A Conscious Universe? - Dr Rupert Sheldrake
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The sciences are pointing toward a new sense of a living world. The cosmos is like a developing organism, and so is our planet, Gaia. The laws of Nature may be more like habits. Partly as a result of the ‘hard problem’ of finding space for human consciousness in the materialist worldview, there is a renewed interest in panpsychist philosophies, according to which some form of mind, experience or consciousness is associated with all self-organizing systems, including atoms, molecules and plants. Maybe the sun is conscious, and so are other stars, and entire galaxies. If so, what about the mind of the universe as a whole? Rupert Sheldrake will explore some of the implications of this idea.
Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and author of more than 85 scientific papers, and was named among the top 100 Global Thought Leaders for 2013. He studied natural sciences at Cambridge University, where he was a Scholar of Clare College, took a double first class honours degree and was awarded the University Botany Prize in 1963. Dr Sheldrake then studied philosophy and the history of science at Harvard before returning to Cambridge, where he took a Ph.D. in biochemistry in 1967.
He is the author of 13 books, and in 2012 he published ‘The Science Delusion’. This book examines the ten dogmas of modern science, and shows how they can be turned into questions that open up new vistas of scientific possibility. It received the Book of the Year Award from the British Scientific and Medical Network. His most recent book: ‘Ways To Go Beyond, And Why They Work’ was published in 2019, and looks at seven spiritual practices that are personally transformative and have scientifically measurable effects. You can keep up to date with Rupert’s work on his website: www.sheldrake.org.
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find it very encouraging that about 400K people are willing to listen to a Rupert Sheldrake lecture on consciousness. Perhaps there is still some hope for humans......
Only if we stop our habits and consciously choose our path
Thanks for noting that. It's very encouraging.
Well dear doctors of doctor world. We have known this for.... peace
Like it matters!
Maybe so.
I feel like you missed the whole message if you lack faith in anything.
Whatever’s meant to be will be
I love how before the 17th century the prevailing world view was all life had consciousness, including animals & plants, planets, etc. Very unfortunate the subsequent mechanized view reducing animals to machines with no souls. Thank goodness people like yourself Dr. Sheldrake are resurrecting the subject for a greater understanding.
I agree with you that it is unfortunate that the mechanized view of animals and plants became the prevailing worldview in the centuries after the 17th century. This view reduced animals to machines with no souls, and it led to a great deal of suffering for animals.
I am hopeful that the work of Dr. Sheldrake and others will help to resurrect the subject of consciousness in animals and plants. I believe that it is important to understand that all living things are interconnected, and that we should treat all living things with respect and compassion.
the more complex the life form, the more you realize they do have consciousness. you look into a dog's eyes and immediately feel that inside their head there is a brain receiving signals from the outside world, much like us.
It was the Christian religion that made it so bad for animals, previously many animals weren't kosher etc, the Christian religion gave mankind dominion over all animals
@@Rafael-pi4md Not a brain....soul. We are soul, animals are soul.....only a different flesh vehicle for this particular lifetime.
He should have at least talked about forms of meditation that involve seeing deities/beings
Dr Sheldrake is amazing, to conduct a lecture and to explain things so simply, without prompts, without slides is incredible.
Oh my, this is so liberating! I never quite understood how it has become taboo to say something like the Sun could be a god or that trees have consciousness. I spent so much of life under the spell of scientific materialism that I'd managed to doubt all else. The consequence of the materialistic view is that it promotes the primacy of humans. How selfish! Thank you for making me feel ok with the spiritual world again.
If humankind is the custodian of the universe, we are a very bad custodian, because we didn’t report to work for 13 billion years. Human is an insignificant pop up in the universe and will pop out in a flash in the broad framework .
Very well said, I feel the same way
@@santhoshgopinath816 Human consciousness as category of consciousness, need not be limited to planet earth. I personally find that the Vedic concept of life existing on every planet, housed in the form of the predominant elements of that planet - like we find on earth - as very plausible. If humankind are custodians, it would imply respect for the idea that we did not create the universe, but should appreciate it's creation and facilities offered, and respect it as the property of the creator.
