There is a joke about developing a muzzle loader load. Two old men bump into each other in a fabric store, both are carrying Micrometers what do they say? "What caliber do you shoot?"
Just thought you might like to know that apart from swaged bullets, the most accurate lead bullets are ladle poured from a two ounce dipper with a cast hole that runs from top to bottom of the ladle. This means the ladle pours off the bottom and all the dross stays on top. Bullets poured from a pot have a venturi effect from the needle and seat and form air bubbles in the lead, so the weights are all over the place. Ladle poured bullet weights are so good that they will match Sierra jacketed bullets as to consistant weights. One thing you must do when pouring the mold is to overpour the mold cavity to drive all impurities and air out of the mold. Hope this helps.
You were cracking me up when you were giggling like a kid with your first group. Anyone, including this guy, who has a rifle outshoot expectations has done that giggle lol
Kudos! Since I stumbled across your channel a few years ago I've been an avid watcher. Your content is good and you raise the bar for production values with each video.
Fantastic ! Congratulations, really fine shooting. What is happening in Canada is that because we have had such excellent game management the number of Deer have been increasing for 25 years. The regulations allowed an added season for muzzle loaders only. Many people got into the modern rifles, and slowly more and more people started shooting reproductions of originals. The sport is growing tremendously. I look forward to maybe one day shooting in the Whitworth or equivalent in Canada.
I love how your not happy with your shoot but still the national champion......you sir are an inspiration always strive for perfection love your videos they are among my favourite on youtube 👍
Thanks for demonstrating the presicion of this gun and the need for fine tuning, and of coarse how accurate you and the gun can be. Congrats' champ, fine shooting!
You can tell he is proud of his trophy.. All the time he spent paid off...And I been around guys like this. They spent weeks tuning one load. Down to batch numbers produced. When they find that perfect load... I would add. Nothing beats a Peep sight.
I use Vernier sights on my sharps I love shooting cartridge guns long distance couldn’t imagine shooting a muzzle loaders at that distance. Good history thank you
You're not kidding. It took me nearly a year to find a bullet/load combination for my most recent modern cartridge rifle acquisition. I've had my Pedersoli Sharps for many years now, and still don't have a load capable of accuracy like you shot at the Championships, but I'm closing in on it. Congratulations on your 100-meter win!
Another great video, thank you. When shooting these fine rifles, I understand regarding the sizing, but is the lead pure, or a hardened lead alloy? Please keep making the youtube video's please.
I am so impressed! I have made my own cap and ball pistols from scratch and you have been the inspiration! If you are ever in the U.S. let us know! I live inWestbrook Maine and I wish that I could come visit YOU!
Excellent video. I was born in Birkenhead so it's good to see we had a sight maker there. The town was developed around Cammel Laird Ship Yard which also made the Confederate ' Alabama ' . The drydock still exists. The Williamson Gallery and Museum may have further details about your Sight Maker.
Anyone interested in long range target shooting should look up George R. Farr “Dad”. He used an “off the rack” military rifle, military ammunition and no accoutrements. He used no sling, moved in-between shots and had only a micrometer added to the rear sight. He was also much older than the other competitors. Very interesting story.
As a britisher i approve very nice rifle fantastic video they still shoot military style rifles at bisley its called f class you should pop over and have a go do a vid if you do you will enjoy it 👍👍
I have a dejavue. A view weeks ago, my screw from the sight was loose so i set all my shots to high in the 7/8. I find my mistake and end with 5 tens in a row... So we learned: In the next competition we will check our screws before 😂 Congrats to the champion 😉
Kia Ora Cap.Great video. As always:) Big congratulations on your win. Great shooting. Mmm Cap. Have you ever heard of a Hayes Enfield at all? I have one. They were designed for match shooting I here. But when NZ had our uncivil war & America was having its own, NZ got issued the Hayes Enfield. They are not in the league of whitworth, but they are a fair shooter & have some interesting differences. Love to see you review one if you could? Keep on muzzleloading Cap. Kind regards Chris Ki kite nga mihi.
Hmm those rifles must be pretty expensive, guess a good starter to black powder for me will be a 1884 ram rod bayonet trap door :) great shooting! Theres juat something about shooting black powder that seems so appealing to me.
