Panasonic = carbon zinc Duracell = alkaline Energizer lithium = lithium These have a different chemical make-up. Some are gonna perform better in high drain devices and others better in low drain devices.
I was thinking of this, too, as I would think some of those batteries are better in high-drain devices (but I wouldn't have known about the chemical make-up that might be some additional differences to consider) Thanks for bringing it up!
Yeah, using the heavy duty Panasonic batteries in this test wasn't really fair. Those types of batteries work much better in devices that don't have a light or a motor, like a pocket radio with an analog dial.
Absolutely right, it depends on the device too. You can take the dead batteries out of many higher drain devices, and put them in a lower drain device like a TV remote and they will still work for quite some time.
I used to test household batteries professionally. I can tell you that your test does not support your conclusion, and that it does not analyze the batteries to their full potentials. In general the lithium batteries will outlast alkalines by a large margin, and nickel-metal hydrides (NiMH) by a comfortable but smaller margin. The main difference is the discharge slopes of each chemistry. For the alkalines and NiMH batteries the slope is kind of like an airplane landing, a slow gradual decline with maybe a few moments where it eases or accelerates until it dies. The lithium slope is drastically different, you get a slight drop at the start, then it holds steady until it reaches it's fully discharged point and drops as if going over a cliff. Lithiums are intended to be used in "high-tech" devices such as digital cameras, not low-tech things like those fans. Get three digital cameras (or six) and test them by taking one flash photo every ten seconds with each chemistry, swapping the type of battery in each camera so that each is tested in each camera once. Be prepared to get VERY bored pressing the shutter button . . . and very amazed at the number of photos the lithium batteries take in comparison to the other chemistries. Point being that a simple test like you ran does not paint an accurate picture of cost-effectiveness. I tested all brands and all chemistries, including rechargeables. I tested them "in device" and on test cabinets that could simulate any device including those which were not practical to test manually (you would never want to run a manual comparison using wireless video game controllers, we tried). And then there is the issue of shelf life, each chemistry has its own expectancy, which must be factored into any cost evaluation.
@@whatzupperent.4036 Why, just because his interests differ from yours? LOL. Thank God for our differences, or our eternal life would surely be boring. :D ~♥~
I'm in awe imagining how you managed to monitor these little fans for so many hours straight, and so many rounds even! Thank you for your sacrifice, haha, this was quite informative.
I actually enjoyed this video. Not enough data to be entirely accurate, but on the right track. 'Panasonic' is a carbon-zinc battery, designed for "low current drain" devices. Of course they will die first in a "high current drain" device such as a fan (motors are "high drain" no matter how you look at it). The 'energizer ultimate lithium' are designed for "super high current drain" devices, such as cameras and some very powerful flashlights (such as the ones with CREE L.E.D.s). That is why they lasted the longest in the fans. Good idea, but not an efficient use for an expensive battery. All the others are 'alkaline' batteries, which are designed for "high current drain" (not to be confused with 'super high drain' that I mentioned earlier). These are the batteries designed for this purpose (fans, rc cars, and such).
@@bernardfriedman532 Panasonic is actually a pretty major name brand. Back in the 90s growing up, we had a Panasonic TV and a Panasonic VHS camcorder. I think they're being cheap with their batteries though.
was about to mention drain rate as well, one more factor is shelf life/stability. Also vampiric drain which is when devices slowly drain batteries while on standby, this is why you should remove batteries for storage(also they tend to leak or corrode your device)
I was thinking the same. This test can end up being completely pointless if one battery pack is 2 years older than the other etc. They should all have close manufacturer dates.
@@mschari1484 working in a store who sells batteries I can tell you that could easily happen, depending on how often they sell and how many is ordered at a time. With the less common batteries we have had them expire in store a couple of times.
@Hersey Berry I save my dead xbox one controller batteries for the tv remote because of that reason. a battery that is too low for xbone controller will power a tv remote for like 6 months
One important distinction not made by the personperforming the test was that the Panasonic batteries used in the test were zinc-carbon batteries, the oldest and weakest consumer battery type on the market. All other batteries in the test were alkaline or lithium, which are much more advanced. Panasonic does make alkaline batteries and Energizer does make carbon batteries under the Everready brand name. So in that respect, this wasn't an apples to apples comparison.
@@scenicmyles I use the Sunbeam brand all the time. 👍 Definitely the best bang for the buck. They are alkaline while I believe the Panasonic brand is a heavy duty non-alkaline.
Ok, you're awesome. I'm guessing the reason for the drop in performance in the next few rounds was because the motors were running hot. Keep it up PLEASE! VERY entertaining and even thrilling.
@Tiamat: The 3DS Games (After SSA) you just scan the Toys once and it's unlocked in the game. As for the 3DS version of SSA. You don't keep the figure on the Portal constantly. You just scan once to store the Figure (up to two at a time) and only scan again for when you want to swap active characters
I'm my younger years I worked in a factory. Many times we simply switched labels (i.e. cheap to expensive and vise versa) and kept running the line. Some batteries were stored for so long the labels had to be removed and the batteries were relabeled with newly designed labels.
Exactly....Here's another example....Walmart sells milk and they sell Name Brand Dairy Milk too.... So where are the Walmart Cows??? LOL...If you don't think there's a label game going on I've got great land in Florida for sale...
I use to be in the imported food business. Caners would take the blank cans as we called Brights. Then they would label the cans according the amount sold to as company and then change the label to the other brand even though its the very same thing. So Jeffery I know just what you mean.
Same with bread, flip a switch and now the same bread in a different bag. My neighbor used to work on the railroad. He said that when tankers came in filled with antifreeze, they would put different colored dyes and each tanker.
Maybe, but it was not an Eveready factory, or even a Panasonic or Duracell for that matter. Also remember that this video was a apples to oranges comparison with all of the different battery types as well as brands.
Those aren’t normal Energizer batteries, though, they’re lithium primary (non-rechargeable) cells, which is a better technology than alkaline, but also more expensive.
@@Jwoshie get a recharge pair or the 'play and charge kit' it would help you save a lot of money i used duracells but they only lasted my a week on 2 pairs
I thought this was a well done thought experiment, I don't have anything negative to say, but I will say that I have seen some other battery comparison studies, and some batteries (like lithium) don't last much longer in regular applications like a TV remote, but in high drain applications like a digital camera they dominate regular nickel batteries. So the take away from that is there are different types of battery applications that certain battery types Excel in, but other types that make little difference whatsoever. Well made video.
Imo it was done purely for entertainment. I would have liked to see capacitance of those batteries, better do it myself with my electronic load. Can set with different levels of discharge.
Exactly. It highly depends on the application what battery type to choose. If you think you are clever with putting rechargeable batteries into a tv remote... you dont know anything about self discharge.
Yes this "test" is only for entertainment, it only show the result for one application of power drainage from battery's, low drainage, medium drainage and high drainage application will show different results. You have to chose battery type that suit for you application, there is no battery that fits into all applications.
I think you missed a huge opportunity here. I wonder if the fans spin at different RPM’s, and how long does the fan blow at top speed? For example, lithium generally keeps its voltage constant all the way until it dies. Alkaline voltage drops as the battery drains, as you can see with the fans slowing down. So part of the cost calculation should be how long the fan is still fast enough to offer a proper airflow. Because if it’s spinning too slow, even if lasts for another hour, it’s not really useful anymore. You wouldn’t happen to have some kind of way to measure RPM, or maybe airflow?
I see your point but it really doesn´t matter, which is the criteria as far as it stays the same, and when/if the fans are matched or you sample many fans or many batteries the results are going to be consistent. In fact, it might sound counter intuitive but, what you are proposing for testing induces another fault condition in the test and that´s the sensor.
I have found that re-chargeable Energizers are the best.. ya buy em 1 time, and you can charge them 500 to 700 times and they last just as long on the last charge as they do on the first charge, when they fail, it's very quick.. like a li-ion battery.. but.. cost wise.. you cannot beat re-chargeables. The cost of the energy to re-charge a battery is soooo much less than buying a new battery. :)
I tried this but short of inspecting trash and hitting people (family of 5 three teenagers)... I'm not sure on how to get folks to stop throwing the batteries away. THEY ARE COLORED GREEN!! I even asked that no battery go in the trash before inspection, at this point everyone in the house was tired of being scolded about batteries. No one fesses up, but I buy them a significant number of them never return to the charger. I also discovered that goodwill gets a bunch after xmas.
@@andrewmason4004 I never tried them, actually I've never seen them.. I can find them online and give em a try. All I see in the stores around me is energizer and Duracell.
I come from an RC background so know lots about batteries. You need a ''peak detector'' and LiPo4 batteries to make recharging viable. Otherwise I go for quality Alkalines. If you are in the field with no 240VAC etc. then you are relying on 12VDC and you need top quality electronic battery charger that is in the hundred of dollars range to make it all work. Alkaline''s are cheap and slowly discharge. Where as Recharges dies almost instantly..
Not really... Zinc batteries are pretty terrible no matter the manufacturer, no matter the "unscientific" method he used with the fans to measure duration (although a large sample is always the cure for that) he should have compared same chemistry batteries. Alkaline batteries and Zinc batteries are two totally different beasts on their own.
@@TrickyNekro criteria was price vs duration in a pretty high load (motor) scenario; towards the end of video there is some talk about which battery is better if you dont want to swap often vs long lasting ones
@@alerey4363 I´ve watched the whole thing don´t worry. Pricing can vary heavily on where you buy your stuff, so... meh?! Was the load "heavy"? Well If the whole video is to be believed and the Energizer Lithium Datasheet also to be believe, for both of which I do not have a reason to have a doubt, the load on the batteries should have been around 500mA, which for some batteries might be no problem, again from the Energizer datasheet we get that maximum continues output for that batteries is 2.5A, and for some others not so great. Still there are more point to be made. Carbon Zinc batteries have a shelf life of about 3 years. Alkaline batteries on the other hand go to usually 10 years, with the energizers claiming, if I remember correctly 20 years. Somewhere I might have seen that the panasonic ones were discontinued in North America. So if the guy really lives in North America, which I have not checked, who knows how old these batteries actually are? Do you see where I am getting? Plot holes everywhere, even for the price factor. Yeah, the video is catchy and not badly made as a video and sure as hell it´s painful to test for long hours, I know that very well, but... Chemistry does matter. The fan scenario is a pretty niece scenario also, biggest percentage of people using batteries are for TV remotes, which again is a another current draw scenario (High pulsed current with long shelf life in between). So mate, spare me the dick licking for the creator, it´s not a bad video, but people should be made aware that plot holes exist and there are more than meets the eye in this case.
