The 1854/67 Wänzl rifle in caliber 14x33R
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The 1854/67 Wänzl rifle family firing a self contained cartridge was the first generally issued breach loading arm of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy pushed into service just after the defeat of 1866, converted from Lorenz muzzle loaders. That's the point when ammo making became industrialized. History, ballistics and shooting: all about a beautiful vintage arm.
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The old gunsmiths really were brilliant craftsmen.
My 1873 trapdoor is amazingly accurate. Hate to get hit with a 45-70
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Despite these "trap door" breechloading conversion designs being picked because of their cheapness and simplicity, I like the trap door system a lot. The Trap Door Springfield is probably my favorite of the American single shot rifles of the late 1860s to 1880s. It's a great single shot system. ^This one looks very similar, so I'm sure it's just as good.
I didn't realize how similar this is to the American Springfield trapdoor.
Super interesting video.
Well duuh the trapdoor is 20 years younger
@@az12223 the original Lorenz rifle is. The Alan Convertion is younger by only about 6 years.
The patient for the Allin conversion is dated 1865.
Springfield trapdoor was from 1866 in 50/70G and 1873 com 45/70G- last produst model 1884!
As a owner of a trapdoor I'd have to agree with ya'. Would love to shoot one of these babies and see how they compare.
Great work, my friend. Such a parallel all over the world... It's interesting that so many countries did essentially the same thing in quickly converting their muzzleloaders, as a stopgap until smaller bore rifles became available. The diagrams at the end bear striking resemblance to those in the British manuals. Perfect balance between shooting, history and ballistics... Just excellent. Thank you.
Many thanks Rob! These rifles are a joy to research and shoot!
@@capandball Aren't they! :-)
@@britishmuzzleloaders Someday Rob needs to go visit Hungary! That would be a fantastic video.
@@eVVigilance One day!
Love this channel. So damn good.
Luis Santiago so damn true! :D
Luis Santiago, I agree this is up there with forgotten weapons and C&R Arsenal top notch content.
So damn agreed! XD
I know it’s awesome
I love this era of firearms. These modifications are so simple yet so complex. The same flintlock designs from the late 1700s were modernized into caplocks, then again into breach loaders. Note the cleaning rod is actually still a ramrod curved for ramming minie balls. It's like watching the rifles evolve, still with vestigial parts.
Well done. Articulate and simple explanation of everything. Always a pleasure to watch you in action!
The history that you provide along with the rifle is just awesome! great video as always!
Excellent video! I always enjoy your history lessons, keep up the really good work!
Great video. It has a combination of some of my favorite things: military history and history in general and guns/shooting. The information was detailed and knowledgeable as always. Definitely one of my favorite channels.
I really enjoy your channel and the wonderful information you tell us. Always, a great story and journey in time. Also, I mostly love your smile of satisfaction when you fire that last round.
Love these videos. I'm extremely happy that you've been able to get your hands on these rifles and keep them in such amazing shooting condition. Keep up the good work my brother.
The quality of your videos is amazing! Love your work!!!
Dude that's so freaking cool love this channel
Extremely entertaining and informative video. Keep the good work!
Outstanding as usual! Many thanks.
It is good to see your channel again dear sir. I was impressed with this model of conversion in 14x33R. In America at Springfield Armory the second iteration of the Allin-designed breech loading mechanism which was a redesign of the model of 1865 which had used a rim-fire .58 caliber cartridge. The Springfield Armory would in turn produce the model of 1866 using a 50-70-450 center-fire cartridge. This being a .50 caliber bullet weighing 450 grains over a 70 grain charge of black powder in a copper case. This would be the predecessor to the Springfield model of 1873 in 45-70-405 center-fire we all know simply as the 45-70 Government.
Your channel is fantastic. this is up there with forgotten weapons and C&R Arsenal top notch content. Thank you
Outstanding, thank you for posting. I am lucky enough to own a Wänzl, fascinating rifles.
Excellent demonstration as always.
What a great, great stuff you provide sir. Thank you.
Excellent video as always.
