HEY man dont sweat forgetting the 24v and possible tripping/blowin a fuse... shit happens, its alot going on. one time i discharged a cap and forgot to turn the power off on this Bryant rtu
If the coil is under positive pressure a trap is not needed(blower pushing are through evaporator coil) if the coil is under negative pressure(blower is pulling through air through coil) like most downflow units and air handlers than a trap is needed if not the blower will pull air through the condensate pipe outside and air lock the drain pan. Causing water to overflow in the evaporator drain pan. From my knowledge thats what I’ve always been told
That's what I've been told too, but in rare instances, I've found a few upflow positive pressure drains needed a P-Trap. Not sure if it was a static pressure issue, but I know once that P Trap was on it the system began draining
@MrSmooth302 I love best practices, and I know I don't necessarily do them on every video and or service call but I feel they're virtually useless if everyone at your company isn't doing it, if that makes any sense. It's demoralizing sometimes
first one, The empty house. I think a check on the condenser would be necessary second one with the Rheem, Looks like low charge. subcooling is usually around 10 degrees and that one was at 2 third one the Goodman. I think The Filter drier is clogged. The goodman filter drier is inside the condenser. Are you sure it has a piston? probably a txv. thanks for the videos.
I’m guessing the trap is on the outside on that first unit?… If so then both of those lines have to be capped for the negative pressure drain to drain properly
You'd be correct about the negative if that WASNT a split gas furnace. The drain is under positive pressure on that first one, and to my knowledge, not all positive drains need a trap.
Looks like someone mixed R22/410A on that last system...the R22 doesn't evaporate at the higher suction pressure and it causes this. I could be wrong, but makes sense.
I've never come across something like that before. For more context, the air handler is in spacious closet, sitting on a return plenum with a "grille" opening of about 16x16, the closet also has louvers. So I was under the assumption it needed a bigger return. My boss would say it's been working all this time but in my head, I wonder if that's what helped kill this prematurely. House is also zoned for upstairs and downstairs
@AB_HVAC well compressors are slowly dying the day you start using them tbf...the windings are literally trying to burst away from eachother each startup 😆
Seems like an obvious restriction. And my guess would be the filter drier. Did you replace it? Did you check it? Video is edited so not all steps are on camera.
No I was instructed not to because it originally didn't pose any issues (yes I understand it's best practice but im not gonna buy something for the job my boss says to not get). In my experience, a restriction pulls down on the suction pressure and increases the head pressure. My best guess was I should've pulled a deeper vacuum maybe. And that's not to say that the filter dryer couldn't be an issue, I just didn't think that from my readings at the time
@@AB_HVACincreased head pressure is another name for stacking refrigerant on the condensing unit. Adding refrigerant charge to reduce the superheat will INCREASE the evap pressure, which implies you think it was too low before. That's exactly how you just described a restriction. You already have plenty of refrigerant based on SC but it's not all getting through. OR.... maybe the piston is the wrong size or has crud in it?
Yeah I get that, guess what I mean to say is I've always seen a restriction steadily drop suction pressure while increasing head. Where as at the end of the video had fairly high head, and a suction pressure that wasn't dropping. Could that still be a restriction?
@@AB_HVAC yes, it could. Think of a water pipe with a slight blockage vs severe blockage. If you flood the opening with water, both cases will back up eventually, but the partial one will not be as noticeable. Or an air filter. Do you think a clean filter, half dirty filter and totally caked filter all have the same static pressure?
Love your videos, guys. The one thing I noticed is that don't forget to change filter drier when open to environment. But great content, bud
Great point!
Love the comedic touch. You guys make a great team. Cheers bro
Much appreciated
I’m sorry but I put trane over Goodman any day sorry guys 😂😂 and before yall ask yes I’m a service tech I hate Goodman systems with a passion
You should love goodman they keep you employed
@@aburgos502 you know what you is right about that 😂😂
Great job as always brother
Much appreciated ✊🏽
I would pump it down, pull the indoor coil piston, replace with the next larger orface it will saturate the evaporator and cool the compressor.
Totally makes sense 👍 for drainage
I love the approach to troubleshooting and getting the apprentice to develop good work habits. NO BAGS ON THE CONDENSER!!!
Great job and troubleshooting thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!!!
