I love Toyota but I will say that the company and the dealers make it very difficult. If this new generation of trucks does not meet the reliability standard of previous generations its hard to see why anyone would put up with them.
They wont be reliable as the old. They are going to a full direct injection instead of port injection. PI helps them meet emission regulations and MPG but is absolutely horrible on your engine. Other manufacturers who already swapped to 4 cylinder turbos are seeing the problems with this. Honda warranty stops at 30k miles on the injectors specifically because that's when they started to see them fail. I think Ford injectors are in that 35-50k range. (dont quote me) Im telling yall now, do not use cheap gas with these 4 cylinders. The carbon build up is absolutely insane and we see cars constantly around that 40k mile mark needing their engines walnut blasted. Dont take my word for it, just google direct injection maintenance and read. or ask any car mechanic...
The 6th gen 4Runner is already more than 3 years behind its planned rollout. It's the first time Toyota has ever missed a deadline on a new model. I'm way past ready to trade up from my 2004 4Runner. If Toyota doesn't hurry up, I'll get an Explorer ST.
I love the look of the new 4Runner and Tacoma but I will not pay these prices for midsize vehicles so I'm basically boycotting all Toyota and Lexus products until they stop keeping production artificially low.
@@iskdude9922in 2023. But 2024 1st quarter saw their entire business drop 28% And the new Tacoma isn’t selling. Tacoma sales are down 60% from last year. No one trusts a 4 cylinder mid size truck. And the fact the tundra has been a nightmare since 2022…. Toyota has big problems
@@1eyedwilli3 nope. Toyota had best march sales ever... and had best first quarter ever in north america. I meant to say 2024. They had best yr ever in 23... theyre on track to sell 11 million vehicles in 24. Its a new model and they had to change stuff in the plant so its normal to have a low sales on launch of a new model but you could be right in that not as many people trust the new taco just like the new tundra. Although personally i think the new taco they did a good job with. The new tundra im not so sure about.
Over $60k for a 4 cylinder turbo is insane. And unfortunately these dumb azz TH-camr are going to hype this thing over imagine to the point dealers will add about $20k markups to an already over priced vehicle. Furthermore keeping this artificial economy a float. I miss the late 90’s early 20’s when people had more common sense and was more financially responsible than they are today.
I see Ford Raptors on dealer lots priced at $80K plus a $10K+ market adjustment. The worst part is that idiots are lining up to buy them at that price.
@@twigmastayou should have voted with your dollars and not bought it. Buying an overpriced turd and blaming the government is not very helpful in this fight.
@dpatrick813 no matter how overpriced, I just rolled over 70k and could sell it for what I payed for it. thanks to bidan 😆🤣😂. I paid cash so no interest. So to have got it at 43k in 2018, just before covid and market crash means it was a smart buy considering its now 60k for the same trim, and a bunch of useless electronics attatched. As far as it being a turd, that tells me you own a broke down jeep. 😆 🤣 😂
Thankful to be driving a 5th gen that I bought new for $3K under MSRP a year ago. Not a single issue in 12K miles thus far. Time will tell how these little 4-bangers with turbos hold up. The 3rd gen Tundra's subpar quality has been a real black mark on Toyota the past three years.
agree....the better mpg's on the 4 bangers doesn't matter when they start to break and your spending $1,500 - $3,000 to fix them....which then becomes a wash on paying for extra gas with the 4.0 V6 which is basically maintenance free.
The new 4Runner looks great. Toyota typically has been about evolution, not revolution. Too bad there was no tried and true naturally aspirated v6. I am Not a believer in the longevity of turbo charging.All this is academic as the price of vehicles today is far above what I am willing to pay. With an average of a 30-40 percent price increase since 2018 and dealer markups, I will drive my 2018 TRD/off-road premium till the wheels fall off.
Over-Priced. You can get a 2021+ Chevy 1500 RST 4x4 V8 with less than 10k miles for 45-50k. Meanwhile, a 2.4cyl turbo SR5 with BASIC interior costs you 50-52K? Again... its a 4CYL. What are you going to tow if you needed to. For the Money, Toyota dealerships are ripping people off. If youre diehard Tacoma/4runner Fan, wait a year or two before dumping your hard earned money from a tanking Bidenomics economy.
Has the same tow capacity, higher torque lower in the rpm band. And has and 8 speed transmission which is way smoother for towing. My portfolio has also been loving bidennomics
@@walawala-fo7dshas it been real world tested or are you just regurgitating nonsense from Toyota, because none of us has😂 Damn Americans have become such sheep for corporations.
I bought a 2020 4Runner Limited brand new and it was terrible. I went with Toyota because of everyone telling me they were high quality, and sadly mine was not. I had the entire radar system replaced on the warranty twice, and it still threw me a radar error every couple of miles. I eventually gave up on trying, and traded it in for a 2024 Honda CR-V Sport Touring, and it's been much better.
What people aren't realizing.. is that a high end 4Runner will be the price range of the low end Land Cruiser.. I wouldn't say they are in the same range, personally.. The High end Tacoma is higher than the low end Tundra.
@daveinmspThe TRD Pro and Trail Hunter Tacomas are mid $60k. The TRD Pro and Trail Hunter 4Runners are going to be every bit as expensive as a Land Cruiser if not more.
Big problem for me on this new 4 runner 1. Turbos are pricey to repair, and fast to fail. 2. 5000+ lbs being hauled with a 4cyl engine that's gonna struggle up hills ( anyone taking these into the mountains?) 3. computer screens for odometres, glitches, and repairs on screens are very pricey. 4. Hybrids are amazing for up to 8 years, replacing them is 8-15k depending on labour. 8k for a prius 5. many electronic controls now 5th gen was old school and easy to repair
1) Hilux turbos by yamaha, the same used here, are bullet proof and tried. 2) this engine has more torque and 8 speeds. It will outperform the weak anemic v6. 3) solid state electrical will outlive the mechanical. 4) battery has a 10 year warranty and it is Nimh not lipo. 5) 5th Gen has electronics too. It is not an fj from the 79s😂
Toyota has been building turbo engines for decades. It will be fine. The new 4cylinder produces way more torque and horsepower access all ranges when compared to the V6 so it will have no problem moving heavy loads
Toyota benefits nothing from keeping the supply low. They sell the cars to the dealers at the same price, whether it’s low or not. It’s the dealers that make money from markups. Toyota benefits way more if they sell a lot more cars. The truth is that the demand for new Toyotas significantly outweigh their current production speed.
