Many thanks for your kind words, Vraddrag! The Camry Hybrid uses a Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) ... it's a little bit of engineering magic that allows the engine to stay at its most efficient RPM rate while accelerating. This saves gas and cuts down on emissions. With a CVT, you'll hear the engine hit that pitch and stay there, as the gear ratios change seamlessly ... rather then the waaaa waaaaa waaaaaa that we've all been accustomed to. we've taken a different approach to our
i have a 2008 camry hybrid,i find it really powerfull when floored,if you want more power,about 5,and better breathing,and sound,install a k&n air filter,i think it made alot of differance, i won't own a car a week without installing one when you floor it on the fwy there is no waiting for the tranny to kick down--it just flies at the upper speeds--and i average 36 mpg all the time--i love it
The GVWR is the combined weight of the car + maximum payload. A 1998 Lumina by itself (Curb weight) is 3496 lb, so workensmart is correct. The reason the Camry is heavier is NOT because of the type of metal that is used. It is because the car has several hundred pounds of batteries. Take out the batteries and the Camry has a curb weight of around 3300lbs.
@palebeachbum its not horrible for the motor, they are designed to operate best at the rpm the cvt keeps them at under heavy accel. easier on it then typical transmission types
@palebeachbum Engine's today are designed to run at high RPM's It also helps to move oil around the inside of the engine and clean out deposits of carbon. That is why cars like Honda's and Toyota's last so much longer they have clean running engines Designed to run at high RPMs.
I like the CTV transmissions for not having to shift, cause some cars are really annoying with the shift quality and constantly changing gears, but I find the CVTs annoying as hell because whenever you step on the gas a little at highway speeds to get up a slight incline or to gently pass, they wind the engine really high. It gets so noisy and tiring, beside being horrible for the motor.
@dcrews95 Since it uses an e-CVT transmission with no gear changing, B is for engine-braking mode for things like going down mountain grades so you don't have to keep stepping on the brakes. It's the equivalent of down-shifting in a manual or conventional automatic transmission.
@miguelramirez360 The design allows them to drive the wheels with any mixture of either the gas engine or the electric motors so they can maximize efficiency and performance based on which combination will work best, as well as a seamless transition between the two. It also happens to make for nearly bullet-proof mechanical reliability, fewer moving parts, and lower weight over all.
Love the LED lights the 2007-2009 version have, and the clear taillights the 2010 Toyota Camry Hybrid has. This seems to be the only reasonable looking hybrid out there right now. (I don't like they style of the Honda Civic. It looks like a minivan on the front). I might also be into the Ford Fusion, but I cannot put my trust into American cars yet. Also, how come the Honda Accord stopped making Hybrids after 2005?
@3ggt3 thats cvt...same thing used in jet-ski's and snow mobiles...it keeps on adding gearing basically. its not "1" gear...its unlimited gearing (till you get to top speed)
BTW: Why do people measure SPEEDO 0-60 when a device to PROPERLY measure acceleration costs only a COUPLE $? And in SOME cases, the difference between SPEEDO 0-60 and REAL 0-60 is UNBELIEVABLY HUGE (e.g. WHOLE SECONDS).
Well keep in mind that small engines these days rely much more on horsepower than torque. So a small engine hooked to a CVT is going to rev like crazy to make the most of its power. I'm not aware offhand of any V8 powered vehicles with a CVT, although surely there are some out there. I can't imagine if they exist they are pleasant to drive.
@palebeachbum It's not horrible for the engine. Engines are regularly tested at the factory at REDLINE revs (higher revs than the highest output/power) for a month (without interruption). But it surely is noisy. But if you like a petrol car, you don't mind that much. I understand people with turbodiesel engines dislike this a lot, because their cars run really low revs most of the time (as the torque is high very early in the rev range - hence most of the fuel consumption benefit).
There isn't any noticeable power difference with a CVT and regular automatic. When you step on the gas to pass on the highway lets say, a regular automatic might downshift, a CVT revs up without any shifting. But in my experience they rev VERY high. I'm talking well over 4,000rpm just trying to pass. Horrible.