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Agree with the implication of course
@@santhoshgopinath816 Nonsense. We are no different than the rest of Nature. We are Nature being Nature. The universe knows no such thing as "good" or "bad". It just IS.
To be genius like this is one thing, but to actually tell the story uninterrupted without being all over the place or ppl losing the thread of interest, is a craft most geniuses do not have. It might look and sound great in their head or in the equations but to put it verbally in an easy and digestible format for consensus to consume and understand is a big + :)
He dealt with the fool asking bad questions really well too everyone applauds his response! What a real dude!
shame theres not more people like him these days
Please don’t laugh at me as you reading this. The awesome thing I did for myself was when I turned my backyard into a mini forest. I never felt this good and somewhat spiritual and closer to the universe. I kid you not! My mini forest consists of five 30 feet Japanese Maple Trees, one 30 feet Magnolia Tree, 12 Pine Trees about fifty feet tall, Alberta Spruce, Lilacs Trees, Smokey Bush Trees, Walnut Tree, Japanese Apple Tree, climbing trumpet flower, birds and annual flowers.
I love my backyard. When I feel sad, I walk barefoot in the backyard and hug my trees. I find joy and happiness being in the backyard. It took me 26 years of hard work and finally I’m starting to enjoy my trees. That’s how long it took those trees to grow into those heights. It’s like a condominium between those branches. So many birds are living in my trees. So cute!
Thank you everybody who’s here in the comment section. Life might be difficult for all of us but there is always bright light at the end of the tunnel .❤❤❤ I do hope and pray that we keep loving each other. We live in a troubled world. Love and kindness is stronger than negative force.❤❤❤
JESUS IS LORD
The purpose of life is to worship, praise and serve God!
TRUE Christianity is Relationship with God.
NOT MANMADE RELIGION.
Christianity is from Jesus Christ.
Jesus created mankind.
Religion is mans word.
God is INFINITELY (in the literal sense) BETTER THAN ALL THINGS!!
1. believe fully and sincerely in Jesus Christ, the Savior of all humans from sin.
2. Truly Repent of every sin, for example say "Jesus, please forgive me for all sins."
3. Become baptized (recommended, not needed but it helps), and BE SPIRITUALLY REBORN (aka Born Again).
even as a lot of these new types of enlightenment, are appropriated from pre-existing bits of oriental and Buddhist philosophy.
This "new sense" is at best accessible to only people like Dr. Rupert Sheldrake, all living inside upper class society. The rest of
humanity (say 96%) have no need nor privilege to marvel is the Sun is Conscious. Gaia's revenge is bashing million of people on earth.
Being dislocated and made homeless. Lets see Dr. Rupert Sheldrake address that misery also?
@@brazil3207 Where does it say 'Relationship' in your text of graven imagery?
Plastic toys cant give permanent joy they are just objects. Even a pet dog, cat gives more joy
@@natascockTell us more about your desire to needlessly put down others. Fix your bitterness.
An amazing direct transmission! No notes, compelling, comprehensive and convincing. Bravo Prof for your brilliance in the way you simplify a multidimensional complexity.
even as a lot of these new types of enlightenment, are appropriated from pre-existing bits of oriental and Buddhist philosophy.
This "new sense" is at best accessible to only people like Dr. Rupert Sheldrake, all living inside upper class society. The rest of
humanity (say 96%) have no need nor privilege to marvel is the Sun is Conscious. Gaia's revenge is bashing million of people on earth.
Being dislocated and made homeless. Lets see Dr. Rupert Sheldrake address that misery also?
A male docter can never experience pregnancy. He can only talk about it
Well done the feeling is mutual....
01:02:52 "I had intended to talk of morphic resonance in this talk, but I always speak from notes"
Not hard for a topic like this.
Dear Dr.Sheldrake,
You are one of the Heroes of humanity, thank You for your work!