Good luck with that over stressed 4cyl turbo. I have 1996 4Runner, bought new, 275,000 miles and a 2024 trd off road, just purchased. I have all the dependable vehicles I need for the rest of my life
This isn't a Toyota problem. This is literally how they sell cars now. When a refreshed or new car is made, they flood the market with the low end trim levels. They slowly release a limited number of the mid tier and even less of the high end trim levels. Dealers and Toyota make a killing off the people who just can't wait. Then later they start to increase their production of the other trim levels and mark those up to because now everyone thinks they are "rare". Going in to 2025 everything will magically go back to normal except for 80% of the new buyers will upside down on their loan. Ford does this. Chevy does this. Honda and Dodge is one of the worst. and now Toyota is doing it. I beg people to not fall for this tactic and be upside down 10 grand in to a truck.
yes, toyota has a problem. They have intentionally held back production numbers to artificially keep prices higher. All manufacturers are following suit. We used to call that practice "price fixing" and it used to be illegal.
We have a TRD pro and love it. It is thirsty and the transmission makes it a pain in the mountains, but reliable. So some of the changes might be good. I’ll be interested to see the long term reviews on reliability. I assume that MTS and crawl has been improved. Also interested how easy it will be modify with the aftermarket. Will it take a winch, 33” tires or larger, etc,…
I’m right there with you.. I fell in love with the TRD color MUD and been looking forward to the 6 gen for awhile since my 2016 4Runner kicked the bucket.
People seem to have a lot of money to buy these cars, dealers love it, manufacture loves it. Even such low inventory from Toyota, they should add 20k-50k markup to all the existing ones and make themselves a luxury premium brand.
@@Jojo-ni2cg ok but people cried about the V6 being too small, underpowered and how it was going to break down because of the "stress". goes to show, people in comments are not engine designers for a reason.
@@walawala-fo7ds Do your research ,many problems in all areas with the new tundra to include the engine-the tacoma and soon to be 4runner are all ready having quality issues.the new models use cheaper materials and cost more money its sad
I don't like the new style of the 4Runner it's not terrible, but it doesn't look better than the older version, in my opinion. Plus, it's going to be way too expensive. I'd rather have a Land Cruiser if I'm going to pay that much.
I’d buy one tomorrow if I could get a hybrid model for under 45k. The hybrid isn’t available on the cheapest trims though, so the cheapest hybrid will probably be 55k or more, and I am NOT paying that much for a vehicle that still is a joke regarding fuel economy.
That’s funny cos after with Jr to the turbo 4, the Highlander sales still increased. The turbo 4 makes the car easier to drive. You don’t have to rev it as much cos you get 317lb-ft of torque at an incredible low 1400rpm. Compared to the V6 that only have you 265lb-ft of torque at 4500rpm
I'm a longtime Toyota fan. 1976 Hilux Longbed, 1982 Celica GT-S, 1988 Xtra Cab 4x4 SR5 P/U, 1992 4Runner 4WD SR5, 1996 4Runner 4WD Limited, 2001 Tundra 4WD AC Limited, 1993 Landcruiser (still have), 2003 Tundra 2WD SR5, Currently 2006 Tundra 4WD AC Limited. I love the new Tacoma and 4Runner, The 3rd Gen Tundra, not so much. My biggest concern with these latest generation Toyotas is long term reliability and expense to repair them. Unfortunately they're mostly too expensive for me to buy one now.
It's OK in looks department. However everything else (including price) just screams "those fat stupid 'murikans will buy anything". Maybe it's just me, as I am not into "offroading". But for $60K I could build an offroader from scratch on pretty much any body on frame platform. And with all top shelf parts as well. And that including the donor truck and either crate engine or a rebuild. Because face it, you'll dump $20-30K in aftermarket crap onto it anyway.
Toyota can't come out with new trucks and they have delays. Meanwhile their profits for the last quarter are up 80%. Imagine how profitable they would be when all these new models and trims finally come out and are ready for sale. I drive a 2022 4 Runner Trail Edition in Army Green and am a stockholder for Toyota (TM). Best automobile OEM by far.
Toyota lost me as a customer with their delays in getting Cross Hybrids (and Prius Prime for my friend) to the dealers. Then, the dealers sell at MSRP and pad the OTD price with ridiculous add-ons that nobody wants. Bye Toyota. Yes, I CAN QUIT you!!!!!!!!
Delays?!? Supply and demand. Besides, if Zillow says your house is worth 800k and the state thinks it’s REALLY worth 400k, should I pay Your Price?!? Think about that, enjoy your KIA!
It’s not like they purposely created delays. Supply and demand exists. Right now the Corolla cross, Prius Prime are incredibly sought after, and they are also global products as well so inventory is limited cos demand outweighs supply
@@alwaysiyi272 But they have plenty of unsold Tundras, so they are not building enough of the hybrids that are in demand. Besides, the local dealers adding to the MSRP is what really pissed me off! They won't even discount 10%; so I'm getting a KIA PHEV.
Sure it looks great, interior is spot on. Powertrain? Not a chance. The 5th gen will last 300k, probably more. These 4cyl turbos on steep incline trails at high altitude will burn up. Never buying another new 4Runner again.
Any model enthusiast will always expect a new generation to surpass the current generation, however in the case of the 6th generation of 4 Runner, there is a general opinion that: We do not understand why produce a Tacoma model with a closed cabin (wagon model). ) with a lower engine (although they say that it generates more horsepower, since that number is the combination of the electric motor that, in addition to adding extra weight, only works for 20 miles).Better call the Tacoma sport wagon model, and not create a direct competition between Land Cruiser 250 and 4runner 6th gen.
Aubrey, the best news is that 4Runner will continue to be built in Tahara, Japan and not Mexico like the Taco. I see pricing about the same as the fifth generation since the cost of the Land Cruiser came down. I will continue to be bulletproof and the 4Runner remains one of the few body-on-frame SUVs. Like you, I am waiting for our new Gen6.
Don't EVER buy a first year model unless you like being a beta tester. There are so many problems with ALL the new models (Tundras and Tacomas) The new LCs and GXs haven't dropped en masse yet. So we'll see what happens there. Long term reliability is seriously in question. I'm hoping the manufacturing process in Texas and Mexico get their shit together and start working out the kinks. New Tundra engines are dying on the road (literally) and Tacomas have their own issues. Although the 4Runner is being built in Japan, let the first year issues get worked out.
