Turtles vs Shredder | Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
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- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
Turtles vs Shredder
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Four teenage mutant ninja turtles emerge from the shadows to protect New York City from a gang of criminal ninjas.
Director: Steve Barron
Cast: Judith Hoag (April O'Neil), Elias Koteas (Casey Jones), Josh Pais (Raphael (voice)), David Forman (Leonardo), Brian Tochi (Leonardo (voice)), Leif Tilden (Donatello), Corey Feldman (Donatello voice), Michelan Sisti (Michaelangelo), Robbie Rist (Michaelangelo (voice)), Kevin Clash (Splinter (voice)), James Saito (The Shredder)
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Fun Fact: This film was rejected by every major film studio, until a little independent Studio picked it up named New Line Cinema. After this movie became a worldwide hit, New Line grew into the powerhouse that would eventually release the likes of Dumb and Dumber, Rush Hour, The Mask and The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Thank you turtles.
ps. With only a $13million budget (Jim Henson made the suits). It became highest grossing independent movie of the 90's, with over $200 mil
Don’t forget blade and mk
The house that Freddy Build
And Friday
Every time I see the new line logo with the film strip pieces I get excited and hope I'm watching TMNT. Doesn't go away.
I dont care what anyone says, THIS tmnt movie is the way tmnt movies should be made.
Agreed
It was so awesome. I loved it as a kid and still do today. Definitely appeals to kids and adults both.
To me, this movie is what really felt real. The plot story is something I can relate as what happens between the turtle bothers can also happen to us such as fighting between each other. In the end we see that we need each other more than we realize and if we lose it, we take it for granted. That's what made this movie so great.
💯👍🏿✊🏿
Totally. I wore out 2 vhs tapes of this when i was a kid
I think I can confidently say, that we're all in agreement that this is the best TMNT movie and can't be touched
Ye
they can do better. but i doubt they ever will. they found good mix comic and cartoons. imo maybe tad to dark.... but that said i watched as a very small kid be 7. and i scared easy. this movie never bothered me. so i dk they may of hit it just right even for the weeklings like me
Yes
you must have not seen "Batman Vs The Ninja Turtles". I grew up in the 90s, this movie was one of my fav movies of all times... but the Batman crossover movie was so much fun!
Way more better than the new one
This movie still holds up after all these years. What the Jim Henson Company did with these costumes was nothing short of magical.
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They could do an awesome blended effect with the turtles. Practical suits with CG boosts later. That last live action film really missed the mark
@@nivekian
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You never question for a second that you're looking at teenage turtles. This is crazy to accomplish without a hint of cgi.
For kids born in the early 80's, this movie was an absolute masterpiece.
Still is friend
agree
Late 80s. Still grew up with it.
1986 here and I was 4 and this was me and my 5 yr old brothers favorite and still is one of them
for a kid born in 2000, this movie was an absolute masterpiece.
I always appreciated how Casey Jones had no problem with committing a bit of homicide while crushing Shredder.
... He said "oops".
Yeah he straight up murdered him in front of God and everybody. 😂
@@mertz7305 yet he actually survived that
@@mertz7305 This Casey Jones was ruthless
He didn't die...
CRAZY, how this still looks better than pretty much every other film...
it's crazy how the stunt actors wore those puppet costumes which weighed about 60lbs and those were the light ones. for the close ups and talking scenes they wore heavier more detailed costumes
only this and 2 were the best of them (this one is #1 in my book)
I'll never understand how, if they CLD make this back then, and, on the budget they had.... it looked worse each n everytime after and was more expensive......I'll b honest...the first film, CLDa and shlda earned and Oscar/academy award for the SFX .....
@@matthewjuarbe5826how do u know that?
I'm 41 years old and I'm still waiting for the TMNT franchise to go BACK TO THIS!!!!
CGI can be good but 90s movies that used costumes still hold up like Demon Knight.
@@Aireck174 Yep!
I'm 34, and our watch continues
@@Aireck174demon knight is a perfect movie! I still pop It in the old dvd player to fall asleep sometimes. The perfect mix of horror, comedy and practical effects!
Man the 2003 cartoon serious is REALLY good and it is very similar to the movie's story. Get to know season 1 and then season 2 until 7 will absolutely blow your mind!
I’m starting to think Casey Jones hit that lever on purpose
BUT HE SAID OOPS XD
😂😂😂
jswilli3 no way!!!! It was an accident!!!
😂😂😂😂
Oh my. What ever gave you that idea?
33 years later and they still can't make a TMNT movie that can top this masterpiece
TMNT 2007 says hi
Not only that, Injustice 2 made the CGI TMNT better.
Exactly like this but with planet x and that brain thing, it's completely random planet farming them destroyed by the protoss from starcraft but in the future turtles in time
This will never be topped period!
Still have my original VHS. 😊
& the bed sheets I got for my 5th birthday.
Something I just noticed about this fight is how there are very few jump cuts. This is something so many modern action flicks suffer from.
This fight shines by not only having great set up and characters, but by also being so well shot. Wide angles to show off the combatants and keeping it still on them to establish a rhythm. They only cut when and important maneuver or decisive blow is dealt. Fucking love this movie.
Indeed, the angles used here remind me of those martial arts movies from HK.
@@redder3076 This movie was actually produced by a Hong Kong production company called Golden Harvest
Splinter's Speech is so cold, it's something that sticks in my mind even apart from this monumental achievement of a movie. _"Death comes for us all Oroku Saki, but something much worse comes for you, for when you die it will be...without honor."_ Kevin Clash *killed* the delivery. It is sagacious and powerful. Unfortunate what has become of him.
It's one of my favorite lines from a movie ever. It's soooo cold
What happened to him?
@@RemySalinas-us2wo allegations of sexual impropriety with minors
Bro this has been one of my all time favorite movies since I was 4 years old, I'm 34 now and had no idea that Splinter was voiced by the same guy that did Elmo. What a talent!!