What is "Special" about buying cheap rechargeable batteries on ebay, instead of buying Duracell etc. & then throwing them away ???? Where I live it's called common sense !
for consistent use of an item, such as flashlight, rechargeable is the way to go. For intermittent or one off use disposable is the way to go. All have their place. For storage, Rechargeables lose their charge in a month or so. Not suitable for emergency flashlight, or smoke detector.
no he came back every 30 mins sometimes every hour to take a look, you can tell from the numbers, also when he sees one of them is slow he waits for it to die
@@RockNRoll__ wanna bet it wasnt 8 hours straight? I'm sure there was a specific frequency of minutes he would check in on them either every 30 mns or every 15. He did not stay for 8 hours, 4 times..
Wouldn't really matter, even batteries from the exact same pack can have varying capacities, the only fair way to compare them is to put a constant current load on them and monitor the power drawn. If you want an example of how to properly compare batteries take a look at this: th-cam.com/video/846m-boWB64/w-d-xo.html
This is fantastic data! Yeah, sometimes time served is the issue, and other times, you don't mind swapping out often, if you're paying significantly less. For some things, I would definitely buy the Sunbeam (I keep picturing bread, for some reason. Is it actually the same brand?), and for others, I'd definitely go with the Energizer, because some things simply NEED to run uninterrupted. I'm just falling in love with this channel! Even if I have no interest in shopping, the reviews, themselves, are so highly enjoyable to me. Keep up the good work!
I think "dislike" means "dear algorithm, please do not recommend such a video to me". I dislike great made video on topics I don't like to see as recommendations.
It's bit weird to say this incredibly detailed when only thing what he said about those batteries was that they were AA batteries. Nothing about mAH or type of them or anything.
This is _far_ from being any form of reliable test, for there are way too many variables. How have the batteries been stored (e.g. at which temperature)? Were they all produced at the same time? Why did he use batteries only from the respective same package and not from different production samples? Why did he not open the batteries (a thing only to be done by professionals of course) to check any differences in manufacturing quality and chemical composition? The biggest value this video has is its entertainment value, which for me has to to with somebody really watching batteries drain for a couple of days. Wow.
This was an excellent video blog. I live in a very remote section of the Mojave Desert in Southern California, and although I am on the grid, I still use a lot of battery powered things. It's paid me over and over to have a couple of cheap flashlights in the house, in my cars, in the garage, etc--you get my drift. I stock up on the dirt cheap Sunbeams at the dollar store each time I drive the thirty miles into the nearest small town. There are side winders all over the place during the hot summer nights, and as my old grandmother would pound into my head back in the day, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." Thank you for the time, energy, and skill, it took you to put up the video.
Digital camera flashes are a high load for a battery. Cheap batteries can handle the large instantaneous drain from the flash! They just don't recover like a lithium battery. Many digital cameras require you to use lithium batteries!
well i would counter that by saying that constant use with a fan motor is really a very narrow application -better to run trials comparing intermittent use and other kinds of applications
Before this started, I was thinking he would have a device with e-ink so if they die, they keep the time at whatever time they died. Would have been easier anyway but maybe it's not available, tried and true time spending is always the easiest if not the most time efficient.
The Panasonic is carbon based where all the other are alkaline. You should have mentioned that. For low power, sporadic application, like remote control, they are perfect. You basically tested them with the worse possible scenario. Also, Panasonic do have an alkaline version you should test.
This is an interesting comparison. I also tend to use cheaper generics in low-power situations too. Anyone remember how your batteries would always die in your first digital cameras!! Lol.. before rechargeable lithium batteries took over.... before smartphones took over alltogether...
Yep. Any battery labeled with "Heavy Duty" is usually non-alkaline stuff. And is only good for low power applications...which this test isn't. For something like a TV remote, all these batteries would probably last the same amount of time.
I’m at work and I just got yelled at by my boss. I told him I was learning about what are the best batteries to power basic appliances. He’s making me stay late today... At least I know which kind of batteries I should put in my TV remote from now on. Worth it.
I was surprised not to see them in the running as well. Seem to remember an old consumer report ( before TH-cam) where heavy duty rayovacs outperformed Duracell alkaline. Still ‘thumbs up!’
Ikea alkaline batteries are generally tested as the most cost effective batteries you can get, whereas Energizer ultimate lithium are the best at any cost.
I think I would've used a volt meter to check the initial voltage of the batteries. Also I think the lithium may have an unfair advantage over the rest. I wouldn't mind seeing just a lithium vs lithium test! And maybe a fan and LED light test? Sounds like a lot of work though! Great video!
Well it's good that you're thinking of ways to improve the testing method, but that's the wrong way to go about it, probing AA cells without any load on them gives you no information, even a dead cell can climb all the way back up to over 1V but it's still dead. If you want a detailed explanation check out EEVBlog, here's one talking about: th-cam.com/video/b_eictfFUao/w-d-xo.html or look for his videos on the Batteriser.
I think Panasonic is know for its big electrics [TV's, stereos] and maybe doesn't focus on small batteries. Kind of like, how Sony is know for its big electrics [TV's, stereos, headphones] and doesn't focus on its movies.
Panasonic owns Sanyo and the premium rechargable battery brand, Eneloop. They also make most of the cells used in powerbanks like Anker and electric vehicles like Tesla. They're known to make the best batteries together with LG, Samsung, Toshiba and Hitachi. Sony also used to make batteries but, I heard AvE talk about Sony leaving this market due to liability issues associated with these products.
Panasonic is a known brand, but I know their AA batteries are "cheap". That said, as the video mentions, they can give good value depending on the application.
it's not that panasonic makes bad batteries (if they even produce them, it's more likely they've just liscensed them). the life cycle of a battery depends on it's chemical composition, the designations of aa, aaa, c, and d only refer to the physical size of the battery (if you look at the voltage of your standard battery you'll see 1.5v compared to a rechargeable battery of the same size which tends to be either slightly lower or higher). the reason they crapped out so quickly is because they're "heavy duty" (zinc) batteries. despite their name, they have pretty shitty capacity and are most suited for low current and short use time applications like remotes where the circuit is only activated during a button press or something similar. the others (obviously excluding the lithium) where all alkaline batteries which has a much larger capacity and, therefore, lasts longer and are better suited for higher current / steady use time applications than their paradoxically named counterparts. you kids today, i swear, this was common knowledge when the walkman, and later the discman, ruled the roost of portable music :P
Akkumulators are certainly better when you count in waste production. Not sure how far ahead they come out if you count the recharge device into the cost. The first batch might not be a winner when it you do so.
Rechargeable would smoke these, even if you buy a charger and charge them in Hawaii at $0.28 per kWh. You can recharge at least 500 times so if you spent $15 on a 4 pack that is less than a penny per use.
The Panasonic were labeled as "Heavy Duty" and not Alkaline. These will always be shit batteries. On the flip side, Lithium batteries have a different drain curve than Alkaline. They output full power for longer, then drop off VERY steeply. This means the device they're used in could have an enormous impact on the results.
I use AAA batteries in my insulin pump, and alkaline Panasonic are the worst batteries I have ever put in there. It shows low power warning right after replacement, which typically means you should replace within 24 hours. Ones made by more reputable manufacturers last for weeks. Stay away from Panasonic's batteries.
Vengirni I use Panasonic to do unimportant things like for video game controllers sometimes. They are cheap, but at least they work. I bought Dollar General brand batteries from that store once and as soon as I took them out of the package and put them in an Xbox 360 controller, they didn't have enough power to even use at all. The Panasonic at least could be used for a few hours.
@@TortureBot I had similar results in my xBox One controller (AAx2) and Turtle Beach headphones (AAAx2). The Panasonics last about 10 hours in my headphones and 24 hours in my controller. The Duracell and Energizers last about 2 days and 6 days respectively. I have been using the Sunbeams lately for both as my Dollar tree sells 8 of AA and AAA for 1 dollar each pkg. The Sunbeams last about 24 hours in my headphones and 2 days in my controller. I think powering electronic devices are less stressful on batteries than driving motors even though the headphones drive the wireless transmitter and the vibrate motor intermittently in the controller. I have tons of rechargeables but the disposables out-perform because the constant recharging kills the rechargeables after a few weeks - not as cost effective for my use.
I've been using the Sunbeam Alkaline AA and AAA batteries from Dollar Tree in my TV remotes, wall clocks and game controllers for the past 8 years. For cheap $1 batteries they hold up surprisingly well in electronic devices. (PS do not buy any battery branded "Super Heavy Duty" or one that mentions carbon-zinc. They are all crap!) If you do another comparison, how about testing Ray-O-Vac, Panasonic Alkaline (they sell these at my local Dollar Trees in 2 or 3 packs), Maxell, the Non-lithium Energizers, and store brands like Walgreens, Members Mark from Sam's Club and Kirkland from Costco.
That is IMO the best. Use cheap alkalines for remotes etc. where the batteries last 6 months to two years. If you then have something where it lasts days or weeks, use rechargeables.
Hi, I use the sunbeam alkaline "aa" and "aaa" batteries in all my energizer headlamp flashlights, and all my led work lights. They perform quite well and don't hurt the bank. Most of my light's use between two and three batteries per device. My uses are for hiking, camping, fishing, auto repair, home repair, soldering electronics and working on computers. The "Dollar Tree (brand)" sunbeam "aa" alkaline batteries shown in this video (and their little cousins - "aaa" alkaline batteries) have been my "go to" battery for several years. Personally, I recommend these to everyone I know and I recommend them in my review videos. Sincerely, Jacob SurvivalGeek (TH-cam) th-cam.com/channels/fRsUPToBXp4ZIre__dJg4A.html
I have to agree I use them for my 5 and 3 year old sons toys and they have a lot of toys I go to dollar tree spend $10 on batteries and dont have to buy more for like a month! If u ask me u can spend 2$ on two packs of sunbeams and get the same performance as the Energizers at half the cost only difference is that you have to swap them out
@@paulna5526 This right here. But one thing not mentioned in that article: the amount of charge in a battery diminishes over time. So a set of recently manufactured batteries will work longer than a set that has been on the shelf a long time. Look for an expiration date on the batteries. Off- brand batteries might not sell as quickly, so look for the date!
Duracell actually has had a bunny maskot longer than Energizer, but Energizer trademarked it in the US, so duracell cant show it here. They use it in china and stuff though.
Thanks for the info provided, it was useful. Might have been even more useful if you'd tried each battery in 2 or 3 different types of devices - one low-drain, one high-drain, and maybe one intermittent-duty (e.g., switch on for 5 sec, off for 5 minutes, & repeat). This would have made for a much, much longer test, however.
I have seen them leak in the store when considering trying them in my blackout lights,Colman battery LED lanterns 0n a low setting that can go 20 hours on 4 size D NI-MH 1.2 v .2800 mAh Energizers but with no power to recharge I was looking for a cheap one that could go a few days in a power blackout. i need about 20 to run 4 lanterns.