Thanks for the video. I'm on 2 waiting lists, but don't have my hopes up too much: Lexus GX550 OverTrail and Toyota '25 4Runner TRDPro. I moved from waiting lists for the Toyota Sequoia TRDPro and LandCruiser. No decision as to the GX550 or 4Runner, if they ever arrive and I get a call from the waiting lists. I only hope I've got enough money if/when the time comes.
I wish I had gotten a 1996 4Runner 4x4 4-cylinder 5-spd instead of my 1996 Accord LX 5-spd. I also like the 6th Gen 4Runner. I don’t need the longevity of the 5th Gen and older as I have a 3rd Gen Tacoma ACLB. I am debating which one of the 3 to get (T4R/LC250/GX550).
I’m shopping for a new RAV4. From my research, Toyota has been catching up, BUT demand is high. They caught RAV4 production up drastically, but, people are buying them like hotcakes. Also, Toyota takes their time to get their products to the showroom. I’m not a Toyota fanboy as this sounds, I come from a GM employee family and own a Camaro.
It has been well documented that Toyota is intentionally not ramping up production in order to keep inventory levels low in order to keep the price high. Same with Honda.
I think the pricing makes sense mostly. The cars don’t look the same. One looks much sleeker and comes with features that would make the 4Runner the same price anyway. I think these are two different buyers for sure.
The manufacturers don't really benefit from low supply, with the exception of not having to offer any incentives. The real beneficiary of low supply is the dealership, however the dealerships may prefer to find the balance between selling more units at a slightly lower price so as to increase their total number of customers for service and parts business in the future. So to say that the manufacturer and dealerships are purposely keeping supply low is not 100 percent accurate in my opinion. Having been in the car biz for 25 years or so, we always wanted good inventory of cars that don't sit on the lot, yes we did like high margins on some models but if we only got a few of those models every month it didn't help as much as having more inventory of vehicles that people want to buy.
Land Cruiser will be at or below MSRP, 4Runner will 10k over, because it looks much better. Same chassis, same factory. Tacoma is nice too, but made in Mexico.
Land Cruiser is not a nicer 4Runner and that’s not my opinion. 4R in an inclosed Tacoma that shares parts with some Land Cruiser family SUV. The streamlining of the Toyota line up however does make them seem very similar but it more than just semantics
The TRD Pro and Trail Hunter Tacomas are mid-sixties. I would expect the 4Runner, at least the TRD Pro and Trail Hunter to be every bit as expensive as the Land Cruiser maybe even more so.
...and still can't afford it. Taco TRD Pro I-force Max $80,000 OTD. Yeah i'm sure most people can't afford that. Even the SR5 or TRD Sport the premium package will cost $8000 with dealer add-ons on top of the base MSRP. PASS!
I waited 4 years for the 4Runner this will be my first new car I could care less I wanted this I held out not getting the old 2009-2024 4Runner it’s not modern enough for me especially for my first brand new car. So I am excited I just know I am going to have to fight to get this 2025 4Runner Trd off road premium and don’t want to get overcharged.
I don't think Toyota care if the LC and 4Runner are similar, the LC was never sold in large numbers in the US anyway (Australia buys 5 to 6 times more LC's than the US with only 1/14th the population). They are most likely just giving customers what they want as its not hard to do when they are already shipping the twin Lexus to the states anyway. The LC 250 the US is getting is really the 4runner of places like Australia and SA that don't get them (called Prado). Im Australian living in the states at the moment and I only wish we got the 4Runner back home.
They are not trying to sale TRD pro or trail hunter. They want to sale tacoma truck at lower trim level for higher cost for example charging you 50k for base model vehicles. They up charge you just to up charge with you getting less and paying more for base models same with ford
Artificial scarcity is rampant in the car industry now and the only way to stop it is to not give any of these companies your money. Last year I was looking for a sports sedan in the $60-70K range and any car with true value was upcharged regardless of manufacturer. Audi RS3 was my first pick and they wanted $20K over sticker and a 5 month wait bringing it to the price of an Aston Martin or loaded C8 Vette and other "semi-super cars". Instead, they tried to sell me a ton of loaded S3's that were over priced for the performance you got. Every Audi dealer had tons of those. You mean to tell me that Audi can make A3's and S3's but somehow they can't get materials for RS3's? Bull crap. I went across the street to MB and looked at the CLA45S AMG, Apparently they made 25 of them for the 2024 model- 25 for the entire country. They were happy trying to sell me a CLA35 for the same price, though. Any truly valuable car, meaning something worth the money you pay for it- is not available unless you pay more than it is worth. ALL COMPANIES ARE DOING THIS NOW! My solution was going to the same Mercedes dealer my parents go to for over 30 years and purchase their CLA35 demo at their dead cost. 3K miles on it and $20K below sticker. MB got no money from me, the dealer I like did. I got a car well below my price range and didn't take part in the nonsense. Try to buy a Nissan Z, GR Corolla or 86, Bronco, Vette or even a Supra and you will get the same, poor business practices. They make millions of undesirable cars to shove down our throats but make 25 of the cars we all want for the entire country. This is how industries give you less product for more money over time, it's madness and we need to fix it with our wallets by not participating. Wait a year, that car you want will have a few miles on it and cost less.
Toyota's (Honda, Nissan, Subaru, Yamaha, Suzuki, Mitsubishi) are said to be old (17c-19c) covert Korean/Chinese clan's company, therefore their aim is to take over Japan/America.
If the lates runner runs and behaves like the Tacoma, here is my review of the Tacoma: New 4cyl turbo motors in the trucks, as well as 6cyl turbo, are junk. Overall Feel is cheap. Do not like how it drives, accelerates, cheap plasticky interior, gigantic and useless screen. Overall it is 🤢 🤮… Not worth the money. Go buy the latest 4L and ignore the latest junk…
It's not a bad looker, being outside the US it is weird to see TRD badging on anything in 2024, it's kind of a blast from the past. Toyota USA shoots itself on the foot by being such a unique outlier. I suspect if they made less models world wide they could do better in terms of inventory. I don't understand why Fortuner and 4Runner cannot be unified, the same applies for Tacome and HiLux. The can have different trim levels, different engines even, even a different nameplate! But right now they have the 4Runner, Land Cruiser Prado, and Fortuner three SUVs roughly the same size. Same when it comes to pickups, they have the HiLux, the Tacoma, and the HiLux Champ. Theree mid-size trucks. When it comes to small cars they have the Corolla, the Prius, and the Vios. Again roughly the same size. I tend to think they should unify, and simplify their offerings.