Another great video! Take some fatherly advice, work on your prone shooting because there will be a time when you can't get into position. Arthritis makes everything difficult. There was a book written by a 19 th century shooter (Mann?) about the effects of barrel defects and bullet defects and accuracy. He found that an accurate cast bullet needed a perfect base to give accuracy.
Congratulations on some fine shooting sir..I also loved the illustrations the first with all the spectators lined up down the side of the field..See them do that today...LOL Love your channel..
Hmm, if I remember it right it is important to fill in the amount of Blackpowder into the barrel after cleaning it and before loading the bullet. I never heared about cleaning after loading the powder.
That wasn't how these target rifles were generally loaded. Biggest thing is to clear the fouling that the bullet would hit on the way out. Since the bullet never goes back behind where the top of the charge is, there's no need to swab there. All you end up doing is pushing fouling down into the patent breech, and those are an absolute pain to unclog if you plug the fire channel (one of the reasons I still prefer a drum and bolster arrangement). If you don't use an over-powder card, you might have to use the method you mentioned, as there is no barrier stopping the wet patch from messing with the powder.
hi friend i am a fan of your channel and also of those musket spikes i know you don't know me but i don't have money and you can't get a rarity like this here in brazil.
Hi. Have you tried paper patched projectiles? To my way of thinking, the fit of your existing grease groove projectile appears just a little on the loose side, in that it appears to slide down the bore a little too easily. If you patched with onion paper (ie the type of writing paper that was once used for writing airmail letters) you would increase the projectile 'fit' without inducing leading. Of course, you would have to make a metal (brass sheet) template to cut out the patches, and those patches must be applied to the projectile very carefully to ensure uniformity (particularly where the two ends of the patch meet), but they are well worth the effort. You can use either purpose built smooth sided paper patch projectiles or a suitably sized grease groove bullet. Both will work. Assuming we are working with a good bore to start with, a paper patched BP rifle is, in my experience, more than capable of 5 shot groups of 1.5 inches or less at 100 m. If you haven't already tried it I'd urge you to give it a go. Cheers.
If you have resistance that can't be overcome with the weight of the rammer, and maybe a finger, your bullets are getting too tight. With a greased bullet, all you'll do is induce unnecessary deformation, but with a PP bullet (in my experience), you run the risk of tearing the patching. I don't know if you lube your paper, but if you don't , they have more friction going down than a lubed paper patch or a greased bullet (I do, but I'm surprised at the number of people who don't). I have found that a total diameter of .001 to .002 inches under land diameter is usually ideal.
Great work! Even more impressive considering the wind drift of these. If you can master this kind of shooting modern rifles will seem easy! Do you keep powder from the same lot #? Is there such a thing as match grade caps?
Oh man good shootin"! I was laughing my -ss off when you were describing the loose sight. How many times has little details (Lack of attention to) fouled me up? To many times to count. We have a large book of numbered excuses. Great match where you get 3 Mulligans.(Screw ups). Congrats on your win, in an international competition like that, that's quite the accomplishment.
Very informative video, my question is the following, what is the advantage of the paper patched bullet in longer ranges. For shooting in the winter months in Canada I will use paper patched bullets because any bullet lube will turn to concrete. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
You really do an excellent job on making these videos. I am working up a load for my Pederasoli Whitworth. It takes a lot of patience and trial and error. Working with a cylindrical soft lead bullet. Not getting very good accuracy. May have to fork out the money on a Paper Patch Hexagonal bullet to get the most of this rifle. Though, I do have an excuse too! The trigger is horrible on these rifles. Going to spend some money to get it put in better shape. Any advice would be helpful!!!
Pretty good shooting, but you need to work on your excuses a little. 😃 I have to admit, I'm impressed by the accuracy. I like older guns, but not that old. When I do get a muzzle loader, I'll definitely look into those boxes.
Hey which rifle was it that had a Hexagonal shape to the outside of its barrel as opposed to a cylindrical one? I swear I've seen one before but I don't know if it was one specific model or if it was a design that encompassed a bunch of them. Either way if you could help me out, that would be great! :D
Great shooting with a wonderful rifle, congratulations champion.
There is a joke about developing a muzzle loader load.
Two old men bump into each other in a fabric store, both are carrying Micrometers
what do they say?
