedals. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thank you
No worries @@Jmab-rv7jc-glad I could help. 🤙
Could this be used with a relatively low couch do you think?
Thanks for your question Jordan. I think it would be possible to use the Wheel Stand 2.0 with a low couch, though you may need to use a lumbar cushion to position yourself forward. Also, FYI, the height of the wheel stand in its lowest position is 69cm. I hope that helps. 👍
Can the shifter mount be used on the right side?
Thanks for your question Peigen. Yes, the shifter and handbrake mount can be attached to either side of the wheel stand. 👍
7:06 this is what it got me buying it! ETS2 IM ON MY WAY!!!!!!!!
Glad I could help Fabz; happy trucking mate. 🚛🎮
Thnx for this review. You measured the height when Extended, i would like to know the height on it's lowest. I want to know if i can slide the whole thing under my desk.
Thanks for your question Spyah. Without a wheel attached, the height of the wheel stand in its lowest position is 69cm. I hope that helps. 👍
Hi can you confirm the height of the wheel plate at the lowest setting? you mention max 79 with 8*1.25 increments which would result in 69 cm, but i'm not sure if those are measured diagonally or straight vertical ? if you could tell me the height of the top of the plate at the lowest point, that would be great, thanks (because i plan to use a couch, which sits a bit lower than a desk chair ! )
Thanks for your question Dieterbe. To clarify, the measurements detailed in the review are measured vertically. So, the height of the wheel plate in its lowest position is 69cm. I hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks !
I just got one through your amazon link! On 11/17/2021! Thx!
Thanks Mr. Freeze. I’ve been trying to keep an eye on stock and update links accordingly. Happy sim racing mate. 🏎🏁
Great review fella! What seat are using 🤔 thanks in advance
Thanks for your comment mate-I'm stoked you liked the review. It's the Herman Miller Aeron chair: adaptnet.work/HMAeron
Very well done and indepth review!!
Thanks for your kind words Gummiees; I'm stoked you liked the review. 👍
It will be great if you can show me the height of the flipped rig without the wheels😅 anyway nice video!
Thanks for your comment Mathew. The height of the folded wheel stand will vary depending on how much you've chosen to extend the wheel mount. However, in my case, it's about 90cm, without a wheel attached. Hope that helps.
@@ADAPTNetwork thank you so much 🙏
whats the difference between this and the apex racing stand
Thanks for your question mate. I haven't tested the Apex Wheel Stand from GT Omega. However, from looking at the schematics, it looks like the Next Level Racing Wheel Stand 2.0 is a more robust design-particularly in the wheel deck area. On the other hand, the Apex Wheel Stand may be slightly lighter, which could be an advantage depending on what you're looking for. Hope that helps. 👍
The pedal deck looks a little flimsy - there is a long unsupported section behind the bolt, and it's just held to the chosen angle by a bolt on either side. Is there really no flex/possibility of slipping?
Thanks for your question Saint. I didn't notice any flex during my testing. I think you would be absolutly fine running 90kg load cell pedals. If you're running pedals with much higher brake forces though, then you may experience some slight flex. Hope that helps. 👍
Will this stand be mountable to a thrustmaster ts-xw with the t3pa pedals?
Thanks for your question teejay. In this video, I'm actually running the Thrustmaster T3PA pedals (8:10) and TX wheel (7:30), which has the same hard mount points as TS-XW. So, the short answer is yes haha. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thank you very much! :)
Anyone know which one is better between this NLR 2.0 or the GT Omega Apex wheel stand?
I'm between those two, i have the GT DD PRO 8nm with Load cell kit Pedals
Appreciated if anyone can help me
Great video
Thanks for your question Luciano. Since filming this video, I've upgraded to the Fanatec CSL DD (with 8Nm boost kit) and ClubSport V3 pedals. I haven't tried the GT Omega Apex wheel stand, but I can vouch for the NLR Wheel Stand 2.0; it's a very robust and well designed wheel stand. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Thank you ;)
Can you adjust the angle of the rig so that it can be used under a desk ? My desk is about 72cm high.
Thanks for your question mate.
Unfortunately, you can't adjust the angle of the A-frame itself. However, you should be able to adjust the height of the wheel to match your desk height and position the wheel stand so that the pedals are underneath your desk. Hope that helps. 👍
I'm a noob. This was so helpful. Great video
Thanks so much for your kind words bananabread. Welcome to sim racing! 🏁
Hi do you know if this stand is compatible with the Thrustmaster T248x Wheel and T3pm pedals?