Why are you people replying to this comment if your not going to talk about it? You could just leave your "own" comment...just a suggestion. BTW Drachen, yes his videos are like Christmas!
I use the ultra lithium batteries for important and sensitive things like laser meaning tools and infrared thermometers, but I use the discount Kirkland Costco batteries for pretty much everything else.
I'm a science teacher and I'm reading a science fair report right now. The student was inspired by your video and basically recreated your experiment to test different batteries (he cited your video in his background research and bibliography). I just thought it was cool because I watch all of your reviews, and one of my students randomly stumbled upon this video and used it as inspiration.
Battery leakage is an additional issue for me, and a good number of my components have been opened only to find the tell tale green residue, that tells me there has been a battery compromise. All have been Duracell's, the black and gold ones. This coupled with the fact that at the Dollar Tree, I can get eight AA Sunbeams for one dollar, has me buying the cheap over the expensive. So far, I have not had a single leak with the Sunbeams. Whether this is because of the higher turn over rate on the Sunbeams, or that they just do not leak - I do not know. As a nod to Duracell, they are ready to refund the price of their batteries, if the leaky batteries are sent back to them. I did this once, then kind of gave up after that. This is just my personal experience. Thanks James, for the test.
You aren't the only one who has seen that. Duracells used to not leak at all, even after dying. Now, they start leaking BEFORE they quit working. This phenomenon helped me ruin a perfectly good Maglite LED flashlight. GRRRRR! Guess what batteries I'm not buying anymore. :(
I agree, leaking batteries is my ultimate problem, who cares how much a battery is when your electronics go down in a blob of corrosive green goo! Duracell's are not any better they just factor into the cost of business - warranty claims. CVS's have been my worst leakers of all, remove from device everytime your finished to avoid the goo of death. CVS batteries however, with coupons and BOGO's can cost as little as a quarter of regular Duracell's making them a bargain if bought at the right sale.
@@dr.a.w LOL. The one time I sent the batteries back to Duracell, it was batteries that leaked BEFORE they were used. It was the single row, flat pack of 12 double A's. I found to my dismay, in the middle of the pack was a battery that had leaked and grew that acid fuzz around the contact. In sending the whole pack back, the shipping was probably equal to the cost of the battery pack. The experience left me a little sour over name brand batteries, unfortunately.
That's crazy! My experience has been exactly opposite, the Sunbeams have always caused an issue but never the Duracell and even the Panasonics have done well.
@@creakycracker exactly. no one has mentioned this. the guy in the video just gives terrible advice - telling people to look for "high drain" marketing wank. just look for alkaline batteries. they will likely be your best value
I would not categorize CVS batteries as "cheap," they are more like convenience batteries. Almost everything at CVS is overpriced. CVS counts on people needing addition things when they buy medicine and they charge a premium for those products. It is good that you removed it from the dollar cost average.
It's not just CVS, all drug stores sell other things for the same reason. The pharmacy is usually in a back corner somewhere so you'll need to walk through their aisles starting with every day needs like soaps, toothpaste, shampoos, being a straight shot from the main doors.
I don't know where you live but there are fairly good buys at CVS stores in my area. They often run specials and sales offering 50% or more off of most household items.
The best alkaline battery for the money you can get is form Ikea. It costs $2.29 for 10 of them which is one of the cheapest prices per battery you can get, and they are also some of the longest lasting.
Those sweeds. I would get them, but I hate putting them together. Seems I'm always missing a part, or weird lockscrew. And I hate it when charge doesn't fit in the charge hole.
A test like this has been way overdue and here it has been finally done by Freakin' Reviews! Thank you for this awesome and thorough test! I always wondered if the batteries advertised as being more powerful (and more expensive) for cameras and high tech things were really more powerful and it seems they are. It doesn't matter as much to the young people whose things all recharge from their computers but for people like me with battery charged things I'm really grateful for your test. Especially before Christmas (Batteries Not Included) lol.
I use the sunbeam brand batteries on my wireless keyboard and they are from the dollar store. And my keyboard doesn’t need new batteries for six months . But my wireless mouse, I have to change every sixty days. Another great review Mr. White.
The dollar store batteries (like the panasonic and sunbeam) are for low drain devices. They say this on the packaging. That means things like remote controls, not flashlights or computer mice (it has a laser to power)
Can you do one with Costco’s brand Kirkland, Sams club brand Members mark and Amazon’s brand Amazon Basics vs the big name brands? Most people have memberships to at least 1 of those 3 if not all 3 of those places
Very interesting, it'd be interesting to see other things, as well, such as whether the batteries retain charge while they're not being used, or how consistent the power output is.
Thank you for providing answers to the exact question that has been haunting me ever since the 'low-renter' budget cost batteries came into the market years ago. Your experiment was as scientifically objective as it could ever get conducted in a 'home environment'. Once again, thank you for a great job and for sharing such informative findings with us. Thank you thank you thank you.
It was far from scientific. He didn't even compare like with like. The Panasonics are Zinc. The Energiser are Lithium. The Duracells are represented twice.
Chris Clark I can see your point and what you said would be relevant if we are comparing which battery is better. I believe the objective here is to determine cost effectiveness of different batteries and the actual real life application on consumer behaviour purchasing batteries. So it wouldn't matter whether brand or material as long as it's cheaper. Just my 2 cents respectfully...
so many stupid people in the comment section saying it's unfair to compare lithium and alkaline He's not comparing battery types..... He's comparing cost efficiency.
Agreed. Absurd how many people seem to be personally insulted that their favorite battery chemistry might be unfairly compared. Now if they want to complain about something like the price he paid being not average rate, or the fact that he didn't rate all six fans, or that he didn't look at high vs low (is this medium??) drain usage, sure. Though he didn't claim this test would be comprehensive or contain enough tests to be statistically significant. He even said it wasn't scientific though I would say his approach was absolutely scientific, his testing and controls just weren't to the level where you could state results were fully verifiable. Kind of like the "Mythbusters" level of testing.
PANZERFAUST90 and cost efficiency is going to be blown out the window if you use 1.8V lithium batteries in electronics whose components are built to accept only 1.5V.
The Panasonic is a carbon zinc battery (aka "heavy duty") while the Sunbeam is an alkaline. Alkaline batteries perform better than carbon zinc ones, no matter what the brand.
The cheapest batteries I have ever bought were the yellow ones at Harbor Freight, I imagine they would be fine say, a kid wanted to play with a toy and the batteries were switched out as the kd played. Maybe over 8 hours of continuous play, switching out 4 batteries. But the Harbor Freight batteries much to my dismay, leaked, corroded, and just made a big mess when left in a wall clock.
I know you cannot do every battery out there, but I would have thought you would have done My go-to Amazon brand. My love exactly how you did this one. Thank you for sharing.
I really enjoyed this video. One of the variables that I wish I knew was how long ago were the different battery brands made prior to being sold. For example if the CVS battery just came out of the battery factory a week ago and was bought today vs the Energizer Lithium battery that might have been sitting in the retail store for 4 months before being purchased. Of course I’m assuming that battery’s slowly lose strength over time wether they are used or not.
You forgot to include Ray O Vac batteries to your test. Most of the US military uses Ray O Vac batteries, and they sell their batteries to store to place their own brand on, such as Walgreens, Dollar General...etc. I own a sound and lighting company, and I usually buy my AA and AAA alkaline batteries in a 20 pack for $6.00, for my wireless microphones, and other things. When it comes to items that do not have a "motor" to draw power from, you are usually better off buying the "generic" batteries I mentioned. I never use batteries more than 1 night for a 3-4 hour gig. When the batteries lose their voltage, the microphones will begin distorting. If I am doing all day concerts, I replace the batteries after 4 hours. Even replacing the batteries twice in one day, is cheaper than buying the super expensive brands.Consumers are paying for all their advertising, not because the batteries are light years better. You have to be careful with brands like Panasonic, because they are cheaply made in China, and do not last long....Peace!
Yes. You are correct. I personally have used Rayovac batteries and they are amazing. In fact, the 9v batteries from Rayovac are really good for smoke detectors as they have least self discharge.
I am a workimg musician that has active electronics in my bass (9v battery operated) and a wireless transmitter for most gigs. I have had other musicians tell me they only use Duracell because it's the best and they can "hear" the difference. I usually change the battery in my bass every 6 months (New Year's Eve and when the kids get out of school), and in my wireless every show to every three shows depending on the time on stage. I have found no real difference between my Ray o Vac watts than the Duracell except the price. Why would I spend $7 on a pack than $4?
I pay $1.25 for the 4 pack of Sunbeam batteries (AA or AAA) at Dollar Tree in Canada. They are especially great in TV or Sat. Remote Controls often working for more than a year before replacing. Also they have multi-year best before dates.
I'm sure they were all relatively new. The date isn't going to make a significant difference unless there are several months or more than a year apart. The age will be most noticable in the latter years of the battery's lifespan, so he would have to have some from over a year ago to really show which ones age better. He could buy a bunch now, and repeat the experiment in a year to find out.
@C Hansen yes: those are shelf-life dates NOT how long a battery can last, as this can be determined only depending on how and in what device we use them ... :-) btw, have seen any batteries with a shelf-life of 2037 in the market currently? (that's about 19 years!)
the guy did say he had to choose a small number, you can't test em all...the results were pretty much as expected... I use the dollar store ones for clocks, they last plenty long enough for a quarter!
My local Dollar store (Dollar Tree) has Sunbeams AA 8 pack for $1.00. So with your first round test, you'd have to divide the Sunbeam cost in half, making it $0.03/hour and the best value.
@@KineticWasEpicVideos I think you're right. Sunbeam makes the 4 pack of alkaline or the 8 pack of heavy duty. Both packs cost $1. I'd like to see how the cheap 8 pack ones work.
Alkaline batteries leak and destroy electronics, too. This isn’t at all uncommon. If you want to avoid damage from battery leakage, use either Energizer Lithium or NiMH rechargeables.
I’m in the army and carry an LED flashlight that uses AAA’s. Originally I was using Energizer lithiums but got tired of spending so much. Ultimately I found a steady supply of Energizer Industrial batteries the army uses. I found the performance was hardly noticeable. I carry a go bag for last minute missions. I keep lithiums in my go bag for a few reasons. Space is limited and so I want the most out of what I carry. Also lithiums weigh less than standard alkalines. It’s just enough that I noticed it when I handled them. Read up on it and it is preferred by backpackers because of the weight savings. Also they guarantee that the battery has a 10 year shelf life. So I can pack them away and have good faith they’ll be there and ready to go when I need them.
