I bought a 2018 XLT 3.3L and I and really happy with it. I have recently added a tonneau cover and my milage is even better. I wanted something basic no turbos and no 10 speed.
Funny how it's a struggle for the automotive world to return to simplicity with everything turbo and stupid transmission problems. I like this truck. The dual cam timing is technology enough, that's where it counts. Do you know if this 6 speed is the same that was in the 2011 version? I drove that and Loved it with the 5.0L. I don't care if the 3.3L is less HP, bordering on 300 is loads already.
That 6 speed transmission and cyclone engine is a very smooth combo compared to this jerky technocrap that is the 10speed auto. It shifts like a muthafucker every few seconds up and down.
Thanks for your input. I'm heavily leaning towards a 3.3/6speed myself. I understand some of the quirks must've been worked out by now in 2020 but if I plan on keeping the truck long term, it does raise longevity questions. Also, what a beautiful neighborhood. Congrats.
GREAT VIDEO. I am shopping for a used f-150 and was wary of the NA v6, but the deals on the v6 are a lot better, and seeing I do not anticipate heavy towing seems the right way to go.
Jay Hearnshawe 1 pull a 20ft utility trailer loaded with a 4 seater rzr and 2 quads and full loaded crew cab inside with my 2016 f150 3.5 n/a pulls it like nothing
It's because ford has the 10 speed program that way to skip gears but my mechanic changed the shift program in mine to shift every gear and now I love my 10 speed
I wondered about this....people are ragging on Ford,but its a joint venture between Ford and GM?.There are some issues with the GM variant,and I thought its got to be programming?Its basically the same damn tranny!!!!.
I have a f 150 3.3 l crew cab and I tow 5000 lbs and I have averaged 13 mpg over thousands of miles with a high of 16 mpg to a to a tank. This motor is awesome.
I bought an 18 2.7L with the 10 speed tranny. During the first two weeks the shifting felt off like shift points were off. Took it to dealer and mechanic said it takes 1,500 miles to “learn” driving style. I thought he was full of sh$t but I already owned it so I drove it home. Very gradually the vehicle started to shift smoother and smoother. We took it in for oil change at 5,000 miles and the mechanic asked me about the tranny. I said it took a little longer than 1,500 miles but yes it’s smooth. He said that because two people were driving it while it was learning. I guess he was right. The only shift we feel now is from first to second gear and it’s very slight and you have to be looking for it or you will not feel it. The other gears are super smooth, cannot feel it shift! No joke. It’s a great transmission and the vehicle is freaking awesome. Best vehicle I have ever owned. Thank you for the vid on the 3.3L. I have seen a few and the engine sounds tight. The wife would like a second truck and I may buy a 3.3L F-150, they really drop the price to move them. Enjoy your truck. Peace
I’ve been running my 2018 3.3L 6 speed for about four years now. She may lack some speed but I couldn’t be happier. Got it with 16k and we’re at 83k as of today. Thank god I’ve never had to do anything but change the oil. I’m thinking this one staying in the family.
To anyone listening. The dashboard by the defroster buckles. This is covered by the warranty. The is a very common problem. Please check your dash on passenger side. Stand outside and look. It's a 8hr job according to my dealer. I hope this reaches someone in time. That is a very expensive fix. Check NOW! Save yourself!!!!
Does it solve it permanently or just a matter of time until it buckles again? My truck is currently at the dealer getting a new dash but I’m worried it’ll just happen again.
I have a 2018 xl 150 super cab 4x4 with 3.3. It’ll move anything I need it to. I’ve got over 25 mpg loaded. No complaints. When it’s time to trade I’ll get another one.
Good video. Would have loved to hear more about the 3.3 V6 which was really why I clicked on the video, but I'm happy for the head's up on the 10-speed tranny. Will certainly watch the shift points when test driving.
I considered one of these. I was able to find one with the 3.73 rear end gears which is going to help out. The problem is most of those trucks have few options. It didn't have the locking rear diff which was a deal breaker for me. In the midwest with snow you don't always need it but when you do its nice to have. Unfortunately when running the numbers it was just as cheap to buy a f250 as it was a 150 (cheaper in some cases). I ended up with a 2019 f250 gas which I love so far. Same boat though. No turbos, 6.2 gas, 6 speed. Hopefully less to go wrong over the years.