Always on point !!! Great content
Beautifully done video, as always mate
your videos have really given me a new appreciation for these kinds of rifles
Superb video, love the silicone gel, that was impressive. Great history lesson. 👍👍
Excellent video, as usual.
Brilliant, very informative, very well made. Thank you.
Amazing, as usual. One can learn a lot watching you.
Many thanks, bro..!
Regards..!
So nice to see that piece and just how well she does. Excellent video, thank you.
Great video. I love old ball and cap guns as well as old military guns.
Absolutely brilliant, wonderful content beautifully presented.
As always a great production and very educational unlike so many slash and burn videos popular today. Keep up the winning combination.
thank you sir for uploading!
greets from germany!
A gun both elegant and fast. And as always, great content.
Very thorough and enjoyable presentation.
At 20:26 to 20:38 I think you can see the effects of compressed air detonating, creating a small localized explosion. I'm not certain if there's flammable material on the bullet, such as unburnt powder or flammable grease left in the channel aiding in the combustion, but either way, as best as I can tell, this is what's happening:
20:26 The bullet penetrates the medium, causing air to be sucked into the cavity.
20:28 The entry cavity closes, and the silicon medium seals, preventing air from escaping the cavity. The exit cavity also begins to return to its original shape, compressing the air in the cavity.
20:30 The compressed air, due to heat and pressure, detonates, burning the oxygen in the shrinking cavity, causing an explosion.
20:31 The energy from the expanding explosion causes a bubble to form.
20:34 The bubble begins to collapse.
20:37 This collapse causes a compression that leads to another explosion.
20:38 Another bubble forms from the second detonation.
Yes, that is the "dieseling effect". I have read different ideas what is the flammable component in the compressed mixture.
I have watched several of your videos. I have enjoyed them and subscribed to your channel. Thank you so much.
First time I’ve come across your channel. Very excellent, Great video!
I love your style, not to much, or to little, just what matters. One would not know without putting in time at the range!
Thank you for taking your time for all your information.
Very nice video as always :) thank you
This was a fantastic video
i realy enjoyed this very much and i thank you for your gentlemanly professional presentation,
You are so smart sir, love your history lessons. I really enjoy your talks on tactics and Austrian and Prussian War history. More of these please! I feel there is not enough videos out here on the subject and I would love if someone could point me in a good direction to any channels or anything like that!
Really GREAT video.
Thanks.
Amazing content!
Greeting from Brazil!
I love your TH-cam channel and your the history that you talked about it is awesome thank you very much
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Many thanks for your excellent presentation
Premium Content, so very interesting! Awesome, thank you!
Beautiful weapon, beautiful video very pro.Excellente channel..
Good shooting and great video production
Something about learning about these older guns is just so Damon interesting and entertaining. And this guy is perfect to teach it
Excellent presentation, and superb gun zen.
Good video, informative and entertaining.
Excellent historical video,
Once again, the long wait for another capandball video was entirely worth it. Someday I hope you can do a Podewils-Linder.
That's in the plans
excellent video
Great video, sir.
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Thanks enjoyed the video !
Thanks for another awesome video. I really appreciate your research and investment in to the weapons and time to make the videos.
Super interesting video.
Although I am late to the "party", I will write something.
Indeed an interesting video.
The Wänzl trapdoor is unusal, to not have a minor locking system. Allin, Albini- Braendlin, Terssen all have a minor lock.
I think also the Millbank - Amsler only have one lock, although that is the main lock, and it is not conected to the hammer but to the operating rod.
The tight fit between the trapdoor block and the reciever, can however provide it from open easily.
I don't know what it is about these 19th Century rifles (especially the "Needle" Rifle) but as someone who doesn't really have a tangible interest in firearms, your videos are amazing.
Grand ! Thank You !
👍 hervorragend, dankeschön!
Another good gun channel ...
Gorgeous, and I mean gorgeous rifle. Interesting cartridge as well I own a trap door and would love to shoot this baby.
That is one beautiful rifle.
AMAZING footage at 20:03! That was cool to see.
Excellent, thank you. This locking system seems much sturdier than the Trapdoor cam. The Berdan conversion, I think, used an inline striker, which also acted as the locking bolt.
well done, thank you.
