What about Egypt? The history of Ireland and Scotland, says that they came from Egypt with Queen Scota and King Gaythelos- circa 1200 BC. See Scotichronicon or the Labor Gabala histories. Or see book: Scota, Egyptian Queen of the Scots. R
@@RalphEllis And why do you bother with that? Didn't the gentleman on the video explain to us that we are too stupid to understand and that's why they draw us beautiful pictures in colors. Everything is clear to me now. The yellow color came from somewhere and went somewhere again, and part of the yellow color stayed here, etc... Why burden us with some "stupid" haplogroups and why make us think. Let's believe in the theory that the gentleman "gifted" to us and enjoy. True, he himself says that he is not 100% sure, but it is probably so. So relax and enjoy the colors.
This is brilliant. I am from South Wales but my father was from Scotland as was my maternal grandmother, and I have been doing family history research and did the DNA ancestry test a couple of years ago, so find this absolutely fascinating. Thank you for this. 😊
Oh dear, massive blank spaces in the sampling from Scotland. It appears Wigtownshire, Dumfriesshire, and Roxburghshire is under represented. Much of Plantation settlement in Ireland originated from those areas.
Those people were descended from a migration from Europe at the time of the angle's. They were apparently allowed to live there as the area had very little population. The Border region is still the least populated in Scotland.
I have an Irish surname, but Dupuytren's Contracture runs in the family. DC is highly correlated with Norwegian and Icelandic populations. Apparently, genetically, the "Irish" side of the family looks Scottish with some Norse descent.
I guess it's difficult/impossible to pack in all the findings in a short video. But it's very important to track down Irish specific genetic diseases. I'm glad it's being studied at last. I did contact the College of Surgeons in 2012 or thereabouts to please consider an investigation so I'm glad it's finally underway.
The Canadian Government put out an SOS to all Citizens of Irish descent they said that a health bomb is in the making, that of Hemochromatosis. So you have large cohorts of people with this killer disease if it's not caught in time. The Dutch carried out an extensive study on their population to track the impact of famine related diseases. This information can assist governments re health screening and testing to help prevent death and long term sickness in the population.
@@ameliagfawkes512 google Celtic Curse. That’ll give you all the info you need. It wouldn’t let me post to links on one post so I had to put this one over here but check out the other late too because if you have those kind of eyes, you’re also a higher risk.
@@laetitiavisagie-gg6kk that’s so interesting to me. I did my DNA and I see I have a relative that went to Australia. But all the rest went to the US to work in the coal mines. Don’t you wish you could go back and ask them these questions.. like why did you decide to go to South Africa or why did you decide to go to the US? Did yours work in the mines in South Africa?
Shame there was hardly any information regarding South Wales and Southern Ireland interchange, as this is a rich and interesting topic worth exploring in detail.
"the territory of Annaly roughly corresponds with the borders of modern County Longford was until the Norman invasion of the 12th century controlled by the Gaelic Irish Farrell or O'Farrell clan. Ó Fearghail or Uí Fhearghail means 'descendents of Fearghal' Fearghal, who fought with Brian Ború against the men of Leinster and the Vikings at Clonfarf in 1014. The stronghold of the O'Farrells was Longphort Uí Fhearghail or 'O'Farrell's stronghold.'"
Many of my autosomal DNA cousin matches show that their Scottish Stewart ancestors also migrated first to Donegal and the migrated t America or Counties Antrim and Down. I also have a very high amount of Scandinavian and European DNA that does not match my paper trail, so I am wondering is this ancient DNA migration at work.
Depending on where in Scotland, you may have Viking ancestors who settled/intermixed. I have Scottish lines tracing the the Isle of Lewis and Harris and as a former Viking stronghold, I expect that’s where the Scandinavian comes in.
I think most of the DNA models are flawed. And are based on lots of theories. Everybody seems to think there was hundreds of thousands of Vikings just descending on the British Isles. Vikings were small raiding parties setting up small encampments at best.
@Art-is-craft Specific locations had permanent or semi-permanent settlements of Vikings and much longer impacts. Specifically in the Shetlands, Orkney and the Western Isles, etc. They settled a bit and built more permanent forward settlements. If you have direct ties to some of those regions you’ll have a lot more admixture of Norse DNA than in places where they were o ot politically dominant or occasional raids. Population movements are not a smooth continuum. They’re very granular and local.
@@robertb6889 But none of that means hundreds of thousands of Vikings just decided on the UK. It does not exclude it but nor does it prove the case. Remote settlements make sense but for them to have hundreds of thousands would mean they had their own kingdoms.
You are aware of the Danelaw, the Viking/norse/Danish kings? Of 1066 and the competing claims of Harald Hardrada? Of William the conqueror and the generations of Norman kings (ie Norse-man) whose claims came from their Nordic ancestors? You are aware of the Jarl of Orkney and his rule over Orkney, Caithness and Sutherland, which is called Sutherland because it was the south most land ruled by Norse Orkney, which was transferred to Scotland in 1472 due to failure to pay a dowry? You are aware of the Kingdom of the Isles from 849 to 1265 that was quite literally a Norse-Gaelic kingdom in the Hebrides and Isle of Man? There is a debate about how many settlers were Danish, Norwegian, etc. and how much was just an elite rule. But really “they’d have had their own kingdoms” well of COURSE they did. Have you seen history?
My great grandparents, my grandparents, my parents are from Ireland/Northern Ireland and for a time I grew-up in Northern Ireland. I've got native Irish, English Planter, not much thankfully (4.4%), Scots Planter and 17.6% Scandinavian DNA, apart from the percentages for the English and Scandi, it was pretty much what I expected. I was surprised at my YDNA Haplogroup - Irish Type 2, the Northern branch R-A212, I didn't see that one coming. My mtDNA was a surprise too, my g.g.g. grandmother came from Scotland - K1a2a - arguably a Pict Haplogroup. Unfortunately, one great grandmother is outwith the 50Km radius, and by a lot (116 kms), so I can't participate in Irish DNA Atlas. It will be interesting to see what DNA will offer up to us, in the future.
It always surprises me when people of Ulster planter stock are surprised that their Scottish ancestry may very well be the celtic Scoti as well as Pictish.
Ceots not a race hun a culture whi came from Middle East settled in anatolia and moved around Europe Spain Portugal France I the irish are from Spain and Portugal look up irish dna Newgrange
Why do you limit study participants to those with all-Irish grandparents? I would love to participate in your study, as my maternal grandfather’s father came from County Tyrone and my father’s 1700-era ancestors came from Antrim. But the distaff side were in both cases German (with one set of French great-grandparents). Am I misunderstanding? Could I participate?
No. It is restricted to Irish who had all Irish Great-grandparents who all came from a 50 mile radius of where the sample person is currently living. The reason for this is that the great grandparents generation and their ancestors did not move very far from their genetic home place and would be a good sample to make a map of Irish genetics.
In my fifties I discovered that my father’s (US) second wife’s ancestors were from within five miles of my mother’s in Northern Ireland. My father’s ancestors are Welsh and British. It wasn’t their location in the US because his family are early California residents and the two women were not raised near each other. It really makes me wonder if people have a “nose” for the genetics they are attracted to.
I do think that, often, we unconsciously follow ancestral roots. My genealogy has made me aware that certain members of the family are living in places that were previously inhabited by their ancestors unbeknown to them. It really is interesting.
My Irish parents immigrated to new Zealand 65 years ago they had to pay back the farmer who payed their ship fare ,they worked for a year before they got payed a cent,yes meat,milk and my dad had a good vegie garden but they did the hard yards and have made new Zealand the home to me and my sibling
My DNA test showed I am 60% Munster Irish from the South West of the country. I found it fascinating that you can trace your ancestry back to specific counties.
No. Data reports Viking DNA in about 5-6% of Irish population. Their presence of Viking DNA in Ireland is ridiculously over-exaggerated. Their were effectively kicked out 1000 years ago.
Tank you for sharing this. I look forward to watching., its a subject/information that I've been waiting for ... . Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian
My dad is celtic Silures from ennis ireland ❤😊i was born in Ireland too my mom white south african dad Irish and am happy this was here to" let Irish know" who they are Ennis county claire ❤🇮🇪☘️.
The Silures were a tribe in Wales, so a Brythonic people before the time of the Romans even. I don't know how someone could even claim to be related to them and yet be from Ennis, peopled by Gaels.