@@MisterX867 ohh. Well thanks for the info and have a amazing day truly 🙏
Can we take a moment to appreciate Casey just casually killing Shredder and saying “oops”
He did survive this.
@@retro8696 I don’t count the rest of the tmnt movies as canon. Just this film alone is turtle power 🐢💥🥷
Lol
@@GChief117 Hey, I prefer the original show, but I still loved this movies series, so let it go.
@@FalloutJack 2003 TMNT > Old School TMNT. Every person is entitled to their own universe✌️🤓😎💪
Saw this as an 8 year old boy in the theater, now looking at this as a 38 year old man on my phone! Life.
Life. 36 here
Same here. Fucking crazy
36 here, saw it in the theatre as well! Man, those were the days
39 and saw it at 9 in the theatre. Can’t forget the dialogue even if I tried
I feel old as fuck and im 33. Man the 90s were good times my kids have no idea
Two things: 1.) It's crazy that Leo was the only one who could land a blow on the Shredder, and ONLY after they all ganged up on him. 2.) After 30+ years this scene still gives me the chills. An absolute masterpiece of cinema.
Goddamn ive said it twice *sip* Leo hits Shredder twice. Hits his arm then cleaves straight through the shoulder pauldron. Oops!❤
Leo crippled Shredder nomsayin, B
Raphael does land a kick to Shredder's rib. Although the Shredder didn't seem to feel it much
@@OS1540When Donnie loses his staff and is continuing the leg sweep and try to land get me every time 🔥
@@markyboy214 facts to me especially in this movie my boy donnie was literally displayed being the hardest fighter comparable to raph
Three Things:
1. The fact that Casey can keep up with the Turtles is amazing in itself.
2. Jim Henson's heart was on display in this film. This film reeks of Labyrinth and The Dark Crystal in it's heart and message.
3. The Last Ronin would make for an amazing trilogy of movies!!!
The last Ronin is just so tragic, though. 😢
The human actors are the right age too. Would love to see a legacy sequel that ignores the second and third one.
@lex_rodriguez I guess TMNT 2007 counts but it like, totally undoes Raph's arc from this movie and Leo (despite always being my favorite turtle) is an insufferable hypocrite in there. Mikey and Donnie don't get to do anything (especially during the fights) and the villains just suck, too.
Jim Henson was only there to do the suits, he had nothing to do with the script, directing, etc.
I'm sure Jim Henson had to DIE for this picture. He died in a hospital, literally a month after this movie came out. A perfectly healthy middle-aged genius, suddenly gone. SuspiciousAF.
Back when time seemed infinite. Life was magical and mysterious.
Aw how cute and Naïve, sorry I'm not even trying to be a dick even though I know I sound like one when I say this.
@Brandon Brooks 😂😂
gave me goosebumps hmmmm. deep and i agree our Youth are a melancholy of what we once enjoyed
@Brandon Brooks 😂😂😂
@Brandon Brooks ....wooooow wtf . .lol
0% CGI , Perfect camera angles.
Jim Henson baby!!!
It's editted exfremely well too. 10/10
Exactly just good old practical effects something that is really missing in movies today I know it is every comic book movie nowadays has some type of horrible looking CGI now honestly CGI is so overused at this point
@@acewillingham yep. It literally just makes movies look like a video game, and personally I can't even watch them when I see it. Examples of good use of CGI are very very rare (LOTR, Dark Knight, King Kong (2005), where they made it look real. Personally I prefer bad costumes over bad CGI.
Ah yes, back when they knew how to make real movies
The Final Fight is to the point, vengeance, raw power and the choreography is phenomenal. And the music makes it 100× more incredible
U felt that too (pause)
The music is sooo good.
Agreed, and every turtle comes in with their own style.
Don- technical & calculating, he tried to get Shredder to move the way he wanted but Shredder had a good defense.
Mike- intense & unpredictable, his fight had the highest energy, and they both were countering each other until Shredder got the advantage and was faster.
Raph- raw power & impact, had he landed hits he probably could have hurt Shredder but lack of focus led to him expelling all that energy with nothing landing.
Leo- precision & skill, he definitely had kill moves planned, very assassin driven, but Shredder got the upper hand by making him lose his focus and give into emotion.
@@zombiejlt1 That was hella observational brother. On point.
What I love about the choreography here is that it feels epic and authentic. Shredder doesn't move very much because a real fighter with a spear doesn't need to. He is totally in control until he sees Splinter. And the Turtles, being more impulsive and younger are cartwheeling all over.
It's also an underrated character beat that Leo is the one to lose his cool and Raph is the one to make the decision to throw away the weapons to keep Leo alive at all costs - something that will lead to their defeat but honours Splinter's teachings.
I also love the fact that Casey kicks butt here without stealing the limelight from the Turtles.
And finally, Splinter is compassionate, wise AND lethal - it's Shredder's hatred and arrogance that leads to his undoing but Splinter doesn't hesitate to let him do it. Without remorse, pity or anger. Like a master.
I just think that people dismissed this movie as just a kid's indulgence but the writer and director took it very seriously, and it has an authentic, mature quality not always found in a movie aimed at kids. Feels more like they aimed at fans of the original comic or at teens.
Agreed on the point about it being more powerful that Leonardo is the one who loses his composure than it being Raphael (and that Raphael who takes on the mantle when Leonardo is incapacitated). It kinda makes me wish they had retained the subplot of Michelangelo going dark (like the shot of him screaming"SPLINTERRRRRR!" from the rooftop of the farmhouse, which was overdubbed with Raphael's voice).
@@horseytown I never realised that was Mikey.
Kind of echoes some recent storylines doesn't it?
best rendition of shredder with him not only being an intimidating badass, but also highly charismatic when addressing the foot clan. Also liked how the foot clan was a dark reflection of the turtle's found family which really added to the overall theme of needing purpose and a sense of belonging.
