Breoghan: The Legendary Celtic King of Irish and Galician Mythology
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- Breoghan, the Legendary King from Irish and Galician mythology.
According to the Lebor Gabála Érenn or The Book of Invasions, Breoghan (also spelt Breoghan, Bregon or Breachdan), was a descendant of Goídel Glas and Scotia.
He was said to be the first ruler over the tribes of Spain, and is credited as being the founder of the city of Brigantia, as well as being the namesake of the Celtic Brigantes tribe.
This video looks at the mythology, as well as historic texts, as well as the etymology, to see if there is any evidence to support the mythology, or not.
Most people don't realize that Spain/Portugal/Iberia was natively "Celtic" dating back into deepest Antiquity. In fact, the Celts spread as far as Anatolia into the region of Galatia, so named because of their close relation to the Gauls. These are the same "Galatians" Paul writes his epistles to in the New Testament. Many regions in Greece share classic "Celtic" cultural features like "kilts", bagpipes, and more.
Hey Karl, thanks for watching and for the comment. I’m super interested in the Galations..definitely going to look into them at some point. Cheers for the info!
@robertolang9684on the plus side, at least you have nice food! You should also see some of Englands drink culture..every time I went on holiday with my friends, you could tell they dreaded it when we turned up 😅 I do always try to make an effort when in a foreign place though. Gracias para hablar conmigo!
@robertolang9684 dna tests are not very reliable, in canada and the usa the remaining natives receives 0% indigenous american ancestry and lot of European and african. So you are not the descent of invaders.
According to John T.Koch, "Celtic from the West" the Celtic culture and language would have been born in Iberia, as a mix of bell beakers indo-european and local languages like Ibero-Basque. Ancient Cantabrian had an enormous Basque influence, im sure if they spoke with other celtic speakers the others would tell them that they have a very accent.
You should been apolgizing france, austria, italy, germany,the british isles and turkey for the celtic expansion coming from Iberia.
There is even a new theory that says that the vandals are of celtic roots, due to the Lugii tribe (which ressembles a lot the god name Lughus).
Did the Celts sacked Rome twice? In 387 BC and in 455 AD if the vandals are celtic?
Another great video, and as someone who was born in an area associated with the Brigantes I'm really looking forward to further explorations of this topic!
Thank you, that means a lot! I actually live about ten mins away from Isurium Brigantum..im planning to get some footage and make a short documentary at some point. I’m pleased to hear it’s something that would be of interest. Thanks again for watching and for the support.
Amazing👌You have named Brixanxia. In the official Asturianu language all de g are replaced by a X and the o by U . Juan is Xuan and river: rio is riu. To do, in French is: faire.. Facer in Asturianu. Acer in Spanish. You did a wonderful work and nicely illustrated.. Thank you.
Thanks for the information. The language is what intrigues me the most, so its great to get this kind of information from someone who speaks the language! So thank you so much. Im pleased you enjoyed it, this series took a while to study and create and I believe its one of the most interesting topics, especially its connection to Irish and Greek mythology. The episode I did comparing Fenius with Phineus had an archeological link as well which was quite surprising. Thanks so much for watching.
Most interesting, thanks.
I stumbled across an intriguing artefact yesterday that I wonder about hearing this, "the crown of Cerrigydrudion" (or Cerrig-Y-Drudion) found in North Wales, dated to around 400bc. Only the rim remains (actually appears more like a helmet from the reconstructions). I didn't look into it - just spotted it as I was born there - but one curious thing struck me immediately on reading a short description of it: it is patterned with Acanthus leaves, lotus flowers and palm leaves... which are not native to N.Wales to my knowledge and so speak of Mediterranean culture to me (acanthus leaves appear on Greek columns etc.).
If I remember rightly it was one of the oldest Celtic artefacts found to date.
...A little rabbit hole for you.
I thought I know which artefact you meant but now I’m having a look, I’ve not heard of it or seen it before. Thanks for the heads up.
It says it’s La Tene style which is definitely mainland European and did have Mediterranean influence. There was a le Tene chariot burial not far from me and I got chance to look at the shield that was buried with horses, chariot and rider. It was bonkers..the horses buried upright and manipulated to look as though they were galloping! Absolutely fascinating.