No new filter drier on a burn out compressor replacement? You will probably be back to replace a plugged drier
It's a good thing that wasn't a burnout, but a ground out. Haven't gotten a call back on the job
Changed a compressor but not filter drier then has issues….hmmm I think I change out filter drier to not have that as another restriction
HEY man dont sweat forgetting the 24v and possible tripping/blowin a fuse... shit happens, its alot going on. one time i discharged a cap and forgot to turn the power off on this Bryant rtu
Can't sweat the small stuff at all man. On to the next
If the coil is under positive pressure a trap is not needed(blower pushing are through evaporator coil) if the coil is under negative pressure(blower is pulling through air through coil) like most downflow units and air handlers than a trap is needed if not the blower will pull air through the condensate pipe outside and air lock the drain pan. Causing water to overflow in the evaporator drain pan. From my knowledge thats what I’ve always been told
That's what I've been told too, but in rare instances, I've found a few upflow positive pressure drains needed a P-Trap. Not sure if it was a static pressure issue, but I know once that P Trap was on it the system began draining
Agree best practice is put them on everything lol
@MrSmooth302 I love best practices, and I know I don't necessarily do them on every video and or service call but I feel they're virtually useless if everyone at your company isn't doing it, if that makes any sense.
It's demoralizing sometimes
Bro I know what you mean. My mentor had a saying when he was trainging me “never underestimate the installers ability to fuck something up” lol
@MrSmooth302 it's not even just installers, sometimes it's the older more experienced dudes
first one, The empty house. I think a check on the condenser would be necessary
second one with the Rheem, Looks like low charge. subcooling is usually around 10 degrees and that one was at 2
third one the Goodman. I think The Filter drier is clogged. The goodman filter drier is inside the condenser. Are you sure it has a piston? probably a txv.
thanks for the videos.
12:05 sounds fine to me to be honest that’s how most of those rheem/ruuds sound plus you are not stupid everyone makes those mistakes!
You're not concerned that flex gas line in entering the furnace cabinet? Not hard piped out of the furnace cabinet?
That's so common down here man I can't knock it everytime I see it, these property management's won't care because "it works"
I’m guessing the trap is on the outside on that first unit?…
If so then both of those lines have to be capped for the negative pressure drain to drain properly
You'd be correct about the negative if that WASNT a split gas furnace. The drain is under positive pressure on that first one, and to my knowledge, not all positive drains need a trap.
@@AB_HVAC absolutely correct…I didn’t realize it was a cased coil
You're good. You'd be surprised how many people don't know negative pressure drains need it 🤣
put a 3/4 hose cap on your pump discharge to prevent it from spilling in your truck
Looks like someone mixed R22/410A on that last system...the R22 doesn't evaporate at the higher suction pressure and it causes this. I could be wrong, but makes sense.
I've never come across something like that before. For more context, the air handler is in spacious closet, sitting on a return plenum with a "grille" opening of about 16x16, the closet also has louvers. So I was under the assumption it needed a bigger return. My boss would say it's been working all this time but in my head, I wonder if that's what helped kill this prematurely. House is also zoned for upstairs and downstairs
@AB_HVAC well compressors are slowly dying the day you start using them tbf...the windings are literally trying to burst away from eachother each startup 😆
13:07 man thats one slow fan LOL
😬😬😬
@@AB_HVAC I know it’s a frame rate that’s why I put lol it would be cool if they could move that slow and still function
Dude that'd be awesome. I mean even the minisplit fans spin "kinda" faster
Great job but you will be back to replace that compressor.
🤣 I feel like I am
Seems like an obvious restriction. And my guess would be the filter drier. Did you replace it? Did you check it? Video is edited so not all steps are on camera.
No I was instructed not to because it originally didn't pose any issues (yes I understand it's best practice but im not gonna buy something for the job my boss says to not get). In my experience, a restriction pulls down on the suction pressure and increases the head pressure. My best guess was I should've pulled a deeper vacuum maybe. And that's not to say that the filter dryer couldn't be an issue, I just didn't think that from my readings at the time
@@AB_HVACincreased head pressure is another name for stacking refrigerant on the condensing unit. Adding refrigerant charge to reduce the superheat will INCREASE the evap pressure, which implies you think it was too low before. That's exactly how you just described a restriction. You already have plenty of refrigerant based on SC but it's not all getting through. OR.... maybe the piston is the wrong size or has crud in it?
Yeah I get that, guess what I mean to say is I've always seen a restriction steadily drop suction pressure while increasing head. Where as at the end of the video had fairly high head, and a suction pressure that wasn't dropping. Could that still be a restriction?
@@AB_HVAC yes, it could. Think of a water pipe with a slight blockage vs severe blockage. If you flood the opening with water, both cases will back up eventually, but the partial one will not be as noticeable. Or an air filter. Do you think a clean filter, half dirty filter and totally caked filter all have the same static pressure?
sorry guy i have been in in HVAC in florida for 43 years you guys are hacks lol
And you still watched the video, thanks. Sorry I'm 26 without 43 yrs of experience and doing everything by the book perfectly like you big guy
What is delta t
Restricted piston or strainer
Next time replace the metering device and the filter dryer. Its best practice
You want me to replace the piston?
Dogging Goodman with a Grand Aire hoodie on. Obviously inexperienced.
Grand Aire is the name of the company I'm proud to work for. We don't install that brand equipment. Tempstar 'round here buddy