Да, совершенно согласен!
A burbling, bourgeois Christian new-ager is no 'hero'.
A work already done centuries ago. They are only rediscovering it. Consciousness is core of spirituality in hinduism. When you raise your consciousness, you see the beauty,and life in everything. The sun also. My mother is a woman to you,a female. But to me she is all my emotions,joy, love, feelings. This can't be shown. Its unscientific. Because science rejects emotions
@@induchopra3014 Too much emotion is destroying us.
@@williamoarlock8634 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤪🥳🤯😵💫🥴
I did a night time scuba dive in Thailand. The dive itself was amazing, but when I surfaced, alone on the dark ocean pretty far from the boat but close to the island and in no real danger, I looked up to see the Milky Way in all its splendid glory. It told me very clearly that it is me. I guess we can call it a metaphysical experience, and mainstream followers of scientism would scoff and ask what I was on, but I know what I felt and was told. I know that I am part of the and that any part is of the whole. It changed my life in ways I can't begin to explain. Knowing that you are the galaxy and the galaxy is you fundamentally changes the way one sees this reality.
You had a transcendental experience which makes you a psychic to some degree. Was there moonlight when you scubed? What was the temp of the sea at the time?
A fascinating man to listen to, very engaging and doesn't 'talk down' to people. Interesting lecture.
This is the third time I've listened to this talk; one might imagine that I'd have learned by now, eh? However, each listen reveals new nuances of understanding for me. Excellent talk - brilliant mind!
There is an elephant in the room, it’s name is God realization.
I agree! Listened to the lecture twice now and plan to listen at least 2-3 times more so as to glean all from it than I am able to do.s
Know the Temple of Solomon, and you will know the Cosmos in all of its aspects;. and forget the current notion of the Third Temple. It will provide nothing at all
Brilliant mind...
I listen to him every night!
Our great grandparents would have simply and bashfully smiled if they heard this talk. Our universe is all about consciousness and the 90% unseen! Our human minds are so powerful that collective human thoughts do produce very visible results … what’s seen in our society today, ie upheavals, restlessness, political chaos … are results of many similarly collective psyches. Ever hear the saying, “society gets the politicians they deserve?” … “Watch your thoughts, they become words … words actions …” Everything one does is recorded in the universe! “Everything we do in life echoes in eternity.” ( from the movie Gladiators). I talk to plants, the birds & the bees, and yes, even my car … because I truly can and because everything is truly connected. This is how great & wonderful God’s universe just is! 🙏
Do you feel like this is how we've always known it to be from when we were youngsters but got caught up in the things of this world and selfishly at times putting our own selves first and that is what forgiveness is for ?
@@pennyd3194 long ago the system of control was created to enslave us, the system keeps you in a ego driven dopamine addicted state that is useful to them.. We r born into a pyramid scheme that none of us signed up for and we are lied to because those on top wont have to ever work for as long as we stay blind to our true nature and obey them and rely on them...
I discovered truth accidentally i was fully materialist until id seen too much proof to deny :) you dont need forgiveness we are manipulated in our vulnerable years your not the one to blame, the good thing is your aware somethings not quite right which cant be said for the majority of zombie people! Good luck 😊✌❤️
Uh, Marge, does your Toyota understand English or do speak Japanese?
excellent I need a breather every 20 mins to digest and integrate all these thoughts and information , I let it sink in for 10 mins and then continue to listen, being a very creative person having some creativity and more fun from Dr Rupert would be easier to absorb all this, thank you for all your work, focus and dedication, yes I have had many experiences of different aspects of consciousness within myself, plants, animals, water all things .....and love the comments people have written below ..amazing too...
You might enjoy the work of Jill Purce, as well; she is also Sheldrake's wife.
Tell me about it! Taking lots of notes here using Jim Kwiks' system which I've found to be the most effective at absorbing and processing information. I've had many similar experiences with other forms of consciousness, most recently through spirituality and breathwork which brought me here. I think because of the dualistic dogma of western science we have been completely disconnected from all this and now through technology and the internet we're finding our way back to our true nature...