Between invasions by Norman's (who were Welsh and English and French) and invasion from Cromwell whose soldiers left a lot of DNA in Ireland its easy to find the silures.
the Anglo-Saxon dna is very similar to modern day Danes and Dutch because they came from Denmark, Netherlands and the very northern part of Germany (northern German dna reads as Danish) but anyway they were Germanic tribes it cant be translated to Germans ,Germans are also Germanic , however everything north of the Roman Empire was called Germania
My mother was a Roche from Ballyhack on the River Sure. I found out sometime ago that her ancestry was likely related to a serf or slave group known as the Yola who were brought to Eira by Normans in the 12th century. There is very little information on the Yola aside from a few TH-cam videos. They are probably too small a group to show distinctly on a genetic survey, but if anyone could point me towards any new works on these people's I would be grateful.
Roche is a French name (likely came over with the Normans). Also, as someone else already pointed out, Yola was a dialect of middle-English spoken in Wexford. BTW, it's the River Suir, not 'Sure'.
Non white people living in Ireland according to the 1921 census made up less than 4% of the population. So stop your dis-information spreading. Total Bullshit.
asking the wrong question,irish and highland scots are the same people,lowland scots are a different people not very different but distinct nonetheless therefore the question is how much mixing there was between lowland scots who came over in the plantations.
The Bronze Age Rathlin Island Man genomes suggest his people's ancestral journey arrived in Northern Ireland from Scotland. With his ancestors arriving in Britain via coastal routes and waterways by making the journey through Doggerland, Denmark, Norway, Finland and originally the Baltic region. Most of these Bell Beaker people arrived in from Holland and travelled quite quickly up the east coast of Britain and as far west as Stranraer and the western Isles, then crossing over to Ulster. The Picts (Pechts) are descended from these people. The previous neolithic people had coastal communities between the north part of Ireland and Western Isles of Scotland. The Ulster - Scottish link is very ancient and they left the monuments to prove it.
There is no proof that "vikings" were "norse" and vice versa. The word just meant a bandit/pirate from anywhere. The first reported "viking" raid was in Dorset - a very improbable place for a Scandinavian raid. Like a great deal of British and Irish history - just another fabricated tall story.
I believe that Spanish gypsies were expelled from England under Henery the eight and most migrated to Ireland. That could be where you got your Spanish DNA from.
Usually the word Norse is used to refer to all Scandinavians from the Viking era. But I have sometimes heard it used specifically to mean Norwegian Vikings, as opposed to Danes (not sure where the Swedes would fit in that split). The Viking settlement in England was largely Danish (apart from Norwegians in the North West, around Liverpool, which is opposite Dublin). So he could have been referring to the fact that Viking settlement in Scotland and Ireland was largely from Norway? Or he could just have been employing a terminological redundancy?
@@willmosse3684 The problem is that the words people use today bear almost no resemblance to any words that were used at the time, and when they do the meaning has changed. Norse just means from north of wherever the person using it happens to be. Viking just means bandit. Anglosaxon just means the language you spoke. I'm not even sure when the word "Irish" or "Gaeilge" was first used. The past is a modern fiction.
It's unlikely that the Irish sailed direct to Ireland so at some point they lived in Britain or took time to travel through, then there was probably ancient travel between North Scotland and North Ireland, then the Irish Dal Raida invaded Scotland 7Th century, then Irish raided South Britain and even settled some parts of Wales, then the Norman's invaded Ireland which probably had Saxon and British Celtic soldiers, then Scottish Protestants ( some could have been descended from Irish dal raida) settled Ulster Ireland was part of British Empire for centuries with free movement both ways, the Industrial revolution saw a lot of immigration from Ireland, So who is Irish who is British? Yes I'm part Irish, complex but cool history.
You're reading history with a modern map, even the medieval people didn't use our maps, the word Orient or East is how the map was 'oriented'. People take paths of least resistance, that is why moving through an area more densely populated in Southern England is actually not a logically direct migratory route. If you said they traveled to the coast of Cornwall then to Wales, then across to Wicklow/Dublin, that makes sense.
I have wondered about the "Ulster Scots" name. It seems from what I have pieced together that the same group of people, the Gaels, moved between N. Ireland and W. Scotland for a long time and well before the plantation started. I think I heard that the DNA backs this up-that they are genetically the same group
Ulster Scots are Germanic Brythonic people from the Scottish lowlands and the English borders, culturally and linguistically different to the Scottish and Irish Gaels.
Interesting rebranding of well known Viking "invasion" as now politically modified "migration". I was hoping for history meets science, not a political ideology ! But then again with the RCSI hosting. A subversive foreign organisation that should have been proscribed a very long time ago ! Interesting how he contradicts ancient Irish books like the "Book of the Four Masters", and "Lebor na hUidre" (the book of Dun cow) etc.
I recommend that you read 'Catastrophe ' for a finer POV re: the words 'political ' and 'migration' or 'invasion'. Right now we are seeing migration as a result of extreme weather conditions. You cannot say that these people are 'invading'. Perhaps over time, depending on the success of those desperate people to survive and become a part of their new home, you might call it an 'invasion'. 'Politics', on the other hand, would be a late comer to the blending. That would be dependent upon which DNA (OVER TIME) became dominant. 😊
@@carolinegray7510 Are you saying the criminal males being sent here of Military age, now at least 120k of them, are here because of the weather ? LOL. I can say what ever I desire within reason, and within fair law. You seem to be used to telling people what they can say, and likely, now what they even think. Nuts ! Have you been diagnosed the NPD ? As RE "extreme weather". Irish people have never consented to 'Geo-Engineering' (look it up) NATO/UN military Weather-warfare crimes, and would be adverse to it being done to anyone else. By your language, you present as coming from an imperial marxist ideology. As regards to 'your' mythological implied fake-debt mind-control system. Very few people are now susceptible, and with the witnessing of the intimidation violence now used on indigenous Irish people, carried out by the Garda Corporation, and by the genocidal foreign corporations you represent.
You gave up just when the slides get interesting at 15:00 . The presenter spent too much time early on setup information and then ran out of time at the end.
I’ve been very interested in all things related to history, especially family history all my life. So, when I had the chance to send in my DNA, I sent it to 23andMe. Later, I was able to upload to Ancestry and My Heritage. My ancestors were pretty much all each colonial American settlers, with the exception of one set of Great-grandparents from Tipperary in Ireland. My 23andMe shows me at 99.7 Irish and British and under that umbrella parts of Scotland seem to be included. Ancestry has me at 43 percent England and NW Europe, Ireland 34 percent, Scotland 24 percent. But, MyHeritage has me at 44.5percent Scandinavian, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 43.2, and 11.5 percent Iberian. I’m thinking they are calling the English and NW Europe as Scandinavian and the ancient Irish that is similar to the basque as Iberian.
My grandad is 100% Irish with parents coming from the island. According to 23andme, he was close to, but slightly less than 1% native American and closer to 2-3% Scandinavian(Norway and modern Finland)
@@lisajackson1964 true, but there are also some Icelanders with native American ancestry. Very little but still there. I'm thinking some were brought over by the Vikings..maybe not
I've heard that Scotland was invaded and colonized from Ireland sometime near the end of the Roman occupation of Britain, so the common ancestry belt might be some kind of circulation, rather than a single event? My maternal maternal great-grandfather was Irish, married to someone of Maltese + German/Platt roots, but coming from Croatian or Montenegrin roots before that, mainly - although his wife had a "proper Maltese" surname. There are some Italian first names in there, too, but that might've just been from "fitting in" with the Republic of Venice. The Irish great-grandfather was Jewish (but I think had already converted to a Protestant branch of Christianity - probably Methodist/Wesleyan). How "Irish" is Mr Bloom? I suppose not very, for the purposes of genetic detective work. For cultural purposes, he sounded to be entirely Irish in the book, though. But in this case it's irrelevant, isn't it? If he left some mistresses with child, their data points would need to be excluded as outliers. Doesn't matter how they fitted into the culture's niches. My maternal paternal great-grandmother had a "properly Irish" surname, but that came via her grandfather (who married an English woman). It's said he was disinherited and disowned for converting to another one of the teetotal Protestant cults - Methodists again. Somewhere in one of the paternal lines of my mother is at least one other migrant from the South of Ireland with a Scottish surname, so some plantation era link, there. (Apart from that, it's all English, Welsh, or Borderlands. One had a Welsh surname meaning something like "The Foreigner" - or Englishman of the village.) In this well scattered world of ours, I don't think this is going to be uncommon, once you get to places of net migration instead of immigration? To the Irish, Jewish, Maltese, Croatian, Dutch or Platt, German, Scottish, English, at least one part of our family has gone off to go and be half Greek from now on, for instance. That's happening to a lot of people. Yes some people are still ultra-endogamous, but most just let the dice fall where Love casts them. I suppose what this says from this "detective work" point of view (that is treating all of this as just spoor to follow down the trail) now might be the last time in history where this kind of research can meaningfully be done. Immigrants are moving in, for starters. Given time, that's going to start erasing some of the tracks you can now find. So there you go, a nice incredibly convincing rambling explanation you could polish up to justify more funding. What you're doing has to be done now, otherwise it'll be too late.