@@kyriss12 It's a very shrewd way of interpretating how this Shredder works as the whole theme of family is intrinsic to the movie. It really is, thats why Danny is there, why Casey calls out the Foot for their belief in family, and the Turtles of course.
It's a very good Shredder. The best? Dunno, but he is my favourite. I wasn't against him coming back though but could have done without most of the second movie. Shame the 'fifth' movie never came to fruition, with this version of Shredder returning.
remember kids, If you say, “Oops” it isn’t murder.
It was an accident
Don’t worry, he got better.
@@gantz22ify You can’t even say he got super shredded.
Lmao if only it were that simple dude
Yep 100%
My favorite quote from Jim Henson company. "It's not about if they look realistic. It's about you believing they're there." And I think they nailed that.
That is so very interesting. It's like with what happened with the live action Sonic movie; originally, Sonic looked hyper realistic (aka grotesque and unappealing). Then, after Sonic took to social media to voice their grievances, the studio remade Sonic, thought he looks like a cartoon character in the real world, like that guy you quoted, his actions and interactions with the other characters in the movie felt so real that you could actually feel as though he's really there in the room with them.
Hope my comment made sense.
Something I would say about CGI
I was older than I'd like to admit when I realized they weren't real
@@joshjess9841 Jim Henson is the guy who made the muppets FYI
They nailed it 100%. They look so life like once you're watching the movie it's amazing how authentic the entire film is. So dark and gritty at times with a pinch of humor.
My only major beef is they showed every aspect and personality of each turtle except Donatello. At least once it should have shown at the very least a grungy looking lab or workshop.
The part where Leo fights Shredder has been my favorite part since I was a kid. The music, the scene, when he actually was serious, he held his own! I wish it would have been a longer scene!
I wish one of the turtles helped Splinter finished him off
I love the fact they were using weapons.
Born in 83. Watched this movie and the other 2 religiously. This movie is still the best TMNT movie to date. A masterpiece!
Same here 83 baby remember going to the movies and having most of the action figures
83 as well - this VHS got played so many times I lost count! 😅❤
83 here also. Love this movie!
Same to all.
I was born 1982 I feel you. My Uncle and Aunt took me to this the first night it opened. 1990 was different world.
This Shredder *literally* comes in like a video game final boss and I love it so much.
That's a great observation. Like, where the hell did he drop down from anyway?
He does, doesn't he? 😂
Dude drops in just like Bowser in Super Mario Bros. 3.
He got spawned a lil about the ground like a video game
As a kid I stood in awe, in my little mind saying hoooooolllllyyyy shit! Run turtles run!
This is 30 years old Jesus. This is still after all that time hands down the best Turtles movie.
I agree 💯 percent
@86sith 30 years old and still God teir.
Holy crap, man! I was born in 2004 and I even have a DVD (I still have the DVD of the first 2 TMNT movies) of the first TMNT. I love this movie! It's not the first time I ever seen TMNT (I have seen the CGI TMNT tv series before) I love, love, love, Ninja Turtles!
Turtle Power 4ever!
Ok boomers
I agree 💯%❗❗
Raph saying “it’s him” after Shredder removes his mask is still chilling to this day.
Brooooo I thought it was jus me. The whole hand push back on Mikey😩
Splinter knew who Shredder the entire time according to his past .
You know the turtles had heard so much about oroku saki for their entire lives up to that point. So when the turtles make the connection that this dangerous crime boss is also Splinters nemesis from japan, its spine tingling lol
This movie shows that you can make a movie dark without it having to be absolutely depressing. Mixing fun dialog but with a dark moody atmosphere and not insulting kids intelligence.
Yes unlike the childrens avengers mcu franchise
This movie shows that you can make a dark movie and I can still SEE what the hell is going on!
Agreed. while this movie had some of the comedy from the animated series, it definitely had the dark tone of the comic as well.
Unlike the cartoons, sadly.
@@snbforever Mmm. Try the episode Same as it never was from the 2000 series I believe where Donnie gets sent to the future. That series had a real good run.
Probably my most watched film when I was a kid. That VHS tape didn't stand a chance.
😂😂
facts
Mine eventually got static lines from watching it too much
Don't forget that PIZZA HUT commercial at the beginning!
Let my tape rock til my tape pop.
When you watch this as an adult and realize it's actually about the importance of fatherhood. Both Splinter and Shredder adopted their children, but Shredder uses them while Splinter loves them. The turtles dont rally and beat the bad guy. They lose. They lose because the story isn't about learning to stand without your father, it's about how fathers need to be there for their children when it counts.
Exactly, and the whole point was Splinter wanted to have his sons also prepare for when he eventually passes away be it in battle or old age. Mikey is the one who refuses to even speak on it out loud because he doesn’t want to even think about it happening.
Shredder also cared about his family but only for what they could do for him. This is why when put to the test Splinter’s way wins because love and caring for your family wins at the end of the day.
Probly one of the greatest if not the greatest comic book films of all time, a perfect combination of the original books and the funny cartoons, a dark yet appropriately serious story, before-its-time fight choreography, and an unexpectedly excellent rendition of the character deisigns that didnt need an ounce of CGI. If this had been released in the superhero movie era, it wouldve been nominated for an academy award.
Every one of Leonardo's attacks were potential kill strikes. He was NOT kidding around there in his sequence. It's amazing choreography.
Dude has two swords thats more brutal that i use to think as a child
Funny thing is Donetello weapon is always the best in many of the ninja turtle games
Yeah except the parents at the time had a fit about that. So the violence was wayyyyyyy toned down in the sequel.
@@anthonycerulli5524 yeah. No weapons.
And he's the only one to score a hit, even a glancing one.
31 years later and the puppets in this movie still look incredible.
Guys in bulky rubber suits did more ninja shit than the new CGI versions, except CGI Splinter.
Splinter looks like actual rat mutant.