Thanks for the heads up..always love finding new relics to go and visit at some point and the Cerrigydruidon crown is now firmly on the list.
Thanks again for watching and for taking the time to comment 😊👌
@@auld_boy Oh by the way, another wee nugget there that made me wonder, I put "Cerrig-Y-Drudion" into google translate and it automatically switched to Basque and returned "stone" for "Cerrig" ...Which is what it means in Welsh. So that was interesting, Basque being an ancient language, Iberian-Welsh connection surviving there and all that.
["Wikipedia
Basque language
Basque (/ˈbæsk, ˈbɑːsk/;[5] euskara [eus̺ˈkaɾa]) is the last surviving Paleo-European language spoken indigenously in Europe, predating the Indo-European languages of the Bronze Age invasion of Europe from the Black Sea by pastoralists whose descendant languages dominate the continent today."
...Mmm'hmm! "Bronze age invasion of Europe"? Questionable. Anyhow, that's Wikipedia for y'!]
Really great history. Thank you.
Thank you Daniel. I’m pleased you enjoyed it. More to come! 👌
Terrific work and a fascinating area to study. I'm interested to hear what Ammianus Marcellinus has for us to discover. Apparently he references Timagenes who describes how the ancestors of the Gauls were driven from their native lands in Eastern Europe by a succession of wars and floods. As ever, lots to trawl through before finding the info related and no guarantees of gems.
Hey Rob, thanks so much! I’ve found some more interesting stuff I’ve found which lines up with what you are saying. I’d be really interested to hear what you find 👌
Thanks for watching and for providing some info 😊👍
Very interesting. My paternal lineage, the rare I2 (M284, L126), has a branch (y55254) that split off sometime in the early/middle Iron Age, went to Spain, and has living descendants today. Really makes me wonder why, and about all the lost history... Can't say where that intrepid individual came from in the isles exactly, but a few generations earlier (at the L126 junction ~3200ya) his forefather was in the southern highlands of Scotland.
Hi there, thanks for watching and for sharing that information. I find it extremely valuable. I also have the I2 and am largely of Scottish and Irish ancestry. Have you looked at the migrations back into this region after the Roman invasion of Briton? There’s some evidence to suggest this was the case. If I find the source then I’ll be sure to share it…it could have been in John T Koch’s book. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Appreciate it 👌
@robertolang9684 it could come from the Norse, that’s true as there were the Norse Gaels ..so interaction and intermarriage between the two groups 👍
@@auld_boy Ha, nice! (I replied twice already but i guess ya can't even elude to other websites anymore)🙄Anyway, yea despite the rarity some lines of I2 are Saxon, some came as Vikings, more continental lines with the Normans, but some like my own walked to Britain and Ireland back in the Paleo/Mesolithic. 😁What's your subclade?
@@Ghost2743 yeah I’ve fallen into this trap too. Commented links and got no response only to find TH-cam has deleted the comment 😅
The only info I’ve got is it’s I2a2a and is a match to Bronze Age remains and WHGs.
Cued up a few vids, got a cuppa, lets go.
Thank you Ryan, I hope you enjoyed them. Was great meeting you last night, Ive subscribed to your channel so will be having a watch through your material too. Thanks once again and stay in touch!
I defo reckon there is truth in these tales (Im Irish).
I reckon for a start that the narrative set down in the 1900s that the Celts began as an Iron Age people and in Central Europe is wrong and that the Celts were a much older people, who began much earlier, in the early Bronze Age and from Anatolia and the Mediterranean.
There is just too much other evidence for it to be the case. For a start, there are many linguistic connections between the surviving Celtic languages and Mediterranean languages. Also, in the Bronze Age, there was a vast coastal European trade from the Baltic, past Britain, Ireland, the Iberian Peninsula and all the way to the East Mediterranean in the trade of Amber, Copper + Tin.
With the Baltic being the main source of Amber, there being ancient Copper Mines in South West Ireland, North West Wales and ancient Tin Mines in Cornwall, Brittany and Galicia (Iberian Peninsula) and the Elite of the East Mediterranean in the Bronze Age being the largest Consumer for that ancient Coastal trade.