Thanks for your question SEN. Yes, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is pre-drilled to fit all Thrustmaster wheels and pedal sets. In this video, I'm actually using the Thrustmaster TX wheel and T3PA pedals. Hope that helps. 👍
How do you get it so slim with folding? Mine folds but unfolds a bit for the legs making it take up a good bit of space.
Thanks for your question Dalejrfan. Do you have a carpeted or hard floor? On a carpet, you can fold the wheel stand quite slim, so that the edges of the feet dig into the carpet to keep it secure. Alternatively, you can lean the wheel stand against a wall, using a cloth between to protect both the wall and your equipment. In either case though, this may put extra strain on the feet. So, if you have the space, it may be better to open the wheel stand out slightly. Hope that helps. 👍
Great review! could you please provide the dimentions of the shifter and handbrake mounts? I'm looking at buying one of these and mounting a usb handbrake and shifter from AliExpress, but I cant find detailed dimensions anywhere. Thanks!
Thanks for your comment and question Naut. Combined, the shifter and handbrake mount measures about 20 x 20cm. With a bit of cajoling, it should work for most models on the market. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Thank you, that definitely helps!
I usually play ets2 and acc, rarely play ac with f1 cars but wondering if this stand can occasionally be transformed down to a formula like seating position? I am thinking between the f-gt cockpit and this 2.0 stand. I am 185cm tall and prefer comfort over full simulation.
Thanks for your question mate. While you can increase the pedal deck angle to 15°, I don't think it's enough to support a true formula driving position-especially when using an office chair. The F-GT is a good bet, though a good foldable option is the F-GT Lite ( th-cam.com/video/B9w_4PwtAj4/w-d-xo.html ). Alternatively , if you hace the budget, the F-GT Elite is a fantastic rig ( th-cam.com/video/fLk8sa8Kv_k/w-d-xo.html ). Hope that helps. 👍
Your linked Amazon UK product page lists this stand for £386.95 instead of £179. 😳
Thanks for your comment
c0ldc0ne. Unfortunately, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is still really hard to source in the UK. Currently, the Amazon UK store is only offering US stock at a higher price. I’m actively keeping an eye on UK stock, so as soon as a better price becomes available I will update the links. I’d recommend waiting until then if you can. Hopefully it won’t be long. 🤞
Will it wor with a 15 NM wheel ?
Thanks for your question FullCircle. At just over 20kg, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is a substantial rig and remains planted when in use. I'm currently running an 8Nm CSL DD, however, I think you'd be fine running something more powerful. You may experience some slight flex with very high force feedback settings, however, I don't think you'd really notice this when racing. Hope that helps. 👍
Hi I know I’m well late to this, but do the T-LCM pedals fit on this stand ?
Thanks for your question Richie. Yes, the pedal plate is pre-drilled with slots that fit most consumer pedal sets, including the Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork that’s good to know as I’m planning on getting t-lcm pedals to go with my t300rs bt I brought
Great combo @@richietownsend8571-happy sim racing bud! 🏎🏁
Will the CSL Elite Fanatec pedal setup fit the pedal plate??
Thanks for your question Eric. Yes, the pedal plate is pre-drilled to fit all Fanatec pedal sets. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Aye, thank you very much
This is perfect (and upgradable)! Thank you for this video 👍🏽
Thanks for your comment and kind words tunsiehelden-it really means a lot. I hope I was also able to shed some light on your other question regarding running direct drive wheels with the GT Lite. 👍
Hi, i wanna use it on my couch, do you think it would slide forwards during breaking if i dont have an office chair in place? Thanks!
Thanks for your question marco. The Wheel Stand 2.0 is a pretty robust unit, at 22kg. So, as long as you're not applying excessive break pressure, I think you should be fine. Hope that helps. 👍
does it come with bolts for the wheels and peddals?
Thanks for your question Pappa. Yes, Next Level Racing has included some extra M6 bolts and washers to mount your wheel and pedals. Hope that helps. 👍
Great review!! But it appears to be out of stock again. Any news when it will be back for U.S delivery?
Thanks for your comment Gabriel-I'm stoked you liked the review. I'm not sure when the Wheel Stand 2.0 will be back in stock, but I'll keep an eye on stock levels and update the links accordingly. Fingers crossed more stock will be arriving soon. 🤞
Hello. Thanks for the video. It's compatible with Logitech pro wheel DD?