They even sweats too...… makes the rubber suit look realistic
Nah. The puppets today look like corpses. Google it.
Now we have CGI that looks fake! No real storyline nothing to follow no storyline nothing!! simple just CGI.
Bring back the '90s. I thought then all films would be like this one.... True masterpiece.
I like how Shredder is patiently waiting going in circles while turtles are discussing what to do. True gentleman.
Not enough people realize how amazing this FILM is. The acting, cinematography, score, screenplay, editing, characters, sets, costume design, EVERYTHING.
Esp. this is the only TMNT film that was heavily based from the 1984 Mirage Comic Book Series.
Man we were such dorks back then lol. This shit will forever be great!!
saw it in theaters ! it was a blast, and it made so much money too at the box office
I saw this in theater when it came out, I know. I think I was 9-10
@@ImWithTeamTrinity Same here. I saw it on my 9th bday.
This movie will always hold a special place in my heart for me. Not just because I was a huge Ninja Turtle fan back in the day. But when tickets for this movie was released. My mom waited in line for 4 hours to get me and my friends at the time tickets to go see this movie. I had no idea they even were released before the movie came out. But she knew. I lost my mom on June 1st 2016. I have 2 little boys of my own now. And when I sit them down to watch this movie. I'll let them know about what their grandma did to make sure their dad was there on opening night to see this movie. Love you and miss you mom.
Edit: Wow! Thanks for the likes. And for sharing your stories.
We all have a mum tale. Mine spent a whopping AUD$250 in 1987 for the NES. What they do for us must never be forgotten....
Unconditional love💙 🙏🙏🙏
how was the theater experience?
Oh man I watched this so many times as a little kid. This was and is still so cool
Such a wonderful story
Without a doubt the best Turtle movie and one of the best independent action films of all time. Great action, great characterisation. Real enough to believe it, and the turtles looked great .
“Guys It’s quiet here.. yeah a little too quiet.. Hey look there’s Raf.. yeah.. a little too Raf!! It’s Amazing how just one line can stay with you for decades 😂
This is honestly the best Teenage Muntant Ninja Turtle movie ever made. The darkness, the realism, and the voice acting is on point.
I remember being a kid in the theaters seeing this, it was a dream come true as a child.
Also this version of Raphael is why he's my favorite turtle. That attitude is perfect.
@Steve Vento tell that to the 2003 version of TMNT cartoon
This Is Movie Magic done right.
@@dakentaijutsu2010 Steve is right. In the 2003 version Shredder is basically an upgraded Krang. Not like the comics.
@@gameking8809 but still you can't deny the fact that tmnt 2003 is darker than any of the TMNT cartoons before and after, still almost true to the comics, that's my point!
...teenage mutant ninja turtles being rebooted again.. i say bring back corey feldman as the voice of donatello.. "its a kodak moment"
I love that this movie was so much darker and grittier in visuals, even if the content was somewhat family friendly.
That's why I still love this movie as an adult :)
@@markenstein783 Exactly for that reason I love it too :)
There'll never make a turtles movie like this again. The first and one and only the best. Turtles II was already a huge departure from the first one. It almost feels like it didn't even come from the same world. Different April, different Donatello....different voice of Raph. Yeah, it just didn't even feel like a sequel to the first movie. Should have just made its own thing.
Very true. In the cartoon show, the Shredder was comically incompetent. But in this movie, he was Hannibal Lecter frightening. Especially the scene when he was searching Danny's pockets and found the drawing of Leonardo. I held my breath the entire time.
Yeah it was a little bit more in tone with the original comics run, those were even a bit more darker.
Gah! I love the way Raph comes in with that flying kick. You hear the anger in his voice. They’re fighting out of love for splinter. ❤
I loved how the movie was more faithful to comic books, especially with this showdown taking place on the rooftop, but at the same time the Turtles themselves kept their colours and personalities from the 1987 tv show. It was a great mix.
I think the only difference is they actually kill shredder on the roof, but Leo delivers the final blow
Decapitates him
"At exactly what point... Did we lose control here???"
Love that line lol
Red Ryder the turtles got a little cocky here. Shredder is a veteran
I just love the whole scene the exchange, the dramatic turn around when he realizes the rat is splinter, the undying love for a family member as they charge shredder knowing they probably cant win but he is the last obstacle in reclaiming their father
LMAO
That line could apply to the whole franchise 😂😂😂
@@glorysake
Dammnnn...
"Why would you say something so controversial, yet so brave..?"
"You fight well, in the old style."
Always loved that line. Old school moves baby
Back when movies actually focused on the characters and stories now everything is so rushed
So many memorable lines.
@@acewillingham Now there has to be stuff flying all over the screen in CGI to satisfy the ADHD, dumbed down mind of the average American these days.
"You fight well, in the old style."
Leonardo immediately goes for a flying superman dive stab.
@Vajrawielder no doubt....magnificent scene
Nearly 4 decades and no TMNT film or show has topped this, Mutant Mayhem is great but this is *THE ORIGINAL*
Dunno if it's just me, but it looks like that with those sword swings, Leo isn't trying to fight Shredder, he's actually trying to kill him.
All killshots
Yup, they were almost ALL kill swipes. He hit him twice, and one attack was meant to kill him, but got his chest.
If you notice, raph attacks first, and what does he instantly do? Go for death blows to the chest which Shredder easily blocks but the fact that it shows the turtles finally being deadly with their weapons really adds to the desperation of this scene. Remember the turtles lose to shredder.
@@bluesnoopz That’s why I love this scene. The fight choreography changed from them just beating people up to being serious. Part 2 didn’t have ANY of that.
Aside from the dumb ahh lunge at the beginning
My favorite part is where Casey Jones just casually murders him with an "oops".
But he didn’t die if he came back in the second one.
@@somebody3074 Right, he turned on the compactor knowing he'd somehow survive for The Secret of the Oooze.
Five Finger Full Price I wasn’t trying to be a dick about it. Just saying he didn’t die is all.