Toby Lerone, I use a streamlight stylus pro. Had a $20 gift card at Cabela’s and it was $25. Cheaper than buying it for $20 on Amazon. I’m in the U.S. Army. National Guard. No I haven’t killed anyone. That’s not something you ask people. I don’t know if you’re trolling me right now. I use the light as an EDC. Both at home while I’m civies and while on duty. I am an avionics mechanic for UH-60 and CH-47 helicopters. Currently serving in Iraq. I poke my head in a lot of dark holes and work on a pitch black flight line. I chose my light because wanted to have something that I could find batteries for almost anywhere. Whether that be army supply, gas station, drug store etc. it’s widely used around the globe. Rather than some obscure battery like a CR-123 that cost a fortune and hard to find. It’s like how people buy weapons in the states that are chambered in common rounds. Like 9mm and 5.56mm. What’s the point of owning a weapon that fires something like 7.62X25. You can’t go to Walmart and get that round. Also, I got this light because it is very bright but isn’t so bright it washes out what I’m looking at. I need to be able to read wire numbers and stuff. Battery life is 9-10 hours. I use it nearly everyday multiple times a day and have to replace batteries every 6-8 months. That’s using just energizer industrial I take from the army. I take what the army has to offer. Sure if the batteries are in my flashlight when I’m off duty, I’m stealing but I’m not taking handfuls of them. If I had a mission and had the ability to plan ahead. I would definitely pack lithiums instead of standard alkalines. As I stated before. It would be to save weight and carry fewer of them. With that said. I did score some energizer lithiums through the army supply chain but they’re used for aircraft clocks. I don’t want to be that guy who uses the good batteries used on aircraft for my flashlight. So they do exist but here in Iraq. Some items are hard to come by through supply and also, I’m a taxpayer too. If I get a reasonable 8 hours of service life from my regular AAA’s. It would be a waste if I got an extra 9-10 out of the lithiums. floyd2386, I had forgotten that I’ve heard that before. They perform better in cold weather. How about hot weather?
@@agentp6621 didn't realize we shouldn't ask soldiers if they killed anyone. Not like you've committed a crime or being maligned for it. Then again, I don't know the psychological hell you guys must absorb with no gratitude, recognition, or respect. Also, I have no idea what the rules are, but I don't think you should be paying out of pocket for gear you use for work. We're not paying $716 B a year for soldiers to pay for their own batteries. If you don't like the standard batteries they provide and need to buy your own, we, taxpayers, should cover it for you.
I can personally recommend the Sunbeam AAA batteries at 4 for a buck. Also the candy isle at a buck a pop is kinda mandatory, as long as your there anyways. Also check the code dates on some dat crap. I have got old turned to white chocolate candy at Dollar Tree more than once. Then I have to shoplift next time to get even. You understand.
Sunbeam also has the CR2032 button batteries at 2/1.00 and they kick ass. Next door to the Dollar Tree, the hardware store has the same type of button batteries at 2/6.00. They don't last 6 times as long, or even 2x as long.
One thing I appreciate about these battery tests is other than helping make a choice for value/hour type deal, it's about how I can improve my purchases to save from throwing out batteries and pollute. The energizer Lithium and Duracell Quantum may not be best bang for buck, but the big advantage is that you'll also throw way less of them to waste. Batteries and battery manufacturing is a big polluter.
What do you do with your free time? *test batteries*
What do I do with my free time? *watch people test batteries*
Yup, we're sadder than him.
but at least we didnt kill any batteries....
And we wasted way less time per hour;)
What do I do with my free time? Comment on a person who watches a person who tests batteries.....😖
@@johnnysapper And me? I'm replying to the guy who's commenting on the guy who....
I can imagine this guy off camera cheering the batteries on like his favorite sports team for the full 8 hours
Your name goes well with your comment lol
I prefer to watch the marble Olympics.
It's more fun than watching soccer.
8 hours for each round 😂
😂😂
Panasonic = carbon zinc
Duracell = alkaline
Energizer lithium = lithium
These have a different chemical make-up. Some are gonna perform better in high drain devices and others better in low drain devices.
Indeed, the results would probably be different with other kinds of devices.
PJ sivley
Yup pointless.
I was thinking of this, too, as I would think some of those batteries are better in high-drain devices (but I wouldn't have known about the chemical make-up that might be some additional differences to consider)
Thanks for bringing it up!
Yeah, using the heavy duty Panasonic batteries in this test wasn't really fair. Those types of batteries work much better in devices that don't have a light or a motor, like a pocket radio with an analog dial.
Absolutely right, it depends on the device too. You can take the dead batteries out of many higher drain devices, and put them in a lower drain device like a TV remote and they will still work for quite some time.
So Energizer is basically the best performer, but Sunbeam is the best in terms of value.
This test also tells me to avoid CVS brands.
V. HD see my comment above
Yeah CVS can stick it! Sunbeam best bang for the buck for sure.
potownrob I’m not digging down 8k comments just to find out what you said
Surprise the pharmacy version of anything is a poor value. Same would be true of gas stations or any other spot with atrocious markups.
Depends on what type of device you are using them for, but agreed, CVS brand sucks all the way around.
Man, I loved you on breaking bad :D
...I'll admit, that made me chuckle.
That is not him but I can see it
Heisenberg at it again with the blue batteries.
I was thinking about Half Life lol
Here, take your damn upvote.
I used to test household batteries professionally. I can tell you that your test does not support your conclusion, and that it does not analyze the batteries to their full potentials. In general the lithium batteries will outlast alkalines by a large margin, and nickel-metal hydrides (NiMH) by a comfortable but smaller margin. The main difference is the discharge slopes of each chemistry. For the alkalines and NiMH batteries the slope is kind of like an airplane landing, a slow gradual decline with maybe a few moments where it eases or accelerates until it dies. The lithium slope is drastically different, you get a slight drop at the start, then it holds steady until it reaches it's fully discharged point and drops as if going over a cliff.
Lithiums are intended to be used in "high-tech" devices such as digital cameras, not low-tech things like those fans. Get three digital cameras (or six) and test them by taking one flash photo every ten seconds with each chemistry, swapping the type of battery in each camera so that each is tested in each camera once. Be prepared to get VERY bored pressing the shutter button . . . and very amazed at the number of photos the lithium batteries take in comparison to the other chemistries.
Point being that a simple test like you ran does not paint an accurate picture of cost-effectiveness. I tested all brands and all chemistries, including rechargeables. I tested them "in device" and on test cabinets that could simulate any device including those which were not practical to test manually (you would never want to run a manual comparison using wireless video game controllers, we tried). And then there is the issue of shelf life, each chemistry has its own expectancy, which must be factored into any cost evaluation.
What a waste of time
John, thanks for taking the time to share that. Puts things in a whole new light. Merry Christmas.
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I was also wandering about shelf life. Thanks for sharing!
U have no life
@@whatzupperent.4036 Why, just because his interests differ from yours? LOL. Thank God for our differences, or our eternal life would surely be boring. :D
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I'm in awe imagining how you managed to monitor these little fans for so many hours straight, and so many rounds even! Thank you for your sacrifice, haha, this was quite informative.
I actually enjoyed this video. Not enough data to be entirely accurate, but on the right track.
'Panasonic' is a carbon-zinc battery, designed for "low current drain" devices. Of course they will die first in a "high current drain" device such as a fan (motors are "high drain" no matter how you look at it).
The 'energizer ultimate lithium' are designed for "super high current drain" devices, such as cameras and some very powerful flashlights (such as the ones with CREE L.E.D.s). That is why they lasted the longest in the fans. Good idea, but not an efficient use for an expensive battery.
All the others are 'alkaline' batteries, which are designed for "high current drain" (not to be confused with 'super high drain' that I mentioned earlier). These are the batteries designed for this purpose (fans, rc cars, and such).
Also, Lithium Primaries have a very flat drain line holding a very steady Voltage for a long time. Alkalines have a constant drop in voltage.
thank you!!
This is why I think Panasonic is a generic name
@@bernardfriedman532 Panasonic is actually a pretty major name brand. Back in the 90s growing up, we had a Panasonic TV and a Panasonic VHS camcorder. I think they're being cheap with their batteries though.
was about to mention drain rate as well, one more factor is shelf life/stability. Also vampiric drain which is when devices slowly drain batteries while on standby, this is why you should remove batteries for storage(also they tend to leak or corrode your device)
How many people are switching from Panasonic to Sunbeam at the dollar stores now?
by the time it slows down it might as well not be running [for a fan]
That’s hilarious lol
Me!
Not me, every pack I've ever bought was trash. Probably 50% no result. Not even in a remote control.
Well I could pick the Eveready 😋
How close were they to their expiration dates? That might affect it.
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oh, shit, dr shaym? dude, I love your videos
I was thinking the same. This test can end up being completely pointless if one battery pack is 2 years older than the other etc. They should all have close manufacturer dates.
But what is the odds that a store would have a pack on shelf for 2 years
@@mschari1484 working in a store who sells batteries I can tell you that could easily happen, depending on how often they sell and how many is ordered at a time. With the less common batteries we have had them expire in store a couple of times.
internet needs more videos like this
actually interesting and informative
I use Panasonics all the time. When they no longer work in remotes and wireless they will run clocks for months.
@Hersey Berry I save my dead xbox one controller batteries for the tv remote because of that reason. a battery that is too low for xbone controller will power a tv remote for like 6 months
Also they are good for pipe bomb timers.
One important distinction not made by the personperforming the test was that the Panasonic batteries used in the test were zinc-carbon batteries, the oldest and weakest consumer battery type on the market. All other batteries in the test were alkaline or lithium, which are much more advanced.
Panasonic does make alkaline batteries and Energizer does make carbon batteries under the Everready brand name. So in that respect, this wasn't an apples to apples comparison.
Panasonic aint cheap tho
I have seen both Panasonic types at dollar stores. So assuming you meant "cost" cheap, then sometimes they are. If you meant quality, yes.
Don’t even know why I watch these. I’m 15, just love watching you and your reviews.
You're never too young to learn how to spend your money wisely. I wish someone told me that when I was your age
It’s so good you are watching. It’s good to be educated.
Iwfusion I’m 15 too
Im 2 months old and watching this
@@ditc2103 I hope your diapers are battery-powered to tell your parents by blue-tooth when they get wet and need a change, young person.
This man just captivated me with batteries and 2 dollar fans for 12 minutes. You've earned this sub.
Well said
Never thought of it like that but... Also guilty.
I was a Panasonic buyer at the dollar store, I'm moving up to Sunbeam now, great demo.
@@scenicmyles I use the Sunbeam brand all the time. 👍 Definitely the best bang for the buck. They are alkaline while I believe the Panasonic brand is a heavy duty non-alkaline.
Ok, you're awesome. I'm guessing the reason for the drop in performance in the next few rounds was because the motors were running hot. Keep it up PLEASE! VERY entertaining and even thrilling.
You should compare rechargeable AA batteries.
The dollar store batteries are good for things like your remote for your TV.
By using a fibreglass pen to polish the device's and batteries' contacts, I had 2 low cost batteries last 4 extra months in a TV remote
eottoe2001 agreed. Perhaps energizer In flashlight especially for camping and things like that.
