The Confederate "Sharps" cavalry carbine - the S. C. Robinson percussion breech loading carbine
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- The Confederate manufactured Sharps percussion breech loading carbines were manufactured by S. C. Robinson in Richmond. They were illegal copies of the famous Sharps Model 1859 carbines. They are extremely rare collectors items, that's why we are happy that Pedersoli is offering their faithful reproduction to the shooters. History and modern time shooting the Capandball way!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
2:22 History of the confederate carbine
3.34 The specifications of the Pederoli S.C. Robinson carbine
7:29 Firing the carbine to 40 meters
11:16 The Confederate cartridges for breech loaders
14:03 Making the folded tail Sharps cartridge
17:14 Making linen cartridges
20:26 Firing linen cartridges
22:48 The Peersoli breech solution for sealing the gap between breech block and barrel
24:50 Making combustible envelope cartridges
27:45 Firing the carbine to 80 meters
32:21 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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The one thing I love about Confederate made guns is the use of brass in the design. It gives such a beautiful contrast to the standard bluing that you can instantly tell it apart from the Union used firearms of the time.
Looks good, but to soft for some applications. They had to use what they could get though.
Actually I think it's bronze.
@@user-hs8nx6rj6n for field pieces yes like the 12 pounder
@@user-hs8nx6rj6n most likely it is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunmetal
Fact is that if they were using any kind of melted down copper alloy they could access it could be bronze, brass, gunmetal or whatever else you like to class it as. Would make an interesting study just to see how consistent it was
Still my favorite breechloading carbine/rifle of the period. Typically I used a muzzle-loading Richmond carbine in competition, but my dad almost always used a Sharps. At least when he wasn't farting around with his Smith, Maynard or Burnside. But I would fiddle with the Sharps carbine whenever I could get my hands on the thing when off competition. I don't even want to try to venture a guess at how many little nitrated paper tubes I put together back then. Well into the thousands, if not the tens of thousands. There were a few other oddball loading methods people had come up with over the years. One I remember distinctly was a plastic tube that was loaded with the ball and charge that you would place partially into the chamber, then push in a rod with a piston that would feed the ball forward and seat it while dropping the charge into the chamber. A few people used something along the lines of that, but most people would eventually just end up back with the good old paper cartridges after a season or two. It was just so much less to have to fiddle around with in the long run.
I actually remembered the other common method. People would make a very long(Like 5 inch plus) tube out of newspaper, then fold over and staple the end of it. When loaded, the top lip of the gas check would cut off the rear of the tube. The issue with those was that the paper wouldn't always completely evacuate or burn up. So you had to peek the chamber every time prior to loading to make sure there wasn't something still burning that could cause a cook-off. Again, most people ended up back with the nitrated paper tubes since they were far more likely to be completely consumed in firing.
Thinking about it actually makes me want to go visit my parents and cast up some bullets, lol....
Wow, you didn't flinch when you had the miss-fire.
Sure sign of a crack shot.
I hunt with a 1863 Pedersoli using linen, paper, and paper tube cartridges in 54 caliber. I have found that homemade cardboard tubes are relatively easy to make and are superior hunting cartridges compared to paper, linen or even laquered linen cartridges. Not historcally correct but with accurate powder charges and no filler, they deliver accuracy equal to what i can get with any opensighted rifle -regardless of chambering. Good work on the channel.
Another great video! The misfires, while annoying, are a great tool to see if you've got any flinch reflex!
Very good video as always! I hope one day you get the chance to explore and recreate the cartridges of Samuel Johann Pauli that was so ahead of his time
I guess original Samuel Johann Pauli firearms are expensive and difficult to find but the world needs a in depth video about his works😊
My english is not good enough to understand the speach of this big lecturer easy. And i have to use subtitle.
...when we can hear the shot in the video we can read [applause]...it's great!!!
Haven't even finished watching it but giving it a like already. Each of your videos is a treat
Very informative and interesting video. You do a great job of breaking down the history and facts about historical firearms!!!
Excellent video as always. I stopped shooting the .54 calibre sharps and went to 45-70 just for convenience.
Keep up the good work 😊
I have two .54 Sharps made by IAB. One carbine and a rifle. After a ton of research we figured out what the check plate needed to seal properly without an O-ring. Now both guns function flawlessly. I got 60 rounds out of my carbine and had to stop because I ran out! The O-ring is a great solution to a modern problem but not right. Overall very nice rifle and great video as always… Learned a little bit more about making cartridges for these things!
Knowing that the Confederacy had some very dire straits issues with raw materials and that they had practically no industries before the beginning of the war between the States, we have to admit that the qualité of the confederate revolvers, rifles, carbines was rather pretty decent.
Chief-of-Ordinance Josiah Gorgas transformed the Confederate economy and they managed to build an industry from the ground-up within a few years to supply their entire armies east and west. Incredible feat which is overshadowed by the transportation/food shortage issues the CSA faced. It was getting it to armies which was a problem.