@@somebody3074 Attempted murder is the specific charge you are all looking for.
It was totally an accident. He even said “oops!”
Love how shredder is letting them huddle while he's just chilling.
Establishing dominance and superiority. He's also patient. All of that went out the window 🪟 when he saw Splinter though, proving that Splinter is the superior one of them all.
@younglove3362 like it does with most when shit is over a woman, it wasn't splinter that bothered him, instead it was the memory splinter was tied too, even though shredder beat his master and sliced his ear he still didn't get the girl
”Hmm, suddenly I crave for turtle soup for some reason.”
@@ldgc7172 In the comics, it was Shredder's brother who was in love with the girl and challenged Yoshi to a duel. Not wanting either to die, she begged her love to flee with her. He did so, shaming himself for love of her, but Oroku's brother caught up with them and was killed by her while fighting Yoshi, so Shredder tracked them down in America to kill them both. According to the codes of their clan, Shredder was actually the honorable one and loyal to the tenants of Ninjutsu while Splinter and the Turtles were the students of a traitor to be hunted down by every Ninja Clan.
@@robertphillips213Oh wooooow! Never knew that. Thanks
Can we all admit that Casey Jones brutally murdered a defeated and defenseless man by smashing him in a garbage truck Child’s Play 3 style😂
What's crazy about this while sequence is how the turtles fight shredder separately.
Donnie is calculated but can't make use of his weapon.
Mikey runs in controlling his weapons but has no plan.
Raph goes in aggressively and quickly looses.
Leo goes in with control and patience and scores a hit.
Perfect reflection of their personalities without even being blatant about it.
Absolutely true. Everything you said is true. But to add, everybody else's choreography is also in character and on point.
Shredder stays still, using short movements like a master, and uses manipulation to get what he wants until he falls to his hatred and looses control.
And Splinter just stays stoic and uses his enemy's hatred against him.
But there's another beat, that Leo is the one to lose his cool in the end and Raph is the one to choose to throw the weapons away, that Donny and Mikey follow. It's because Raph has made his journey and mastered the darkness in him. Leo is still making that journey.
I know the sequels change that up but in just this movie's trajectory, it all works.
Oh and Casey's choreography is "Oops". ❤
Oh, Leo scores more than one hit, my friend. He actually scores about 2 or 3, if you look and count them.
Raph actually does land a pretty well executed back kick, although given Shredder's Armour it doesn't have much effect.. Leo obviously is the most skilled of the turtles in combat and gave Shredder a run for his money until Shredder employed psychological warfare.
They were also clearly fighting angry
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It's nice of Shredder to just chill in the background while the Turtles have their huddle.
Hes lookin around at his fallen troops like a disappointed final boss
@@zom8680 and that's when the BOSS MUSIC kicks in Haha 😆
IT'S COMMON COURTESY! - Skeletor, Robot Chicken
He knows that they could overpower him with the loss of but one
He knows he has the upper hand. Until he had his ass kicked when they started fighting him at full power.
Donnie fought the hardest fight scene I ever saw him fight lol..And to visualize "corey feldman " voicing his takedown effects is hilarious.
Nice touch on throwing the Bo away to show how committed he was to destroying The Shredder
@@slide5039 and the actor behind the suit got to showcase his swifty martial arts (Ernie Reyes jr.)
Shredder used Leo’s anger against him and splinter did the same to shredder. Brilliant
Does this bring a tear to anyone else's eyes...nostalgia is a powerful thing
But it’s not just nostalgia, this is actually a great, well done movie.
Splinter: "I love you all... my sons" 😭😭😭😭
Yesir
I rewatched this as a 39 year old now and its better now than it was when i was a kid... this film is damn near perfect.. you have the heroes you root for, get beat down, they train get better come back only to still lose to shredder
Nostalgia is a powerfull thing, but in the wrong hands, it could be used as a tool, to gain money!
Sadly, when filmmakers today uses nostalgia in their movies, they became instead a heartless and woke movies.
Disneys star wars are great examples of this, also female Ghostbusters too!
This movie is 100X better than the new movies..This is my childhood and I still love it being 38 years old.
Lmao the 2007 one was the greatest one😆
Same age as you and I remember this like it was yesterday.
@@curlyefrain9879 Gasp! Some TMNT 2K7 love! Super underrated film.
so true
37, and still watching!
Can't believe how well this has aged. These suits were really next level. They could show emotion and everything. Barely any cgi necessary.
I like how Shred never moves unless neccessary. Calculating everthing. Wild
Even on the static masks, it's amazing how much work real, actual shadows do to give their faces life
In which other film does the villain completely wipe the floor with the protagonists without the protagonists rallying and winning? Even in Infinity War against Thanos, they ended up rallying in Endgame. But in this film they don't stand a chance, and it's only Splinter who saves their butts! AMAZING writing.
Exactly, because this story is about the importance of fatherhood. Two adopting fathers, one who loves and one who uses. The kids who are loved always beat the kids who are pawns. The story isn't about learning to survive without your father, but about fathers being there for their kids.
@@anunc8797ABSOLUTELY... This is a major theme throughout the film. It isn't just the theme of the turtles losing and trying to rescue their "father". It's so much deeper. You can see it through Danny's journey and struggle with his own dad. At one point he observs the Shredder explicitly telling the foot recruits that he's their father. He almost goes down that route but in a later scene with the captured Splinter he's told that his father does care for him and of course they eventually reconcile. This movie was brilliant on so many levels. Amazing film with so many characters finding their way throughout the journey.
@@TheLaymanCollector you bet, and that's why it's okay that they lose
@@TheLaymanCollector Exactly and i like how even his defeat is symbolic, the turtles fight the Shredder full of rage and they lose, he wins because he is caom during the whole thing, but the moment he sees Splinter he lets his anger overtake him causing his own defeat against the calm Splinter
@@ironmaster6496 You make an interesting observation considering that at the beginning of the movie Splinter gives Raphael a lecture about the dangers of anger. So that's yet another theme seen throughout the movie. It's brilliant.