The O'Partholan Lineage ended up being MacFarlane in Scotland, said to have come from a Honor Escort for an Irish Princess going to Scotland (Dal Riata) for Marriage. Then the Presbyterian MacFarlanes went to Ulster (Northern Ireland) and became McFarlands, and then migrated as Scots-Irish, or Ulster Scots to the Americas. I wonder how true that old story is?
Fairly sure my DNA drinks whiskey and sings maudlin songs with its eyes closed. Da was Clancy and Ma was Flannery. But hilariously, I would not have been eligible as my one was from south Tipperary and one was from western Mayo. But both pairs of great grandparents were local to those areas.
Don't you just love DNA science? Mine says I'm zero percent Irish and my son's that he is 75% Irish - but still confirm he's my son. The other 25% didn't tally either. The truth is, they cannot tell an Irishman from an Englishman, Frenchman or German.
Yet, mine points to ancestors in county Roscommon, which my ancestry directly points back to, with a solid set of genealogical lines via a family of Irish immigrants from the famine era.
@@robertb6889 Depends what kind of DNA test you took. The tests can find near relatives but they cannot distinguish nationalities. Even with living relatives there are a LOT of false positives. I get them in my email almost every day.
..The First Peoples to arrive in Ireland had dark brown skin complexions some were almost black ..They came from the East, Dravids and Rishis of Bharat ..Their Is Sanskrit in gaelic language ..So many so called irish names / surnames are not of irish origin but rather of Sanskrit - Bharatiyan origin ..!! __________________
I think the language is flawed! Migrants is not a geo historically correct term any more. These people were pioneers and ground breaking explorers fighting for survival.. the “migration” was a slow transition and not a direct invasion of the land.
With Ireland''s long history of providing immigants, I am a supporter of the 'Out of Africa, stopped off in Ireland' hypothesis for the origins of the the human genome.🙂
Out of Africa has been thoroughly disproved, rhesus negative blood type is an inconvenient truth that cannot work with out of Africa. Modern humans are hybrids, our history is not what we are led to believe. Scythians/cro magnon (atlanteans) are the blonde/red hair blue/green eyed that are so prolific throughout Ireland and the British isles, and other parts of Europe and the wider world but v concentrated here. They took to the seas and spread across Europe and the Americas after a cataclysmic flood, wiped out Atlantis region (mid Atlantic land mass) as sea levels rose greatly. We are a mix of these peoples genetics interbred with other human species over a few thousand years. This is withheld as doesn’t fit current narrative to keep us thinking we’re all relatives of apes, we’re not and for those with rhneg blood most definitely not.
Many years ago, I read that virtually all Irish actually came through England (from Europe), or rather, Britain. Some settlers (in England) had been there some considerable time (decades to hundreds of years). So...
Stands to reason. The ancient Brittons were Iberian. Later the corded ware people come in. Celtic was less a people than a culture. And still essentially a Germanic tribe.
@@washerdryer3466 I said that I'm not interested, genius. Are words too difficult for you? I suppose people write in crayons for you, but you eat them.
I've read, that the Milesian a Celtic tribe in Spain. Fought the Romans, the own way the Romans figured out that it would be too costly to conquer them. So the Romans offered them to migrate to Ireland. I guess the Romans were using Ireland as a penal colony like the English used America, and Australia.
@@jamesmooney8933 That is an interesting hypothesis. Another one I heard was that Caesar’s Iberian Celtic legion (10th?) saw that Ireland was poorly defended and returned to conquer it after Caesar died. Caesar described the Irish more like Picts, and certainly not Celtic. Yet 100 years later, it was firmly Celtic, at least in culture.
Have you looked into Iceland and Ireland? We have been told that men from Norway stopped in Ireland and south of England and bought slaves. 70% males from Norway and 30% females from Norway... that means 30% males were/from Ireland (have Irish ancestry) and 70% females. Well we lost a lot of genetic material during the last 11 or 12 centuries.
@BigRed2 the original Scots are thought to have done so, at the time of the Picts and the Scots. Also known as the Gaels, it is why Scottish Gaelic is closer to Irish than Welsh. They started as raiders during the Roman period and created a kingdom later. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoti Modern Scots language comes from the angles who settled southern Scotland.
@@daveansell1970 You gave me a page on how they got their name lol, the Scottish people were in the area of Scotland for thousands of years and on the western side they had the kingdom of Dál Riata which also comprised of Northern Ireland which interesting to know that the UK still controls that area, the Picts were to the North East and they ended up joining Dál Riata to fight off the Vikings and Romans. Irish had to first walk through Scotland to get to Ireland.
What country is Scotland and wales attached to? Didn’t hear England or France mentioned once in the first 10 minutes so it’s a loaded study of miss information. I’ll not watch bullshit.
I’m Canadian but inherited 50+ percent of genetic history from Northern Ireland and the Scottish lowlands. Explains my ghost coloured skin that can’t stand direct sunlight 😂
@@BigRed2 Hm… I’m Scottish and our family’s genetics are apparently pretty typical: Scottish, Irish and, Scandinavian. My sister and my dad can tan and become quite dark but me and my mother are very pale and freckled and frankly can’t truly tan at all. Very pale, fair skin is associated with northern peoples but even within families, let alone a given population it can differ.
Autosomal DNA is only useful to understand the recent migration. Y DNA is far more useful to understand the migration however if you think this is representative of migration you must understand that hunter gathers tended to live in different areas with each generation while farmers did stay in the same area for multiple generations.
What about Egypt? The history of Ireland and Scotland, says that they came from Egypt with Queen Scota and King Gaythelos- circa 1200 BC. See Scotichronicon or the Labor Gabala histories. Or see book: Scota, Egyptian Queen of the Scots. R
It was a mix, if you were listening to the speaker. There were very ancient Irish who were similar to the Basques. Then a mix of people migrated about 5,000 years ago from the area near Turkey and also Bronze Age settlers from Eastern Europe.
Quite inflammatory to label DNA from the southwest of Scotland that migrated into Northern Ireland as "British." Obviously an English perception, not a Scots one.
Britain refers to the whole island, of which Scotland is a part of. Scotland and Wales are both inarguably British. To say otherwise would be like the Portuguese saying we’re not Iberian to distance themselves from the Spanish.
My people came over on the Mayflower!!!also have Cherokee in me mostly Irish very proud!! My mom had red hair and blue eyes!! The rarest hair and eye color together!! I think only about 1% of humans have it!!
Mayflower was an English sailing ship that transported a group of English families, known today as the Pilgrims, from England to the New World in 1620. How on earth can you be 'mostly Irish' if your ancestors were british emigrants on the english boat the mayflower?! And Cherokee on top of your english dna!! How does this make you 'mostly Irish', lol?
This study is on the Irish today. Most Irish today descend from the Bronze Age Bell Beakers as there was a huge population replacement. Irish today don't descend from the Irish HGs nor the Irish farmer population. There are papers you can read about Irish HGs and the Farmers along with the Bell Beakers. Lara Cassidy has papers on these populations.
As the Brits moved in (or Mainland Europeans from France, Germany, Italy, Byzantine Eastern Europe), the Irish and Scots were moved out. I'm an Irish /Scottish descent Canadian who keeps getting racially attacked by other cultures for resources. Its kind of exhausting to be of Celtic descent in a world that seems to hate us. Based on your graphs as a peoples we seem to prioritize Britain > Scot > Ireland and push the Irish or anyone with Irish blood out accordingly. This is kind of disrespectful. (Brits push into Scotland, Scots push into Ireland, and Irish are pushed OUT of the British Isles. Usually we are pushed to North America...where we are attacked by Natives, Indians, Africans, Asians or Islamics for resources too. In Canada its mostly racial hate from the French and Natives. But it seems to be pretty much everyone else ganging up on us. Its not right that our peoples get to always be the ones attacked by everyone else. Especially when we weren't being displaced for our own failings in overpopulation.
You lost me on being pushed into North America and attacked by Native Americans. First point, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh were all mostly native Celtic speakers prior to the mid-1800’s. The Irish, Welsh, and Scottish were all subjugated by the British and many Protestant Scot’s went to Northern Ireland as settlers in the 1600’s, due to lack of opportunity in Scotland. The Scots became known as Scots Irish and in the 1700’s many moved to the US for greater opportunity. Native American tribes who inhabited large areas of the US were displaced by the European settlers; largely British and Scots-Irish. Over a million largely Catholic Irish immigrated to the US during and after the potato famine. They were opportunists and many succeeded, due to hard work and persistence. The world doesn’t hate the Irish and Scots. Look how much everyone lives St Patrick’s Day. Don’t know why you feel victimized, but you shouldn’t.