I will look into that, Thank you.
super vidéo , félicitation et merci de nous faire partager cet essai de cette très belle pièce ......a+
Good job 👌👍
A Lorenz rifle that turn into breech loading and better than the Prussian needle guns. Feels like Austria knows how to manufacture guns
2 years too late however
@@MrSven3000 True
He has some neat stuff !!
In America the patient for the trap door rifle is held by Erskine S.Allin. Dated 1865. But I’m still not sure who did it first.
I love these style breech loaders
Now this was very interesting, excellent.. Peace
Love the history cause most of my family is from Prussia and I credit you for getting me into muzzle loading now I have a flintlock Kentucky rifle made by traditions and a 54 cal missippi rifle from ero arms wich is outa business
Welcome to the sport! :-D
erlycuyler thank you I find it more fun to shoot blackpowder wepons more than modern day guns
Always Like Your Videos My Friend You Shoot a Lot Of Antique Firearms I Never See Anywhere Else But Museums 😀😊😀 Thank You 👍🏼
Please don't write like that, ever. Thank you.
Very nice, thank you. I've got one of these at home, alas in non-shooting condition - for now. But we'll see what can be done about that at some point.
Wow amazing gun
Very Cool!
Awesome Gun.
This is great stuff. I'd hate to be on the receiving end of that round. Very nasty. Also this rifle is accurate at closer ranges. Your videos are always in good quality and informative.
As always volley fire was desirable back then. Good shooting and demonstration of historical manuals
Did you listen to this video at all? Please do not compare European changed tactics with US ones.
I have never know that the rimfire cartridges were reloadable! Now I can look at the firearm history from completely new angle.
Incredible, Wundervoll !! Toles !
Very nice. It would be great to see a replicas built in a modern cartridge. Very nice indeed.
I really envy your access to all these neat old guns.
That was wildly fantastic. You are of course a very good teacher, a great subject, I can't ask for better. But I can ask for more. ;) I own a couple of pre turn of the century rifles. A 1888 Trapdoor Springfield, and a 1876-1880 Peabody Martini in .43 Spanish, and last reproductions of the Remington Rolling block and Sharps. Both in 45/70. So I somewhat understand the thoughts of that era on ballistics. I have become a bit infatuated with the .43 Spanish as an excellent round for the time frame. I believe it would be a very interesting video if you would pick the rifle of your choice and evaluate it as a military round and hunting capabilities. I would like to add I have been sub'ed to your channel for as long as I can remember and want to thank you for hours of excellent content. You can take credit for my deep interest in the era and weapons.
Hello,We too have evaluated the Infanteriegewehr Lorenz system with its Kompressionsgeschoss, Wänzl-Jägerstutzen Model B and Wänzl-Infanteriegewehr with their respective bayonets on TH-cam and found them accurate and a pleasure to shoot. Also the Dreyse system and Podewils-Lindner.Your channels is always informative and entertaining and does not deserve the negative 'Thumbs Down.' Thank you for your work.G and L A-R-West FHBSA
Many thanks! I saw your videos! Good job!
Love your channel! I really want to start collecting black powder guns, but wifu would not approve on more guns 😂
Time for a new one maybe an upgrade perhaps or repair
Hi Balázs, excellent work as usual.. One question: Have you considered make a video with Ian from Forgotten Weapons? It would be awesome to see you guys together.
Well than one of them should fly across the Atlantic.
it's so crazy that this gun is more accurate than my M95/30. Just amazing.
Interesting rifle. Main problem trying to shoot one today is reloading for the rimfire cartridge most are chambered for. A bit of a pain, but it can be done.
I'm unsure if anyone else has said so... but one of the primary reasons bayonets were later mounted under the bore rather than to the side was the escaping gas at the muzzle would hit the bayonet and cause an impact shift when a bayonet was fixed.
It may have been hitting slightly to the left as the sights were regulated/adjusted with a bayonet fitted.
That's a nice rifle. I'd take that over a modern rifle for sure. Beautiful craftsmanship.