I live on Vancouver Island which has lots of hills and I barely do any highway driving and I get 15 liters per 100km (16 mph ). It goes down quite a bit when I do go on the highway.
I have a 2021 5.0 10 speed with ~1500 miles on it right now, it does seem to be driving better the longer I drive it, my main concern right now is there is a delay going into drive sometimes, like it will roll back if I'm on an incline going from R to D. Probably going to take it to the dealer soon for that. The 10 speed is kind of a bummer because I love the 5.0, sometimes it's great, sometimes it just has weird quirks and doesn't know how to shift or respond to how I'm driving. Most of the time I have a light foot because I don't really beat on my truck, but sometimes I want to use my 5.0 and it gets confused.
it notice the same issue, especially during local driving and at traffic stops. perhaps it has to do with the combination of cylinder deactivation and the 10-spd transmission
@@BigTankDriver101 I still have the truck and never took it in, I did a PCM relearn and it made little to no difference. I'm starting to suspect the same thing as the harsh down shifts at low speeds and general odd behavior doesn't seem to be an issue on 2.7s/3.5s from what I see. I have a modified exhaust so I'm hyper aware of when cylinder deactivation happens, and I can definitely see how essentially causing misfires while the PCM is deciding how/when to shift could cause issues. I'm just hoping there's a simple way to disable cylinder deactivation at some point, or a way to modify drive modes so that you could use say sport mode, or tow haul which both disable CD but without the shift behavior of either.
Something else to consider...i just replaced a 4spd w od transmission in my 2001 f150. At the local transmission shop i paid about $3550. How much u thnk a new 10 speeds gonna cost in 12 years?
Also bought one of these 3.3l extended cab 2018 models a couple of months ago new. Absolutely love it, and the best part is it's the cheapest engine option. Anybody looking to buy a new F150 should take a hard look at this engine. If you don't need to tow heavy loads, it's the only way to go.
No problems. Like I said I love this engine, however I only have 4000 or so miles on it, so not really a long term review yet. I don't at all feel a lack of power. Like I said if you don't have to tow heavy loads I think this engine is the way to go. I'm mostly using it for daily driving and light towing, and I don't see any need or point in getting either the 5.0L or the ecoboost engine with the added complexity of turbo's.
Thank you for your report and I am sorry to hear you had a hard time with 3.5L V6 with 10 speed transmission. I drive 2018 Expedition with 3.5L V6 with 10 speed, and it just passed 10K miles. It is not F150 but I think they are basically the same motor and transmission, so I hope to share my experiences of different outcomes. My Expedition is a very smooth and quiet truck and I am always impressed with the 10 speed transmission about its smoothness without any noticeable shift shocks at all. I use Normal mode (2WD) and Sports mode (4WD) interchangeably, and each has different characteristic of engine rev. and gear shifting. I enjoy both modes (especially Sports, but it is too much of fun, so I use it in limited times to save gas) and have never had strange feel or issues on the 10 speed transmission so far. According to the gear indicator, gears are skipped like 1 to 3 to 5 to 7 and such. I appreciate the factory shift settings, I feel they are optimum with using the capacity of 10 gears efficiently, so that a driver can feel acceleration very naturally and smoothly. There may be some differences in the gear - motor rev. setting between Expedition and F150, which caused the issues that you experienced. That I do not know, and hoping someone in the TH-cam community can tell the reason why.
I have a 2018 2.7L with ten speed. I will admit the first 1,000 miles or so were pretty jerky but since then it is butter. No searching for gears, 8, 9 and 10th gear shifts so smoothly you cannot feel it. And from a dead stop its as smooth as glass. I love the 10 speed.
That’s good to hear, cause my 21 one is way more jerky than my 2017 6 speed with the 2.7. I have noticed the driving experience has been getting better and better, I think it’s like adjusting to how I drive. But I’ve had way more jerky moments in the first 500 miles than I do now
That 10 speed was the best trans Iv ever driven. Smooth, quick, and read my mind. It wasnt fully "learned" yet for your test drive. It would have been paired perfect with this 3.3 its too bad they discontinued it. I liked my 2.7 but got annoyed how u had to switch drive modes and its tunes, and the turbos needing replacing {eventually, they seem reliable} was
@@84fiveo not sure why but I was thrilled when I went under mine to see the heavy aluminum oil pan. My guess is it has to do with the production date and the switch over to the plastic pan. So glad no plastic for mine. Engine is completely dry also I see some with the plastic pan and they are somewhat wet in areas.