"What caliber do you shoot?"
:)
LOL
Just thought you might like to know that apart from swaged bullets, the most accurate lead bullets are ladle poured from a two ounce dipper with a cast hole that runs from top to bottom of the ladle. This means the ladle pours off the bottom and all the dross stays on top. Bullets poured from a pot have a venturi effect from the needle and seat and form air bubbles in the lead, so the weights are all over the place. Ladle poured bullet weights are so good that they will match Sierra jacketed bullets as to consistant weights. One thing you must do when pouring the mold is to overpour the mold cavity to drive all impurities and air out of the mold. Hope this helps.
You were cracking me up when you were giggling like a kid with your first group. Anyone, including this guy, who has a rifle outshoot expectations has done that giggle lol
Rifleman2.0 Truth.
thought the same thing. When I eventually got my first BP Rifle to shoot a decent group I was giggling all night haha
Congratulations! A well earned victory.
Kudos! Since I stumbled across your channel a few years ago I've been an avid watcher. Your content is good and you raise the bar for production values with each video.
Fantastic ! Congratulations, really fine shooting. What is happening in Canada is that because we have had such excellent game management the number of Deer have been increasing for 25 years. The regulations allowed an added season for muzzle loaders only.
Many people got into the modern rifles, and slowly more and more people started shooting reproductions of originals.
The sport is growing tremendously. I look forward to maybe one day shooting in the Whitworth or equivalent in Canada.
whats that powder measure? That looks fantastic!
Congratulations on your championship .🥇🧿
Congratulations on the championship! Thanks for taking us along the journey.
I love how your not happy with your shoot but still the national champion......you sir are an inspiration always strive for perfection love your videos they are among my favourite on youtube 👍
Thanks for demonstrating the presicion of this gun and the need for fine tuning, and of coarse how accurate you and the gun can be.
Congrats' champ, fine shooting!
You can tell he is proud of his trophy.. All the time he spent paid off...And I been around guys like this. They spent weeks tuning one load. Down to batch numbers produced. When they find that perfect load...
I would add. Nothing beats a Peep sight.
Way to go CHAMP!!
Congratulations! That is an awesome rifle!
Such a joy to listen to a quality presentation and just the antidote to the endless brash - shouting into your face -American vids
That's some fantastic shooting! Hope I have the same results with my recent purchase of an Austrian 9mm X 47R Target rifle!
Beautiful group and gun. I do understand the patience in developing loads. Took me a year to find my load for my Shiloh sharps 45-110.
I use Vernier sights on my sharps I love shooting cartridge guns long distance couldn’t imagine shooting a muzzle loaders at that distance. Good history thank you
Fantastic grouping! congratulations on your win!
Love those sights! Congratulations! One of my favorite channels
That's an extraordinary group gor a BP rifle.. well done, sir!
You're not kidding. It took me nearly a year to find a bullet/load combination for my most recent modern cartridge rifle acquisition. I've had my Pedersoli Sharps for many years now, and still don't have a load capable of accuracy like you shot at the Championships, but I'm closing in on it. Congratulations on your 100-meter win!
We just gonna ignore how classy and badass this man’s accent is?
Beautiful rifle and very good shooting. Congrats on place 1👍
Love the ordnance and video quality of this channel. Glad to see you back making videos.
Excellent study in marksmanship and technical detail.
Congratulations on the win
Another great video, thank you.
When shooting these fine rifles, I understand regarding the sizing,
but is the lead pure, or a hardened lead alloy?
Please keep making the youtube video's please.
Congratulations on your win!
I am so impressed! I have made my own cap and ball pistols from scratch and you have been the inspiration! If you are ever in the U.S. let us know! I live inWestbrook Maine and I wish that I could come visit YOU!
He's an asshole irl
An outstanding accomplishment indeed. Shoot lots and stay safe.
Congratulations on your championship.
Really good video, very informative and interesting. Lovely to see the small bore rifle you have it shooting so well. Congrats on your win
Fantastic, I learn something new every video you put out. I've been watching your videos for quite some time now. Congrats on your win.
Excellent congrats are in order....Thanks..From Kentucky...!!
Outstanding! From a sports shooter in the UK, Congratulations on your result! :)
Nice shooting! Beautiful rifles.