No thanks. Toyota has lost its way and has destroyed their reputation by putting in smaller engines with turbos across their entire product lines, which will both reduce reliability and longevity while increasing problems and cost. Turbo charged Tundra, Tacoma, and Sequoia engines are detonating at less than 10k miles. Previous generation Toyota engines would regularly go 300k without issues. Looks like I'll keep my 2008 4Runner with 162k miles that hasn't had ONE problem, because I'm confident that it will still outlast the turbo'd motors in today's Toyota POS's. Wake up Toyota. Fire your CEO and go back to producing quality products if it's not too late.
Toyota might be bumming out potential buyers but they top the list currently of top selling cars in U.S. It’s fellow carmakers are sitting on tons of inventory going over 300 days sitting on lots. Toyota (production) is being smart to put out new vehicles slower, I think. I’m personally not in the market as I have a new 5th gen 4R but Toyota gets new vehicles to fill my local lots and they still sell. Dealers adding mark ups is not cool. But buyers paying those prices will continue to be the problem. I don’t believe Toyota has a volume problem I think if more auto makers followed Toyota the car market would possibly be in a better place. My .02.
I’m upset with the 4runner. my issue is the 3rd row option for they hybrid motor. Thay need to design a 3 row that works with the hybrid. Also i’m not that fond of a 4 cylinder powering it in the first place. Why overload a turbo 4cylinder engine to push this thing around. Gas mileage better be close to 30mpg for this big move to a turbo 4. The limited model seems degraded knowing mostly families buy a limited so the 3 option needs to be there with the hybrid motor option. Other than the engine and the 3 row option i think they did a good job. Let’s just hope the price isn’t the killer of it all. I’ve always been a 4runner buyer but this might push me to getting the Lexus 550 instead. I’ll give it 4 years to work out all the bugs of the new style then make my decision
The engine isn't overloaded. It produces more power more efficiently and has an 8 speed transmission on top of more power lower in the rpm band. It is the v6 with the 5 speed that was overloaded 😂 the gear hunting of the v6 and the meme that it was always towing proved the engine was simply too weak for the job
They like to use old, proven technology. I have a 2004 4Runner, and it doesn't have a backup camera, blind spot warning, adaptive cruise, lane keeping, park assist, cross traffic alert, Toyota Safety Sense, satellite radio/MP4 infotainment, hands-free Bluetooth, wireless phone charger or heated seats. However, it does have a 4.7-liter V8 and has not had any mechanical problems for that past 20 years and 200K miles.
More expensive than the Tacoma...well, Toyota can go screw. I fall into the category of people who can afford to pay for a new vehicle but am not stupid enough to pay their absurd MSRP. MSRPs need to come back down to earth.
Informative and factual points. Rolex does the same with certain stainless steel watches Daytona & Subs, limit production heightens desire. Even though she has ultra liberal views , Tik Tox videos of a few years back irritated me she does nail the topics related to vehicles. 😂😂😂
I cannot take anyone's advice serriously that bought a Tesla.. how's that resale value working out for ya??? when the new ones are cheaper than the resale value of the old ones.???
Heck yeah!! Get that big tire 4x4 that’ll never see more than a gravel road if at all. Truck buyers are sucking up all the gas, and destroying the roads to look cool …psyop!! How did we ever survive without giant P/Us and SUVs..oh yeah I forgot about buying the 50 gallon drums of mayonnaise at the clubs.
I love Toyota but I will say that the company and the dealers make it very difficult. If this new generation of trucks does not meet the reliability standard of previous generations its hard to see why anyone would put up with them.
If customers would do all their maintenance I think Toyota’s name will survive.
Agree!
Yeah a Toyota can go 150,000-200,000 or it can go 400,000k miles and it’s all on maintenance
They wont be reliable as the old. They are going to a full direct injection instead of port injection. PI helps them meet emission regulations and MPG but is absolutely horrible on your engine. Other manufacturers who already swapped to 4 cylinder turbos are seeing the problems with this. Honda warranty stops at 30k miles on the injectors specifically because that's when they started to see them fail. I think Ford injectors are in that 35-50k range. (dont quote me) Im telling yall now, do not use cheap gas with these 4 cylinders. The carbon build up is absolutely insane and we see cars constantly around that 40k mile mark needing their engines walnut blasted. Dont take my word for it, just google direct injection maintenance and read. or ask any car mechanic...
Dealers have been begging to be canceled for years. Toyota should sell new cars directly to consumers
Honestly, I’d rather Toyota take time to get cars to showrooms. We buy Toyota for quality not quantity.
Exactly!
Toyota quality has gone down on all of their new models
@@Jojo-ni2cg they still better than the rest, lol.
The 6th gen 4Runner is already more than 3 years behind its planned rollout. It's the first time Toyota has ever missed a deadline on a new model. I'm way past ready to trade up from my 2004 4Runner. If Toyota doesn't hurry up, I'll get an Explorer ST.
I love the look of the new 4Runner and Tacoma but I will not pay these prices for midsize vehicles so I'm basically boycotting all Toyota and Lexus products until they stop keeping production artificially low.
They just had double digit growth 1st quarter and 23 was their best yr ever with over 11 million cars sold
@@iskdude9922in 2023.
But 2024 1st quarter saw their entire business drop 28%
And the new Tacoma isn’t selling.
Tacoma sales are down 60% from last year.
No one trusts a 4 cylinder mid size truck.
And the fact the tundra has been a nightmare since 2022….
Toyota has big problems
@@1eyedwilli3 nope. Toyota had best march sales ever... and had best first quarter ever in north america. I meant to say 2024. They had best yr ever in 23... theyre on track to sell 11 million vehicles in 24.
Its a new model and they had to change stuff in the plant so its normal to have a low sales on launch of a new model but you could be right in that not as many people trust the new taco just like the new tundra. Although personally i think the new taco they did a good job with. The new tundra im not so sure about.
Over $60k for a 4 cylinder turbo is insane. And unfortunately these dumb azz TH-camr are going to hype this thing over imagine to the point dealers will add about $20k markups to an already over priced vehicle. Furthermore keeping this artificial economy a float. I miss the late 90’s early 20’s when people had more common sense and was more financially responsible than they are today.
I see Ford Raptors on dealer lots priced at $80K plus a $10K+ market adjustment. The worst part is that idiots are lining up to buy them at that price.
I paid 43k for my 2018 TRD pro 4 runner. 30% inflation for 2 less cylinders. Bidanomics😅😅😅
@@twigmastayou should have voted with your dollars and not bought it. Buying an overpriced turd and blaming the government is not very helpful in this fight.