@@TommyG11814 Thank you for the info. I have had my eye on a 2019 with the 3.3 for a while (to avoid the 10 speed), and finally worked out a deal on it, so pulled the trigger. Unfortunately it has the goofy plastic pan and plug, which is a bit disappointing, not looking forward to draining the break-in oil.
Also have a 18 3.3. Completely agree the 3.3 and transmission tuning is absolutely on point. Ford nailed it with that combo. I had a 18 2.7 10 speed truck with a loaner for two weeks and absolutely hated the 10 speed. It was so jerky and just unrefined feeling.
I got one with 20,000 miles on it and the smoothest shifting tranny Iv ever drove. Reading the comments here, it seems it takes a few thousand miles to iron out the "learning" part of it.
Hi zzgeorgez Dane! I have a 3.3L , 2020, I've always liked that I learned to change plugs and oil on my vehicles. I can hardly wait till someone posts a video on how to change the plugs on THIS model. The three plugs on the driver-side are easy enough to see, but the passenger side plugs are underneath this intake cover, I believe, and there are components attached to it that appear to be complicated to remove in order to expose the three plugs underneath. Yikes ! Got my fingers crossed! 😊
@@KF1 hello...I have not removed anything as of yet. There is the main large tube to the air box, and four other connectors which include a metal tube attachment on this plastic cover. Seems to be an easy, accessible set of things to work on, but I'd prefer to see zzgeorgeez do a video......when I say things are "easy" they usually turn to crap. Thanks for asking.
@@tenebraygrace4099 Thanks and yessir, that's been my experience as well. I've broken 3 bolts on my truck in different places, but thankfully yours isn't old and rusted, or a gm product. Congrats on the 3.3L choice. Maybe you should be the one to make the video.
That's amazing highway gas mileage, same as what I got in my 3.3 Hyundai SUV! I've done fine with a 5.0 and 10 speed but my best mileage is 22 which is still good.
ive had 5.0 with 10spd for last 8 months and im starting to hate 10spd transmission more and more , gear skipping is not smooth at all , jerking , rattling , odd vibrations between shifts, name it.. anything that can bug someone when it comes to how transmission should feel fords 10spd has it
@@MrInzombia I'm at 45000 km nothing has changed. Few people I know have same truck as I do and skipping / slipping of gears doesn't feel right to them either . Some days truck shifts seamless some days feels like drive shaft loose and cluncks when it's shifting
@@BB-nn9en tow mode keeps slight higher RPMs and lower gear but its not really for daily driving . Hauled up to 6000 to 7000 pounds and it's fine but not as daily . Even in sport mode when it tries to shift faster clunks . It's just a ford thing . Not worried about lol
I have a ‘19 STX with a 2.7/10-speed, and am seriously considering trading it in on a ‘20 XLT Sport with a 3.3 I found on AutoTrader. The 10-speed is starting to worry me after hearing multiple horror stories, and the 3.3 gets it in 2021. Last chance for the 6R80.
I get 19mpg on my 2.7 10speed with a 16ft trailer. Unreal mpg. BUT. That 10speed is trash. About to take my truck in because the trans is slipping into 4th & whenever I'm on half throttle or more. 80,000miles. Smh
2018 with a 3.3 now have 52,000 miles. Great truck untill I try to tow my cabin water trailer 500 gallons. Falls flat on its face! If you do not tow, buy it!
I'd venture to say the 3.3 is less proven than the ten speed transmission. It's still fairly new, on its second year. I know it's all in the programming, but the ten speed in the Mustang GT is freaking amazing. I can see where in the truck that it would hunt for gears way more often.
4.2 was also underrated. Lil loud but nice torque curve considering its very, very old internal design. It was a turd in Econoline vans but 4x2 f150s and Ford Freestar minivans got this mill and it worked geat, very reliable beyond 300k miles... automatic transmissions were not so good back then unformally. Good you have the m5od
Just traded the 2018 3.3 for a 2022 2.7 with the 10 speed. The 3.3 was great, zero problems for 70k. Loving the 2.7 will run 80 mpg in 10th gear with no effort. It's also getting better gas mileage than the 3.3 because it not working nearly as hard. Sorry to disagree but would not go back to the 3.3 after owning the 2.7.