@@lisajackson1964 You understand migration population no? People from mainland Europe move into London. They take jobs, the unemployed go to Scotland, take jobs there. Their unemployed go to Ireland. Take jobs there. Then you leave Irish angry and unemployed, tell them to go to North America IF they can. The folks migrating in are taking jobs the local peoples NEEDED and wanted to do. You're just giving them to wealthy foreigners for 'superficial reasons'. Because they bribed you. Many of the folks who bribed you turned around and took you out next for that. So Genetically our diversity is an influx of other cultures. White British are mostly Ancient Greek Balkans now. Or what you would call Basques. Mainland Europeans who were pushed out of Greece, Italy, and Spain by Persians. Then through France. Or out of Germany by Russians into France. Who push into Britain. The Irish are the most ancient Celt of the bunch. People MOVE as their homes get overpopulated. Try to enter other communities. They TAKE from other communities. Its not the Celtic white culture overpopulating. Its the Indians. Africans. Arabs. Followers of Islam. You are punishing Celts who did NOT create this global resource management problem. For folks that DID. Our bloodlines are OLD...and worthy of survival. OLDER then many of these kids with no legacy or educations.
I'm a bastard, my father's DNA places him in . I have 49% of that DNA. My mother would never fill me in on anything to do with my father apart from giving me his Christian name, Gerry, and described him as having dark curly hair and being . I believe he was good at tennis. I was conceived in Hereford, Herefordshire in 1942.
First and foremost, you're a human being. That itself gives us all dignity. If you were conceived outside the institution of marriage that means diddly squat because marriage is man-made. We're all children of god.
Surely the claim that the British genetic signature in Ireland is all a result of the Plantation is contradicted by the fact that it is almost exclusively linked to Donegal. "The Plantation" encouraged migration from across the whole country but that is not what you are showing. Remember, northern Ireland has been close to Scotland for a very long time and has been politically united before (eg under the Ul Neills).
The populations were seriously separated by religion until fairly recently. No Protestant wanted to marry a Catholic and vice versa. The Catholics remained closer to the original Irish.
There is SO much push on this of late... "we've ALWAYS had migration What saddens me so muchis it's not being misused to justify why by 2050 (ie in a 50 year period... just a 50 YEAR period. about 50% of the population will be "new" Irish IE: Either new to Ireland since 2000 ... or born to the new to Ireland And we're being told to shut up and take it I know no one who has a problem with immigrants coming with skills to Ireland to work. But this is not why small communities around Ireland are so distressed 😢
@@easy_sheetmusic_play_along u do know that the irish and British came from Europe originally celtic culture came from Asia to Turkey spainish bones found all over Ireland and Portuguese they were first irish people in Ireland from northern Spain highest dna in Ireland before any invasions irish celtic people l I'm Ireland 300years before Britain lol if u more British or vikings dna u probably came to Ireland later on won't have any spainish which is dna no idea what spainish armada got to do with it ( Newgrange Irish dna) u tube look it up
And British soldiers slaughtered the majority of the armada that survived so it would be difficult to alter the DNA of a nation from a graveyard in Galway.
He trying to tell us we were not properly human 2500 years back he is doing a dariwn to make eveeryone stupid large psibility u aint from bongo land because it was a English colony unless you personally know of a grandmother or so that came back think about the shite and how well they present it at the end of the day its still shite
Thank you for making this public.
Hope you come to present in Newfoundland and Labrador. Great talk.
The really interesting slides start at 15:00 . You can begin watching there, skipping the preliminaries.
Incredibly informative. Thanks so much for posting. A real public service. So well presented.
What about Egypt?
The history of Ireland and Scotland, says that they came from Egypt with Queen Scota and King Gaythelos- circa 1200 BC.
See Scotichronicon or the Labor Gabala histories.
Or see book: Scota, Egyptian Queen of the Scots.
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@@RalphEllis And why do you bother with that?
Didn't the gentleman on the video explain to us that we are too stupid to understand and that's why they draw us beautiful pictures in colors. Everything is clear to me now.
The yellow color came from somewhere and went somewhere again, and part of the yellow color stayed here, etc...
Why burden us with some "stupid" haplogroups and why make us think.
Let's believe in the theory that the gentleman "gifted" to us and enjoy.
True, he himself says that he is not 100% sure, but it is probably so.
So relax and enjoy the colors.
Excellent. Thanks for posting.
This is brilliant. I am from South Wales but my father was from Scotland as was my maternal grandmother, and I have been doing family history research and did the DNA ancestry test a couple of years ago, so find this absolutely fascinating. Thank you for this. 😊
Oh dear, massive blank spaces in the sampling from Scotland. It appears Wigtownshire, Dumfriesshire, and Roxburghshire is under represented. Much of Plantation settlement in Ireland originated from those areas.
Those people were descended from a migration from Europe at the time of the angle's.
They were apparently allowed to live there as the area had very little population.
The Border region is still the least populated in Scotland.
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I have an Irish surname, but Dupuytren's Contracture runs in the family. DC is highly correlated with Norwegian and Icelandic populations. Apparently, genetically, the "Irish" side of the family looks Scottish with some Norse descent.
In Iceland around a 1000 years ago Irish language was spoken there. They also had an Irish Queen in Iceland.
My Irish ancestors came to Australia. Cheers mate
Mine came to America
@@acedagame6531 Same here.
There was plenty of free transport available…
Mine came to England 😅
@@mareegeorge8641 Mine did first too because it was closer
Has any work on the Irish, English and Scottish in Australia been done in a similar way to that of Newfoundland?
I guess it's difficult/impossible to pack in all the findings in a short video. But it's very important to track down Irish specific genetic diseases. I'm glad it's being studied at last. I did contact the College of Surgeons in 2012 or thereabouts to please consider an investigation so I'm glad it's finally underway.
Why is it very important to track down Irish specific genetic diseases? ...
The Canadian Government put out an SOS to all Citizens of Irish descent they said that a health bomb is in the making, that of Hemochromatosis. So you have large cohorts of people with this killer disease if it's not caught in time. The Dutch carried out an extensive study on their population to track the impact of famine related diseases. This information can assist governments re health screening and testing to help prevent death and long term sickness in the population.
@@ameliagfawkes512 google Celtic Curse. That’ll give you all the info you need. It wouldn’t let me post to links on one post so I had to put this one over here but check out the other late too because if you have those kind of eyes, you’re also a higher risk.
Did you sample any Irish emigrant communities scattered around the world?
My Irish ancestors came to Brooklyn, NY,, about 1875
I’m sorry
Mine settled in Queens. ☘️
Mine in England at about that time.
who cares!!?
@@jeremygaynor2410I though you said you were leaving because you didn’t like the presentation? Yet you’re still here 🤔
That was wonderful. Thank you.
My maternal great grandmother was a young child when her family emigrated to South Africa
Cool I haven’t heard of Manny going to South Africa. When did that go? During the famine or at a different time?
@@kellymurphy6642 she came as a child called Catherine Jenkins around the 1890s
@@laetitiavisagie-gg6kk that’s so interesting to me. I did my DNA and I see I have a relative that went to Australia. But all the rest went to the US to work in the coal mines. Don’t you wish you could go back and ask them these questions.. like why did you decide to go to South Africa or why did you decide to go to the US? Did yours work in the mines in South Africa?
Spotted my anomalous data/dot down the South of Ireland. Years since I thought about this study; thanks for the presentation.
Shame there was hardly any information regarding South Wales and Southern Ireland interchange, as this is a rich and interesting topic worth exploring in detail.
Possibly where the Wallace name in Ireland comes from.
Do people from Cork and Kerry have specific phenotypes compared to the rest of the island?
Yes they're big loud have red faces very shouty ...kerry quite low intelligence long arms always a bit angry... a rugged look and a starey eye.
Yep they are black sub Sahara African most Irish are North African Moorish or Berbers l
My Irish ancestor to America is Hubert Ferrell 1645-1676 , he was from county Longford
Yes...Farrell is a Longford surname (Farrell is the most common version of the name)....you must have relatives in Longford..present day
Are you wanting a few tourists in Longford? 😉@@josephinemonahan915
"the territory of Annaly roughly corresponds with the borders of modern County Longford was until the Norman invasion of the 12th century controlled by the Gaelic Irish Farrell or O'Farrell clan. Ó Fearghail or Uí Fhearghail means 'descendents of Fearghal' Fearghal, who fought with Brian Ború against the men of Leinster and the Vikings at Clonfarf in 1014. The stronghold of the O'Farrells was Longphort Uí Fhearghail or 'O'Farrell's stronghold.'"
@@michealferrell1677 how are you able to trace that far back? I can’t seem to go further than 1800 with mine.