@@WestTNConfed Yeah, unfortunately for the CSA he was one man with a limited range of control. Meanwhile the rest of the country's elites didn't seem to take the war seriously - the planters insisted on planting more cotton to get rich off of until (and despite) a law banning them from doing so. They also prioritized getting European luxury goods from the blockade runners, so ships came back with worthless nonsense in their holds that could have been allocated to more guns, ammunition, supplies, etc. I guess that's good though since the war wasn't as bloody nor did the CSA have a chance to actually win.
@@JCDenton3 exactly, Ghost of Kyiv.
Great video CB I have a Pietta 54 cal calvary carbine it has the ladder type rear sight and very much like what your shooting I believe it is closer to a union copy some of these rifles had a sliding breach bushing or ring that would seal the chamber and they were prone to get stuck I believe that's what you were mentioning about the improvement to stop powder from escaping perhaps. What little I have fired mine I used the cartridge that would be cut to expose the power by tge breach block they are indeed interesting rifles and a lot of fun to shoot .Thanks for sharing your video on tge rifle and the history on it.😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Just wanted to add for cleaning solution I use 1 part hydrogen peroxide 1 part rubbing alcohol 1 part Murphys oil soap. It works great an old black powder gun maker and he made some beautiful rifles told me about this cleaning solution.
I have the Chiappa 1859 Cavalery Sharps. After a few shots I have spray the breechblock with Robla black powder solvent to open it. Accoring to the manual it schoul have a sliding chamber bushing but i never have been able to move it, not even when i bought the riflne new. Shoots great after i enlarged the diameter of the nipple to 1mm and drilled the flash channel larger.
What gorgeous rifle. Love the content. Cheers from Estonia
Immediate thumbs up for any and all CSA content. Lest we forget
As usual a very nice vid and a pleasure to watch
I have the new Pedersoli 1863 Sharps Sporting and here's my observations so far: Whatever they did to the ignition channel, it sucks. I have to boost caps with priming compound to get reliable ignition. I've finally just found some RWS caps, which hopefully will work better. Starched linen will enable you to make way more consistent cartridges. I'm using a Christmas tree ring tail bullet, but I suspect it's too heavy at 510grains. Originals were closer to 460gr. I can get a ~3" group at 100 meters, but I'm sure it can be improved. I got a new mold for a lighter bullet and just got my hands on some 1.5F swiss, which should also be better than the 2F Schuetzen I've been using.
Black Powder Cartridge has some interesting articles on shooting originals.
I really enjoy the detail of your videos as well as reproducing the bullets.
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A hell of a rifle, tell me, will you be able to make a video on the Tanegashima? It is a rifle used by samurai in the 19th century.
The Tanegashima were used between 16th and 19th century, they were copies of Portuguese matchlock muskets that wound up on Tanegashima island. The Japanese quickly realized their superiority to contemporary Chinese and Korean gunpowder weapons and produced them in mass. Some historians estimate there were more firearms in Japan in the 17th century than in all of Europe. It was used to invade Korea with great effect, with the Japanese inflicting massive defeats on Koreans and their Chinese allies, though the invasion ultimately failed due to naval defeats.
The Japanese introduced some improvements to the design but by the 19th century, at the end of the Edo isolation, they were still copies of 16th century matchlocks and were hopelessly obsolete compared to firearms of the time period.
A video might be nice, but I don't think the Tanegashima muskets were anything special or significantly different than other 16th century matchlocks.
Very interesting and informative video, thanks!
Beautiful and accurate rifle friend.
Great video, and a beautiful carbine!!
I don’t have a Sharps but for my rifle, musket and pistols, I much enjoy making paper cartridges. It is relaxing and you perfect your methods and keep improving. Your channel is Wonderful and I Thank You Kindly! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS *****
Yet another truly excellent video, as always, from capandball. At this point, we expect no less. 20:45 shows you've got your overall length of the cartridge as close to perfect as one is likely to get! One thought I had while watching this video was just how senselessly wasteful of ammunition the shooters of today's age have become (plenty of videos out there of yahoos incessantly blasting away at nothing with semi-autos); when you are crafting your own ammunition for a gun like this, you see how the men of yesteryear were necessarily more mindful of making each and every shot count! It's an interesting dichotomy too of how, with this transitional paper/linen cartridge breechloader, one must invest a good deal of time at the home loading bench in order to save time loading this gun in the field as compared to shooting a muzzleloader. Balance in all things.
Love the Chanel. Could you show us how you folded the cartridge you made at 15:25? That’s a nice looking fold.
Oh Capandbalòsh, I was just looking at that rifle yesterday. How did you know? 😂
Neat.
Cheers!
Awesome!
Beautiful gun beautiful video
Very good video
Greetings from Texas! I enjoyed this video. I love your channel and your “Hunglish”!👍🏻
О шикардос! Many thanks 🙏 ❤❤❤
Wasn't paying attention - thought number 4 was a squib - nearly had a heart attack!