I have a 2020 5.0 and it's rattling more the more i drive it. The 10 speed was pretty smooth and now its also shifting, jerking, upshifting and downshifting excessively.I also get a thump when i turn it on sometimes, and also when shifting between PRND And i just hit 6000 miles smh. Other than that it's an awesome truck and I really enjoyed it. Let's see how long it'll last
I had a 19 that bit the dust at 168k. It was a 5.0 10 speed. It used oil from the beginning and the 10 speed was awful. The previous 5 F150's I used for work were run hard and loaded to gvw always and they all went well over 200k. Needless to say Ford needs to get their act together before I'll consider another one.
@@LuisMedina-nx8kz toyota tundra will always be the best truck in world. Ty Luus for the reminder. Problem they sell like hotcakes and dealers often cant keep any in stock. So a lot of tines i have to go buy a POS Ford.
My mileage sucks on anything i drive (its a work truck) cuz i run around town and write construction job estimates with engine iidling and ac on in Texas. But its all relative. This is most efficient truck ive had yet. For whatever its worth. On vacation trips mpg is amazing though 22-27mpg, pretty amazing.
Did you catch hes towing an enclosed trailer? These get Crown Victoria mpgs basically. 18 city 22 mix and mid 20s highway depending on if that means 65 or 80 in your state.
I have a 19 with the 3.3l and its a fantastic motor. Does everything i need it to
I bought a 2018 XLT 3.3L and I and really happy with it. I have recently added a tonneau cover and my milage is even better. I wanted something basic no turbos and no 10 speed.
I have the same truck on 33” and still gets great mileage
Funny how it's a struggle for the automotive world to return to simplicity with everything turbo and stupid transmission problems.
I like this truck. The dual cam timing is technology enough, that's where it counts.
Do you know if this 6 speed is the same that was in the 2011 version? I drove that and Loved it with the 5.0L. I don't care if the 3.3L is less HP, bordering on 300 is loads already.
I have a 2019 with the 3.3 and love it, very smooth
That 6 speed transmission and cyclone engine is a very smooth combo compared to this jerky technocrap that is the 10speed auto. It shifts like a muthafucker every few seconds up and down.
Is yours a crewcab 4×4 i like to know if this engine would still be adequate in that application.
@@davidilijevski8942 mine is extended cab and rear wheel drive
Thank you for your experiences and results on this.
Trying to learn about the 3.3 and 2.7 engines.
Thanks for your input. I'm heavily leaning towards a 3.3/6speed myself. I understand some of the quirks must've been worked out by now in 2020 but if I plan on keeping the truck long term, it does raise longevity questions.
Also, what a beautiful neighborhood. Congrats.
The 3.3 gets no love, thanks for the vid!
You look like your driving on Crystal falls in Leander tx
GREAT VIDEO. I am shopping for a used f-150 and was wary of the NA v6, but the deals on the v6 are a lot better, and seeing I do not anticipate heavy towing seems the right way to go.
Jay Hearnshawe 1 pull a 20ft utility trailer loaded with a 4 seater rzr and 2 quads and full loaded crew cab inside with my 2016 f150 3.5 n/a pulls it like nothing
Don't be afraid of the 3.3 it does a great job very clean engine compartment
It's because ford has the 10 speed program that way to skip gears but my mechanic changed the shift program in mine to shift every gear and now I love my 10 speed
I wondered about this....people are ragging on Ford,but its a joint venture between Ford and GM?.There are some issues with the GM variant,and I thought
its got to be programming?Its basically the same damn tranny!!!!.
I have a f 150 3.3 l crew cab and I tow 5000 lbs and I have averaged 13 mpg over thousands of miles with a high of 16 mpg to a to a tank. This motor is awesome.
I bought an 18 2.7L with the 10 speed tranny. During the first two weeks the shifting felt off like shift points were off. Took it to dealer and mechanic said it takes 1,500 miles to “learn” driving style. I thought he was full of sh$t but I already owned it so I drove it home. Very gradually the vehicle started to shift smoother and smoother. We took it in for oil change at 5,000 miles and the mechanic asked me about the tranny. I said it took a little longer than 1,500 miles but yes it’s smooth. He said that because two people were driving it while it was learning. I guess he was right. The only shift we feel now is from first to second gear and it’s very slight and you have to be looking for it or you will not feel it. The other gears are super smooth, cannot feel it shift! No joke. It’s a great transmission and the vehicle is freaking awesome. Best vehicle I have ever owned.