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Family tree , find a grave and for my line there just happens to be a connection with a historical event.
Many of my autosomal DNA cousin matches show that their Scottish Stewart ancestors also migrated first to Donegal and the migrated t America or Counties Antrim and Down. I also have a very high amount of Scandinavian and European DNA that does not match my paper trail, so I am wondering is this ancient DNA migration at work.
Depending on where in Scotland, you may have Viking ancestors who settled/intermixed. I have Scottish lines tracing the the Isle of Lewis and Harris and as a former Viking stronghold, I expect that’s where the Scandinavian comes in.
I think most of the DNA models are flawed. And are based on lots of theories. Everybody seems to think there was hundreds of thousands of Vikings just descending on the British Isles. Vikings were small raiding parties setting up small encampments at best.
@Art-is-craft
Specific locations had permanent or semi-permanent settlements of Vikings and much longer impacts. Specifically in the Shetlands, Orkney and the Western Isles, etc. They settled a bit and built more permanent forward settlements. If you have direct ties to some of those regions you’ll have a lot more admixture of Norse DNA than in places where they were o ot politically dominant or occasional raids.
Population movements are not a smooth continuum. They’re very granular and local.
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But none of that means hundreds of thousands of Vikings just decided on the UK. It does not exclude it but nor does it prove the case. Remote settlements make sense but for them to have hundreds of thousands would mean they had their own kingdoms.
You are aware of the Danelaw, the Viking/norse/Danish kings? Of 1066 and the competing claims of Harald Hardrada? Of William the conqueror and the generations of Norman kings (ie Norse-man) whose claims came from their Nordic ancestors? You are aware of the Jarl of Orkney and his rule over Orkney, Caithness and Sutherland, which is called Sutherland because it was the south most land ruled by Norse Orkney, which was transferred to Scotland in 1472 due to failure to pay a dowry? You are aware of the Kingdom of the Isles from 849 to 1265 that was quite literally a Norse-Gaelic kingdom in the Hebrides and Isle of Man?
There is a debate about how many settlers were Danish, Norwegian, etc. and how much was just an elite rule. But really “they’d have had their own kingdoms” well of COURSE they did. Have you seen history?
My great grandparents, my grandparents, my parents are from Ireland/Northern Ireland and for a time I grew-up in Northern Ireland. I've got native Irish, English Planter, not much thankfully (4.4%), Scots Planter and 17.6% Scandinavian DNA, apart from the percentages for the English and Scandi, it was pretty much what I expected. I was surprised at my YDNA Haplogroup - Irish Type 2, the Northern branch R-A212, I didn't see that one coming. My mtDNA was a surprise too, my g.g.g. grandmother came from Scotland - K1a2a - arguably a Pict Haplogroup. Unfortunately, one great grandmother is outwith the 50Km radius, and by a lot (116 kms), so I can't participate in Irish DNA Atlas. It will be interesting to see what DNA will offer up to us, in the future.
It always surprises me when people of Ulster planter stock are surprised that their Scottish ancestry may very well be the celtic Scoti as well as Pictish.
How much did continental celts influence Irish DNA?
Ceots not a race hun a culture whi came from Middle East settled in anatolia and moved around Europe Spain Portugal France I the irish are from Spain and Portugal look up irish dna Newgrange
Sorry meant celts not a race
Fashion from Middle East
They barely did at all. it's a non-starter. The Irish genome is mostly Bronze Age in origin.
Irish genetics have more in common with ancient Egyptian mummies genome than modern day Egyptians, that’ll throw a cat amongst the canaries!
Why do you limit study participants to those with all-Irish grandparents? I would love to participate in your study, as my maternal grandfather’s father came from County Tyrone and my father’s 1700-era ancestors came from Antrim.
But the distaff side were in both cases German (with one set of French great-grandparents).
Am I misunderstanding? Could I participate?
No. It is restricted to Irish who had all Irish Great-grandparents who all came from a 50 mile radius of where the sample person is currently living. The reason for this is that the great grandparents generation and their ancestors did not move very far from their genetic home place and would be a good sample to make a map of Irish genetics.
In my fifties I discovered that my father’s (US) second wife’s ancestors were from within five miles of my mother’s in Northern Ireland. My father’s ancestors are Welsh and British. It wasn’t their location in the US because his family are early California residents and the two women were not raised near each other. It really makes me wonder if people have a “nose” for the genetics they are attracted to.
Yes it is called feromones
I do think that, often, we unconsciously follow ancestral roots. My genealogy has made me aware that certain members of the family are living in places that were previously inhabited by their ancestors unbeknown to them. It really is interesting.
My Irish parents immigrated to new Zealand 65 years ago they had to pay back the farmer who payed their ship fare ,they worked for a year before they got payed a cent,yes meat,milk and my dad had a good vegie garden but they did the hard yards and have made new Zealand the home to me and my sibling
Has the continuation of this get posted yet? That he spoke about at the end?
My DNA test showed I am 60% Munster Irish from the South West of the country. I found it fascinating that you can trace your ancestry back to specific counties.
How do you explain all the red hair in Ireland? Would it be from Norse Vikings?
No. Data reports Viking DNA in about 5-6% of Irish population. Their presence of Viking DNA in Ireland is ridiculously over-exaggerated. Their were effectively kicked out 1000 years ago.
Tank you for sharing this. I look forward to watching., its a subject/information that I've been waiting for ... .
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My dad is celtic Silures from ennis ireland ❤😊i was born in Ireland too my mom white south african dad Irish and am happy this was here to" let Irish know" who they are Ennis county claire ❤🇮🇪☘️.
The Silures were a tribe in Wales, so a Brythonic people before the time of the Romans even. I don't know how someone could even claim to be related to them and yet be from Ennis, peopled by Gaels.
@@LambentIchor Crazy World 🌎🩸
Between invasions by Norman's (who were Welsh and English and French) and invasion from Cromwell whose soldiers left a lot of DNA in Ireland its easy to find the silures.
@@jfurl5900 Only someone who knows nothing about DNA could say that.
@@jfurl5900Normans were Scandinavian and frencj
What about the Saxons (German)?
the Anglo-Saxon dna is very similar to modern day Danes and Dutch because they came from Denmark, Netherlands and the very northern part of Germany (northern German dna reads as Danish) but anyway they were Germanic tribes it cant be translated to Germans ,Germans are also Germanic , however everything north of the Roman Empire was called Germania
Ango saxons English dna
My mother was a Roche from Ballyhack on the River Sure. I found out sometime ago that her ancestry was likely related to a serf or slave group known as the Yola who were brought to Eira by Normans in the 12th century. There is very little information on the Yola aside from a few TH-cam videos. They are probably too small a group to show distinctly on a genetic survey, but if anyone could point me towards any new works on these people's I would be grateful.
Yola is a dialect , not a people . A mixture of Flemish Old English and Norman French .
Roche is a French name (likely came over with the Normans). Also, as someone else already pointed out, Yola was a dialect of middle-English spoken in Wexford. BTW, it's the River Suir, not 'Sure'.
@@darinaroche-kiang1040 Thank you.
@@citizenwolf8720 Thank you.
What does BCE mean?
Before the Common Era ( BCE ) Or sometimes Before the Christian Era . It refers to any time before the Birth of Christ , the old BC .
My Pa's DNA established he was Barra Norse. Genes are fascinating !
Most of those on the islsnd now have Asian or middle eastern dna, the Irish are being Ethnocised sadly and tragically
it's dynamic times
Non white people living in Ireland according to the 1921 census made up less than 4% of the population. So stop your dis-information spreading. Total Bullshit.
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Only now the English are sending their migrants to here.
@Morningstar-xz5bl They said the same thing about you guys 2000 years ago... PS your own native european language comes from Asia/Middle-East lol..
It would be interesting to know to what degree Ulster Catholics also may share this Scottish ancestry.
All Irish and Scottish people descend from Bronze Age bell beakers
asking the wrong question,irish and highland scots are the same people,lowland scots are a different people not very different but distinct nonetheless therefore the question is how much mixing there was between lowland scots who came over in the plantations.
The Bronze Age Rathlin Island Man genomes suggest his people's ancestral journey arrived in Northern Ireland from Scotland. With his ancestors arriving in Britain via coastal routes and waterways by making the journey through Doggerland, Denmark, Norway, Finland and originally the Baltic region.
Most of these Bell Beaker people arrived in from Holland and travelled quite quickly up the east coast of Britain and as far west as Stranraer and the western Isles, then crossing over to Ulster. The Picts (Pechts) are descended from these people.
The previous neolithic people had coastal communities between the north part of Ireland and Western Isles of Scotland. The Ulster - Scottish link is very ancient and they left the monuments to prove it.