This movie was just SO well done. The sequel was too goofy, but this one hit just the right balance of seriousness and playfulness.
yup!
@Shin Shaman ah, same thing went with Batman Returns, back in the 80s parents were sensitive af it seems, and ruined great movie franchises because of it 🙄 what did they expect? Disney Jr kind of action?
@Shin Shaman Thank fuck the parents didn't read the original comics :D
If they thought THIS was violent :DDD
It was a thrillogy bruh! And then the animated one
@Shin Shaman Correct. If I recall, they weren't allowed to use their weapons in the sequel. Very lame.
The Shredder defeated each turtle by flipping them on their shell. Tactical mastermind.
LOLLLLLL i never noticed that
Yeah, he goes for all of their legs. He's clearly not trying to kill them. At least not initially
@@heartbrave4834 he's literally just fucking with the first 3 turtles. The fight doesn't get serious until fights Leo,who is the only turtle to land a deadly blow on shredder.
He was trying not to kill them as he wanted them to reveal their origins to him.
@@jebVlogs556 I would not consider that a deadly blow but he was the only one skilled enough to get past the Shredder's defense.
This film is legend, as it should be. The fight choreography is/was elite. Imagine being 10 yrs old watching this in a Theater when it first came out. I still get goosebumps with this part of the movie. This scene was so epic ,so scary and so suspensful to me as as a child! Shout out to anyone who remembers watching this movie for the first time as a kid. This truly is my all time favorate movie. 🍻
Me as well I go back and watch it time to time. I still have the first three movies on 📼
I still get hyped and scream, “Get him, Leonardo!” when it appears he may be getting the upper hand on Shredder 😂
Same here, I was almost 9 when this came out and was so excited! This scene in particular has the perfection combination of suspense, drive, music and just raw emotion! This is how you bring a comic book to the movies! Honorable mention for Michelangelo having a nunchuck competition and stealing the show!
I rewound this part all the time when I was a kid! This came out in 1990. I was 8 years old! Time flies! 🐢🥋
This movie deserves a 30th Anniversary Blu-ray release.
Nick Schireson ...hell yes it does
I'd second that
Deleted scenes included, please.
Either have them on the side or put them in the movie like what was done with the Terminator 2 Extreme DVD & Independence Day on DVD.
Have the uncut version with deleted scenes & the theatrical version.
Facts!!!
hell yeah
"Now, exactly what point, did we lose control here." Funny ass shit.
LMAO 🤣
😅😰"Maybe, somebody ought to tell him that *we're* the good guys?"
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@@sebastianemond5313 I need to go rewatch this!
Boys will be boys and big hearted maniacs will be Casey Jones.
30 years ago, I saw this move at the cinema.... I still love it. Unlike its sequels I still watch it from time to time. ++Jim Henson ++practical effect ++ great direction.
The best Shredder we ever got to this day. The best TMNT movie we got to this day.
This movie did something special when it blended the darkness and violence of the original comics with the comedy and light-heartedness of the cartoon. It was the best of both worlds.
As a kid we saw it in the cinema and we were a little disheartened with "how it was different to the cartoon".
Little did we know at the time that it was taking details from the comic and adding cartoon details in, effectively future proofing it.
When we saw it again years later we realised just how amazing it was with it's accuracy to the source material.
@@LeeONardo - Same experience here, I remember seeing it when I was in middle school at the theater, and it was quite a switch from the cartoon. But man, that was *THE* movie of the summer. It reminded me a lot of the Batman craze of 89.
This movie is on my top ten list of best comic book movie adaptations.
Before I watched this for the first time (I was 8) I actually only knew the 87 cartoon. When I saw this movie I actually PREFERRED the way Turtles were portrayed and it was after that I looked into the comics and from then on I only wanted dark and gritty TMNT as opposed to the kiddified ones.
Funny though that Shredder still lived after being impaled from such a tall height and crushed inside a garbage truck
Me and my friends used to re-enact this all the time on the playground and we’d all argue over who got to be shredder so we’d have to rotate out each day 😂😂
That's hilarious, amazing, and adorable. XD
lol bro we did da same thing
@@kendrick2010ful f**king legend
I did to but what I also did was internalize its message and how needed a story in a age like this.
Its one I wish it would be passed down as the masterpiece of humanity it is.
Dude I was in theaters... when shredder came out the crowd went oooooooooooooo!!
I love how Donnie and Mikey make a good duo, they are both very funny together
As a 5-year-old when this came out, I loved the Turtles. As an adult nearing 40, I'm in absolute awe at how bad ass the Shredder is as a villain in this movie! So perfect!
No sci-fi ever beats the dark ambiance of the 80’s and 90’s. God i loved this movie. The time were vhs shop knew my name and i rented everything there was
Facts!!!
Be kind.. rewind
Pathetic that the best TMNT movie was made in 1990 as an independent film and shits all over anything made since. Easily the goat
Facts!!!!!!...... they gradually got worse after the 2nd one..... then Michael Bay destroyed it (Just like he did the Transformers)
no capppp
Crazy bro. Was literally thinking the same thing. 30yrs fucking years, and just like you said, "It SHITS over anything else" Smh.
@Garren Turk I actually liked the 3rd TMNT movie where they go in time. Granted, it wasn't as good as the first two but it is far better than any of the Michael Bay TMNT movies.
@@Lunzatis_PalemoonMichael Bay should have been quit directing films after his tmnt
one of the greatest fight scenes ever! Ill never forget it. I was 9-10 when it came out. I thought the tone, shots and feel was perfect. Dark and gritty, with a lil bit of humour. The cartoons were great kid versions, this movie is what i expected them to be like in real life. Thats what made it so great, it was realistic! Thank you TMNT.