Thank you for the vid on the 3.3L. I have seen a few and the engine sounds tight. The wife would like a second truck and I may buy a 3.3L F-150, they really drop the price to move them. Enjoy your truck. Peace
I appreciate the video. I am not a huge fan of the 10 speed automatic transmission. The base 6 speed automatic feels planted and proper.
600mile test drives? Nice Haha I'll remember that next time I go on vacation!
I’ve been running my 2018 3.3L 6 speed for about four years now. She may lack some speed but I couldn’t be happier. Got it with 16k and we’re at 83k as of today. Thank god I’ve never had to do anything but change the oil. I’m thinking this one staying in the family.
It's Tourqe is what It's lacking. A little annoying but not a deal breaker. 91k. Bought @ 40k. No problems. Knock on wood.
To anyone listening. The dashboard by the defroster buckles. This is covered by the warranty. The is a very common problem. Please check your dash on passenger side. Stand outside and look. It's a 8hr job according to my dealer. I hope this reaches someone in time. That is a very expensive fix. Check NOW! Save yourself!!!!
Does it solve it permanently or just a matter of time until it buckles again? My truck is currently at the dealer getting a new dash but I’m worried it’ll just happen again.
@@curseup mine hasn't buckled since replacing. Not sure if its fixed. I block the sun off my dash now
Mine is raised around the defrost vents but I’d rather just not worry about it then someone pull my dash apart.
I have a 2018 xl 150 super cab 4x4 with 3.3. It’ll move anything I need it to. I’ve got over 25 mpg loaded. No complaints. When it’s time to trade I’ll get another one.
Good video. Would have loved to hear more about the 3.3 V6 which was really why I clicked on the video, but I'm happy for the head's up on the 10-speed tranny. Will certainly watch the shift points when test driving.
I love my 3.3 with the 6 speed I would highly recommend it
Great video 👍, I have the 2017 super crew XLT with the 3.5l naturally aspirated and I love it. Great truck and love the 6 speed. Thanks
Is there any diff between the two ? Im looking into the v6 N/a engines just not sure what year ..
I considered one of these. I was able to find one with the 3.73 rear end gears which is going to help out. The problem is most of those trucks have few options. It didn't have the locking rear diff which was a deal breaker for me. In the midwest with snow you don't always need it but when you do its nice to have. Unfortunately when running the numbers it was just as cheap to buy a f250 as it was a 150 (cheaper in some cases). I ended up with a 2019 f250 gas which I love so far. Same boat though. No turbos, 6.2 gas, 6 speed. Hopefully less to go wrong over the years.
What are the major differences between the 3.73 and 3.55 gearing?
Think I may have found my next truck lol.
It seems like the 10 spd is now the only option for the 3.3 for 2022 according to Ford's website
Big fan of the 3.3! Great video
Been thinking about getting the 3.3 standard cab. Thanks for the info
I have had my supercab 7 months and I have no complaints.
@@mcstews please tell me about the gas mileage. Need a honest opinion
I live on Vancouver Island which has lots of hills and I barely do any highway driving and I get 15 liters per 100km (16 mph ). It goes down quite a bit when I do go on the highway.
city driving I get about 700km (435miles) a tank.
@@mcstews thanks for the info.
I have a 2021 5.0 10 speed with ~1500 miles on it right now, it does seem to be driving better the longer I drive it, my main concern right now is there is a delay going into drive sometimes, like it will roll back if I'm on an incline going from R to D. Probably going to take it to the dealer soon for that. The 10 speed is kind of a bummer because I love the 5.0, sometimes it's great, sometimes it just has weird quirks and doesn't know how to shift or respond to how I'm driving. Most of the time I have a light foot because I don't really beat on my truck, but sometimes I want to use my 5.0 and it gets confused.
it notice the same issue, especially during local driving and at traffic stops. perhaps it has to do with the combination of cylinder deactivation and the 10-spd transmission
@@BigTankDriver101 I still have the truck and never took it in, I did a PCM relearn and it made little to no difference. I'm starting to suspect the same thing as the harsh down shifts at low speeds and general odd behavior doesn't seem to be an issue on 2.7s/3.5s from what I see. I have a modified exhaust so I'm hyper aware of when cylinder deactivation happens, and I can definitely see how essentially causing misfires while the PCM is deciding how/when to shift could cause issues. I'm just hoping there's a simple way to disable cylinder deactivation at some point, or a way to modify drive modes so that you could use say sport mode, or tow haul which both disable CD but without the shift behavior of either.