I'm 16 percent Highland Scottish and 50 percent Irish, plus Swedish and Norwegian where did that come from 😮
@@edwardoneill9559 vikings settled coastal Scotland and Ireland
What other kinds of Viking are there besides Norse?
Methodology or method?
How did you get dyers spore ic out of diaspora?
There is no proof that "vikings" were "norse" and vice versa. The word just meant a bandit/pirate from anywhere. The first reported "viking" raid was in Dorset - a very improbable place for a Scandinavian raid. Like a great deal of British and Irish history - just another fabricated tall story.
I believe that Spanish gypsies were expelled from England under Henery the eight and most migrated to Ireland. That could be where you got your Spanish DNA from.
Usually the word Norse is used to refer to all Scandinavians from the Viking era. But I have sometimes heard it used specifically to mean Norwegian Vikings, as opposed to Danes (not sure where the Swedes would fit in that split). The Viking settlement in England was largely Danish (apart from Norwegians in the North West, around Liverpool, which is opposite Dublin). So he could have been referring to the fact that Viking settlement in Scotland and Ireland was largely from Norway? Or he could just have been employing a terminological redundancy?
@@willmosse3684 The problem is that the words people use today bear almost no resemblance to any words that were used at the time, and when they do the meaning has changed. Norse just means from north of wherever the person using it happens to be. Viking just means bandit. Anglosaxon just means the language you spoke. I'm not even sure when the word "Irish" or "Gaeilge" was first used. The past is a modern fiction.
Of course. The past just didn't exist. Lol@@kubhlaikhan2015
It's unlikely that the Irish sailed direct to Ireland so at some point they lived in Britain or took time to travel through, then there was probably ancient travel between North Scotland and North Ireland, then the Irish Dal Raida invaded Scotland 7Th century, then Irish raided South Britain and even settled some parts of Wales, then the Norman's invaded Ireland which probably had Saxon and British Celtic soldiers, then Scottish Protestants ( some could have been descended from Irish dal raida) settled Ulster Ireland was part of British Empire for centuries with free movement both ways, the Industrial revolution saw a lot of immigration from Ireland, So who is Irish who is British? Yes I'm part Irish, complex but cool history.
Believe the Basques went directly to Ireland.Even the Irish bear is Basque.
You're reading history with a modern map, even the medieval people didn't use our maps, the word Orient or East is how the map was 'oriented'. People take paths of least resistance, that is why moving through an area more densely populated in Southern England is actually not a logically direct migratory route. If you said they traveled to the coast of Cornwall then to Wales, then across to Wicklow/Dublin, that makes sense.
@@MultimediaIreland is this to me or the basque comment? Cheers
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Land bridges - look it up. The British Isles were not always separated by the sea.
I have wondered about the "Ulster Scots" name. It seems from what I have pieced together that the same group of people, the Gaels, moved between N. Ireland and W. Scotland for a long time and well before the plantation started. I think I heard that the DNA backs this up-that they are genetically the same group
Ulster Scots are Germanic Brythonic people from the Scottish lowlands and the English borders, culturally and linguistically different to the Scottish and Irish Gaels.
@@davidpryle3935 Thanks
Where does North African people influence , was there any connection with Egypt 🇪🇬
Interesting rebranding of well known Viking "invasion" as now politically modified "migration". I was hoping for history meets science, not a political ideology ! But then again with the RCSI hosting. A subversive foreign organisation that should have been proscribed a very long time ago !
Interesting how he contradicts ancient Irish books like the "Book of the Four Masters", and "Lebor na hUidre" (the book of Dun cow) etc.
I recommend that you read 'Catastrophe ' for a finer POV re: the words 'political ' and 'migration' or 'invasion'. Right now we are seeing migration as a result of extreme weather conditions. You cannot say that these people are 'invading'. Perhaps over time, depending on the success of those desperate people to survive and become a part of their new home, you might call it an 'invasion'. 'Politics', on the other hand, would be a late comer to the blending. That would be dependent upon which DNA (OVER TIME) became dominant. 😊
@@carolinegray7510 Are you saying the criminal males being sent here of Military age, now at least 120k of them, are here because of the weather ? LOL. I can say what ever I desire within reason, and within fair law. You seem to be used to telling people what they can say, and likely, now what they even think. Nuts ! Have you been diagnosed the NPD ? As RE "extreme weather". Irish people have never consented to 'Geo-Engineering' (look it up) NATO/UN military Weather-warfare crimes, and would be adverse to it being done to anyone else. By your language, you present as coming from an imperial marxist ideology. As regards to 'your' mythological implied fake-debt mind-control system. Very few people are now susceptible, and with the witnessing of the intimidation violence now used on indigenous Irish people, carried out by the Garda Corporation, and by the genocidal foreign corporations you represent.
Half way through and can't get to the point.
richardoneal1055 sad to say nowadays, there is no point. No stop, semi-intetesing (hopefully) blather.
If you've got halfway through and not got anything I think that says more about you
You gave up just when the slides get interesting at 15:00 . The presenter spent too much time early on setup information and then ran out of time at the end.
@@jedermann05yes agreed. Speaker needed to get to the point of his presentation earlier. It sounded like how he probably wrote his thesis.
I’ve been very interested in all things related to history, especially family history all my life. So, when I had the chance to send in my DNA, I sent it to 23andMe. Later, I was able to upload to Ancestry and My Heritage.
My ancestors were pretty much all each colonial American settlers, with the exception of one set of Great-grandparents from Tipperary in Ireland.
My 23andMe shows me at 99.7 Irish and British and under that umbrella parts of Scotland seem to be included.
Ancestry has me at 43 percent England and NW Europe, Ireland 34 percent, Scotland 24 percent.
But, MyHeritage has me at 44.5percent Scandinavian, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 43.2, and 11.5 percent Iberian.
I’m thinking they are calling the English and NW Europe as Scandinavian and the ancient Irish that is similar to the basque as Iberian.
Since Native American genes have popped up in Iceland, like from imported slaves, I wonder if any native American genes have popped up in Ireland?
My grandad is 100% Irish with parents coming from the island. According to 23andme, he was close to, but slightly less than 1% native American and closer to 2-3% Scandinavian(Norway and modern Finland)
Ancient Native Americans are closely related to Siberians and the Siberians have some admixture with the Finns.
@@lisajackson1964 true, but there are also some Icelanders with native American ancestry. Very little but still there. I'm thinking some were brought over by the Vikings..maybe not
Interesting for archaeologists!
I've heard that Scotland was invaded and colonized from Ireland sometime near the end of the Roman occupation of Britain, so the common ancestry belt might be some kind of circulation, rather than a single event?
My maternal maternal great-grandfather was Irish, married to someone of Maltese + German/Platt roots, but coming from Croatian or Montenegrin roots before that, mainly - although his wife had a "proper Maltese" surname. There are some Italian first names in there, too, but that might've just been from "fitting in" with the Republic of Venice.
The Irish great-grandfather was Jewish (but I think had already converted to a Protestant branch of Christianity - probably Methodist/Wesleyan). How "Irish" is Mr Bloom? I suppose not very, for the purposes of genetic detective work. For cultural purposes, he sounded to be entirely Irish in the book, though. But in this case it's irrelevant, isn't it? If he left some mistresses with child, their data points would need to be excluded as outliers. Doesn't matter how they fitted into the culture's niches.
My maternal paternal great-grandmother had a "properly Irish" surname, but that came via her grandfather (who married an English woman). It's said he was disinherited and disowned for converting to another one of the teetotal Protestant cults - Methodists again.
Somewhere in one of the paternal lines of my mother is at least one other migrant from the South of Ireland with a Scottish surname, so some plantation era link, there. (Apart from that, it's all English, Welsh, or Borderlands. One had a Welsh surname meaning something like "The Foreigner" - or Englishman of the village.)
In this well scattered world of ours, I don't think this is going to be uncommon, once you get to places of net migration instead of immigration? To the Irish, Jewish, Maltese, Croatian, Dutch or Platt, German, Scottish, English, at least one part of our family has gone off to go and be half Greek from now on, for instance. That's happening to a lot of people. Yes some people are still ultra-endogamous, but most just let the dice fall where Love casts them.
I suppose what this says from this "detective work" point of view (that is treating all of this as just spoor to follow down the trail) now might be the last time in history where this kind of research can meaningfully be done. Immigrants are moving in, for starters. Given time, that's going to start erasing some of the tracks you can now find.
So there you go, a nice incredibly convincing rambling explanation you could polish up to justify more funding. What you're doing has to be done now, otherwise it'll be too late.
Irish from Wexford-emigrated to Canada, some during war of -1812, some during famine.
Scottish gram came to Canada during ww1.