What make Brass powder measure is that? Where can I get one?
Excellent work on this video.
If I ever came down with a sickness that required me to have someone else narrate my videos it would be you 👍👍
Excellent video. I was born in Birkenhead so it's good to see we had a sight maker there.
The town was developed around Cammel Laird Ship Yard which also made the Confederate ' Alabama ' . The drydock still exists. The Williamson Gallery and Museum may have further details about your Sight Maker.
Anyone interested in long range target shooting should look up George R. Farr “Dad”. He used an “off the rack” military rifle, military ammunition and no accoutrements. He used no sling, moved in-between shots and had only a micrometer added to the rear sight. He was also much older than the other competitors. Very interesting story.
It took me over 2 1/2 months to work up a target load for my .54; now I don't change a thing in my loading sequence.
As a britisher i approve very nice rifle fantastic video they still shoot military style rifles at bisley its called f class you should pop over and have a go do a vid if you do you will enjoy it 👍👍
Congratulations! Excellent shooting with a beautiful gun.
I have a dejavue. A view weeks ago, my screw from the sight was loose so i set all my shots to high in the 7/8. I find my mistake and end with 5 tens in a row... So we learned: In the next competition we will check our screws before 😂
Congrats to the champion 😉
Kia Ora Cap.Great video. As always:) Big congratulations on your win. Great shooting.
Mmm Cap. Have you ever heard of a Hayes Enfield at all?
I have one. They were designed for match shooting I here. But when NZ had our uncivil war & America was having its own, NZ got issued the Hayes Enfield.
They are not in the league of whitworth, but they are a fair shooter & have some interesting differences.
Love to see you review one if you could?
Keep on muzzleloading Cap.
Kind regards Chris
Ki kite nga mihi.
Congratulations. That's some feat with that ancient, however still superb rifle. Good job !
@tacfoley Grammar Nazi Alert !
Great shooting, Champ
What a nice rifle !
Your work, is superb.
That was Great shooting. I really enjoy Black Powder shooting. Keep up the awesome shooting.
Cool , cool COOL ! . Also damn good shooting , Well Done & Thanks for showing us the results of your efforts .
I like your Videos...Learn a lot of Technik and there is no fail to say "it was my mistake". Thanks
Hmm those rifles must be pretty expensive, guess a good starter to black powder for me will be a 1884 ram rod bayonet trap door :) great shooting! Theres juat something about shooting black powder that seems so appealing to me.
Excellent shooting, beautiful rifle and great video!
Beautiful final shots!!
I always enjoy your videos. Great shooting and that is wonderful rifle you have. Thank you for sharing this with us. Congratulations on your award!
Unbelievable!
Another great video!
Take some fatherly advice, work on your prone shooting because there will be a time when you can't get into position. Arthritis makes everything difficult.
There was a book written by a 19 th century shooter (Mann?) about the effects of barrel defects and bullet defects and accuracy. He found that an accurate cast bullet needed a perfect base to give accuracy.
I fully agree! The complete fill in the mold is proved by a sharp edge at the bottom. And to save that, that's why I use the carton over powder wad.
Congratulations on some fine shooting sir..I also loved the illustrations the first with all the spectators lined up down the side of the field..See them do that today...LOL Love your channel..
Congratulations Balázs!
Love your Chanel ,great knowledge .
A really interesting video about a really interesting rifle.
And great shooting !
Congratulations on your Championship.
Congratulations, well done, very nice shooting👍
Congrats, very nice!
Wow, hard work pays of thanks for another great video.
Congratulations!
Wow, finally a new video. I was waiting for this.
It is always clever to remember the notes in ned Roberts Book😅
Nice presentation, love the history sewn in, thank you .
Hmm, if I remember it right it is important to fill in the amount of Blackpowder into the barrel after cleaning it and before loading the bullet. I never heared about cleaning after loading the powder.
That wasn't how these target rifles were generally loaded. Biggest thing is to clear the fouling that the bullet would hit on the way out. Since the bullet never goes back behind where the top of the charge is, there's no need to swab there. All you end up doing is pushing fouling down into the patent breech, and those are an absolute pain to unclog if you plug the fire channel (one of the reasons I still prefer a drum and bolster arrangement). If you don't use an over-powder card, you might have to use the method you mentioned, as there is no barrier stopping the wet patch from messing with the powder.