Something else to consider...i just replaced a 4spd w od transmission in my 2001 f150. At the local transmission shop i paid about $3550. How much u thnk a new 10 speeds gonna cost in 12 years?
zzgeoergez Dane easily double
Im looking at a 2019 f 150 3.3 liter 4x4 with the 6 speed...thinkin it would be a good one 60,000 miles.
Also bought one of these 3.3l extended cab 2018 models a couple of months ago new. Absolutely love it, and the best part is it's the cheapest engine option. Anybody looking to buy a new F150 should take a hard look at this engine. If you don't need to tow heavy loads, it's the only way to go.
I'm in the market. How has yours held up?
No problems. Like I said I love this engine, however I only have 4000 or so miles on it, so not really a long term review yet. I don't at all feel a lack of power. Like I said if you don't have to tow heavy loads I think this engine is the way to go. I'm mostly using it for daily driving and light towing, and I don't see any need or point in getting either the 5.0L or the ecoboost engine with the added complexity of turbo's.
@@joeblow4888 I need something that starts everytime for 20 years. Driving to look at an XL on Saturday. Love the gas mileage with the 3.3
Thank you for your report and I am sorry to hear you had a hard time with 3.5L V6 with 10 speed transmission. I drive 2018 Expedition with 3.5L V6 with 10 speed, and it just passed 10K miles. It is not F150 but I think they are basically the same motor and transmission, so I hope to share my experiences of different outcomes. My Expedition is a very smooth and quiet truck and I am always impressed with the 10 speed transmission about its smoothness without any noticeable shift shocks at all. I use Normal mode (2WD) and Sports mode (4WD) interchangeably, and each has different characteristic of engine rev. and gear shifting. I enjoy both modes (especially Sports, but it is too much of fun, so I use it in limited times to save gas) and have never had strange feel or issues on the 10 speed transmission so far. According to the gear indicator, gears are skipped like 1 to 3 to 5 to 7 and such. I appreciate the factory shift settings, I feel they are optimum with using the capacity of 10 gears efficiently, so that a driver can feel acceleration very naturally and smoothly. There may be some differences in the gear - motor rev. setting between Expedition and F150, which caused the issues that you experienced.
That I do not know, and hoping someone in the TH-cam community can tell the reason why.
I have a 2018 2.7L with ten speed. I will admit the first 1,000 miles or so were pretty jerky but since then it is butter. No searching for gears, 8, 9 and 10th gear shifts so smoothly you cannot feel it. And from a dead stop its as smooth as glass. I love the 10 speed.
That’s good to hear, cause my 21 one is way more jerky than my 2017 6 speed with the 2.7. I have noticed the driving experience has been getting better and better, I think it’s like adjusting to how I drive. But I’ve had way more jerky moments in the first 500 miles than I do now
I have a 2011 with the 3.7L base v6. I've had issues with the transmission but the engine has been great.
And the 3.3l is just a debored 3.7l
That 10 speed was the best trans Iv ever driven. Smooth, quick, and read my mind. It wasnt fully "learned" yet for your test drive. It would have been paired perfect with this 3.3 its too bad they discontinued it. I liked my 2.7 but got annoyed how u had to switch drive modes and its tunes, and the turbos needing replacing {eventually, they seem reliable} was
Also big fan of the 3.3
I have metal pan and metal plug.
Yes mine also, I was so glad to not see that plastic pan and plug.
Did they change it to metal for 2019? Or is it just random with some getting metal and some getting plastic?
@@84fiveo not sure why but I was thrilled when I went under mine to see the heavy aluminum oil pan. My guess is it has to do with the production date and the switch over to the plastic pan. So glad no plastic for mine. Engine is completely dry also I see some with the plastic pan and they are somewhat wet in areas.