Meath? An important part of the regions of historical Eire.. 🤔
The O'Partholan Lineage ended up being MacFarlane in Scotland, said to have come from a Honor Escort for an Irish Princess going to Scotland (Dal Riata) for Marriage. Then the Presbyterian MacFarlanes went to Ulster (Northern Ireland) and became McFarlands, and then migrated as Scots-Irish, or Ulster Scots to the Americas. I wonder how true that old story is?
Fairly sure my DNA drinks whiskey and sings maudlin songs with its eyes closed. Da was Clancy and Ma was Flannery. But hilariously, I would not have been eligible as my one was from south Tipperary and one was from western Mayo. But both pairs of great grandparents were local to those areas.
Is th first speaker german?
why not compare to finland
Don't you just love DNA science? Mine says I'm zero percent Irish and my son's that he is 75% Irish - but still confirm he's my son. The other 25% didn't tally either. The truth is, they cannot tell an Irishman from an Englishman, Frenchman or German.
Yet, mine points to ancestors in county Roscommon, which my ancestry directly points back to, with a solid set of genealogical lines via a family of Irish immigrants from the famine era.
@@robertb6889 Depends what kind of DNA test you took. The tests can find near relatives but they cannot distinguish nationalities. Even with living relatives there are a LOT of false positives. I get them in my email almost every day.
..The First Peoples to arrive in Ireland had dark brown skin complexions some were almost black ..They came from the East, Dravids and Rishis of Bharat ..Their Is Sanskrit in gaelic language ..So many so called irish names / surnames are not of irish origin but rather of Sanskrit - Bharatiyan origin ..!!
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@@peter636 No, the first Irish came from the Moon. It's obvious because the Moon is still in Ireland.
Tiz a fine moon at that...
I think the language is flawed! Migrants is not a geo historically correct term any more. These people were pioneers and ground breaking explorers fighting for survival.. the “migration” was a slow transition and not a direct invasion of the land.
And calling them ‘pioneers and ground breaking explorers’ sounds like something you’d hear in a Hollywood blockbuster, imo.
Let me tell you,it was , invaded , my family had to to change it's surname under British plantation, in order to keep our land and home, back then.
Talking about later migration
I'm fully Northern European but mostly Irish and Scottish. Terra Australis.
If you're lucky enough to be Irish, then you're lucky enough.
Irish have bad luck, when is the last time they controlled all of Ireland? It’s a curse for kidnapping Saint Patrick from Great Britain
With Ireland''s long history of providing immigants, I am a supporter of the 'Out of Africa, stopped off in Ireland' hypothesis for the origins of the the human genome.🙂
Out of Africa has been thoroughly disproved, rhesus negative blood type is an inconvenient truth that cannot work with out of Africa. Modern humans are hybrids, our history is not what we are led to believe. Scythians/cro magnon (atlanteans) are the blonde/red hair blue/green eyed that are so prolific throughout Ireland and the British isles, and other parts of Europe and the wider world but v concentrated here. They took to the seas and spread across Europe and the Americas after a cataclysmic flood, wiped out Atlantis region (mid Atlantic land mass) as sea levels rose greatly. We are a mix of these peoples genetics interbred with other human species over a few thousand years. This is withheld as doesn’t fit current narrative to keep us thinking we’re all relatives of apes, we’re not and for those with rhneg blood most definitely not.
That has been discredited in the last couple of years.
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Many years ago, I read that virtually all Irish actually came through England (from Europe), or rather, Britain. Some settlers (in England) had been there some considerable time (decades to hundreds of years). So...
Stands to reason. The ancient Brittons were Iberian. Later the corded ware people come in. Celtic was less a people than a culture. And still essentially a Germanic tribe.
Try backing up theories with facts, like any child is taught in primary school. "I read somewhere.." doesn't count.
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I'm 65...like I'd remember! Keep your lecturing for your other half - I'm not interested.
@@barryfoster453 Wave your Union Jack and whistle Rule Britannia for us Foster. 👍
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I said that I'm not interested, genius. Are words too difficult for you? I suppose people write in crayons for you, but you eat them.
It would be interesting to compare iron-age Irish DNA to Spanish DNA. I suspect the Iberian Celts contributed greatly to Irish DNA and language.
I've read, that the Milesian a Celtic tribe in Spain. Fought the Romans, the own way the Romans figured out that it would be too costly to conquer them. So the Romans offered them to migrate to Ireland.
I guess the Romans were using Ireland as a penal colony like the English used America, and Australia.
@@jamesmooney8933 That is an interesting hypothesis. Another one I heard was that Caesar’s Iberian Celtic legion (10th?) saw that Ireland was poorly defended and returned to conquer it after Caesar died. Caesar described the Irish more like Picts, and certainly not Celtic. Yet 100 years later, it was firmly Celtic, at least in culture.
Have you looked into Iceland and Ireland? We have been told that men from Norway stopped in Ireland and south of England and bought slaves. 70% males from Norway and 30% females from Norway... that means 30% males were/from Ireland (have Irish ancestry) and 70% females. Well we lost a lot of genetic material during the last 11 or 12 centuries.
Iceland is the most DNA tested country because if medical researc so answers are on line in studies
Try watching the video at 28:26 .
No, Ireland has never invaded anyone and has always been invaded
On the other hand, we invaded a lot of places peacefully and populated those places while the other guys weren't looking.
It is a while ago, but was the Scots moving into Scotland from Ireland peaceful?
@@daveansell1970 Scotts didn’t come from Ireland
@BigRed2 the original Scots are thought to have done so, at the time of the Picts and the Scots. Also known as the Gaels, it is why Scottish Gaelic is closer to Irish than Welsh.
They started as raiders during the Roman period and created a kingdom later.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoti
Modern Scots language comes from the angles who settled southern Scotland.
@@daveansell1970 You gave me a page on how they got their name lol, the Scottish people were in the area of Scotland for thousands of years and on the western side they had the kingdom of Dál Riata which also comprised of Northern Ireland which interesting to know that the UK still controls that area, the Picts were to the North East and they ended up joining Dál Riata to fight off the Vikings and Romans. Irish had to first walk through Scotland to get to Ireland.
What country is Scotland and wales attached to? Didn’t hear England or France mentioned once in the first 10 minutes so it’s a loaded study of miss information. I’ll not watch bullshit.
My Irish ancestors came to Argentina throughout the XIXth century.
I’m Canadian but inherited 50+ percent of genetic history from Northern Ireland and the Scottish lowlands. Explains my ghost coloured skin that can’t stand direct sunlight 😂
Crazy i’m 60% Scottish and Irish and tan greatly
@@BigRed2 Hm… I’m Scottish and our family’s genetics are apparently pretty typical: Scottish, Irish and, Scandinavian. My sister and my dad can tan and become quite dark but me and my mother are very pale and freckled and frankly can’t truly tan at all.
Very pale, fair skin is associated with northern peoples but even within families, let alone a given population it can differ.
Light blue skin colour with freckles!
@@maryclancy4886 light blue might require a visit to the doctor?
Skin so pale you can see the blue veins through it at certain points. Surely you have seen that.
An aunt in Ireland, one of a dozen, is different from her siblings for being six foot & platinum blonde.
Hello my Somerled brothers and sisters.
My last name before adoption was bailey
My DNA is mostly Irish Scottish and Welsh then English and Scandinavian
b ir ming ham is ir ish wight and 70 per center ben g harley
Autosomal DNA is only useful to understand the recent migration. Y DNA is far more useful to understand the migration however if you think this is representative of migration you must understand that hunter gathers tended to live in different areas with each generation while farmers did stay in the same area for multiple generations.
What about Egypt?
The history of Ireland and Scotland, says that they came from Egypt with Queen Scota and King Gaythelos- circa 1200 BC.
See Scotichronicon or the Labor Gabala histories.
Or see book: Scota, Egyptian Queen of the Scots.
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My Irish ancestors had more Spanish in them then any other thing
Similar, broadly Southern Europe
The ancient British were Iberian.
It was a mix, if you were listening to the speaker. There were very ancient Irish who were similar to the Basques. Then a mix of people migrated about 5,000 years ago from the area near Turkey and also Bronze Age settlers from Eastern Europe.
@@lisajackson1964 it's all bs. Im pomeroy myself. But they hate to know about the random history they've been feed over the war
@@celtiberian07 the entire Irish thing is made up
Where did my 1% Basque come from in my formerly 100% Irish mother? 😂
My father's Rest His Soul Mexican Crip code is ALTA in ALTA California ❤️🔥🪽
Tuatha De Acacia Tepehuan Tribe
What's sad is that with the woke control of Ireland politics, what it is to be Irish will be gone in about 3 or 4 generations.
Moron watches a video mentioning multiple migrations that make up irishness and thinks irishness will be gone….