I also reckon the Bronze Age is a huge part of our history which has not been properly researched. A huge event too overlooked is the Bronze Age Collapse of the East Mediterranean in approx 1200BCE.
And this Bronze Age Collapse too matches one of the Dates given in the Lebor Gabála Érenn of Ireland, of the arrival of the Brigantians.
Yes I also have a similar feeling..it seems to align fairly well with the “Celtic from the west” theory..which as you say focuses on the expansion up the western coasts up to Britain. The fact you find groups called Brigantes in these coastal areas..as well as in the Rhine valley seems to indicated the use of waterways and as you say, it seems to match with locations which held these resources.
Make sure you check out the other three videos in the series..the Fenius / Phineus comparison is rather interesting and in the next couple of episodes, I’ll show a potential connection to another well known group of people which you will have definitely heard of in the Med region.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to write that comment. It was very well written and some good points made 👌
This is wild. So interesting. Thank you.
Thanks Nancy, and thanks for the leads..it’s definitely helped connect a few dots 👌
It's wild mislead assumption that amounts to propaganda. Go watch The Origins of the European People Robert Sepher Published Historian & Anthropologist who backs his research up with Dna research.. The Irish and Scots were Sythian as is their Cultural practices and genetics of red/blonde hair and blue eyes.
@@johngibson1256 😅 The irony... Sepher is a shit who backs up his own racist ideas with twisted information. Furthering the simplistic ideas you mentioned like, Gaels descending from Scythians, and red hair / blue/green eyes, or WHITE skin coming from ONE spot/population.
I’ve been away lately, but I appreciate the thoughtful comments you left me on the previous video.
Do you think there is a connection here with the Phrygians? Prior to their migration into Anatolia out of the Balkans, they were known as the Brygian tribes. Also there are the Kaskians (Gasca) who I think share a link to Gascony. Both people were involved with the fall of the Hittites, and both were listed as Allies of the Trojans in the catalogue of Allies.
I have a highly speculative set of competing theories forming:
1. Mass Migration - Entire groups of people from the Black Sea region migrate to Spain. This seems to be the standard idea. If these migrations happened, then when did they start? (If this theory is the correct one, then you would have had some prior to the Bronze Age collapse, like the Kaskians in Arcadia, but it probably would have hit critical mass just before, or during the Bronze Age collapse)
2. Colonization - IF these people were part of a highly connected maritime trade network, could these Spanish locations be early colonies of these Black Sea peoples, much like what Carthage was like for the Phoenicians? Once the collapse happens in the east, these western colonies would effectively be independent but maintain their cultural ties to the east.
The reality is probably closer to a mixture of the two above.
Another thing to consider, the Liburnians, who would have been from the same region as the Brygians. The Liburnians were renown seafarers, and had rather unique ships, the Liburna. I think this is the best possibility of the Phaeacian (Scheria) ships from the Odyssey. Could these Liburnians also possibly be the Libu in Libya that antagonized the Egyptians?
I think there are some very interesting links here between the following:
1. The Trojan War and the catalogue of Allies
2. The speculative identities of the Sea People
3. The cultural Greek memory of the “Atlantis” Civilization. (Forget Plato’s lost city, I believe it exists along side his chair and his republic, only in imagination.)
4. The Minoan collapse post Thera eruption. (The story of the Telchines of Rhodes seems to mirror the archeological evidence of the abandonment of Akrotiri before the eruption. Also, I believe that the Telchines relation to poison and metalworking might be a clue of working with arsenic bronze. I have the unqualified opinion that Orichalcum is actually just the myth of tin bronze’s introduction to the Aegean, which came to replace Arsenic Bronze, then later got confused for something mysterious since tin bronze became the standard.)
No problem at all! I enjoy conversations such as this. Yes I do think there could be a connection. I actually left a section out of one of the sources I used which mentions this as I’m going to do a dedicated episode on it either next episode, or the one after. The general history of Spain says this and Herodotus mentions the Bryges moving and changing their name. I think this explains why Fenius / Phineus is in both the Irish and Greek mythologies and why you have the stories relating to Troy in the mythologies of the Britons. Plus they all share similar early runic writing styles. I’m just not quite sure of how the timeline plays out yet, if they are of course, the same people 👍
I’m think the migration from the Black Sea fits in for sure. There is evidence to suggest, the area between the Mediterranean and Black Sea was flooded over at some point and I feel like this could be the flood myth found in the Greek texts. I’ll have a look now at the proposed date for this flood to see if it lines up.