@@TommyG11814 Thank you for the info. I have had my eye on a 2019 with the 3.3 for a while (to avoid the 10 speed), and finally worked out a deal on it, so pulled the trigger. Unfortunately it has the goofy plastic pan and plug, which is a bit disappointing, not looking forward to draining the break-in oil.
I have a 2018 3.5 eco with the 10speed. I miss my six speed. I can’t stand the way the 10 shifts.
i can t feel my 10 speed even shifting..annoys me to. Feels like a belt drive
I’ve notice with more miles, it shifts a little better as she ages. When she was new, I almost wanted to return the truck.
Also have a 18 3.3. Completely agree the 3.3 and transmission tuning is absolutely on point. Ford nailed it with that combo. I had a 18 2.7 10 speed truck with a loaner for two weeks and absolutely hated the 10 speed. It was so jerky and just unrefined feeling.
I got one with 20,000 miles on it and the smoothest shifting tranny Iv ever drove. Reading the comments here, it seems it takes a few thousand miles to iron out the "learning" part of it.
@@tieoneon1614 some of them never learn it’s a documented issue with a TSB
After this 10 speed lawsuit fiasco has come to light I'd say you dodged a bullet.
Hi zzgeorgez Dane! I have a 3.3L , 2020, I've always liked that I learned to change plugs and oil on my vehicles. I can hardly wait till someone posts a video on how to change the plugs on THIS model. The three plugs on the driver-side are easy enough to see, but the passenger side plugs are underneath this intake cover, I believe, and there are components attached to it that appear to be complicated to remove in order to expose the three plugs underneath. Yikes ! Got my fingers crossed! 😊
Was it a lot of work getting everything out of the way?
@@KF1 hello...I have not removed anything as of yet. There is the main large tube to the air box, and four other connectors which include a metal tube attachment on this plastic cover. Seems to be an easy, accessible set of things to work on, but I'd prefer to see zzgeorgeez do a video......when I say things are "easy" they usually turn to crap. Thanks for asking.
@@tenebraygrace4099 Thanks and yessir, that's been my experience as well. I've broken 3 bolts on my truck in different places, but thankfully yours isn't old and rusted, or a gm product.
Congrats on the 3.3L choice. Maybe you should be the one to make the video.
That's amazing highway gas mileage, same as what I got in my 3.3 Hyundai SUV! I've done fine with a 5.0 and 10 speed but my best mileage is 22 which is still good.
What happens when the internal water pump fails or needs to be changed? Ask the mechanic ull see.
What internal pump are u talking about
Water pump is inside the engine. Engine needs to taken apart to replace it. If it fails it can ruin the entire engine.
You’re water pump failed after only two years?
That's only on the 3.5 and 3.7 base models. The 3.3 has an external waterpump. The internal works ok but you have to do regular oil changes.
@@marvinnicklas7638 Does the 2.7L PFDI engine have an internal water pump too?
ive had 5.0 with 10spd for last 8 months and im starting to hate 10spd transmission more and more , gear skipping is not smooth at all , jerking , rattling , odd vibrations between shifts, name it.. anything that can bug someone when it comes to how transmission should feel fords 10spd has it
yup, 10 speed is a very jerky ride. Same with mine. It skips gears, down shifts, upshifts like crazy. I fken hate it.
Try tow mode. I believe in tow mode it doesn’t skip gears
@@MrInzombia I'm at 45000 km nothing has changed. Few people I know have same truck as I do and skipping / slipping of gears doesn't feel right to them either . Some days truck shifts seamless some days feels like drive shaft loose and cluncks when it's shifting
@@BB-nn9en tow mode keeps slight higher RPMs and lower gear but its not really for daily driving . Hauled up to 6000 to 7000 pounds and it's fine but not as daily . Even in sport mode when it tries to shift faster clunks . It's just a ford thing . Not worried about lol
I have a ‘19 STX with a 2.7/10-speed, and am seriously considering trading it in on a ‘20 XLT Sport with a 3.3 I found on AutoTrader. The 10-speed is starting to worry me after hearing multiple horror stories, and the 3.3 gets it in 2021. Last chance for the 6R80.
I get 19mpg on my 2.7 10speed with a 16ft trailer. Unreal mpg. BUT. That 10speed is trash. About to take my truck in because the trans is slipping into 4th & whenever I'm on half throttle or more. 80,000miles. Smh
Longevity????