I accept plants also have basic consciousness in the form of sensivity and reaction to sunlight but water as having consciousness? Give me a psychic break!
The Universe IS conscious, and it communicates with you via synchronicity. Synchronicity IN TANDEM with the "little voice" inside you.
However, the universe, for whatever reason, prefers order & love.
And, you'll find the universe awfully quiet if you perpetuate negativity, chaos, or hate.
One thing it took me a LONG-TIME to understand is the following: Being kind, loving, and altruistic usually comes with a personal cost, so it almost NEVER seems worth it. Yet, this is the only way to truly "walk a higher path."
Tell me: what comes at a higher personal cost: perpetuating negativity, chaos and hate, or being generally kind and compassionate (I don't see any good in altruism), all of which have nothing to do with being naive and okay to being taken advantage of, since opening yourself to be victimized contributes to turns others into culprits, which isn't a loving thing to do. And on the universe, preferring order is like saying that the earth is the way it is to provide a place to live for the plants and animals we find on it. In reality it's the other way around: Those for whom the environment can't maintain them, seize to exist, so what remains are those who can cope with the situation. Then: synchronicity isn't a form of communication. If 2 hailstones of the same size fall from the same cloud to the ground at the same speed next to each other, it isn't due to a preferred order, but because they're both bound by the same physics involved.
@@BorisNoiseChannel I respect, and moreover UNDERSTAND, your beliefs and observations my friend.
For, I'm keenly aware your viewpoint is, by far, the more logical and rational intellectual approach.
However, certain (synchronicity infused) events have REPEATEDLY transpired in my life, and many of them utterly DEFY probability.
I know you won't/can't accept that statement. You SHOULDN'T accept it.
These things happened to me, and even I can scarcely accept them.
But, as an educated and intelligent person, I've studied/contemplated these events at length, without bias, and that's how I've arrived at my conclusions.
I have NO DESIRE to believe these things, as a person with a mathematically driven mind.
I'd MUCH prefer to believe as you do.
I hope this finds you well.
@@BorisNoiseChannel if I may, to me being kind, loving and altruistic should come from within with all sincerity and no fear of being used, or expectations of gratitude. If people turn into culprits after you helped them, it is their choice. Yet, you are always free to walk away in that case.
Re. Synchonicities - these are personal things, events, connected by a meaning, that is understandable only by the observer.
The greatest effort is never concerned with results.
Surely people will take your kindness and compassion for granted,
But just because people don't appreciate a right action or choice means it should ultimately be undertaken for you,
In this way your "doing the right thing" is a kind of a gift to those undeserving as well as fully merited.
Sadhu sadhu sadhu
@@mycommentpwnz me too my bro me too.. Im a science chemistry and math genius but had to accept reality too much happened to deny, multiple times with more than 1 witness.. I wudnt believe it either lol, i told sum1 about 1 event a sec ago il paste it below it was a teleporting trinket had many other things happen too but theres nothing quite so undeniable as "the red shovel incident" tho
So 3 of us at mine until my friend asks to borrow something and then leaves...
A few hours later this happens... Now from my perspective i Stood up and quickly opened my draw half on autopilot coz i forgot he borrowed it but then as i grabbed the draw open i remember oh X took that home with him! But oh no Its too late because iv already seen it now... id already had that draw half open before i finished remembering it was at my friends and it didnt vanish as i remembered!
So he goes home my other friend was with me still and i then immediately phoned friend1 soon as it appeared he said he had it safe wen i asked but when I said "sorry bro can you just double check please i know its weird il tell u why in a sec" i heard him he went to his room to look but it had gone from his room!! 5miles! When i said dont wory bro its here iv got it he was like wtf have you been to my house? So i was like na i swear we havent left my room il put friend2 on the phone to explain exactly what he just saw happen, i then pass the phone so he can explain for me and confirm we hadnt left
We definitely didnt all imagine everything ffs lol we are all very very sure theres no way thats possible at all! id even phoned him just after he left with it and said please be careful dont lose that coz its sentimental and my m8 sitting next to me heard that and my friend even told me how he was extra careful to put it in his bed so it wouldnt get lost like id asked but yet sumhow i open my draw 3 4 hours later and there it is!