Thanks for your question YZ. I've just checked with Next Level Racing and I can confirm that the Wheel Stand 2.0 is fully compatible with the Logitech Pro DD wheel. Happy sim racing! 🏎🏁
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks for your response.
Do you feel a normal desk chair spins when using this
Thanks for your question Lesoyskr. This will largely depend on the specific desk chair you have. With my Herman Miller Aeron, it was surprisingly stable. Hope that helps. 👍
very useful and complete, thanks
Thanks Olivier-I'm stoked you liked the review. 👍
Just bought one of these bad boys, still setting it up and waiting for my Moza wheel to arrive. Surprised how heavy the fucker is, it seems extremely sturdy!
For sure mate, I would definitely recommend picking up some caster wheels if you need to regularly move the wheel stand between rooms. On a plus side, the extra weight keeps the wheel stand planted when racing hard. 🏎🏁
I had to bend the side of the pedal deck because the guide rails weren’t square.
Thanks for your comment Steven. Glad you managed to fix it with a bit of DIY. If you have any futher issues, I've found that Next Level Racing is really good at sending replacement parts when needed. 👍
Quite tempted to get one of these for my G29
Thanks for your comment mate. This would make an awesome combo. 👍
Would the DD1 work with this?
Thanks for your question Packzy. I think the Wheel Stand 2.0 is definitely strong enough for both the Fanatec DD1 and DD2. In fact, Next Level Racing has a great video showing the Wheel Stand DD running the DD2 at different force feedback settings ( th-cam.com/video/bjrTMew_-h8/w-d-xo.html ). The Wheel Stand 2.0 is very similar in design and construction to the Wheel Stand DD. The only real differnce is that the pedal plate support structure, on the Wheel Stand DD, is welded in place. While this would in theory result in the Wheel Stand DD being slightly more stable than the Wheel Stand 2.0, I don’t think that you will notice that much difference. And, I found the Wheel Stand 2.0 to be impressively stable. Note, in the Next Level Racing demo video, that there is some slight movement in the Wheel Stand DD when running the DD2 at high force feedback settings. So, I would suggest running the DD1 at around 50% for the best overall experience. Hope that helps. 👍
This review has really helped me make a decision as to whether to buy this for both my racing sims and flight sims, so many thanks for such an informative review. Also, what racing sim are you using in this video, iRacing?
Thanks for your kind words Guy-it means a lot. And, well spotted mate-I'm running iRacing in the video. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork You may be able to help me a little more: with regard to the shifter plate and associated arm, how far would you say it comes horizontally into the middle of the setup if it were to be mounted for right-handed use but mounted on the left leg of the stand? I ask as I would use the shifter mount for my HOTAS stick and hopefully be able to mount it in such a way as to have the shifter plate more or less between my legs with my stick on top, as a joystick would be for helicopters. Hope that makes sense!
Good question @@TheOneTrueSpLiT. I don't think you'd be able to position the shifter mount in a central position, without modifications. However, you should be able to position it above your left leg. You may need to raise the height to allow enough clearance for your legs to access the rudder pedals. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork cool! Can you mount the shifter on the right side and is it also PlayStation compatible 😂 assuming it’s just the stand, sure it is
@@justskyedriftz Yes-you can attach the shifter & handbrake mount to either side of the rig. And, console compatibility is determined by your electronics, so as long as you have a PlayStation compatible wheel, pedal and shifter, you're good to go. Hope that clarifies. 👍
Greet video! Can you tell me how much distance/clearence you need to store it without the shifter assemble ?
Thanks for your question
Christiaan-I’m stoked you liked the review. Without the shifter assembly, the Wheel Stand 2.0 requires a storage space of about 55 x 50 x 120cm. Note that this is with a standard wheel and pedal set attached. Hope that helps. 👍
Lovely review mate. All the information you need.
Thanks for your kind words Kaybe-I'm stoked you liked the review. 🤙
Fantastic review! Do you have any idea how this Stand will workout with the Fanatic ClubSport shifter 1.5? Do you reckon it will sit too high?
Thanks for your kind words Geefiasco-I'm stoked you liked the review. As I mentioned in the video, I would have liked to have been able to drop the shifter down a little lower. With my Thrustmaster TH8A, I was still able to position it in a comfortable location and replicate a reasonably realistic driving position. However, with the Fanatec ClubSport shifter 1.5, your mileage may vary. If you're going for a rally or drift setup, then it could work to your advantage, raising the shifter up closer to the wheel. I hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Cheers that helps. Much appreciated.
