Cloyes Quick Button timing cover first time to install..#7 Chevy 454 Big Block Performance Build...
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- Cloyes Quick Button timing cover... Having fun with this Performance 454 BBC engine build, and the next step is to install the roller cam shaft , timing chain and a Cloyes quick button timing cover.... Now with theses older engines that didn't come with roller cams, this Cloyes timing cover may be a good solution to the cam walk problem... Never have installed one before so... Lets get started... 😀
0:00 Start...
1:22 Cam Install...
3:24 Timing Chain Install...
6:01 Cloyes Timing Cover Install.... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Very well done and nice work.
Thank you very much!
Good idea on screwing nuts on the screw before you chuck it up, Nice Bison by the way. I went with a CVR Bullet proof cover. It has a nice o ring around the housing and came with a extra o ring. Very happy with it. Thanks for the nice video!
Thanks for the nice comment and information on your cover...
@@Myersmetalworks Absolutely!
Great production value!
Much appreciated!
Here I am attempting to unscrew that button lock screw on a previously installed cover... heck no that thing with a 4mm hex drive is coming out... wish me luck.. thanks for verifying it’s right hand thread! 👌
Thanks for the nice comment and good luck on that button lock screw.....👍
Great video thumbs up
Thank you 👍
Thank you ..
Welcome!
I ran into the same issues with my ARP bolt set. I wonder if they will eventually make a set for retro roller setups like this. Nice video 🤘🏼
Not sure West Coast Pedal Bord.... But thanks for the nice comment.....
You are an amazing machinist I love watching you work great job as always. Questing I'm going to be putting the same timing cover on my 434 Stroker. Alot of reviews I read about it they say the back of the cover needs to be milled some to fit correctly. Did you run into this problem?
Thanks for the nice comment... The cover I got seemed to be flat, and fit well...
Got one too...
Cool Deal... Hope it works out good for you as well...👍
The big block cam button is larger than a small block button and fits snuggly, centered in place and held in by the flanges on the cam bolts. In other words you need a cam button that fits a BBC.
Also, the bolts need to be cleaned and installed with thread locker or they WILL come loose. Your attention to cleanliness is nice. d:-)
Thanks for the tip, Michael....
Thanks for the nice comment and thread lock tip...
A locking plate is a good option as well. Manley makes a inexpensive one part # MAN-42114. Would save a lot of time not machining down some bolts that don't work for this application.
Great video! I have a question regarding the timing chain cover installation. My motor is already installed in my Chevelle, and I’m hoping I can change the cover without having to drop the pan. I have a big block 496. Any thoughts? Thank you!
Thanks for the nice comment on the video... I have seen timing covers taken off and installed back without removing the oil pan, so it can be done.... They lossen the front and side bolts and pry down the pan... But I myself have not done it... Good luck on your install....
Great video, do you run a thrust bearing behind cam gear since using a cam button?
Yes....
I didn't see the cam retaining cover being bolted on ?
Clear the cover because it will oxidize in no time if you don’t.
Thanks for the tip Mr572u.... and your Sub.... Thanks again!
How has this cover worked out for you? I’m going from a solid roller cam to hydraulic roller cam and this cover seems like a good choice for how to deal with the cam button without having a piece of equipment to measure the cam end play
Hi jeff.... I like the cover and how they say in the instructions on how to set the cam end play, but I have not run the engine with it and don't have any input on how well it works...
Hi when installing time chain on the SBC it's dot to dot with #1 at TDC? Then rotate until both dots at 12 O'clock and that's when you are ready to drop distributor? Just wanted to ask I'll be doing this to my Nova.
Never have tried 12 O'clock for the distributor drop in... Sounds pretty neat.... The timing chain dot-to-dot sounds right...When I drop the distributor in, I rotate the engine and watch the rocker arms on #1 cyl when I see the intake valve closing, I can put thumb over the spark plug hole and feel pressure, I look for the top dead center mark on the harmonic balancer and align the marks, then I drop the distributor in with the rotor button pointing to #1 plug wire....
Hope this helped...
I have a question for you buddy my timing kit came with a Thrust bearing is it necessary or can I just put the cam sprocket directly up against the engine block thanks
Hi Ken... At least the ones I've installed, the spacer or Thrust bearing needs to be used for alignment of the bottom sprocket on the crankshaft and the top sprocket on the cam... I use a straight edge with out the timing chain installed to check the alignment between them...
For me its always best practice to follow the manufacturer's instructions on the install...
Hope this helped.... 👍
I saw the block had two holes for a retainer on the cam. It was I mistaken. I have a 75 vintage I am putting together. Button or retainer is the question
The 1975 big block chevy would need a button for a roller cam upgrade...
Do you think that cover would work with a Pete Jackson gear drive ?
Never have used a gear drive... I'd give Cloyes a call to see if that would work...
and wow, would that not sound good with the rumble of the engine...👍
Did you use an 8 inch balancer? Any clearance problems?
It is a 7" ATI Balancer for a 454 external balanced engine... No clearance issues that I'm aware of....
Has this cam button held up over the years? A friend had the same cover on a SBC come apart and ruin his motor.
I have no run time on this engine but on the run in stand... maybe one hour..
Just a respectful question, but why use a button when your block will accept a cam retention plate? If you mentioned that i missed it and sorry in advance.
We ordered parts for the year engine it was, and these are the parts that came and used.... On older blocks (I think) the plate was for revers rotation engines...
Somehow I missed the Cam Button Part # and manufacturer?? The Cloyes cover doesn't come with that.
Cloyes cover came with button....
Why not use the bolts that came with the motor saved a lot of time
Hi David... I had just bought the block not the whole motor, and I like the ARP product... Most of these older engines have been worked on over the years, and some of the nut and bolts aren't always the right ones or have been rounded off... But your right, if everything is in good shape it would save a lot of time....😃
How much to machine some bolts for my sbc same cover?
Thanks for thinking of me Bob... all my machine work right now is just for video content... If you could find a local
machine shop, they should be able to take care of the bolts for you as well... Thanks Again!
Interesting, my cover did not come with the 10 bolts to hold it on
I prefer the stud kit over those cap screws myself anyway. Those just make it look strait from China which it may be I don't know. I like the cover though and that adjustment for endplay is a nice touch.
Is this part number 9-231?
Sorry SS454 I don't remember the part number.... We Have moved and I don't know where the old Cloyes box is to check....
Did you not degree the cam?
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nice video but horrible background music
Thanks for the tip....
That would upset me. You buy a part you pay more and essentially your paying for the name. You get it only to find out it's a blank no name part.
Lol ..... your right... 👍
What's with the music?
Hi Roger.... Thanks for your input.. We learn as we go and what people like and disslike... It is hard to make somthing everyone likes, All we can do is work at it...
not everyone has a lathe
Hi Gus... Yes, your right and if I didn't have access to a Lathe, I would have bought different bolts
to install the cam sprocket... But since I had already bought the ARP bolts, I made them work...
instalsion? lol. ARP rod bolts, definitely. ARP main and head bolts/studs, OK. ARP anything else - waste of money.
chrome covers...smh not the way to go with a daily driver...don't matter what manufacturer it came from. IT'S going LEAK oil...
back sound is irritating...smh
The music makes this video unwatchable
Thanks