@@zzanatos2001Most of those people have brain worms 🧠🪱
@dpatrick813 no matter how overpriced, I just rolled over 70k and could sell it for what I payed for it. thanks to bidan 😆🤣😂. I paid cash so no interest. So to have got it at 43k in 2018, just before covid and market crash means it was a smart buy considering its now 60k for the same trim, and a bunch of useless electronics attatched.
As far as it being a turd, that tells me you own a broke down jeep. 😆 🤣 😂
Thankful to be driving a 5th gen that I bought new for $3K under MSRP a year ago. Not a single issue in 12K miles thus far. Time will tell how these little 4-bangers with turbos hold up. The 3rd gen Tundra's subpar quality has been a real black mark on Toyota the past three years.
agree....the better mpg's on the 4 bangers doesn't matter when they start to break and your spending $1,500 - $3,000 to fix them....which then becomes a wash on paying for extra gas with the 4.0 V6 which is basically maintenance free.
They won’t hold up. It’s just the facts, these Mickey Mouse engines will be put under a lot of pressure and will eventually ..💥
The new 4Runner looks great. Toyota typically has been about evolution, not revolution. Too bad there was no tried and true naturally aspirated v6. I am Not a believer in the longevity of turbo charging.All this is academic as the price of vehicles today is far above what I am willing to pay. With an average of a 30-40 percent price increase since 2018 and dealer markups, I will drive my 2018 TRD/off-road premium till the wheels fall off.
The dollar has lost at least 25% of its value alone during bidens tenure.
Turns out insane government spending causes inflation.
Over-Priced. You can get a 2021+ Chevy 1500 RST 4x4 V8 with less than 10k miles for 45-50k. Meanwhile, a 2.4cyl turbo SR5 with BASIC interior costs you 50-52K? Again... its a 4CYL. What are you going to tow if you needed to. For the Money, Toyota dealerships are ripping people off. If youre diehard Tacoma/4runner Fan, wait a year or two before dumping your hard earned money from a tanking Bidenomics economy.
Has the same tow capacity, higher torque lower in the rpm band. And has and 8 speed transmission which is way smoother for towing. My portfolio has also been loving bidennomics
@@walawala-fo7dshas it been real world tested or are you just regurgitating nonsense from Toyota, because none of us has😂 Damn Americans have become such sheep for corporations.
Because chevy is garbage.
in the 70s/80s, a toyota/honda was like 1/5 the price of an American vehicle. now they're so expensive, it's cheaper to just buy a new Cadillac.
@@connor_flaniganCadillacs are really nice new. But how many 20 yr old escalades do you see on the road vs 20 yr old 4runners?
I bought a 2020 4Runner Limited brand new and it was terrible. I went with Toyota because of everyone telling me they were high quality, and sadly mine was not. I had the entire radar system replaced on the warranty twice, and it still threw me a radar error every couple of miles. I eventually gave up on trying, and traded it in for a 2024 Honda CR-V Sport Touring, and it's been much better.
I own a 2023 4runner that i purchased new and never had any issues
My ‘98 4 Runner AC was not cooling well. I had the coolant drained and refilled. It works good as new.
What people aren't realizing.. is that a high end 4Runner will be the price range of the low end Land Cruiser.. I wouldn't say they are in the same range, personally.. The High end Tacoma is higher than the low end Tundra.
@daveinmspThe TRD Pro and Trail Hunter Tacomas are mid $60k. The TRD Pro and Trail Hunter 4Runners are going to be every bit as expensive as a Land Cruiser if not more.
They have covered the whole market, they want to compete against themselves. Lexus GX, Land Cruiser and 4Runner, brilliant move.
Big problem for me on this new 4 runner
1. Turbos are pricey to repair, and fast to fail.
2. 5000+ lbs being hauled with a 4cyl engine that's gonna struggle up hills ( anyone taking these into the mountains?)
3. computer screens for odometres, glitches, and repairs on screens are very pricey.
4. Hybrids are amazing for up to 8 years, replacing them is 8-15k depending on labour. 8k for a prius
5. many electronic controls now 5th gen was old school and easy to repair
1) Hilux turbos by yamaha, the same used here, are bullet proof and tried.
2) this engine has more torque and 8 speeds. It will outperform the weak anemic v6.
3) solid state electrical will outlive the mechanical.
4) battery has a 10 year warranty and it is Nimh not lipo.
5) 5th Gen has electronics too. It is not an fj from the 79s😂
Toyota has been building turbo engines for decades. It will be fine.
The new 4cylinder produces way more torque and horsepower access all ranges when compared to the V6 so it will have no problem moving heavy loads
Inventory isn’t bogged down they are just keeping supply low so they can still charge more
I second that
Not true, the output is still there, proof is in the sales figures. Toyota is at max capacity, customers are still growing.
@@cvillaviray False. Toyota keeps production low to sell higher. They've been doing it since covid
@@cvillaviraymax capacity doesn't mean anything. They are intentionally creating artificial scarcity by keeping capacity low
Toyota benefits nothing from keeping the supply low. They sell the cars to the dealers at the same price, whether it’s low or not. It’s the dealers that make money from markups. Toyota benefits way more if they sell a lot more cars. The truth is that the demand for new Toyotas significantly outweigh their current production speed.
I'm at 270k on my 2007 and have the same summer AC issues here in Texas.
Good luck with that over stressed 4cyl turbo. I have 1996 4Runner, bought new, 275,000 miles and a 2024 trd off road, just purchased. I have all the dependable vehicles I need for the rest of my life
This isn't a Toyota problem. This is literally how they sell cars now. When a refreshed or new car is made, they flood the market with the low end trim levels. They slowly release a limited number of the mid tier and even less of the high end trim levels. Dealers and Toyota make a killing off the people who just can't wait. Then later they start to increase their production of the other trim levels and mark those up to because now everyone thinks they are "rare". Going in to 2025 everything will magically go back to normal except for 80% of the new buyers will upside down on their loan. Ford does this. Chevy does this. Honda and Dodge is one of the worst. and now Toyota is doing it. I beg people to not fall for this tactic and be upside down 10 grand in to a truck.
I agree with your model and color preferences, along with your concerns about availability and dealer markups.
It's good looking but it's a 4 cylinder Turbo, really Toyota? Thank but not Thank you.
yes, toyota has a problem. They have intentionally held back production numbers to artificially keep prices higher. All manufacturers are following suit. We used to call that practice "price fixing" and it used to be illegal.