Any of this fit in with your findings? Just off Wikipedia so it’s obviously a generalisation:
“In 1997, William Ryan, Walter Pitman, Petko Dimitrov, and their colleagues first published the Black Sea deluge hypothesis. They proposed that a catastrophic inflow of Mediterranean seawater into the Black Sea freshwater lake occurred around 7600 years ago, c. 5600 BC .[3][4]
As proposed, the Early Holocene Black Sea flood scenario describes events that would have profoundly affected prehistoric settlement in eastern Europe and adjacent parts of Asia and possibly was the basis of oral history concerning Noah's flood.[4] Some archaeologists support this theory as an explanation for the lack of Neolithic sites in northern Turkey.[5][6][7] In 2003, Ryan and coauthors revised the dating of the early Holocene flood to 8800 years ago, c. 6800 BC.”
It’s possibly too early in history though..
On theory number two, I will say the tower of breoghan is thought to have been rebuilt in Roman times..and that the sources say the original May have been Phoenician. It was given the name Pharum Brigantum in reference to the lighthouse of Alexandria. I certainly think they could be port colonies..looking at the Celtic from the west theory..they say they came up the west coasts. The Brigantes in Ireland were on the west..and in Briton it says they held the north of England from coast to coast. One of their settlements seems to have been York..which is on the river giving you access to the Humber estuary and the eastern sea. You also find the Brigantes in the Rhine valley..so may have again been using the waterways, entering at the wahl, Netherlands. So again, May be indicative of these outposts connected by waterways.
@@auld_boy I made some edits to my above comment, not sure if you saw those edits yet or not. I added quite a bit.
The Black Sea flood scenario is possible and should not be discounted! Some of these myths clearly go way way back. I am of the mainstream opinion that almost all cultures have experienced flood disasters, which makes it a universal mytheme, so I do not believe in any universal flood, but I am not against the Black Sea flood. I know there is another localized flood idea involving the Persian Gulf quickly flooding what was once dry land, assumed to be a possible Sumerian origin for the flood.
I personally lean more towards a localized reaction to the Thera eruption tsunamis for the Greek flood myth because that seems to fit the timeline for the people involved, but that is my unqualified opinion, and clearly the Thera tsunamis did not flood everywhere. Mostly just the Minoan world and the islands. I also believe in a variant of the Minoan hypothesis for the Atlantis culture mythology, so that colors my opinions as well. (minus the city itself as Plato described it existing).
My HIGHLY HIGHLY speculative idea is on a loosely knit multi-cultural trade confederation dominated by key regional players, much like the later Athenian Delian league dominated by Athens. There is no proof of it existing, so I can’t say it actually did. I think there are clues to the evidence however.
This could be a possible euhemerization of the tower of babel myth behind everyone speaking one language (for trade and political coordination within this trade league), and 72 languages being the official representation within the group where “Thera” is a type of Tower of Babel. There are a LOT of problems with this tower of babel interpretation, but I am looking into this to see how it could or could not fit. I think it’s probably a square peg matched to a round hole. The trade confederation stuff is still compelling without the Babel mythos. I am happy to be wrong about it. The biggest question is how it ends up in the biblical traditions IF it were connected. (It probably isn’t connected.)
Going back to your respond on point 2, I think no matter what, Celtic people dominated large parts of this European trade network. Both by Sea and by the interior European rivers. I think it is more likely than less likely that the tower was built before Roman times. Who built the original? I think that is hard to say…but I wouldn’t automatically attribute it to the Phoenicians. Scottish Brochs and Sardinian Nuragi seem to be quite similar. The mystery of the Beehive houses from Harran, Southern Italian Trullo, North Italian Crotto, Irish Clochan, Maltese Girna, etc, these are all linked to this in my opinion. Examples of these and similar “Shepard” houses also exist in Spain and Southern France. (but this is an entirely different thread of research I have been looking at.)