Or other low power devices (such as the Portals for the Skylanders 3DS games)
@@AirknightTails we had one of the first portals for the nintendo wii, they were so damn power hungry xD
@Tiamat: The 3DS Games (After SSA) you just scan the Toys once and it's unlocked in the game. As for the 3DS version of SSA. You don't keep the figure on the Portal constantly. You just scan once to store the Figure (up to two at a time) and only scan again for when you want to swap active characters
I'm my younger years I worked in a factory. Many times we simply switched labels (i.e. cheap to expensive and vise versa) and kept running the line. Some batteries were stored for so long the labels had to be removed and the batteries were relabeled with newly designed labels.
Exactly....Here's another example....Walmart sells milk and they sell Name Brand Dairy Milk too....
So where are the Walmart Cows??? LOL...If you don't think there's a label game going on I've got great land in Florida for sale...
I use to be in the imported food business. Caners would take the blank cans as we called Brights. Then they would label the cans according the amount sold to as company and then change the label to the other brand even though its the very same thing. So Jeffery I know just what you mean.
@@MrHans818 Exactly.
Same with bread, flip a switch and now the same bread in a different bag. My neighbor used to work on the railroad. He said that when tankers came in filled with antifreeze, they would put different colored dyes and each tanker.
Maybe, but it was not an Eveready factory, or even a Panasonic or Duracell for that matter. Also remember that this video was a apples to oranges comparison with all of the different battery types as well as brands.
I've been buying Energizers for about 10 years and I love the rechargeable ones too thanks for confirming my purchases ;-)
Those aren’t normal Energizer batteries, though, they’re lithium primary (non-rechargeable) cells, which is a better technology than alkaline, but also more expensive.
I used rechargeable batteries for a while years back. They were great for my CD player.
*Xbox controller wants to know your location*
sAvAƨ・サヴァス I have a Xbox one s and a Xbox one s controller and I use Duracell on my xbox one controller
@@Jwoshie get a recharge pair or the 'play and charge kit' it would help you save a lot of money i used duracells but they only lasted my a week on 2 pairs
sAvAƨ・サヴァス Come over to the PlayStation side we have rechargeable batteries
@@thc8877 Both do
Dildo.....opps I mean ditto 😅🤙
I thought this was a well done thought experiment, I don't have anything negative to say, but I will say that I have seen some other battery comparison studies, and some batteries (like lithium) don't last much longer in regular applications like a TV remote, but in high drain applications like a digital camera they dominate regular nickel batteries. So the take away from that is there are different types of battery applications that certain battery types Excel in, but other types that make little difference whatsoever. Well made video.
Imo it was done purely for entertainment. I would have liked to see capacitance of those batteries, better do it myself with my electronic load. Can set with different levels of discharge.
Exactly. It highly depends on the application what battery type to choose. If you think you are clever with putting rechargeable batteries into a tv remote... you dont know anything about self discharge.
Yes this "test" is only for entertainment, it only show the result for one application of power drainage from battery's, low drainage, medium drainage and high drainage application will show different results.
You have to chose battery type that suit for you application, there is no battery that fits into all applications.
The age of the batteries wasn't considered.
BTW, this is not a thought experiment ; this is a real experiment with real material.
I think you missed a huge opportunity here. I wonder if the fans spin at different RPM’s, and how long does the fan blow at top speed?
For example, lithium generally keeps its voltage constant all the way until it dies. Alkaline voltage drops as the battery drains, as you can see with the fans slowing down. So part of the cost calculation should be how long the fan is still fast enough to offer a proper airflow. Because if it’s spinning too slow, even if lasts for another hour, it’s not really useful anymore.
You wouldn’t happen to have some kind of way to measure RPM, or maybe airflow?
Soylent green, you bring up a good point. Like I posted earlier, I'm going to stick with Duracell, I've had good luck with them.
Soylent Green is good people.
Agree, this does not test the amount of work being performed just the duration, but not a terrible test anyway.
I see your point but it really doesn´t matter, which is the criteria as far as it stays the same, and when/if the fans are matched or you sample many fans or many batteries the results are going to be consistent. In fact, it might sound counter intuitive but, what you are proposing for testing induces another fault condition in the test and that´s the sensor.
Totally unscientific test, especially adding a single lithium with different discharge characteristics.
I appreciate your effort. Quality information.
I have found that re-chargeable Energizers are the best.. ya buy em 1 time, and you can charge them 500 to 700 times and they last just as long on the last charge as they do on the first charge, when they fail, it's very quick.. like a li-ion battery.. but.. cost wise.. you cannot beat re-chargeables. The cost of the energy to re-charge a battery is soooo much less than buying a new battery. :)
I tried this but short of inspecting trash and hitting people (family of 5 three teenagers)... I'm not sure on how to get folks to stop throwing the batteries away. THEY ARE COLORED GREEN!! I even asked that no battery go in the trash before inspection, at this point everyone in the house was tired of being scolded about batteries. No one fesses up, but I buy them a significant number of them never return to the charger. I also discovered that goodwill gets a bunch after xmas.
What did you think of Eneloop Pro's? (My favourite for rechargeables)
@@andrewmason4004 I never tried them, actually I've never seen them.. I can find them online and give em a try. All I see in the stores around me is energizer and Duracell.
I come from an RC background so know lots about batteries. You need a ''peak detector'' and LiPo4 batteries to make recharging viable. Otherwise I go for quality Alkalines. If you are in the field with no 240VAC etc. then you are relying on 12VDC and you need top quality electronic battery charger that is in the hundred of dollars range to make it all work. Alkaline''s are cheap and slowly discharge. Where as Recharges dies almost instantly..
@@bicanoo_magic3452 ok.. awesome.. but wait.. what about good ol 120 ac.. I do not have 240, and the only 12dc is my scooter.. lol
That Panasonic battery was clearly a paid actor.
Not really... Zinc batteries are pretty terrible no matter the manufacturer, no matter the "unscientific" method he used with the fans to measure duration (although a large sample is always the cure for that) he should have compared same chemistry batteries. Alkaline batteries and Zinc batteries are two totally different beasts on their own.
@@TrickyNekro criteria was price vs duration in a pretty high load (motor) scenario; towards the end of video there is some talk about which battery is better if you dont want to swap often vs long lasting ones
@@alerey4363 I´ve watched the whole thing don´t worry. Pricing can vary heavily on where you buy your stuff, so... meh?! Was the load "heavy"? Well If the whole video is to be believed and the Energizer Lithium Datasheet also to be believe, for both of which I do not have a reason to have a doubt, the load on the batteries should have been around 500mA, which for some batteries might be no problem, again from the Energizer datasheet we get that maximum continues output for that batteries is 2.5A, and for some others not so great. Still there are more point to be made. Carbon Zinc batteries have a shelf life of about 3 years. Alkaline batteries on the other hand go to usually 10 years, with the energizers claiming, if I remember correctly 20 years. Somewhere I might have seen that the panasonic ones were discontinued in North America. So if the guy really lives in North America, which I have not checked, who knows how old these batteries actually are? Do you see where I am getting? Plot holes everywhere, even for the price factor. Yeah, the video is catchy and not badly made as a video and sure as hell it´s painful to test for long hours, I know that very well, but... Chemistry does matter. The fan scenario is a pretty niece scenario also, biggest percentage of people using batteries are for TV remotes, which again is a another current draw scenario (High pulsed current with long shelf life in between). So mate, spare me the dick licking for the creator, it´s not a bad video, but people should be made aware that plot holes exist and there are more than meets the eye in this case.
The comments to this were not what I was expecting lol
Panasonic batteries were general purpose carbon batteries not alkaline
I buy rechargeable batteries - loads cheaper in the long run , & more friendly to the environment.
What is "Special" about buying cheap rechargeable batteries on ebay, instead of buying Duracell etc. & then throwing them away ???? Where I live it's called common sense !
At a boy
@Thomas Headley LOL
@Thomas Headley I found the libtard snowflake! Knew you were here, "Head"ley. So gay.
for consistent use of an item, such as flashlight, rechargeable is the way to go. For intermittent or one off use disposable is the way to go. All have their place. For storage, Rechargeables lose their charge in a month or so. Not suitable for emergency flashlight, or smoke detector.
I'm consistently impressed with the rigor with which you conduct your reviews
Awesome. I wanted to know this. I've been wondering the $ store ones. I will stay away from CVS brand. Thanks 👍
Seems like anything from CVS, not just their brand name, is most expensive in my area
If you can get them I recommend the Kirkland signature they're Duracell but lower cost and more in a packet
But Kirkland is Costco's store brand so you need a membership or need to know someone with a membership
Paivi Project the dollar general brand isnt half bad the green and yellow ones
its daft to spend £1 per battery thats non recharge ! just buy amazon basics cells recharge them like 1000 times
I just imagine you sat there in 8 hour intervals watching fans.
no he came back every 30 mins sometimes every hour to take a look, you can tell from the numbers, also when he sees one of them is slow he waits for it to die
@@JaDo426 nope. he stayed there for 8 hours.
what if the fans stopped when he was away??
@@RockNRoll__ wanna bet it wasnt 8 hours straight? I'm sure there was a specific frequency of minutes he would check in on them either every 30 mns or every 15. He did not stay for 8 hours, 4 times..
or he did something else, with the fans in the meanwhile staying in his vieuw
@@menofwar-os1wi You KNOW what he was doing while watching his fans slow down, right? Cooking more eggs !!! ;-)
Should have done a control run on the fans with all of them on one brand.
juan gonzalez Agreed
They look all the same just different colors hmm
Wouldn't really matter, even batteries from the exact same pack can have varying capacities, the only fair way to compare them is to put a constant current load on them and monitor the power drawn.
If you want an example of how to properly compare batteries take a look at this: th-cam.com/video/846m-boWB64/w-d-xo.html
vgamesx1 Exactly. If that variable didn't exist, this would be a good idea.
Or just done two more runs so every battery was tested with every fan.
This is fantastic data! Yeah, sometimes time served is the issue, and other times, you don't mind swapping out often, if you're paying significantly less. For some things, I would definitely buy the Sunbeam (I keep picturing bread, for some reason. Is it actually the same brand?), and for others, I'd definitely go with the Energizer, because some things simply NEED to run uninterrupted.
I'm just falling in love with this channel! Even if I have no interest in shopping, the reviews, themselves, are so highly enjoyable to me. Keep up the good work!
Anyone else wake up and immediately watch a 12 minute video on batteries? Great job as always James!
Woke up, eating a hot Pocket and watching a well made video comparing batteries lol.
I’m watching this before bed.
all those likes you got say yes LOL at least we're not alone
Eating a butter croissant and watching this
Literally just woke up, still in bed, and watched the video. 😂 Now I have to get up and go to work. 😭
Got my snacks and i'm ready to watch, Hell yeah!!