@iRaceAllDay Most of them are, because that's the important factor in them receiving the excellent fuel economy that they get. With the CVT power is at the wheels 100% of the time, and wasted power means wasted battery/fuel.
@palebeachbum Well if you want just get a cvt with paddle shifters and virtual gears... The rpms are lower in manual mode than the actual manual version of the same model.
@occckid123 yeah, the elise is a ridiculously fun car if you have the money for it. and yea, its not the most comfortable ride. but the only reason i bring it up is because it blew away the stats you set:
@wildbloodydragon my mom's altima is a cvt, and i hate it. to the people saying there isn't a noticeable power difference, they don't know what they're talking about. she owned a 2.5 altima from 2006 with a real automatic, and i remember thinking it was quick when i drove it. now she has a 2009 altima with a cvt, and it feels slow. don't get me wrong, it's smooth while cruising (as is every car) but when you're really getting after it, it's discomforting. it feels like the clutch is slipping
@NoxNoctisUmbra Ummm not really that great if you ask me. The accord hybrid had almost 260 HP and got 38 MPG on the highway. Many people claim getting arround 45 on the hwy as well. (the fusions EPA rating is 41 mpg. And the fusion tajes arround 8.5-9 secs to 60. In the accord hybrid... Try 0-60 in 6.6. :D. Don't get me started with the camry. It's just stank. Lol
@eliwoohoo the lotus elise could have 189 hp, and could go to 60 in 4.9 seconds........Its because it ways as much as a go-kart......................This car could have more hp, but it ways more
@palebeachbum It could only be horrible for the engine, if the engine was cold or had an unrelated problem (low oil etc.). But I bet the car would know and adjust stuff accordingly.
@wildbloodydragon 270 is too much power for front wheel drive without some kind of differential or suspension modification to help cope with the power.
haha just smoked one of these in my Lumina, that weighs about 700 lbs more, not a chance taught them the important lesson not to try and pass someone with a hybrid.
@occckid123 the lotus elise has 189 hp, 0-60 time of 4.9 but i digress. you're right, its a decent speed for a commuter hybrid, and im sure its better than the prius. but its just kinda ironic watching the speedo slowly creep up in a 0-60 video. lol
i never actually timed it, but compared to my car, and compared to the previous altima's conventional automatic, it feels slower. putting my foot down in my mazda 6 at 40 mph, i can reach 80 in about 5 seconds. in the same amount of time for the altima, i can reach about 60 maybe 65. not only that, but the engine is bloody noisy with it. you need to rev it to get power, and it sounds awful. i recommend staying away from cvt's, although i've heard altima v6's work better with it than the v4.
@wildbloodydragon i've heard the v6 is better in general, although i can't see how a car with 270 bhp and front wheel drive with no special differential can be good. in real performance driving, i'm sure the car understeers and torque steers like a pig.
@NoxNoctisUmbra Uh the point being... I understand that MOST people buy hybrids for Efficiency... But my POINT IS... It is indeed one of the most fuel efficient cars.. Why do i say this ? Because it has 260 HP and It gets almost 40 MPG on the hwy... Tell me thats not unbelievable... Uhh the insight makes better efficiency numbers then prius for less the price! Same goes for fusion. Accord hybrid was the best of all 3 worlds. Efficient,Luxury,And performance ! :D tell me thats not great ?
I simply love CVTs! THey sound sooo modern and advanced! Very fit for the hybrid version. would love to drive one of these, though I love my Volvo C30.
@palebeachbum actucally cvt's are great for the engine...idk what your talking about. You must have a shitty cvt cuz in my morano the cvt is as smooth as can be and never revs up high.
hmm wasn't trying that's why he gave a little chirp when he started huh, my lumina has a 3100 sfi it's the base of base lumina's and it still smoked this piece of shit get over it.
Hybrids don't have gears do they.... Example: Verummmmm(1st Gear) Verummmmmm(2nd Gear) etc....... It didn't seem to shift in the video though which was funny and weird
@eliwoohoo lol an elise will break your spine on a crack in the road. cant get over a speed bump in the parking lot uses more gas and interior is crap and only has 2 seats is loud as hell. missing anything else? oh and cost wayy more. it is a fun car if u have money 2 throw around.