Wonderful video! I love the idea of using linen cartridges. What kind of glue did you use?
This eliminated the need for a ramrod of course, but it really didn't offer enough advantages to compare with more modern repeating rifles like the Henry and Spencer. Sharps/S.C. Robinson were stopgap measures on the way to cartridge employing repeating rifles.
breech loader is preferable when mounted (or prone)
super! 👍👍👍
Hi, what is that little trick with tapping on gun for? I own a model 1859 and am still learning how to shoot it as efficiently as possible. Thank you for this video.
I believe it is to knock some powder down since he was having issues with misfires
1hell of great video 2 mega👍👍
The term “Sharpshooter” allegedly comes from the civil war, where snipers would prefer the Sharps rifle due to it’s great accuracy.
catch-all term in the CS cavalry for men firing unmounted, according Von Borcke anyway
Would the original cartridge have been 100% powder or did they use cornmeal also? Was the 1860s version of the black powder larger in volume than modern Swiss powder?
I believe that the preproductions have larger chambers than the originals had.
Bonjour, what kind of glue si used to glue ammunition.merci
Stuck breech block was a problem with my Pedersoli Sharps. I had to send it to Larry Flees to get it to shoot more than 5-10 shots before locking up. What is the date of manufacture of your Sharps? Does the chamber liner freely slide back and forth in the barrel?
I always wondered why there was never a Sharps carbine or tifle that was modified to use a Chassepot style needle rifle cartridge. A block with an inertia type "needle" should have worked very well
Looks like the Harpers Ferry carbine!
My grandpa said it was a old martini Henry
Bonjour,j,ai essayé d,écrire en anglais mais pas de réponse.je voulait juste savoir quel type de colle est utilisé pour la confection des munitions
Why didn't they combine the breech closing action to cocking the gun?
Is this where the phrase sharp shooter comes from or is it earlier? 🤔
Like I know the linnen cartrigde used with corn starche seized linnen. So the material is stiffer
How does it perform with the full 60 grain military charge?
Hi
Winchester have model Black Power version and caps percussion and have magazine caps percussion and Spencer Black Power version and percussion caps and have magazine caps percussion !!
Regards
Artur
Poland
Great video. One question though. Why use a filler and not just fill the cartridge with powder?
Maximum accuracy generally does not happen at maximum load.
@@stevensheldon9271 I know that the case for most muzzleloaders but didn't know if that's the particular reason he's doing it on this one or if it's a pressure issue
She's a SHOOTER! Some Day! I will need to make these rounds!
Thank YOU SR! I missed your Steel got Rung Giggles! Cutting ragged holes! what More could you want?
Does your repro cut your end off well? I take the Baby's Bottom slaps as a Powder adjustment similar to any other capper or stoner?
FYI I have not proven or tested yet? as a Hydro Tech I will replace my fillers with noncompressible DIY Lube to see about fouling, Cleaning, Performance? first I will fill base of my Maxie's similar as the wood plugs of old. But I need to Smoke my already rolled! FIRST!
and I sped up my paper loading via Loading LONGER fromed tubes on Copper mandrel tube of correct sizes, filling/chaging the end, cut to size after fill, slide down, repeat. I never have to handle empty papers or linnen. "Lately I Run" my projo end wild enough to cover the whole projo, drop in projo tootsie roll twist glue the end trim, lube dip go. Some I do projo 1st with my copper tube mandrel, then drop charge, I use hair paper too! found it larger and Rolled!
I need one...
Where do you live?
@@hekpacobctac616 western New york😮💨
Well, in that case I can't help you. I know a guy who sells it in EU.
@hekpacobctac616 I appreciate it my friend, all I need is another gun like a need a hole in my head. We can still buy most black powder rifles and have them shipped to your house in most counties here in New York, but gun laws are getting really tough around here.
Это лучше чем Шаспо и Дрейзе ! Если бы я был военным министром в те времена , то принял бы на вооружение винтовку работающую по этому принципу.
I have to disagree with you on that. Especially the Chassepot.
@@blueband8114Очень жаль... Значит моя пехота потерпела бы поражение...
Linen?
isn't that what they use for naval artillery?
Burns my eyes to see these cartridges 😂
just a little fooling we just do a little fooling
Bonsoir
Vous pourriez faire une vidéo de chasse avec un fusil Kentucky calibre 45 ?
I bet misfires have to be treated carefully with paper or linen cartridges, I wouldn't want to open the breech straight away until I was sure I wouldn't lose my eyebrows.
"Worked" (21:00)
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Oops! That's a 1895 rifle not 1995 lol😂
why are you petting it? it needs some encouragement to prevent misfires? it's just a shy carbine that's all 🥺
The 'poor man's Sharps'........very dull to look at, and very 'down-market', compared to this earlier version seen here from two years ago - th-cam.com/video/q89ym85TZfg/w-d-xo.html