Throw in dementia, stuff does, does not get delivered where or when it should. Hallucinations in darkness and light, vision obscured as real or imagined stimuli occurs. Thank you Chris for another great video, grateful for you!
The entirety of perceptual experience is a neuronal fantasy that remains yoked to the world through a continuous making and remaking of perceptual best guesses, of controlled hallucinations. You could even say that we’re all hallucinating all the time. It’s just that when we agree about our hallucinations, that’s what we call reality. - Anil Seth
But we do see light in a dream right? So can't we say that the perception of light is product by the brain, although requiring external photons as such in most cases?
But by design it does make sense. Photons are invisible, hence the universe is "dark". The rays from the sun are invisible even though they fill the entire solar system. If photons were visible we wouldn't see anything except photons. Light is the rendering of photons in the brain. In contrast, when someone with a hearing impairment regains the ability to hear, they are hugely surprised and disappointed that sunrise is silent and makes no sound
Well, it doesn't matter, because the only thing that matters is... Life. And life is much easier with the comforts we enjoy in the West and everybody else so badly wants, that materialism has provided, like electricity, and hot water, and climate control shelter, and domestic machines, and robots in factories, and fast transportation, and endless foods and drinks, and health care, and entertainment, and plush beds, etc, etc, etc. You name it, we are all living it, or we wouldn't be watching TH-cams. So when we don't need to work so hard simply to exist, we have lots of extra time on our hands to meditate, ponder the meaning of life and debate other unproductive ideas-all thanks to materialism.
We are very close in our meaning....I'm also a materialist in the sense that sensing the material world is the secret to feeling joy, it's just that in my view there is no external separate material world, it is consciousness that makes the material appear. And yes, these new devices give us extra time I'm just not sure that is the gift it appears to be because with this extra time, we tend to spend it thinking all day and a wondering mind is an unhappy mind.
@@chris5264 "Consciousness" is as much of an idea as "ego", that's the problem. It cannot make anything "appear", because it cannot be separated from the material world. Where is it, if it can? That would be TRUE duality, wouldn''t it?
@Nothining Well, yes, I understand that, thanks. So yes, we humans are the ones that have created the word "consciousness" and assigned a meaning of separation to it, as in there is "conscousness" and then there is "matter". Well, that's impossible. And that's an example of an abstraction that is an illusion, or that makes people think that the map is the road.
@Nothining I don't mean that abstractions are not real, in fact, to be real they have to point to something concrete in reality. What I mean is that this particular word, "consciousness", does not point to reality when it speaks of something separate from matter. The word "conciousness" can point to, let's say, a being that is awake rather than asleep, or a person that has fainted and lost "consciousness". But the word "consciousness" cannot be used to speak of something separate from matter, because that's an illusion.
Throw in dementia, stuff does, does not get delivered where or when it should. Hallucinations in darkness and light, vision obscured as real or imagined stimuli occurs. Thank you Chris for another great video, grateful for you!
The analogy is perfect for understanding consciousness.
very interesting, thanks!
While these photons my be going in my eyes, this topic went over my head. 😕
I already had a follow up "in mind" hopefully that will help
The entirety of perceptual experience is a neuronal fantasy that remains yoked to the world through a continuous making and remaking of perceptual best guesses, of controlled hallucinations. You could even say that we’re all hallucinating all the time. It’s just that when we agree about our hallucinations, that’s what we call reality. - Anil Seth
But we do see light in a dream right? So can't we say that the perception of light is product by the brain, although requiring external photons as such in most cases?
But by design it does make sense. Photons are invisible, hence the universe is "dark". The rays from the sun are invisible even though they fill the entire solar system. If photons were visible we wouldn't see anything except photons. Light is the rendering of photons in the brain. In contrast, when someone with a hearing impairment regains the ability to hear, they are hugely surprised and disappointed that sunrise is silent and makes no sound
Well, it doesn't matter, because the only thing that matters is... Life. And life is much easier with the comforts we enjoy in the West and everybody else so badly wants, that materialism has provided, like electricity, and hot water, and climate control shelter, and domestic machines, and robots in factories, and fast transportation, and endless foods and drinks, and health care, and entertainment, and plush beds, etc, etc, etc. You name it, we are all living it, or we wouldn't be watching TH-cams. So when we don't need to work so hard simply to exist, we have lots of extra time on our hands to meditate, ponder the meaning of life and debate other unproductive ideas-all thanks to materialism.
We are very close in our meaning....I'm also a materialist in the sense that sensing the material world is the secret to feeling joy, it's just that in my view there is no external separate material world, it is consciousness that makes the material appear. And yes, these new devices give us extra time I'm just not sure that is the gift it appears to be because with this extra time, we tend to spend it thinking all day and a wondering mind is an unhappy mind.
@@chris5264 "Consciousness" is as much of an idea as "ego", that's the problem. It cannot make anything "appear", because it cannot be separated from the material world. Where is it, if it can? That would be TRUE duality, wouldn''t it?
@Nothining I have no idea what you wrote. Sorry.
@Nothining Well, yes, I understand that, thanks. So yes, we humans are the ones that have created the word "consciousness" and assigned a meaning of separation to it, as in there is "conscousness" and then there is "matter". Well, that's impossible. And that's an example of an abstraction that is an illusion, or that makes people think that the map is the road.
@Nothining I don't mean that abstractions are not real, in fact, to be real they have to point to something concrete in reality. What I mean is that this particular word, "consciousness", does not point to reality when it speaks of something separate from matter. The word "conciousness" can point to, let's say, a being that is awake rather than asleep, or a person that has fainted and lost "consciousness". But the word "consciousness" cannot be used to speak of something separate from matter, because that's an illusion.
There is no mind