American's are behind in electronics. I bet if Japan was to create an OS, it would blow the OSX out of the water! We all know Microsoft is wack! So that may just leave Linux because it's open-source. But back to the subject, the Japanese does it WAAAAAYYYYY better than Americans! But it would be nice to see some type of OnStar-like service from Toyota-Lexus.
Many thanks for your kind words, Vraddrag!
The Camry Hybrid uses a Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) ... it's a little bit of engineering magic that allows the engine to stay at its most efficient RPM rate while accelerating. This saves gas and cuts down on emissions.
With a CVT, you'll hear the engine hit that pitch and stay there, as the gear ratios change seamlessly ... rather then the waaaa waaaaa waaaaaa that we've all been accustomed to.
we've taken a different approach to our
i have a 2008 camry hybrid,i find it really powerfull when floored,if you want more power,about 5,and better breathing,and sound,install a k&n air filter,i think it made alot of differance, i won't own a car a week without installing one
when you floor it on the fwy there is no waiting for the tranny to kick down--it just flies
at the upper speeds--and i average 36 mpg all the time--i love it
Everyone is commmenting on the CVT, but for a hybrid car this is pretty quick! That was a decent 0 - 60 mph run
CVT transmission,
no gear changes, no stopping,
you can acclerate from any speed and you wont need to be in the right gear.
7.7 seconds to 60 mph. Not bad for a hybrid :D
The GVWR is the combined weight of the car + maximum payload. A 1998 Lumina by itself (Curb weight) is 3496 lb, so workensmart is correct.
The reason the Camry is heavier is NOT because of the type of metal that is used. It is because the car has several hundred pounds of batteries. Take out the batteries and the Camry has a curb weight of around 3300lbs.
@palebeachbum its not horrible for the motor, they are designed to operate best at the rpm the cvt keeps them at under heavy accel. easier on it then typical transmission types
@palebeachbum Engine's today are designed to run at high RPM's It also helps to move oil around the inside of the engine and clean out deposits of carbon. That is why cars like Honda's and Toyota's last so much longer they have clean running engines Designed to run at high RPMs.
I like the CTV transmissions for not having to shift, cause some cars are really annoying with the shift quality and constantly changing gears, but I find the CVTs annoying as hell because whenever you step on the gas a little at highway speeds to get up a slight incline or to gently pass, they wind the engine really high. It gets so noisy and tiring, beside being horrible for the motor.
@dcrews95 Since it uses an e-CVT transmission with no gear changing, B is for engine-braking mode for things like going down mountain grades so you don't have to keep stepping on the brakes. It's the equivalent of down-shifting in a manual or conventional automatic transmission.
@miguelramirez360 The design allows them to drive the wheels with any mixture of either the gas engine or the electric motors so they can maximize efficiency and performance based on which combination will work best, as well as a seamless transition between the two. It also happens to make for nearly bullet-proof mechanical reliability, fewer moving parts, and lower weight over all.
Love the LED lights the 2007-2009 version have, and the clear taillights the 2010 Toyota Camry Hybrid has. This seems to be the only reasonable looking hybrid out there right now. (I don't like they style of the Honda Civic. It looks like a minivan on the front). I might also be into the Ford Fusion, but I cannot put my trust into American cars yet. Also, how come the Honda Accord stopped making Hybrids after 2005?
Damn I just hate CVT transmissions... But I love your reviews :-)
The C30 is one sweet little car. :)
7.3 seconds great job
@3ggt3 thats cvt...same thing used in jet-ski's and snow mobiles...it keeps on adding gearing basically. its not "1" gear...its unlimited gearing (till you get to top speed)
Where is the tachometer?
BTW: Why do people measure SPEEDO 0-60 when a device to PROPERLY measure acceleration costs only a COUPLE $? And in SOME cases, the difference between SPEEDO 0-60 and REAL 0-60 is UNBELIEVABLY HUGE (e.g. WHOLE SECONDS).
Well keep in mind that small engines these days rely much more on horsepower than torque. So a small engine hooked to a CVT is going to rev like crazy to make the most of its power. I'm not aware offhand of any V8 powered vehicles with a CVT, although surely there are some out there. I can't imagine if they exist they are pleasant to drive.