No scene in any movie has been better than this. For a little kid this was something phenomenal and damn if we replicated this with brothers and friends while playing turtles in the yard :)
How'd you replicate falling from the ladder and the roof?
@@niagaraexplorer by jumping from the ladders and the roof, obviously. Pro tip, wait till winter and snow for those stunts :)
@@ruma9687 always wondered what was supposed to have happened to those foot clan that were thrown from the ladder when Casey drove the garbage truck into it?
@@niagaraexplorer good point. I'm pretty sure being ninjas and all they kicked a bucket :)
@@ruma9687 Died for their master Shredder?
Damn 30+ years old and this can still give me chills. The delivery of lines, music, the practical effects with no flashy bs, the characters personalities and emotions. I used to carry this VHS with me everywhere as a kid.
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Same! It was the 1st VHS I ever had 📼 😊
Same! Unfortunately I lost Turtles 1 at some point, and just was left with Turtles 2 (Secret of the Ooze) so that's the one I can quote faithfully today, even Kino's lines ("Sure sure, I'll 'dream on (dweeb)', but when I do it'll be of something a little thinner!! *speeds away on his motorbike* HAHA!")
Turtles 1 tho was the better movie, and I'm kinda glad every blue moon I go back to watch it I kinda forgot how awesome it was the first time I watched it as a kid.
This movie has passed the test of time
Better than cgi
This movie made 202.5 million dollars on a 13.5 million dollar budget.
You would think with those numbers that corporate assholes would let the writers and producers come up with a better sequel.
It's crazy what they did with such a small budget. Now, they throw gazillions of dollars into these CGI fests and they still cannot compare to this movie in terms of quality.
I bet most of that 13.5 million dollar budget was spent on the turtle suits as the head of them was doing the facial expressions was done remotely by someone behind the cameras
you don't say I'm 32 years old, and I keep coming back monthly to watch this fight scene lol... like the movie came out last week... still one of my favorite movies... l think I seen this movie at least 1000 + times. I cant say that about any film lolol.
@@Lord_Bibulous Blame parents who complained that it was too dark.
Mikes response after "match you for it?" always stuck with me! So awesome!
This movies is legendary for turtles fans! Such a masterpiece and the fighting scenes was amazing!
There is really good writing behind this fight. If you watch closely, you'll see the nuance.
When Donatello comes in, Shredder's moves are calculated, outsmarting everything one move ahead.
Michaelangelo immediately starts flailing about with his chaotic nunchaku. Shredder's moves indicate he knows he has to go on the offensive, as the longer he spends in the fight, the more likely he is to be randomly hit.
Raphael comes in too aggressive with the jump kick, and Shredder uses his momentum against him, essentially flipping him with his own kick.
Only Leonardo has the training and focus to get a hit on Shredder (2 in fact, but the last is against his shoulder armor). Shredder realized before he got cut (as evidenced by his strained grunting) that Leonardo is skilled enough to go toe to toe with him. When his arm gets cut, he understands he has to change his tempo, exposing his weakness to get a hit on Leonardo.
He's essentially used all of their weaknesses as were foreshadowed in the film against them. And of course then realizes if he kills Leonardo he wins the fight.
Unfortunately for him, he also has a weakness, and he falls for it as well. It's a bit ironic that the chaotic nunchaku that he so craftily disarmed from the least mature turtle, was used against him in a very wise, calculated manner that was likely reminiscent of that of the style of Splinter's master, Hamato Yoshi.
Well said. I haven't seen this movie in over 20 years and it still holds up to me. Modern day action sequences rarely tell a story as well as this one
I wouldn't say that about leo like hes better then all of them and more skillfull he just was fortunate shredder still out classed him eventually the others would of got a hit of him too if the fight keep going.
@@tyrelcollins1649 Leo is better at fighting than all of them
@@Poundz978 no hes not
@@tyrelcollins1649 he’s the leader, he’s more composed and there’s been many examples in the cartoons of Leo’s dominance over the crew even tho Ralph is the hot head who can fight just as good as Leo but lacks the composure and experience to deal with his emotions. Ralph makes mistakes often.
Parents crying and complaining this one was to dark is the reason the franchise went in another direction. Be nice if somebody picked this style up in 2020 and made another like this one.
Imagine if the movie ignored the parents, we could have gotten 4 or 5 more movies out of this one. Not like it hurt toy sales any.
Someone just picked the rights last year I think. They’re supposed to be doing a new one.
I agree with you 💯. I like the dark shadowy direction they went with with the original Ninja Turtles. It makes the movie feel more raw and authentic unlike these newer fake, friendly, cringy CGI ninja turtle movies. If they remake another Ninja turtles movie like the original, mixed in with better martial arts Choreography and keep the dark ominous vibe from the original, we will have a winner guaranteed!!!!!
A. Double idk, 2003 was really great, I’d recommend it, has really badass fights and villains
Cannot make another like this one, too raw and unique. But theres always hope lol
This movie and scene is and forever will be engrained into the core of my childhood and the essence of who I am in the best way possible. It really takes me back.
I was so blessed as a child to be given this masterpiece. Truly iconic film
I love how Shredder just outclasses the Turtles. Showing he is a master martial artist. Then he charges Splinter like an idiot lol
figo7ronaldo it seemed he was led by his deep rooted emotions from being scarred by Splinter.
That's actually the psychology behind the character, Orokou Saki is a raging narcissist. He kills a woman when he can't have her after stalking her all the way to another country. He picks a fight with April and orders her NOT to report about The Foot Clan thus bringing attention to The Foot Clan. When it comes to his appearance he carries himself like royalty or a nobleman so having a scarred face would be enough to send him in a blind rage. Let alone he was charging what he believed to be a feeble, elderly rat...so...
Loosing it!! 😆
Shredder falls for the same trick he used on Leo just a few moments earlier, rile up your opponent's emotions so they make a mistake.
Emotions dog, emotions.