Only Toyota and Honda are limiting supply. Everyone else is begging for dealers to take on more supply.
Toyota is at max capacity, more people just want Toyota. People Lie Numbers Don’t.
We have a TRD pro and love it. It is thirsty and the transmission makes it a pain in the mountains, but reliable.
So some of the changes might be good. I’ll be interested to see the long term reviews on reliability. I assume that MTS and crawl has been improved. Also interested how easy it will be modify with the aftermarket. Will it take a winch, 33” tires or larger, etc,…
The 6th Gen 4Runner looks amazing!! Definitely on my list
I’m right there with you.. I fell in love with the TRD color MUD and been looking forward to the 6 gen for awhile since my 2016 4Runner kicked the bucket.
People seem to have a lot of money to buy these cars, dealers love it, manufacture loves it. Even such low inventory from Toyota, they should add 20k-50k markup to all the existing ones and make themselves a luxury premium brand.
Love the look but a 4 cylinder turbo pulling that big beast around all the time longevity on the 2.4 turbo is unknown
The same thing was said about the death of the v8
@@walawala-fo7ds and the Toyota v8 was and still is awesome and missed very much
@@Jojo-ni2cg ok but people cried about the V6 being too small, underpowered and how it was going to break down because of the "stress". goes to show, people in comments are not engine designers for a reason.
@@walawala-fo7ds Do your research ,many problems in all areas with the new tundra to include the engine-the tacoma and soon to be 4runner are all ready having quality issues.the new models use cheaper materials and cost more money its sad
Two engines mean each engine needs to do less work
I don't like the new style of the 4Runner it's not terrible, but it doesn't look better than the older version, in my opinion. Plus, it's going to be way too expensive. I'd rather have a Land Cruiser if I'm going to pay that much.
I’d buy one tomorrow if I could get a hybrid model for under 45k. The hybrid isn’t available on the cheapest trims though, so the cheapest hybrid will probably be 55k or more, and I am NOT paying that much for a vehicle that still is a joke regarding fuel economy.
Toyota destroyed the Highlander going from a proven 6 cylinder to a 4 cylinder engine in 2023.
Get a Lexus Gx if you want a bigger engine
Highlander is a mall crawler. No body on frame makes it a disposable vehicle
@@walawala-fo7ds I am looking for a Lexus RX 350 (6 or so years old) to buy in my price range.
That’s funny cos after with Jr to the turbo 4, the Highlander sales still increased. The turbo 4 makes the car easier to drive. You don’t have to rev it as much cos you get 317lb-ft of torque at an incredible low 1400rpm. Compared to the V6 that only have you 265lb-ft of torque at 4500rpm
I'm a longtime Toyota fan. 1976 Hilux Longbed, 1982 Celica GT-S, 1988 Xtra Cab 4x4 SR5 P/U, 1992 4Runner 4WD SR5, 1996 4Runner 4WD Limited, 2001 Tundra 4WD AC Limited, 1993 Landcruiser (still have), 2003 Tundra 2WD SR5, Currently 2006 Tundra 4WD AC Limited. I love the new Tacoma and 4Runner, The 3rd Gen Tundra, not so much. My biggest concern with these latest generation Toyotas is long term reliability and expense to repair them. Unfortunately they're mostly too expensive for me to buy one now.
It's OK in looks department. However everything else (including price) just screams "those fat stupid 'murikans will buy anything". Maybe it's just me, as I am not into "offroading". But for $60K I could build an offroader from scratch on pretty much any body on frame platform. And with all top shelf parts as well. And that including the donor truck and either crate engine or a rebuild. Because face it, you'll dump $20-30K in aftermarket crap onto it anyway.
I had a1997 4Runner and absolutely loved it. 3.4V6 with a 5speed. I have a2012 Tacoma TRD Sport now.
Toyota can't come out with new trucks and they have delays. Meanwhile their profits for the last quarter are up 80%. Imagine how profitable they would be when all these new models and trims finally come out and are ready for sale. I drive a 2022 4 Runner Trail Edition in Army Green and am a stockholder for Toyota (TM). Best automobile OEM by far.
Maybe now I can afford a 5th gen one lol
It may would have made more sense if they kept a V6 in the Land Cruiser lineup... it does seem strange strategically.
Toyota lost me as a customer with their delays in getting Cross Hybrids (and Prius Prime for my friend) to the dealers. Then, the dealers sell at MSRP and pad the OTD price with ridiculous add-ons that nobody wants. Bye Toyota. Yes, I CAN QUIT you!!!!!!!!
Delays?!? Supply and demand. Besides, if Zillow says your house is worth 800k and the state thinks it’s REALLY worth 400k, should I pay Your Price?!? Think about that, enjoy your KIA!
It’s not like they purposely created delays. Supply and demand exists. Right now the Corolla cross, Prius Prime are incredibly sought after, and they are also global products as well so inventory is limited cos demand outweighs supply
@@alwaysiyi272 But they have plenty of unsold Tundras, so they are not building enough of the hybrids that are in demand. Besides, the local dealers adding to the MSRP is what really pissed me off! They won't even discount 10%; so I'm getting a KIA PHEV.
Sure it looks great, interior is spot on. Powertrain? Not a chance. The 5th gen will last 300k, probably more. These 4cyl turbos on steep incline trails at high altitude will burn up. Never buying another new 4Runner again.
Any model enthusiast will always expect a new generation to surpass the current generation, however in the case of the 6th generation of 4 Runner, there is a general opinion that: We do not understand why produce a Tacoma model with a closed cabin (wagon model). ) with a lower engine (although they say that it generates more horsepower, since that number is the combination of the electric motor that, in addition to adding extra weight, only works for 20 miles).Better call the Tacoma sport wagon model, and not create a direct competition between Land Cruiser 250 and 4runner 6th gen.
They keep inventory low so they can keep prices high. Sell less for more money.its a win win for the manufacturer and dealer.
Aubrey, the best news is that 4Runner will continue to be built in Tahara, Japan and not Mexico like the Taco. I see pricing about the same as the fifth generation since the cost of the Land Cruiser came down. I will continue to be bulletproof and the 4Runner remains one of the few body-on-frame SUVs. Like you, I am waiting for our new Gen6.
Tesla? You're going to become very dissatisfied with that choice over the next 12 months.