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I find it fascinating that Breoghan has the same root as the Vedic 'Brahman' the embodiment of creation. Brath seems to me to be roughly cognate with the english word 'breath' and comes from the root germanic word for 'to hasten' roughly said as 'brethaz' in modern english. So Breath fathers all Creation. My suspicions of this being an occult explanation are further made concrete later when several tribes were named, 'Nemetobriges', with Nemed being a Celtic/Gaelic deity, Mitobriges (roughly cognate with Mitra, a Proto-Indo-European god of some antiquity, a god of justice, the lawful sovereign, and Latobriges, which I strongly suspect may be a reference to Leto, a Greek goddess who may have been shared with the Celtic/Gaelic pantheon.
Fellas, I think we're looking at a geneaology of Gods here, and not just legendary men.
I forgot to mention BRIGA is roughly cognate with Brig/Brigid of Irish/Gaelic myth. I think we're looking at the feminine of a dualistic god, possibly.
Oi! Breoghan! Bar of soap only costs a quid!
I’m sure he scrubs up after the battle 😅
the name comes from the goddess Brigid.
They definitely share the same linguistic root but Brigid is a modern Irish spelling.
In Briton she was Brigantia and the name of the settlement in Yorkshire Brigantium which is the same name as the settlement in Galicia.
Here’s what the etymological dictionary of proto Celtic says about the origin of the Irish name Brigid:
“The name comes from Proto-Celtic *Brigantī and means "the high one" or "the exalted one". It is cognate with the name of the ancient British goddess Brigantia, with whom Brigid is thought to have some relation. It is also cognate with the Old High German personal name Burgunt, and the Sanskrit word Bṛhatī (बृहती) "high", an epithet of the Hindu dawn goddess Ushas. The ultimate source is Proto-Indo-European *bʰr̥ǵʰéntih₂ (feminine form of *bʰérǵʰonts, "high"), derived from the root *bʰerǵʰ- ("to rise").”
As i understand so far... probably got some bits mixed up.
The Gauls are descended from Scotia, a daughter of Pharaoh and Jewish cohorts who boogied out of Egypt when Jehovah was wreaking havoc...
For 440 years, they first settled in Scythia, forced out, escaped to Spain and finally Ireland/Scotland.
These Jews were descendants of Judah via Zerah, who was marked as firstborn with scarlet thread,
then denied and his rights went to Perez, his twin who fully emerged first.
Hence the Irish Red Hand & Cord... and Scottish Red Rampant Lion ~'lion of the tribe of Judah'
Call me intrigued. Cody of House Nephilim piqued my interest, so did some research.
Underneath the mythologies, there seems to be a... thread of red truth, perhaps?
Oh dear, i made a funny.
The Irish and Scots were Sythian as is their Cultural practices and genetics of red/blonde hair and blue eyes. . They did spend some time in the Iberian peninsula on their migration into the British Isles. That does not make them Spanish. Go watch The Origins of the European People Robert Sepher Published Historian & Anthropologist who backs his research up with Dna research unlike this slap dash Propaganda. Akhenaton the Heretic Pharaoh (Princess Scota's father)was not authentic Egyptian and he had red hair and blue eyes. He was a descendant of the Aryan steppe nomads otherwise known and referred to later as Sythian.
There is no genetic connection between the "Jews" and Scotts. However, the "scarlet thread" is still worn by Kabalists and all the various Lions found on the heraldry of the British Isles, does trace back to the "Lion of Judah"/House of David. Christianity is a foreign religion that was imposed on Europe, and so too it's "Kings".
@@KarlKarsnark Maybe, maybe not. I don't trust current corporations to tell me who is related to who.
My deep studies into scripture tell me explicitly that NOTHING is in the bible by accident.
So what is the resolution to the midwife's red thread mistake? I don't know of any other...
but i'm still sand-box'n
@robertolang9684 OK - I'll take another look later
i'm wrapping up a study into the tribe of Benjamin and its history of sorcery ~very enlightening
You are a liar... There are direct lines of the Tribe of Dan and others that came and settled in Scotland and also Hungarians. There are books and studies that specialize in this anthropological and Dna research. Go watch some of Robert Sepher's vloggs. He is a published anthropologist.