Cap, love your videos & you are truly an inspiration to me, in fact, I'm on my way to the range! Thanks again.
Nice rifle and great shooting!!
Beautiful rifle and great shooting, sir. Lucky for my bank account that such rifles are very hard to find here in the U.S.
hi friend i am a fan of your channel and also of those musket spikes i know you don't know me but i don't have money and you can't get a rarity like this here in brazil.
Hi. Have you tried paper patched projectiles? To my way of thinking, the fit of your existing grease groove projectile appears just a little on the loose side, in that it appears to slide down the bore a little too easily. If you patched with onion paper (ie the type of writing paper that was once used for writing airmail letters) you would increase the projectile 'fit' without inducing leading. Of course, you would have to make a metal (brass sheet) template to cut out the patches, and those patches must be applied to the projectile very carefully to ensure uniformity (particularly where the two ends of the patch meet), but they are well worth the effort. You can use either purpose built smooth sided paper patch projectiles or a suitably sized grease groove bullet. Both will work. Assuming we are working with a good bore to start with, a paper patched BP rifle is, in my experience, more than capable of 5 shot groups of 1.5 inches or less at 100 m. If you haven't already tried it I'd urge you to give it a go. Cheers.
If you have resistance that can't be overcome with the weight of the rammer, and maybe a finger, your bullets are getting too tight. With a greased bullet, all you'll do is induce unnecessary deformation, but with a PP bullet (in my experience), you run the risk of tearing the patching. I don't know if you lube your paper, but if you don't , they have more friction going down than a lubed paper patch or a greased bullet (I do, but I'm surprised at the number of people who don't). I have found that a total diameter of .001 to .002 inches under land diameter is usually ideal.
Great rifle and shoot'n, Bud!
Great work! Even more impressive considering the wind drift of these. If you can master this kind of shooting modern rifles will seem easy! Do you keep powder from the same lot #? Is there such a thing as match grade caps?
Oh man good shootin"! I was laughing my -ss off when you were describing the loose sight. How many times has little details (Lack of attention to)
fouled me up? To many times to count. We have a large book of numbered excuses. Great match where you get 3 Mulligans.(Screw ups).
Congrats on your win, in an international competition like that, that's quite the accomplishment.
Great shooting and rifle! Ty for sharing your experiences!!
I'm curious, is it possible to use the same types of bullets in the military match rifle as a .44 caliber cap and ball revolver?
I just discovered your channel. You have excellent content and quality. Keep up the great work. Subscribed.
Well done sir.
Really Nice Form and Tight Group I Like Your Methods of Consistencies 😀😎👍🏼
Not only once to watch each movie! Great.
Very informative video, my question is the following, what is the advantage of the paper patched bullet in longer ranges. For shooting in the winter months in Canada I will use paper patched bullets because any bullet lube will turn to concrete. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
You really do an excellent job on making these videos. I am working up a load for my Pederasoli Whitworth. It takes a lot of patience and trial and error. Working with a cylindrical soft lead bullet. Not getting very good accuracy. May have to fork out the money on a Paper Patch Hexagonal bullet to get the most of this rifle.
Though, I do have an excuse too! The trigger is horrible on these rifles. Going to spend some money to get it put in better shape.
Any advice would be helpful!!!
Fantastic Video!!!
very cool. Nice Shooting!
Well done 👍
Congratulations.
Great video.
Very good video and nice rifle :)
Congratulations, Well Shot.. Peace
Pretty good shooting, but you need to work on your excuses a little. 😃
I have to admit, I'm impressed by the accuracy. I like older guns, but not that old. When I do get a muzzle loader, I'll definitely look into those boxes.
Wonderful rifle,,love it ,,rgds Lesrobert
Very nice shooting! What was the lifespan barrel of this gun? I mean how many shots then the gun began loose accuracy. Thanos and have good time!
Thanks for sharing , really nice !
Well done!
Hey which rifle was it that had a Hexagonal shape to the outside of its barrel as opposed to a cylindrical one? I swear I've seen one before but I don't know if it was one specific model or if it was a design that encompassed a bunch of them. Either way if you could help me out, that would be great! :D
Well I guess I just need to keep working on my loads, great work :-D
beautiful.