Unless you get rid of the newest invaders.
Rubbish!!
St. Patrick's "Book Of The Angel"
Quite inflammatory to label DNA from the southwest of Scotland that migrated into Northern Ireland as "British." Obviously an English perception, not a Scots one.
Britain refers to the whole island, of which Scotland is a part of. Scotland and Wales are both inarguably British. To say otherwise would be like the Portuguese saying we’re not Iberian to distance themselves from the Spanish.
My people came over on the Mayflower!!!also have Cherokee in me mostly Irish very proud!! My mom had red hair and blue eyes!! The rarest hair and eye color together!! I think only about 1% of humans have it!!
I am also one of that rare breed (Red Hair/Blue Eyes) with known English and Irish ancestors 🏴☠©
Mayflower was an English sailing ship that transported a group of English families, known today as the Pilgrims, from England to the New World in 1620.
How on earth can you be 'mostly Irish' if your ancestors were british emigrants on the english boat the mayflower?! And Cherokee on top of your english dna!! How does this make you 'mostly Irish', lol?
@theredbaron5117 ireland was part of what was to become the uk in that time. Most of the pilgrims were Scottish and Irish.
Our genetic contributions to our descendants are too diverse to extrapolate anything from.
@@tmkkxx101 Ehh.. NO. You're wrong, but nice try at claiming english cherokees are 'mostly Irish'... you clown.
He ignores the Mesolithic Hunter gather ppulation which was permanent for 3000 yrs.
This study is on the Irish today. Most Irish today descend from the Bronze Age Bell Beakers as there was a huge population replacement. Irish today don't descend from the Irish HGs nor the Irish farmer population. There are papers you can read about Irish HGs and the Farmers along with the Bell Beakers. Lara Cassidy has papers on these populations.
V@@jackieblue1267I know. Ive read a lot about it.
@@jackieblue1267 The Neolithic DNA still exists ibn some areas all be it a small minority.
Ironic that RCSI hosts the subject of genetics and is silent on the subject of genocide.
...while collaborating with the "chosen ones".
What genocide?
King James 1 of England, (James VI of Scotland) was descended from the Irish High Kings.
Normans, FitzAlan family
As the Brits moved in (or Mainland Europeans from France, Germany, Italy, Byzantine Eastern Europe), the Irish and Scots were moved out. I'm an Irish /Scottish descent Canadian who keeps getting racially attacked by other cultures for resources. Its kind of exhausting to be of Celtic descent in a world that seems to hate us.
Based on your graphs as a peoples we seem to prioritize Britain > Scot > Ireland and push the Irish or anyone with Irish blood out accordingly. This is kind of disrespectful.
(Brits push into Scotland, Scots push into Ireland, and Irish are pushed OUT of the British Isles.
Usually we are pushed to North America...where we are attacked by Natives, Indians, Africans, Asians or Islamics for resources too.
In Canada its mostly racial hate from the French and Natives. But it seems to be pretty much everyone else ganging up on us.
Its not right that our peoples get to always be the ones attacked by everyone else. Especially when we weren't being displaced for our own failings in overpopulation.
You lost me on being pushed into North America and attacked by Native Americans.
First point, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh were all mostly native Celtic speakers prior to the mid-1800’s. The Irish, Welsh, and Scottish were all subjugated by the British and many Protestant Scot’s went to Northern Ireland as settlers in the 1600’s, due to lack of opportunity in Scotland. The Scots became known as Scots Irish and in the 1700’s many moved to the US for greater opportunity.
Native American tribes who inhabited large areas of the US were displaced by the European settlers; largely British and Scots-Irish. Over a million largely Catholic Irish immigrated to the US during and after the potato famine.
They were opportunists and many succeeded, due to hard work and persistence. The world doesn’t hate the Irish and Scots. Look how much everyone lives St Patrick’s Day. Don’t know why you feel victimized, but you shouldn’t.
@@lisajackson1964
You understand migration population no?
People from mainland Europe move into London. They take jobs, the unemployed go to Scotland, take jobs there. Their unemployed go to Ireland. Take jobs there. Then you leave Irish angry and unemployed, tell them to go to North America IF they can.
The folks migrating in are taking jobs the local peoples NEEDED and wanted to do. You're just giving them to wealthy foreigners for 'superficial reasons'. Because they bribed you. Many of the folks who bribed you turned around and took you out next for that.
So Genetically our diversity is an influx of other cultures. White British are mostly Ancient Greek Balkans now. Or what you would call Basques. Mainland Europeans who were pushed out of Greece, Italy, and Spain by Persians. Then through France. Or out of Germany by Russians into France. Who push into Britain.
The Irish are the most ancient Celt of the bunch.
People MOVE as their homes get overpopulated. Try to enter other communities. They TAKE from other communities. Its not the Celtic white culture overpopulating. Its the Indians. Africans. Arabs. Followers of Islam. You are punishing Celts who did NOT create this global resource management problem. For folks that DID.
Our bloodlines are OLD...and worthy of survival. OLDER then many of these kids with no legacy or educations.
I'm a bastard, my father's DNA places him in . I have 49% of that DNA.
My mother would never fill me in on anything to do with my father apart from giving me his Christian name, Gerry, and described him as having dark curly hair and being .
I believe he was good at tennis.
I was conceived in Hereford, Herefordshire in 1942.
First and foremost, you're a human being. That itself gives us all dignity. If you were conceived outside the institution of marriage that means diddly squat because marriage is man-made. We're all children of god.
I hope you manage to find something about your heritage but like the previous post, you're here - and that's all that matters! 😊
Surely the claim that the British genetic signature in Ireland is all a result of the Plantation is contradicted by the fact that it is almost exclusively linked to Donegal. "The Plantation" encouraged migration from across the whole country but that is not what you are showing. Remember, northern Ireland has been close to Scotland for a very long time and has been politically united before (eg under the Ul Neills).
The populations were seriously separated by religion until fairly recently. No Protestant wanted to marry a Catholic and vice versa. The Catholics remained closer to the original Irish.
@@lisajackson1964 Well I'm a Protestant that married an Irish Catholic and never had any problems because of it, not ever.
big scam
The most common boys name in Galway is Muhammad
Just shows some people are little less original than others
That's a lie!!
@@beauparc11 It’s not a lie you thick. Look it up.
@@beauparc11 This one is paid shill or bot
There is SO much push on this of late... "we've ALWAYS had migration
What saddens me so muchis it's not being misused to justify why by 2050 (ie in a 50 year period... just a 50 YEAR period. about 50% of the population will be "new" Irish
IE: Either new to Ireland since 2000 ... or born to the new to Ireland
And we're being told to shut up and take it
I know no one who has a problem with immigrants coming with skills to Ireland to work. But this is not why small communities around Ireland are so distressed 😢
Overly rapid delivery, punctuated by ums and ars as the speaker's brain tried to keep up with his mouth. Had to stop 1/4 way through.
Bye Felicia lol
The Spanish were wrecked on the Irish coast but that was much later (16th century AD), u need to go back to 1200 BC.
Nope look up newgrange irish dna
Even if some survivors of the Spanish Armada came ashore in Ireland, there wouldn't have been enough of them to leave an impression on the DNA.
@@easy_sheetmusic_play_along u do know that the irish and British came from Europe originally celtic culture came from Asia to Turkey spainish bones found all over Ireland and Portuguese they were first irish people in Ireland from northern Spain highest dna in Ireland before any invasions irish celtic people l I'm Ireland 300years before Britain lol if u more British or vikings dna u probably came to Ireland later on won't have any spainish which is dna no idea what spainish armada got to do with it ( Newgrange Irish dna) u tube look it up
And British soldiers slaughtered the majority of the armada that survived so it would be difficult to alter the DNA of a nation from a graveyard in Galway.
My father was a Turkey.
dont you like him
Um...um...How do tell the sex of a Chromosome...🤔.... Just pull down it's genes... 🤣😂😅.
I'm sout african, and my oldest traceable ancestor was Irish. 😂 I have no idea how true or accurate that is. But interesting, nonetheless 🎉
nothing new here
Spices in tropical foods can make Irish or German smarter.
Um, ah, mmm.
Ehh.
Em.
He trying to tell us we were not properly human 2500 years back he is doing a dariwn to make eveeryone stupid large psibility u aint from bongo land because it was a English colony unless you personally know of a grandmother or so that came back think about the shite and how well they present it at the end of the day its still shite
Suggestion 4 presenter, please slow your speech down, to flow past the ums & errrs. Thank you. Caro
The word "um" repeated 100000 times is stopping my comprehension
Something wrong with you 😊
Hibernia, never Britannia
So in other words genetics has added almost nothing to the well established historical record
İt seems that Irish have quite a lot of background from Turks....