@palebeachbum It's not horrible for the engine. Engines are regularly tested at the factory at REDLINE revs (higher revs than the highest output/power) for a month (without interruption). But it surely is noisy. But if you like a petrol car, you don't mind that much. I understand people with turbodiesel engines dislike this a lot, because their cars run really low revs most of the time (as the torque is high very early in the rev range - hence most of the fuel consumption benefit).
0-60 in under 8 s. Where's the sacrifice in performance, exactly?
There isn't any noticeable power difference with a CVT and regular automatic. When you step on the gas to pass on the highway lets say, a regular automatic might downshift, a CVT revs up without any shifting. But in my experience they rev VERY high. I'm talking well over 4,000rpm just trying to pass. Horrible.
0-60: 7.6 sec
At least you got 5 MPG real time status during the 0-60 run lol
Will Toyota ever make a manual transmission hybrid?
@iRaceAllDay Most of them are, because that's the important factor in them receiving the excellent fuel economy that they get. With the CVT power is at the wheels 100% of the time, and wasted power means wasted battery/fuel.
@palebeachbum Well if you want just get a cvt with paddle shifters and virtual gears... The rpms are lower in manual mode than the actual manual version of the same model.
things wicked fast
@occckid123 yeah, the elise is a ridiculously fun car if you have the money for it. and yea, its not the most comfortable ride. but the only reason i bring it up is because it blew away the stats you set:
continuously variable transmission.
wat type of engine does your lumina has? something tells me he wasnt trying
2008 Camry,what is the engine displacement? Do you 2012 version 0-60mph video?
@wildbloodydragon my mom's altima is a cvt, and i hate it. to the people saying there isn't a noticeable power difference, they don't know what they're talking about. she owned a 2.5 altima from 2006 with a real automatic, and i remember thinking it was quick when i drove it. now she has a 2009 altima with a cvt, and it feels slow. don't get me wrong, it's smooth while cruising (as is every car) but when you're really getting after it, it's discomforting. it feels like the clutch is slipping
post a 0-120 video if your lumina and c if its quicker than the hybrid yota
That was quick!
VERY NICE 7.66 SEC TO 60 MPH.
whats the B for on the gears on the dashboard
what kind of trans does that camry have??
Holy crap, now that's embarrassing. It has a much faster time than my 4Runner.
7 miles to the gallon in a hybrid going full throttle...LOL
@NoxNoctisUmbra Ummm not really that great if you ask me. The accord hybrid had almost 260 HP and got 38 MPG on the highway. Many people claim getting arround 45 on the hwy as well. (the fusions EPA rating is 41 mpg. And the fusion tajes arround 8.5-9 secs to 60. In the accord hybrid... Try 0-60 in 6.6. :D. Don't get me started with the camry. It's just stank. Lol
no shift shock?
@eliwoohoo the lotus elise could have 189 hp, and could go to 60 in 4.9 seconds........Its because it ways as much as a go-kart......................This car could have more hp, but it ways more
tht sounds like a freakin boat.
@palebeachbum It could only be horrible for the engine, if the engine was cold or had an unrelated problem (low oil etc.). But I bet the car would know and adjust stuff accordingly.
What? It only has one gear?
@wildbloodydragon 270 is too much power for front wheel drive without some kind of differential or suspension modification to help cope with the power.
haha just smoked one of these in my Lumina, that weighs about 700 lbs more, not a chance taught them the important lesson not to try and pass someone with a hybrid.
@occckid123 the lotus elise has 189 hp, 0-60 time of 4.9
but i digress. you're right, its a decent speed for a commuter hybrid, and im sure its better than the prius. but its just kinda ironic watching the speedo slowly creep up in a 0-60 video. lol
i never actually timed it, but compared to my car, and compared to the previous altima's conventional automatic, it feels slower. putting my foot down in my mazda 6 at 40 mph, i can reach 80 in about 5 seconds. in the same amount of time for the altima, i can reach about 60 maybe 65. not only that, but the engine is bloody noisy with it. you need to rev it to get power, and it sounds awful. i recommend staying away from cvt's, although i've heard altima v6's work better with it than the v4.