Don't EVER buy a first year model unless you like being a beta tester. There are so many problems with ALL the new models (Tundras and Tacomas) The new LCs and GXs haven't dropped en masse yet. So we'll see what happens there. Long term reliability is seriously in question. I'm hoping the manufacturing process in Texas and Mexico get their shit together and start working out the kinks. New Tundra engines are dying on the road (literally) and Tacomas have their own issues. Although the 4Runner is being built in Japan, let the first year issues get worked out.
Thanks for the video. I'm on 2 waiting lists, but don't have my hopes up too much: Lexus GX550 OverTrail and Toyota '25 4Runner TRDPro. I moved from waiting lists for the Toyota Sequoia TRDPro and LandCruiser. No decision as to the GX550 or 4Runner, if they ever arrive and I get a call from the waiting lists. I only hope I've got enough money if/when the time comes.
I wish I had gotten a 1996 4Runner 4x4 4-cylinder 5-spd instead of my 1996 Accord LX 5-spd.
I also like the 6th Gen 4Runner. I don’t need the longevity of the 5th Gen and older as I have a 3rd Gen Tacoma ACLB. I am debating which one of the 3 to get (T4R/LC250/GX550).
Is Toyota's low inventory because of problems at Toyota, or is it by design?
By design.
I’m shopping for a new RAV4. From my research, Toyota has been catching up, BUT demand is high.
They caught RAV4 production up drastically, but, people are buying them like hotcakes.
Also, Toyota takes their time to get their products to the showroom.
I’m not a Toyota fanboy as this sounds, I come from a GM employee family and own a Camaro.
It has been well documented that Toyota is intentionally not ramping up production in order to keep inventory levels low in order to keep the price high. Same with Honda.
@@DeadAir21idk if you look at Corolla prices it is in line with MSRP
The trailhunter trim level is enough of a selling point for the 6th gen
Yea it's awesome but it'll be priced into orbit. $10k markups will put it near 80k lol
I think the pricing makes sense mostly. The cars don’t look the same. One looks much sleeker and comes with features that would make the 4Runner the same price anyway. I think these are two different buyers for sure.
MPG estimates are garbage. I do not understand why these companies cannot figure out how to get the MPG up.
In Utah along I-15 I saw 3 Landcruisers on a car hauler Transport - all Brown
The manufacturers don't really benefit from low supply, with the exception of not having to offer any incentives.
The real beneficiary of low supply is the dealership, however the dealerships may prefer to find the balance between selling more units at a slightly lower price so as to increase their total number of customers for service and parts business in the future.
So to say that the manufacturer and dealerships are purposely keeping supply low is not 100 percent accurate in my opinion. Having been in the car biz for 25 years or so, we always wanted good inventory of cars that don't sit on the lot, yes we did like high margins on some models but if we only got a few of those models every month it didn't help as much as having more inventory of vehicles that people want to buy.
Land Cruiser will be at or below MSRP, 4Runner will 10k over, because it looks much better. Same chassis, same factory. Tacoma is nice too, but made in Mexico.
I love the look the model looks beautiful but I believe they kill the truck with the 4 cylinder and the Turbo don’t like it at all ❤❤ 👍👍
4 cylinder and a small interior? No thank you I will stick with old and reliable.
Land Cruiser is not a nicer 4Runner and that’s not my opinion. 4R in an inclosed Tacoma that shares parts with some Land Cruiser family SUV. The streamlining of the Toyota line up however does make them seem very similar but it more than just semantics
The TRD Pro and Trail Hunter Tacomas are mid-sixties. I would expect the 4Runner, at least the TRD Pro and Trail Hunter to be every bit as expensive as the Land Cruiser maybe even more so.
...and still can't afford it. Taco TRD Pro I-force Max $80,000 OTD. Yeah i'm sure most people can't afford that. Even the SR5 or TRD Sport the premium package will cost $8000 with dealer add-ons on top of the base MSRP. PASS!
I'm a 4runner fan also! Can't wait to see them at the dealerships!
I can't wait til you get your hands on one and do a video about it!
girl be prepared for dealer prices ! I really like 6th gen as well !
I waited 4 years for the 4Runner this will be my first new car I could care less I wanted this I held out not getting the old 2009-2024 4Runner it’s not modern enough for me especially for my first brand new car. So I am excited I just know I am going to have to fight to get this 2025 4Runner Trd off road premium and don’t want to get overcharged.
Best tactic is to wait for the 2026. Let the desperate people pay the markups
To me it looks great… makes me want to sell my 5th Gen rig to build out a 6th.
I don't think Toyota care if the LC and 4Runner are similar, the LC was never sold in large numbers in the US anyway (Australia buys 5 to 6 times more LC's than the US with only 1/14th the population). They are most likely just giving customers what they want as its not hard to do when they are already shipping the twin Lexus to the states anyway. The LC 250 the US is getting is really the 4runner of places like Australia and SA that don't get them (called Prado). Im Australian living in the states at the moment and I only wish we got the 4Runner back home.
South America has the 4Runner. And yes, also the Prado as you wrote.
They are not trying to sale TRD pro or trail hunter. They want to sale tacoma truck at lower trim level for higher cost for example charging you 50k for base model vehicles. They up charge you just to up charge with you getting less and paying more for base models same with ford
Artificial scarcity is rampant in the car industry now and the only way to stop it is to not give any of these companies your money. Last year I was looking for a sports sedan in the $60-70K range and any car with true value was upcharged regardless of manufacturer. Audi RS3 was my first pick and they wanted $20K over sticker and a 5 month wait bringing it to the price of an Aston Martin or loaded C8 Vette and other "semi-super cars". Instead, they tried to sell me a ton of loaded S3's that were over priced for the performance you got. Every Audi dealer had tons of those. You mean to tell me that Audi can make A3's and S3's but somehow they can't get materials for RS3's? Bull crap.
I went across the street to MB and looked at the CLA45S AMG, Apparently they made 25 of them for the 2024 model- 25 for the entire country. They were happy trying to sell me a CLA35 for the same price, though. Any truly valuable car, meaning something worth the money you pay for it- is not available unless you pay more than it is worth. ALL COMPANIES ARE DOING THIS NOW!
My solution was going to the same Mercedes dealer my parents go to for over 30 years and purchase their CLA35 demo at their dead cost. 3K miles on it and $20K below sticker. MB got no money from me, the dealer I like did. I got a car well below my price range and didn't take part in the nonsense.
Try to buy a Nissan Z, GR Corolla or 86, Bronco, Vette or even a Supra and you will get the same, poor business practices. They make millions of undesirable cars to shove down our throats but make 25 of the cars we all want for the entire country. This is how industries give you less product for more money over time, it's madness and we need to fix it with our wallets by not participating. Wait a year, that car you want will have a few miles on it and cost less.