How could someone dislike this. Its so incredibly detailed.
Haters will always hate.
The people who disliked work for Panasonic :P
I think "dislike" means "dear algorithm, please do not recommend such a video to me".
I dislike great made video on topics I don't like to see as recommendations.
It's bit weird to say this incredibly detailed when only thing what he said about those batteries was that they were AA batteries. Nothing about mAH or type of them or anything.
This is _far_ from being any form of reliable test, for there are way too many variables. How have the batteries been stored (e.g. at which temperature)? Were they all produced at the same time? Why did he use batteries only from the respective same package and not from different production samples? Why did he not open the batteries (a thing only to be done by professionals of course) to check any differences in manufacturing quality and chemical composition?
The biggest value this video has is its entertainment value, which for me has to to with somebody really watching batteries drain for a couple of days. Wow.
This was an excellent video blog. I live in a very remote section of the Mojave Desert in Southern California, and although I am on the grid, I still use a lot of battery powered things. It's paid me over and over to have a couple of cheap flashlights in the house, in my cars, in the garage, etc--you get my drift. I stock up on the dirt cheap Sunbeams at the dollar store each time I drive the thirty miles into the nearest small town. There are side winders all over the place during the hot summer nights, and as my old grandmother would pound into my head back in the day, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." Thank you for the time, energy, and skill, it took you to put up the video.
I remember one time using those sunbeams in my digital camera it took one picture and that was the end
You should use NiMH with digital cameras.
Yeah what you're using battery for makes huge difference. Sunbeam if fine for your TV remote, die fast in your game controller.
Digital camera flashes are a high load for a battery. Cheap batteries can handle the large instantaneous drain from the flash! They just don't recover like a lithium battery. Many digital cameras require you to use lithium batteries!
I think this would make a great sequel... Set a manual exposure with flash and see just how many images it can make before the batteries go kaput.
Lmao
This was a superbly executed experiment. I always wondered if the dollar store batteries were good value.
yea top notch test mate!
Yeah. When he switched around the fans you knew this guy knew what he was doing!
Just make sure they are Alkaline.
@@Mr.56Goldtop why is that
well i would counter that by saying that constant use with a fan motor is really a very narrow application -better to run trials comparing intermittent use and other kinds of applications
Is nobody else wondering how this guy sat there and watched these fans for 7 hours straight?
x 4
Lsd
I wondered the same thing.. hanging around for hours a time watching these fans spin.. Well thanks for time spent and the results!
It's for science.
Before this started, I was thinking he would have a device with e-ink so if they die, they keep the time at whatever time they died. Would have been easier anyway but maybe it's not available, tried and true time spending is always the easiest if not the most time efficient.
This is awesome, thank you! - For many years I always thought Energizers felt they lasted longer.. this video confirms it!
The Panasonic is carbon based where all the other are alkaline. You should have mentioned that. For low power, sporadic application, like remote control, they are perfect. You basically tested them with the worse possible scenario. Also, Panasonic do have an alkaline version you should test.
ok Panasonic employee, calm down
This is an interesting comparison. I also tend to use cheaper generics in low-power situations too. Anyone remember how your batteries would always die in your first digital cameras!! Lol.. before rechargeable lithium batteries took over.... before smartphones took over alltogether...
I use it for my home phone and I barely ever switch batteries
Energizer are lithium
Yep. Any battery labeled with "Heavy Duty" is usually non-alkaline stuff. And is only good for low power applications...which this test isn't. For something like a TV remote, all these batteries would probably last the same amount of time.
I’m at work and I just got yelled at by my boss. I told him I was learning about what are the best batteries to power basic appliances. He’s making me stay late today...
At least I know which kind of batteries I should put in my TV remote from now on. Worth it.
This is why other countries are beating us at production in the workplace..
Guitarfollower22 I gave you a thumbs down for not being a better employee.
Your boss sucks
Damn y’all still watch TV?
@Element 5thD This is terrible for The ps4 controller, always charge it directly on The console
No rayovac battery? They're everywhere and cost less than Duracell and energizer.
gwen p never heard of those
Yeah, that would be nice. They are kind of the "high end" cheap batteries.
I was surprised not to see them in the running as well. Seem to remember an old consumer report ( before TH-cam) where heavy duty rayovacs outperformed Duracell alkaline. Still ‘thumbs up!’
Ikea alkaline batteries are generally tested as the most cost effective batteries you can get, whereas Energizer ultimate lithium are the best at any cost.
grumpy old fart they're made in the USA as well.
I think I would've used a volt meter to check the initial voltage of the batteries. Also I think the lithium may have an unfair advantage over the rest. I wouldn't mind seeing just a lithium vs lithium test! And maybe a fan and LED light test? Sounds like a lot of work though! Great video!
Well it's good that you're thinking of ways to improve the testing method, but that's the wrong way to go about it, probing AA cells without any load on them gives you no information, even a dead cell can climb all the way back up to over 1V but it's still dead.
If you want a detailed explanation check out EEVBlog, here's one talking about: th-cam.com/video/b_eictfFUao/w-d-xo.html or look for his videos on the Batteriser.
i would watch that
ya the Panasonic ones were the cheap carbon zinc ones not alkaline.
I thought Panasonic was a name brand battery like Energizer and Duracell
SundaeTea it is
I think Panasonic is know for its big electrics [TV's, stereos] and maybe doesn't focus on small batteries. Kind of like, how Sony is know for its big electrics [TV's, stereos, headphones] and doesn't focus on its movies.
Panasonic owns Sanyo and the premium rechargable battery brand, Eneloop. They also make most of the cells used in powerbanks like Anker and electric vehicles like Tesla. They're known to make the best batteries together with LG, Samsung, Toshiba and Hitachi. Sony also used to make batteries but, I heard AvE talk about Sony leaving this market due to liability issues associated with these products.
Panasonic is a known brand, but I know their AA batteries are "cheap". That said, as the video mentions, they can give good value depending on the application.
it's not that panasonic makes bad batteries (if they even produce them, it's more likely they've just liscensed them). the life cycle of a battery depends on it's chemical composition, the designations of aa, aaa, c, and d only refer to the physical size of the battery (if you look at the voltage of your standard battery you'll see 1.5v compared to a rechargeable battery of the same size which tends to be either slightly lower or higher). the reason they crapped out so quickly is because they're "heavy duty" (zinc) batteries. despite their name, they have pretty shitty capacity and are most suited for low current and short use time applications like remotes where the circuit is only activated during a button press or something similar. the others (obviously excluding the lithium) where all alkaline batteries which has a much larger capacity and, therefore, lasts longer and are better suited for higher current / steady use time applications than their paradoxically named counterparts.
you kids today, i swear, this was common knowledge when the walkman, and later the discman, ruled the roost of portable music :P
Yo this dude Cypher from the Matrix
The steak wasn't worth it.
Ignorance is bliss.. 😇
Samuel Dix No, we are now in the Matrix
I was thinking breaking bad but he lost his glasses
Samuel Dix he hacked into the fabric of our illusory reality to bring advanced knowlege regarding power cells
I wonder how rechargeable batteries would stack up in terms of length/price (given that they do have a limited amount of charge cycles).
Akkumulators are certainly better when you count in waste production.
Not sure how far ahead they come out if you count the recharge device into the cost. The first batch might not be a winner when it you do so.
Rechargeable would smoke these, even if you buy a charger and charge them in Hawaii at $0.28 per kWh. You can recharge at least 500 times so if you spent $15 on a 4 pack that is less than a penny per use.
Manufacturers provide datasheets for batteries. Just google.
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@@paulna5526 rechargeable batteries do not use alkaline though
The Panasonic were labeled as "Heavy Duty" and not Alkaline. These will always be shit batteries. On the flip side, Lithium batteries have a different drain curve than Alkaline. They output full power for longer, then drop off VERY steeply. This means the device they're used in could have an enormous impact on the results.
I was gonna say test lithium in the cheaper and expensive brands.
I use AAA batteries in my insulin pump, and alkaline Panasonic are the worst batteries I have ever put in there. It shows low power warning right after replacement, which typically means you should replace within 24 hours. Ones made by more reputable manufacturers last for weeks. Stay away from Panasonic's batteries.
Vengirni I use Panasonic to do unimportant things like for video game controllers sometimes. They are cheap, but at least they work. I bought Dollar General brand batteries from that store once and as soon as I took them out of the package and put them in an Xbox 360 controller, they didn't have enough power to even use at all. The Panasonic at least could be used for a few hours.
@@TortureBot just buy a charge pack for your controller
@@TortureBot I had similar results in my xBox One controller (AAx2) and Turtle Beach headphones (AAAx2). The Panasonics last about 10 hours in my headphones and 24 hours in my controller. The Duracell and Energizers last about 2 days and 6 days respectively. I have been using the Sunbeams lately for both as my Dollar tree sells 8 of AA and AAA for 1 dollar each pkg. The Sunbeams last about 24 hours in my headphones and 2 days in my controller. I think powering electronic devices are less stressful on batteries than driving motors even though the headphones drive the wireless transmitter and the vibrate motor intermittently in the controller. I have tons of rechargeables but the disposables out-perform because the constant recharging kills the rechargeables after a few weeks - not as cost effective for my use.
Kane! Great to see you. Always wondered what happened to him after all the trouble with The Brotherhood of Nod.
I've been using the Sunbeam Alkaline AA and AAA batteries from Dollar Tree in my TV remotes, wall clocks and game controllers for the past 8 years. For cheap $1 batteries they hold up surprisingly well in electronic devices. (PS do not buy any battery branded "Super Heavy Duty" or one that mentions carbon-zinc. They are all crap!) If you do another comparison, how about testing Ray-O-Vac, Panasonic Alkaline (they sell these at my local Dollar Trees in 2 or 3 packs), Maxell, the Non-lithium Energizers, and store brands like Walgreens, Members Mark from Sam's Club and Kirkland from Costco.
That is IMO the best. Use cheap alkalines for remotes etc. where the batteries last 6 months to two years. If you then have something where it lasts days or weeks, use rechargeables.
@John Smith I might give them a try. I've seen them at Dollar Tree but never bought them.
Hi,
I use the sunbeam alkaline "aa" and "aaa" batteries in all my energizer headlamp flashlights, and all my led work lights.
They perform quite well and don't hurt the bank.
Most of my light's use between two and three batteries per device.
My uses are for hiking, camping, fishing, auto repair, home repair, soldering electronics and working on computers.
The "Dollar Tree (brand)" sunbeam "aa" alkaline batteries shown in this video (and their little cousins - "aaa" alkaline batteries) have been my "go to" battery for several years.
Personally, I recommend these to everyone I know and I recommend them in my review videos.