2018 with a 3.3 now have 52,000 miles. Great truck untill I try to tow my cabin water trailer 500 gallons. Falls flat on its face! If you do not tow, buy it!
How is your truck spec out?
You never really hear much about the 3.3L
so the zf 8 still the king
Are you sure it doesn’t have twin turbos?
I'd venture to say the 3.3 is less proven than the ten speed transmission. It's still fairly new, on its second year. I know it's all in the programming, but the ten speed in the Mustang GT is freaking amazing. I can see where in the truck that it would hunt for gears way more often.
Its part of the Cyclone family thats been around since 2007, its fine
3.3 now has 10 speed
Why even buy a truck?just continue taking test drives!
I wish Ford would give us a proper transmission with 3 pedals, even on the base V6. Looks like ill be driving my 07 4.2 manual into the ground.
4.2 was also underrated. Lil loud but nice torque curve considering its very, very old internal design. It was a turd in Econoline vans but 4x2 f150s and Ford Freestar minivans got this mill and it worked geat, very reliable beyond 300k miles... automatic transmissions were not so good back then unformally. Good you have the m5od
Mr Anderson Had the 4.2 with 5 speed in my 02 F150. Excellent truck till hurricane Katrina took it away. 😞 😢
@@workingcountry1776 yeah the trans in this 07 4.2 just exploded at 130k
A tuned 5.0 10 speed is a monster though
just got rid of mine, ugly mess as a daily.
I love my 2020 F150 10 speed! It’s slick and performs. The 3.3 drove and performed like a four cylinder when I test drove it.
I have the 2017 base 3.5 I love it so far
X1000 Rpm goes to 8. Yet another excuse to say that it’s like a car or a minivan
Just traded the 2018 3.3 for a 2022 2.7 with the 10 speed. The 3.3 was great, zero problems for 70k. Loving the 2.7 will run 80 mpg in 10th gear with no effort.
It's also getting better gas mileage than the 3.3 because it not working nearly as hard.
Sorry to disagree but would not go back to the 3.3 after owning the 2.7.
What gear ratio do you have?
3.55 regular axle.
I dumped my 2018 5.0 /10 spd after 11k. 10 spd was terrible.
I rented a 2019 F302 with the 10 speed and I liked it. It was not as good on gas as my 2016 F165.
I have a 2019 5.0 10 speed no they didn't fix it it still sucks
Does your 5.0 burn oil? That’s a common problem with those ever since 2018.
I have a 2020 5.0 and it's rattling more the more i drive it. The 10 speed was pretty smooth and now its also shifting, jerking, upshifting and downshifting excessively.I also get a thump when i turn it on sometimes, and also when shifting between PRND And i just hit 6000 miles smh. Other than that it's an awesome truck and I really enjoyed it. Let's see how long it'll last
I had a 19 that bit the dust at 168k. It was a 5.0 10 speed. It used oil from the beginning and the 10 speed was awful. The previous 5 F150's I used for work were run hard and loaded to gvw always and they all went well over 200k. Needless to say Ford needs to get their act together before I'll consider another one.
This is why I stick to the 3 speed autos.
So you can get 15 second 0-60 times, 5 mpg, and a top speed of 80?
I work at Ford, I rather have the 10 speed.
These 10 speeds suck.. rough shifting clunking ... I will never buy another Ford
It's AN ENGINE not a MOTOR
I have 2018 Ford f150 crew cab xlt brand new worst truck in my life, no power, transmission noise .....
Toyota tundra best truck
Thanks, I'll try to watcb use of that word.
@@LuisMedina-nx8kz toyota tundra will always be the best truck in world. Ty Luus for the reminder. Problem they sell like hotcakes and dealers often cant keep any in stock. So a lot of tines i have to go buy a POS Ford.
@@LuisMedina-nx8kz yup, should have test driven a tundra. Theyre always the best.
Yeah but your mpg sucks
My mileage sucks on anything i drive (its a work truck) cuz i run around town and write construction job estimates with engine iidling and ac on in Texas. But its all relative. This is most efficient truck ive had yet. For whatever its worth. On vacation trips mpg is amazing though 22-27mpg, pretty amazing.
Did you catch hes towing an enclosed trailer? These get Crown Victoria mpgs basically. 18 city 22 mix and mid 20s highway depending on if that means 65 or 80 in your state.