Getting my 1st setup (csl dd and csl lc Pedals) too. Considering to buy this Wheelstand cuz I need a new chair for my desk aswell. Is it much of a problem with the chair rotating while driving with this stand?
Thanks for your question Sameh. The Wheel Stand 2.0 would make an excellent first rig and pair well with the CSL DD. Plus, you can upgrade it to a full rig-using the GT Seat Add-on- down the line. Personally, I didn't have any issue with chair rotation, though this somewhat depends on the chair you use. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks for your quick answer :) i totally forgot about it being upgradable in the future, which makes it even more interesting for me. but then i can order my new chair asap without any thoughts, the new chair will also have tiltable armrests, so they won't affect the positioning in any way 👍
Great review just bought one of these to play GT7 on my VR2 👌👌
Thanks for your comment and kind words GE-happy sim racing! 🏎🏁
Warning for flight siming this is not wide enough for some flight pedals like the thrustmaster trp, etc with out taking the pedal plate completely off and putting the pedals on the floor.
Thanks for your comment Alex; that's great information. 👍
Is it good for Moza r5?
Thanks for your question mate. I currently run a Fanatec CSL DD, boosted to 8Nm. And, the Wheel Stand 2.0 is more than strong enough to support this with minimal flex. So, a 5.5Nm Moza R5 would be fine. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks!
Whats your chair model please :0 i truely love it and might order it too thanks
Thanks for your question OKINOKO. It's the Herman Miller Aeron (a great all-round office chair): adaptnet.work/HMAeron
@@ADAPTNetwork 1700 euro for a chair ??????????? What 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Undersnow243 Yeah, it is an expensive chair, but it will last you forever. You can get some good second hand deals online as well. 👍
Nice review. I can see that the footprint is 55x65. Can you tell me how large it is in both direction including the shifter and handbrake mount? I mean, in opened state (without the gaming chair cradle). If I buy this, I probably won't fold it, but I'm limited on space. Thank you.
Thanks for your question fatal. Including the shifter and handbrake mount, the Wheel Stand 2.0 measures approximately 75 x 80cm. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Thank you!
@@ADAPTNetwork There is a sale here, I've ordered one (~187€), hope it will fit. :D Thanks for the measurements.
Thanks for your heads up @@-fatal--enjoy the new rig! 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Thanks. It's fit. Waiting for my castor wheels because it's heavy as hell with the stuff mounted. :D
I wanna buy the Fanatec DD but can’t decide between this or the F-/Gt Lite…
Thanks for your question Peter. I would personally opt for the Wheel Stand 2.0, as it’s structurally stronger than the F-/GT Lite rigs. While you could run the Fanatec DD on either of the Lite rigs, I think you’ll lose some of the force feedback through vibrations in the frame. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Thank you for your reply. How low can the wheel stand pro 2.0 go? I’m planning on using it with my TV, but my TV stand is only 40cm tall (TV is 55” oled). I’m worried about the stand being too tall and it obstructing vision to the TV.
No worries @@ImJustPeter. In the lowest position, the wheel deck is 69cm from the ground. However, if you remove the shifter mount arm, it can go even lower. It might be worth placing your wheel on some boxes, in front of your TV, to see if this is workable for your setup. Personally, I think you’ll be able to get away with it as your eyeline will be above your wheel, looking down at your TV, and your TV is a decent size to compensate.
Hello buddy! First of all just wanna thank you a bunch for that awesome of a review that you have brought up for us, you are really doing a great job covering all the key points so we can make an idea on what to expect for this wheel stand.
However, small question: does this wheel stand comes with bolts for wheel and shifter?
I am planning to mount my TM TX Leather edition and Th8a shifter which don't come with mounting bolts for a wheel stand.
Thanks for your kind words BCG-I'm stoked you liked the review. Yes, true to form, Next Level Racing includes some spare M6 bolts to mount your wheel, pedals and shifter. 👍
I added the chair holder system to my 100 euros foldable wheel stand. Not the same as this one, but somehow I copied it, and it works pretty good
That's awesome mate-see you on the virtual race track. 🏎🏁
Bro great review!
Thanks mate-I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. See you on the virtual race track! 🏁
nice review ! Thank You !!!
Thanks Vince-I'm stoked you liked the review. Happy sim racing bud. 🤙
Thanks for the review
Cheers mate-I'm stoked you liked the review. 🙏
Can you set the pedal plate up for a formula style?