Sincerely,
Jacob
SurvivalGeek (TH-cam)
th-cam.com/channels/fRsUPToBXp4ZIre__dJg4A.html
There's a rumor Kirkland batteries are actually made by Duracell.
I have to agree I use them for my 5 and 3 year old sons toys and they have a lot of toys I go to dollar tree spend $10 on batteries and dont have to buy more for like a month! If u ask me u can spend 2$ on two packs of sunbeams and get the same performance as the Energizers at half the cost only difference is that you have to swap them out
Something I never knew that I needed to know. Great video, very informative!!!
I guess the Bunny keeps going and going and going!
www.linkedin.com/pulse/all-batteries-same-larry-bressler
@@paulna5526 This right here. But one thing not mentioned in that article: the amount of charge in a battery diminishes over time. So a set of recently manufactured batteries will work longer than a set that has been on the shelf a long time. Look for an expiration date on the batteries. Off- brand batteries might not sell as quickly, so look for the date!
Duracell actually has had a bunny maskot longer than Energizer, but Energizer trademarked it in the US, so duracell cant show it here. They use it in china and stuff though.
...unless you put the batteries in backwards. Then the Bunny keeps coming and coming and coming.
Ted E. Which is illustrated by the sheer number of bunnies we're seeing....
Thanks for the info provided, it was useful. Might have been even more useful if you'd tried each battery in 2 or 3 different types of devices - one low-drain, one high-drain, and maybe one intermittent-duty (e.g., switch on for 5 sec, off for 5 minutes, & repeat). This would have made for a much, much longer test, however.
Sucks you had to redo the video. Liked the format of it. Wow, you really put time into these reviews. Thanks for sharing😃
I think you should have put the harbor freight free batteries in the cheap batteries group.
I agree, I've had some last an incredible amount of time in devices like my multimeter, without leaking like Duracell did in the same device.
I have seen them leak in the store when considering trying them in my blackout lights,Colman battery LED lanterns 0n a low setting that can go 20 hours on 4 size D NI-MH 1.2 v .2800 mAh Energizers but with no power to recharge I was looking for a cheap one that could go a few days in a power blackout. i need about 20 to run 4 lanterns.
Antonio Nunez 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You could always run the test yourself.
And I recharge all my Harbor Freight free batteries.
Ah yes, a new Freakin' Reviews video. Christmas already coming early!
I always go with energizers. Duracell leak and corrode. Why don't you try energizer
Max batteries middle of the road priced?
Cvs batteries always leaks even when stored and not used
Why are you people replying to this comment if your not going to talk about it? You could just leave your "own" comment...just a suggestion. BTW Drachen, yes his videos are like Christmas!
Christmas because you will need batteries? Or Christmas because you love review videos?
@@loubob21 well both, but more so his review videos. ; )
I used a LOT of those Panasonic batteries growing up. They may not have much capacity, but they're still really affordable, as is seen.
But the amount of toxic waste it will create. The best choice would be sunbeam, so cheap and most efficient
@@AoptimisticNihilist Gee, thanks for replying to a 4 year old comment.
so when cypher from the matrix took the Other pill from the matrix, this is what he ended up doing in his free time?
I feel terrible at how thoroughly entertained I was by this.
This is the best comment on TH-cam.
What a shame so few people got the joke!
And eat Steak ..obviously...
He was suppose to be Ronald Reagan 🤔
I use the ultra lithium batteries for important and sensitive things like laser meaning tools and infrared thermometers, but I use the discount Kirkland Costco batteries for pretty much everything else.
When I could get to Costco Kirkland was my go to cheapies
Also the Lithiums are better for things like emergency flashlights since they hold their shelf life much longer.
@@TheNiteNinja19 And, they don't leak!
Looks like Mr. White moved to Idaho and started a TH-cam Channel
I was thinking more Kane from Command and Conquer
Nice! 😏
I dont not trust this guy, he sell the location of Neo and his team
I'm a science teacher and I'm reading a science fair report right now. The student was inspired by your video and basically recreated your experiment to test different batteries (he cited your video in his background research and bibliography).
I just thought it was cool because I watch all of your reviews, and one of my students randomly stumbled upon this video and used it as inspiration.
Battery leakage is an additional issue for me, and a good number of my components have been opened only to find the tell tale green residue, that tells me there has been a battery compromise. All have been Duracell's, the black and gold ones. This coupled with the fact that at the Dollar Tree, I can get eight AA Sunbeams for one dollar, has me buying the cheap over the expensive. So far, I have not had a single leak with the Sunbeams. Whether this is because of the higher turn over rate on the Sunbeams, or that they just do not leak - I do not know. As a nod to Duracell, they are ready to refund the price of their batteries, if the leaky batteries are sent back to them. I did this once, then kind of gave up after that. This is just my personal experience. Thanks James, for the test.
You aren't the only one who has seen that. Duracells used to not leak at all, even after dying. Now, they start leaking BEFORE they quit working. This phenomenon helped me ruin a perfectly good Maglite LED flashlight. GRRRRR! Guess what batteries I'm not buying anymore. :(
I agree, leaking batteries is my ultimate problem, who cares how much a battery is when your electronics go down in a blob of corrosive green goo! Duracell's are not any better they just factor into the cost of business - warranty claims. CVS's have been my worst leakers of all, remove from device everytime your finished to avoid the goo of death. CVS batteries however, with coupons and BOGO's can cost as little as a quarter of regular Duracell's making them a bargain if bought at the right sale.
@@dr.a.w LOL. The one time I sent the batteries back to Duracell, it was batteries that leaked BEFORE they were used. It was the single row, flat pack of 12 double A's. I found to my dismay, in the middle of the pack was a battery that had leaked and grew that acid fuzz around the contact. In sending the whole pack back, the shipping was probably equal to the cost of the battery pack. The experience left me a little sour over name brand batteries, unfortunately.
Yeah I've had the same problem with Duracells, thought maybe it was just me.
That's crazy!
My experience has been exactly opposite, the Sunbeams have always caused an issue but never the Duracell and even the Panasonics have done well.
Interesting video... I would’ve bought Panasonic thinking it’s better than sunbeam
The Panasonics are not Alkaline though. I have had good use with the Sunbeams. I watch cheap batteries closely to make sure to get alkalines.
@@creakycracker exactly. no one has mentioned this. the guy in the video just gives terrible advice - telling people to look for "high drain" marketing wank. just look for alkaline batteries. they will likely be your best value
I would not categorize CVS batteries as "cheap," they are more like convenience batteries. Almost everything at CVS is overpriced. CVS counts on people needing addition things when they buy medicine and they charge a premium for those products. It is good that you removed it from the dollar cost average.
Boy are you correct!!! Why do you think I'm always getting their 20-40% off on-line coupons by email.
It's not just CVS, all drug stores sell other things for the same reason. The pharmacy is usually in a back corner somewhere so you'll need to walk through their aisles starting with every day needs like soaps, toothpaste, shampoos, being a straight shot from the main doors.
I don't know where you live but there are fairly good buys at CVS stores in my area. They often run specials and sales offering 50% or more off of most household items.
I haven't been to either place in a while. Is CVS still printing out 8ft long receipts?
@Mike Smith hi by
Thank you for all the effort you put into this video for us. It is appreciated.
This was fun great job
no it wasn't a great job, it was a terrible job.
9:54 Start here
J Shepard thank you!
I'd pin that
Thanks
No. The whole video was interesting
The best alkaline battery for the money you can get is form Ikea. It costs $2.29 for 10 of them which is one of the cheapest prices per battery you can get, and they are also some of the longest lasting.
Ron Ramen in the UK we have Poundland
U can get 14 Panasonic lithium ion batteries for £1
@@flamixflame2685 bollocks, really, im on it mate, thanks,
No costco. Ikea rechargable are very good though
Those sweeds. I would get them, but I hate putting them together. Seems I'm always missing a part, or weird lockscrew. And I hate it when charge doesn't fit in the charge hole.
Everything is more expensive at CVS.
Fr. CVS upcharges everything to an extreme
A test like this has been way overdue and here it has been finally done by Freakin' Reviews! Thank you for this awesome and thorough test! I always wondered if the batteries advertised as being more powerful (and more expensive) for cameras and high tech things were really more powerful and it seems they are. It doesn't matter as much to the young people whose things all recharge from their computers but for people like me with battery charged things I'm really grateful for your test. Especially before Christmas (Batteries Not Included) lol.
I use the sunbeam brand batteries on my wireless keyboard and they are from the dollar store. And my keyboard doesn’t need new batteries for six months . But my wireless mouse, I have to change every sixty days. Another great review Mr. White.
I would go mad changing mouse batteries every 6 days. For my wireless mouse I have to change batteries twice a year maybe.
i think he said 60
@@maximillian-green my bad xd
I said sixty days guys
The dollar store batteries (like the panasonic and sunbeam) are for low drain devices. They say this on the packaging. That means things like remote controls, not flashlights or computer mice (it has a laser to power)
Can you do one with Costco’s brand Kirkland, Sams club brand Members mark and Amazon’s brand Amazon Basics vs the big name brands? Most people have memberships to at least 1 of those 3 if not all 3 of those places
grizzlydave I love that idea
Yes, please.
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Key is finding who makes these batteries, these are probably just rebranding the ones tested (missing the Ray o Vac).
Add ACDelcos from Amazon, too. And Kirklands leak, hence they are negative value.
Very interesting, it'd be interesting to see other things, as well, such as whether the batteries retain charge while they're not being used, or how consistent the power output is.
the cheap ones also create more waste.
zachary paris yes and no. because they are recycle able and can be broken down and their components reused.
Let me guess, you believe in that global warming stuff too, right?
Tree hugger
If thats is a concern you would be buying rechargables.
Disposables are so stupid to buy anymore
@@stoneblue1795 He propably does. Because the global warming stuff is undeniably true.
Thank you for providing answers to the exact question that has been haunting me ever since the 'low-renter' budget cost batteries came into the market years ago. Your experiment was as scientifically objective as it could ever get conducted in a 'home environment'.
Once again, thank you for a great job and for sharing such informative findings with us. Thank you thank you thank you.
It was far from scientific. He didn't even compare like with like.
The Panasonics are Zinc.
The Energiser are Lithium.
The Duracells are represented twice.
Chris Clark I can see your point and what you said would be relevant if we are comparing which battery is better. I believe the objective here is to determine cost effectiveness of different batteries and the actual real life application on consumer behaviour purchasing batteries. So it wouldn't matter whether brand or material as long as it's cheaper. Just my 2 cents respectfully...
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Man, this is so thorough. I’m less concerned about the batteries and more just impressed by your organization and methodology.
so many stupid people in the comment section saying it's unfair to compare lithium and alkaline
He's not comparing battery types.....
He's comparing cost efficiency.
Agreed. Absurd how many people seem to be personally insulted that their favorite battery chemistry might be unfairly compared.