Some people don't care EV cars, or FSD, they just prefer to drive....
Toyota's (Honda, Nissan, Subaru, Yamaha, Suzuki, Mitsubishi) are said to be old (17c-19c) covert Korean/Chinese clan's company, therefore their aim is to take over Japan/America.
Dealers are overcharging like crazy. They are less reliable with shit engine choices. And they cost significantly more than ever. 5th Gen wins again.
If the lates runner runs and behaves like the Tacoma, here is my review of the Tacoma:
New 4cyl turbo motors in the trucks, as well as 6cyl turbo, are junk. Overall Feel is cheap. Do not like how it drives, accelerates, cheap plasticky interior, gigantic and useless screen. Overall it is 🤢 🤮… Not worth the money. Go buy the latest 4L and ignore the latest junk…
It's not a bad looker, being outside the US it is weird to see TRD badging on anything in 2024, it's kind of a blast from the past.
Toyota USA shoots itself on the foot by being such a unique outlier. I suspect if they made less models world wide they could do better in terms of inventory. I don't understand why Fortuner and 4Runner cannot be unified, the same applies for Tacome and HiLux. The can have different trim levels, different engines even, even a different nameplate! But right now they have the 4Runner, Land Cruiser Prado, and Fortuner three SUVs roughly the same size.
Same when it comes to pickups, they have the HiLux, the Tacoma, and the HiLux Champ. Theree mid-size trucks.
When it comes to small cars they have the Corolla, the Prius, and the Vios. Again roughly the same size.
I tend to think they should unify, and simplify their offerings.
nike, the only modern company to be convicted of slavery multiple times and kicked out of multiple countries.
No thanks. Toyota has lost its way and has destroyed their reputation by putting in smaller engines with turbos across their entire product lines, which will both reduce reliability and longevity while increasing problems and cost. Turbo charged Tundra, Tacoma, and Sequoia engines are detonating at less than 10k miles. Previous generation Toyota engines would regularly go 300k without issues. Looks like I'll keep my 2008 4Runner with 162k miles that hasn't had ONE problem, because I'm confident that it will still outlast the turbo'd motors in today's Toyota POS's. Wake up Toyota. Fire your CEO and go back to producing quality products if it's not too late.
These prices are just crazy and after the dealership gets their way.
Toyota might be bumming out potential buyers but they top the list currently of top selling cars in U.S. It’s fellow carmakers are sitting on tons of inventory going over 300 days sitting on lots. Toyota (production) is being smart to put out new vehicles slower, I think. I’m personally not in the market as I have a new 5th gen 4R but Toyota gets new vehicles to fill my local lots and they still sell. Dealers adding mark ups is not cool. But buyers paying those prices will continue to be the problem. I don’t believe Toyota has a volume problem I think if more auto makers followed Toyota the car market would possibly be in a better place. My .02.
I don't like the "dual mustache" look of the front grille at all.
I’m upset with the 4runner. my issue is the 3rd row option for they hybrid motor. Thay need to design a 3 row that works with the hybrid. Also i’m not that fond of a 4 cylinder powering it in the first place. Why overload a turbo 4cylinder engine to push this thing around. Gas mileage better be close to 30mpg for this big move to a turbo 4. The limited model seems degraded knowing mostly families buy a limited so the 3 option needs to be there with the hybrid motor option. Other than the engine and the 3 row option i think they did a good job. Let’s just hope the price isn’t the killer of it all. I’ve always been a 4runner buyer but this might push me to getting the Lexus 550 instead. I’ll give it 4 years to work out all the bugs of the new style then make my decision
The engine isn't overloaded. It produces more power more efficiently and has an 8 speed transmission on top of more power lower in the rpm band. It is the v6 with the 5 speed that was overloaded 😂 the gear hunting of the v6 and the meme that it was always towing proved the engine was simply too weak for the job
Why is Toyota so slow with technology and screens?
They like to use old, proven technology. I have a 2004 4Runner, and it doesn't have a backup camera, blind spot warning, adaptive cruise, lane keeping, park assist, cross traffic alert, Toyota Safety Sense, satellite radio/MP4 infotainment, hands-free Bluetooth, wireless phone charger or heated seats. However, it does have a 4.7-liter V8 and has not had any mechanical problems for that past 20 years and 200K miles.
More expensive than the Tacoma...well, Toyota can go screw. I fall into the category of people who can afford to pay for a new vehicle but am not stupid enough to pay their absurd MSRP. MSRPs need to come back down to earth.
Bet the color was 75% of it.
How about car camping? I don’t think the seats will move enough for that now.
Roof tents are all the rage now
There is a big hump in the cargo area for the battery in the models that have the iForce Max option.
Oohhhlala! I need the grass helper!!! Thanks Aubrey
4runner looks better BUT It's going to be 2 EXPENSIVE. 👎🤣🍻
My favorite color was Voodoo blue.
So you bought a whole Tesla because your AC didn’t work well? Lol
4 cylinder Toyota made in Mexico I don't see the quality being there
All 4Runners are being built in Japan.
Informative and factual points. Rolex does the same with certain stainless steel watches Daytona & Subs, limit production heightens desire. Even though she has ultra liberal views , Tik Tox videos of a few years back irritated me she does nail the topics related to vehicles. 😂😂😂
I think it looks awesome.
I cannot take anyone's advice serriously that bought a Tesla.. how's that resale value working out for ya??? when the new ones are cheaper than the resale value of the old ones.???
All new cars are depreciating assets. The best value for the money is to buy one, take care of it and keep it for 20 years.
Looks like a chevy blazer! Hahaha
4cyl turbo = NO
Sounds like you’re calling it a ‘Toyota Foreigner’ sometimes lol.
Wow, zero actual info about the 4 Runner
dont trust tesla owners.
Yeah a turbo 4 is really exciting 🙄
I mean 326hp and 465 lb-ft of torque is way more exciting than the 270ho the 4.0 V6 offered
@@alwaysiyi272 I'll have to wait and see how it drives. Hopefully, the new 8-speed transmission should help keep it from straining too much.
Worst 4runner ever made.
Nonsense from a Tesla owner...
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Heck yeah!! Get that big tire 4x4 that’ll never see more than a gravel road if at all. Truck buyers are sucking up all the gas, and destroying the roads to look cool …psyop!! How did we ever survive without giant P/Us and SUVs..oh yeah I forgot about buying the 50 gallon drums of mayonnaise at the clubs.