Pretty quick for a hybrid. Even though your only getting 5 MPG...
are all hybrids CVT?
Cvt?
Its probably a CVT Transmission
@wildbloodydragon i've heard the v6 is better in general, although i can't see how a car with 270 bhp and front wheel drive with no special differential can be good. in real performance driving, i'm sure the car understeers and torque steers like a pig.
@NoxNoctisUmbra Uh the point being... I understand that MOST people buy hybrids for Efficiency... But my POINT IS... It is indeed one of the most fuel efficient cars.. Why do i say this ? Because it has 260 HP and It gets almost 40 MPG on the hwy... Tell me thats not unbelievable... Uhh the insight makes better efficiency numbers then prius for less the price! Same goes for fusion.
Accord hybrid was the best of all 3 worlds. Efficient,Luxury,And performance ! :D tell me thats not great ?
I simply love CVTs! THey sound sooo modern and advanced! Very fit for the hybrid version.
would love to drive one of these, though I love my Volvo C30.
Ok
yay for having one gear
@palebeachbum high revolutions really aren't bad for the motor.
probly cvt i think
Holy hell that's not bad...
@palebeachbum lexus ls has a v8
@TheLoyale That's what I thought, the first time I heard a cvt.
@JeffyOwns Uhh... Just wanna let you know that about half of them do ! :D
@eliwoohoo slowest ever? it has less than 200 hp and gets to 60 in less than 8 seconds. slow? whats not the slowest 0-60 lol?
@sirmasterpimp carmeys are awesome
Yeah i fucked up, the Lumina is about 3500lbs. Still doesn't change anything about how shitty toyota's are.
yea i agree with the ride, it cam get rough nd i hate it cause i thought something was wrong with the car itself nd its not
0-100 kph (0-62 mph)
8 sec. (0:04 - 0:12 )
@palebeachbum actucally cvt's are great for the engine...idk what your talking about. You must have a shitty cvt cuz in my morano the cvt is as smooth as can be and never revs up high.
hmm wasn't trying that's why he gave a little chirp when he started huh, my lumina has a 3100 sfi it's the base of base lumina's and it still smoked this piece of shit get over it.
Indeed, it is. But I love japanese american-way cars... like Carmy, Accord, Altimas, Infinitis and Lexus...
:D
Hybrids don't have gears do they.... Example: Verummmmm(1st Gear) Verummmmmm(2nd Gear) etc....... It didn't seem to shift in the video though which was funny and weird
@palebeachbum or you could do what most people who can drive do, and learn how to drive manual...
@eliwoohoo lol an elise will break your spine on a crack in the road. cant get over a speed bump in the parking lot uses more gas and interior is crap and only has 2 seats is loud as hell. missing anything else? oh and cost wayy more. it is a fun car if u have money 2 throw around.
@Turkeysitar That is whats UP :)
cvt haha. no gearsets but rather an unlimited amount of gear ratios
@rashaddancer that''s whut I was going TO say
@eliwoohoo lol prius is much more slower.....
7sec 73
lmfao it works on batteries o.0 IDK
Great car if you can get past the kitchen blender roar of the 4 cylinder engine
Sounds better then the altima cvt transmission wish sounds like a sewing machine.
+Dan Hans It's not really too bad
American's are behind in electronics. I bet if Japan was to create an OS, it would blow the OSX out of the water! We all know Microsoft is wack! So that may just leave Linux because it's open-source. But back to the subject, the Japanese does it WAAAAAYYYYY better than Americans! But it would be nice to see some type of OnStar-like service from Toyota-Lexus.
who would do this to a hybrid hybrids suck!
could be worst :P
WTF is with that? It doesn't shift very offen Lol.. Sounded like 1st gear to me.
Accord hybrid = :)
This = Shit
That"s wake THE Fusion Hybrid is much faster..... And more fuel efficient
Even if that were true it's still a Ford with all of the quality control and reliability issues that go along with it.
tahoe hybrid is better. but i will take my 403 hp 6.2 liter. non gay ass hybrid.
Rlnthndr how does a car define ones sexuality? Tahoe’s are soccer mom cars it doesn’t make you anymore masculine