Thanks for your question Brent. The pedal plate can be adjusted to a maximum tilt angle of 15° (8:36). So, unfortunately, I don’t think you’ll be able to simulate a formula driving position with the Wheel Stand 2.0. That being said, it might be possible using a pedal set with internal angle adjustabilty. What pedal set do you have?
@@ADAPTNetwork I have the Clubsport v3 from Fanatec
Nice @@brentvo6662, I just picked up this pedal set myself. If you attach the additional pedal faces, this will increase the angle of the pedals a bit. However, to be honest, I don’t think it will be enough to acheive a true formula position. You’ll probably get someway there, but it might not be enough for you. So, it depends on how important that is to you. I hope that helps. 👍
anyone can answer me if this would hold a csl dd without problems or too much movement, i don't care at all about a little bit of movement, also i don't play drifting or rallys, just f1 and stuff like that, but i definitely don't have space for a cockpit in my room, would this stand work for me with a csl dd?
Thanks for your question Marcos. I actually run a CSL DD at the moment, with the 8Nm boost kit. The Wheel Stand 2.0 is more than stable enough to support the wheel, with very little flex. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Thank you so much, i appreciate it, you have earned a new sub
Thanks for this helpful video!
No worries
menkSen-I'm really glad you found the review useful. 👍
+Thanks for the video it was very informative and to the point. keep it up!
Thanks mate-appreciate the kind words. 🤙
I know this was posted a year ago so I am late. I need a wheel stand but i want shifters or joysticks on both sides can you purchase another joystick plate like is included with this stand? Cough Farming Simulator cough ..
Thanks for your question CK. The Wheel Stand 2.0 has the ability to support a shifter/joystick mount on both sides of the rig. However, you'd need to reach out to Next Level Racing directly to see if the team can supply you with an additional mount. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork I did exactly that. I reached out and they quickly responded that they could indeed send me the mount.
so when you fold it up for storage it takes up more space then if you leave it in its use position?
Thanks for your question wickfut. When folded, the Wheel Stand 2.0 will be slightly higher-especially when accounting for the extra height of the wheel. Though, it will still take up less space in your room, if you lean it against a wall or stow it away in a cupboard. Hope that clarifies. 👍
Nice review I’ve been looking for a place to buy this stand with no luck. I’m at South Africa Amazon charging R5500.00 just for shipping before tax. Way more than the stand any idea where I can buy this
Thanks for your comment Phakamani-I'm stoked you liked the review. The Wheel Stand 2.0 seems to be very hard to get hold of at the moment. My best advice is to keep checking search engine shopping results, as different retailers will obtain stock at some point.
excellent review- thanks
Thanks for your comment NDR-I'm stoked you liked the review. 🤙
Hi~~The width is 55cm or 57.5cm ?
I see website is say 57.5
Thanks for your question Brian. I measured 55cm, however, this doesn't include the shifter mount. Hope that helps. 👍
Thank you,that really help me👍
If only we could slide these stands under our desks so it wouldn't hog the room.
The angle of the wheel base mount looks too small to angle under a PC desk
Great suggestion Jelly; this would work under a standing desk ( th-cam.com/video/8n6YyKGOCg0/w-d-xo.html ).
Fit the fanatec csl dd?
For sure, you can easily mount the Fanatec CSL DD by slotting the T-nuts into the base. 👍
Great video Thankyou
Thanks for your comment D3-I'm stoked you liked the review. Happy sim racing! 🏎🏁
Sold out online 😩 great review I want to pick this up
Thanks for your comment Dan-I’m stoked you liked the review. Where are you based?
@@ADAPTNetwork based in the US
@@Daniel-San808 Cool, I’ll keep an eye on stock and update the links accordingly. Hopefully, you’ll be able to get one soon. 🤞
@@Daniel-San808 It's back in stock now.
@@DJHeroMasta I was able to get one a few weeks back. Thanks 🙏
Going to buy one because of your review!
Thanks for your comment Notremah-I really appreciate the support. I’ll be sure to update the links in the video description as soon as the wheel stand is in stock. Fingers crossed this won’t be too long. 🤞
This thing is really solid, even with my dd setup. Just not portable with its rubber base. Which is a shame bcs i use a wheel stand so i can use my pc like normal and fold it when i dont need it
Thanks for your comment Abdul. I agree that it would have been nice if Next Level Racing included some caster wheels, as with the Wheel Stand DD. However, you can buy them separately online ( amzn.to/3ucGswX ). Hope that helps. 👍