This movie was truly a masterpiece. I was born in 83 and this will always be one of my favorite movies of all time
82 here, one of my fav too
83 here, great Film
83 the best generation
I was born in 83 as well.
Same haha. The newer movies just aren't the same as the live TMNT movies.
1:49 every single time that music hits, goosebumps. The turtles weren’t messing around, they wanted Shredder’s head.
Great scene. Music is awesome and i love how they modified Shredder's voice. And the way Splinter catches the tanto...badass
I love how the mood changes in this fight; they're all joking and laughing at first, even Leo. By the time they realize they're in over their heads, it's too late. They run a gamut of emotions here; levity, confusion, panic, anger then total fear. Fantastic storytelling. Great way to remind us that these guys are just kids and their emotions are all over the place.
Exactly, yeah they’re ninjas but
They’re teenagers
That's some pretty in-depth analyzing of this scene, but all true.
It's easily the best scene of the whole movie
i just wish they hadn't done Shredder like they did in Secret of the Ooze.
you sir just earned your 200th like on this comment :D
“Death comes for us all, Oroku Saki, but something much worse comes for you. For when you die, it will be...without honor.”
“Oops.”
@@loughlin14 *Shredder gets crushed*
... Now The Shredder becomes the shredded
@@ausgamecollector more like The Chrusher.
-Mr Bean*
epic everything... costumes, soundtrack, fighting, dialogue. everything that came after has been less than. still in my top 10 favorite movies of all time
My favorite section of this clip is from the point where Leonardo says “this guy knows where Splinter is” to the end of Leonardo’s solo with Shredder. The turtles could have totally won this fight if they didn’t let him get under their skin. If that happened though then we wouldn’t have gotten to see how bad ass Splinter was so it works out I guess.
32 years old and this fight scene still gives me the chills like it did when I was kid. CLASSIC 90s
Tastee Motive. 33 Nov 12 🙂 we’re getting old brother
I'm 41 years old and I still remember every bit of that day in the theater as I saw this wonderful movie.
I'm 51. This movie is still bad ass.
Same here man, 32 as well! Lol.
@Carl Brutananadilewski lol gay? But the movie is still well-known as today
For any TMNT fan who grew up in the 80s. This movie was amazing. The work and engineering for the costumes were truly amazing. Blows away any CGI bullshit
I cannot watch any of the later CGI films. This is it for me. This is the only turtle film i will watch
I don't think the cgi is that bad honestly. It's just the turtles look so grotesque when compared to any other appearance. They look so extreme that's it's jarring. My problem with the 2014 films is simply they are all spectacle and lacks any heart. It lacks the personal moments such as when we see the turtles dealing with grief. Even the final battle in 90's film has more emotional weight than the 2014 version. That line of dialogue between Leo and Shredder when he taunts him, shows the depth of love and fury each turtle is feeling at that moment.
This was first film I ever watched in the cinema. I was 6 years old at the time I was already a fan of the cartoon and I had all the toys. I went into the cinema super excited, and I was buzzing by the time it was over. I was blown away by the tone of it and the Jim Henson work on the costumes was incredible. It still holds up today
@@MrDeadhead83 same here. I was fortunate enough to meet Donatello. 😎👍
@@calicoesblue4703 you mean the guy in the suit or the voice (Corey Feldman)?
You can tell why Leo is the defacto Leader of the turtles, he may be insufferable at times, but he was the most capable and held his ground against Shredder the longest while dealing the most damage.
This movie balanced comedy and drama so well. I love how the scene starts with jokes, but as they reach the conclusion that Shredder knows Splinter's whereabouts, the fighting intensifies, and the music becomes much more intense.
BEST turtles movie EVER MADE!💯👍🏻🔥
I love the sequel of this also.
I agree
Yep
@@Rambo20244 sorry sequel sucked
@@benblexbenblex dude.... you stupid as hell and not a real fan if you don't enjoy this movie.... the 3rd is understandable.... but 2nd no way.
I love how Shredder just waits around for them to talk.
maybe because he knows that he will win in the end so he just lets them stand around
A considerate, understanding villain.
It's 4 vs 1 if he makes one mistake he loses so he has to be cautious not to mention he's older and not younger than the turtles. Also add the fact that the 2nd time Raph kicked him and Leo stabbed him.
@@FamousDave2186 yeah.. even in the beginning of the fight I don't think he was worried about them. To me it was more of a "I will prove just how insignificant you truly are" kind of attitude and let them fight on their terms just to prove they never had a chance.. and he was right (still annoys me how they "kill" him in this movie)
@@FamousDave2186 I think that Leonardo was the only one that actually managed to hurt Shredder even if it was briefly. But I could be wrong of course.
33 years later and this is still the best tmnt movie ever made.
This movie was something I'll never forget, as I was 6-years old. I really felt the dynamic between the brothers, especially when Splinter, their father figure was kidnapped, and the growth Leo, Raph, and even Mikey got.
There were also two books and audio cassettes "The First Battle" and "The Final Lesson", which are taken from the movie, and where Mikey...Mikey the one who is always there for his family to brighten their day goes to Leo literally a shell of who he is, and tells Leo "I can't stand this pain Leo", referencing how much he missed Splinter.
Didn't need no CGI back in those days...We had Jim Henson!
May he rest in peace
Jim Henson was a master.
stormykeep tru dat
We don't need cgi now the new developers just dont know what to do without green screen
Throwback the Muppets on deck with Jimmy Henson the Nostalgia is Real.
The way shredder lands in the intro is so smooth. Epic entrance
The original Shao Khan lol
Fuck yeah, a lot of similarities between Vader and Shredder. Awesome villain, intro and gangster way to go out...whipping a dagger at your enemy
Epic comment
Shao Khan didn't exist until '92 after MK...Shredder existed way earlier.
Drake Draven That's why he said "original shao kahn"
They re did it on the new batman and ninja turtles crossover movie!