Now if they want to complain about something like the price he paid being not average rate, or the fact that he didn't rate all six fans, or that he didn't look at high vs low (is this medium??) drain usage, sure. Though he didn't claim this test would be comprehensive or contain enough tests to be statistically significant. He even said it wasn't scientific though I would say his approach was absolutely scientific, his testing and controls just weren't to the level where you could state results were fully verifiable. Kind of like the "Mythbusters" level of testing.
PANZERFAUST90 and cost efficiency is going to be blown out the window if you use 1.8V lithium batteries in electronics whose components are built to accept only 1.5V.
subed you since you spent 4 days watching fans blow
No more CALLING JUSTIN BEAVER AT 3AM (HE CAME) (COPS CALLED) ( IN THE HOOD)
@@weedeater3801 ???????
Watching his #1 fans blow him
Interesting!! Thought Panasonic would perform better than Sunbeam coz it's a more well known brand. Great video!!
The Panasonic is a carbon zinc battery (aka "heavy duty") while the Sunbeam is an alkaline. Alkaline batteries perform better than carbon zinc ones, no matter what the brand.
Yeah, that's why those cheap ass Panasonic ones are typically the brand of "included" batteries [ I.e., when batteries come with the device ].
I always thought the same. They even look cheaper than the Panasonic Black and Blue.
The cheapest batteries I have ever bought were the yellow ones at Harbor Freight, I imagine they would be fine say, a kid wanted to play with a toy and the batteries were switched out as the kd played. Maybe over 8 hours of continuous play, switching out 4 batteries. But the Harbor Freight batteries much to my dismay, leaked, corroded, and just made a big mess when left in a wall clock.
I know you cannot do every battery out there, but I would have thought you would have done My go-to Amazon brand. My love exactly how you did this one. Thank you for sharing.
I really enjoyed this video. One of the variables that I wish I knew was how long ago were the different battery brands made prior to being sold. For example if the CVS battery just came out of the battery factory a week ago and was bought today vs the Energizer Lithium battery that might have been sitting in the retail store for 4 months before being purchased. Of course I’m assuming that battery’s slowly lose strength over time wether they are used or not.
Nathan Struthers good point
You forgot to include Ray O Vac batteries to your test. Most of the US military uses Ray O Vac batteries, and they sell their batteries to store to place their own brand on, such as Walgreens, Dollar General...etc. I own a sound and lighting company, and I usually buy my AA and AAA alkaline batteries in a 20 pack for $6.00, for my wireless microphones, and other things. When it comes to items that do not have a "motor" to draw power from, you are usually better off buying the "generic" batteries I mentioned. I never use batteries more than 1 night for a 3-4 hour gig. When the batteries lose their voltage, the microphones will begin distorting. If I am doing all day concerts, I replace the batteries after 4 hours. Even replacing the batteries twice in one day, is cheaper than buying the super expensive brands.Consumers are paying for all their advertising, not because the batteries are light years better. You have to be careful with brands like Panasonic, because they are cheaply made in China, and do not last long....Peace!
Yes. You are correct. I personally have used Rayovac batteries and they are amazing. In fact, the 9v batteries from Rayovac are really good for smoke detectors as they have least self discharge.
I am a workimg musician that has active electronics in my bass (9v battery operated) and a wireless transmitter for most gigs. I have had other musicians tell me they only use Duracell because it's the best and they can "hear" the difference. I usually change the battery in my bass every 6 months (New Year's Eve and when the kids get out of school), and in my wireless every show to every three shows depending on the time on stage.
I have found no real difference between my Ray o Vac watts than the Duracell except the price.
Why would I spend $7 on a pack than $4?
Do you also look at the expiration date?
I pay $1.25 for the 4 pack of Sunbeam batteries (AA or AAA) at Dollar Tree in Canada. They are especially great in TV or Sat. Remote Controls often working for more than a year before replacing. Also they have multi-year best before dates.
Did you pay attention to the dates on all the batteries? This makes a HUGE difference.
I'm sure they were all relatively new. The date isn't going to make a significant difference unless there are several months or more than a year apart. The age will be most noticable in the latter years of the battery's lifespan, so he would have to have some from over a year ago to really show which ones age better.
He could buy a bunch now, and repeat the experiment in a year to find out.
@C Hansen yes: those are shelf-life dates NOT how long a battery can last, as this can be determined only depending on how and in what device we use them ... :-) btw, have seen any batteries with a shelf-life of 2037 in the market currently? (that's about 19 years!)
the guy did say he had to choose a small number, you can't test em all...the results were pretty much as expected... I use the dollar store ones for clocks, they last plenty long enough for a quarter!
I must agree. Dollar store batteries with a few years shelf life left will still beat expensive ones with dates only a few months out.
Heisenberg? Is that you?
Its james white not walter white
Yes
Hahahahaja
Yes it is him. Batteries are used to make meth. He wanted only the best for his sky blue concoction.
Lemms oh
To do a really fair test instead of fans you need to use 6 Energizer Bunnies!
There'd be bias in favor of Energizer, of course. Nope!
This may have been the most useful video I have ever watched. Thank you!
My local Dollar store (Dollar Tree) has Sunbeams AA 8 pack for $1.00. So with your first round test, you'd have to divide the Sunbeam cost in half, making it $0.03/hour and the best value.
Make sure they're alkaline batteries not "heavy duty" crap
@@KineticWasEpicVideos I think you're right.
Sunbeam makes the 4 pack of alkaline or the 8 pack of heavy duty. Both packs cost $1. I'd like to see how the cheap 8 pack ones work.
Most likely slightly worse than the Panasonic batteries in this video.
Its all about JCB zinc batteries. Plus you get free acid when they leak after an hour of use.
Yes, the acid on the leaks makes all the connectors rust. This does not happen with alkalines.
LOL
Alkaline batteries leak and destroy electronics, too. This isn’t at all uncommon. If you want to avoid damage from battery leakage, use either Energizer Lithium or NiMH rechargeables.
I’m in the army and carry an LED flashlight that uses AAA’s. Originally I was using Energizer lithiums but got tired of spending so much. Ultimately I found a steady supply of Energizer Industrial batteries the army uses. I found the performance was hardly noticeable. I carry a go bag for last minute missions. I keep lithiums in my go bag for a few reasons. Space is limited and so I want the most out of what I carry. Also lithiums weigh less than standard alkalines. It’s just enough that I noticed it when I handled them. Read up on it and it is preferred by backpackers because of the weight savings. Also they guarantee that the battery has a 10 year shelf life. So I can pack them away and have good faith they’ll be there and ready to go when I need them.
Excuse my ignorance, but why are you spending money on your own batteries? Doesn't the military supply you with everything you need?
Lithiums also have better cold weather performance.
Toby Lerone, I use a streamlight stylus pro. Had a $20 gift card at Cabela’s and it was $25. Cheaper than buying it for $20 on Amazon. I’m in the U.S. Army. National Guard. No I haven’t killed anyone. That’s not something you ask people. I don’t know if you’re trolling me right now. I use the light as an EDC. Both at home while I’m civies and while on duty. I am an avionics mechanic for UH-60 and CH-47 helicopters. Currently serving in Iraq. I poke my head in a lot of dark holes and work on a pitch black flight line. I chose my light because wanted to have something that I could find batteries for almost anywhere. Whether that be army supply, gas station, drug store etc. it’s widely used around the globe. Rather than some obscure battery like a CR-123 that cost a fortune and hard to find. It’s like how people buy weapons in the states that are chambered in common rounds. Like 9mm and 5.56mm. What’s the point of owning a weapon that fires something like 7.62X25. You can’t go to Walmart and get that round. Also, I got this light because it is very bright but isn’t so bright it washes out what I’m looking at. I need to be able to read wire numbers and stuff. Battery life is 9-10 hours. I use it nearly everyday multiple times a day and have to replace batteries every 6-8 months. That’s using just energizer industrial I take from the army. I take what the army has to offer. Sure if the batteries are in my flashlight when I’m off duty, I’m stealing but I’m not taking handfuls of them. If I had a mission and had the ability to plan ahead. I would definitely pack lithiums instead of standard alkalines. As I stated before. It would be to save weight and carry fewer of them. With that said. I did score some energizer lithiums through the army supply chain but they’re used for aircraft clocks. I don’t want to be that guy who uses the good batteries used on aircraft for my flashlight. So they do exist but here in Iraq. Some items are hard to come by through supply and also, I’m a taxpayer too. If I get a reasonable 8 hours of service life from my regular AAA’s. It would be a waste if I got an extra 9-10 out of the lithiums.
floyd2386, I had forgotten that I’ve heard that before. They perform better in cold weather. How about hot weather?
Agent P I believe lithiums also perform better in hot enviroments too.
Thank you for your service.
@@agentp6621 didn't realize we shouldn't ask soldiers if they killed anyone. Not like you've committed a crime or being maligned for it. Then again, I don't know the psychological hell you guys must absorb with no gratitude, recognition, or respect.
Also, I have no idea what the rules are, but I don't think you should be paying out of pocket for gear you use for work. We're not paying $716 B a year for soldiers to pay for their own batteries. If you don't like the standard batteries they provide and need to buy your own, we, taxpayers, should cover it for you.
This is SO neat ! I'm glad you did that; I've often wondered which ones were the best.
Now I know ! Thanks !!
At least the cheap battery doesn't explode
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Interesting test. It would useful to look at rechargeable and non-rechargeable vs rechargable
Thanks for helping me choose the batteries next time.
Idk how did I reach this vid, but I feel educated. Thank you bro.
I can personally recommend the Sunbeam AAA batteries at 4 for a buck. Also the candy isle at a buck a pop is kinda mandatory, as long as your there anyways. Also check the code dates on some dat crap. I have got old turned to white chocolate candy at Dollar Tree more than once. Then I have to shoplift next time to get even. You understand.
Sunbeam also has the CR2032 button batteries at 2/1.00 and they kick ass. Next door to the Dollar Tree, the hardware store has the same type of button batteries at 2/6.00. They don't last 6 times as long, or even 2x as long.
@Les Rosin
Shoplift? Seriously? No, I don't understand and you are a thief.
@@horowizard lol
I’m sure you can take back the white chocolate and get a new not white chocolate lol it’s an even exchange so they don’t care about entering it in
@@horowizard I'm pretty sure he was joking.
Sunbeam is what most manufacturers include within the purchase of an item.
Funny, I get Chinese brand crap that is often DOA.
Hi James! Thanks for what you do!
Thanks Chuck!
One thing I appreciate about these battery tests is other than helping make a choice for value/hour type deal, it's about how I can improve my purchases to save from throwing out batteries and pollute.
The energizer Lithium and Duracell Quantum may not be best bang for buck, but the big advantage is that you'll also throw way less of them to waste. Batteries and battery manufacturing is a big polluter.