Theres no way to explain it at all with 2 witnesses at the arrival point and 1 at the origin location and us 2 hadnt even left the room since he went home!
When i saw it I just pointed in silence then my m8 stood up puzzled looked down into that draw and his mouth just dropped as he looked at me both silent i knew his eyes said HOW though and i just shook my head in disbelief and shock! First thing i said was 'i know we call him' and so i grabbed my phone to try find out if it was a duplication or teleport or wed gone crazy..
He wasnt actually watching or holding it when it happened it was in a safe place so i can only guess maybe if observation is important then if he wasnt consciously thinking about it at the exact moment it came unstuck but i have no idea tbh..
So i dunno if focus or our belief or will is responsible or it just randomly returned to where it belonged because of magic or a mini wormhole or glitch in the matrix i really have no idea! :) because just like the telepathy it was accidental/automatic so tbh i honestly duno what caused it but from my view thats how it felt anyway just incase it was anything to do with me i like to try include everything i can to document as much as possible incase its relavent.... Tbh we didn't even dare touch it until after my friend couldn't find the original in his bed🤣🤷♀, i worried it might break reality if i touched it and anchored something that wasnt meant to be real or was a duplicate (kinda like timecop or whatever that film they cant touch in kinda style😳🤣)luckily we appear to hav survived lol!..
Peace bro hope to see you out there somewhere 😉✌❤️
With such gentle,happy and respectfull attitude the world becomes alive and frendly...very refreshing Spirit...healthy and spontaneous ...thank you Rupert !
1:57 Yes. Many people don't share these experiences because people do think we're crazy. I thought I was crazy. I had a choice when it happened: Go to a psychiatrist or go to India. I went to India. Peace, happiness, to all beings everywhere.
Good choice! 👍
What somewhat annoys me about Sheldrake, repeating it several times that _'' you can't talk about these experiences, cause they'll think you're crazy''._ It's a whiny kind of accusing _''the materialist''_ (also meant as a denigrating term hinting at _'closed mindedness'_ with a: _'' you just can't reason with folks like that''_ air of superiority about it. In fact: The exact opposite is true; and all sorts of studies and experiments are done to try and find out _scientifically_ what's going on when such experiences happen. (like putting highly trained zen-masters in MRI brain-scanners). No-one is denying that _'other states of consciousness'_ happen. What is generally dismissed as unscientific (which only means Sheldrake is jumping the gun with it, _not_ that it's or can't be true, but simply that the one (experiencing an other state of consciousness) _doesn't_ imply, show, or prove _''that their consciousness is part of something greater than themselves,''_ let alone that these experiences, or the fact that ancient beliefs talk about the sun and the planets as conscious entities prove anything. And he totally missing the plot when he says that those, supposedly narrow minded scientists who supposedly just call you crazy, when they (rightfully) say that experiencing those altered states of consciousness _doesn't_ prove a connection to another, greater kind of consciousness from outside of themselves, that it's those scientists turn to prove him wrong!
When a (formally) well known, respected and renowned scientist, suddenly seems to have forgotten that it's always the one making the claim to present evidence for it; that it's impossible to prove a negative (just like you can't prove (a) god(s) doesn't exist, and thus that it's the job of the person _claiming_ its existence to provide evidence), it's no more than logical his former highly regarded reputation has significantly diminished over the years. And him, repeatedly cry-babying about that, blaming the critique on all kinds of character flaws in those expressing it, and hinting at it, being a forbidden topic (while, like I said, the research in that field is done in all sorts of ways and in many different places), is a bloody shame and just sad.
Anyway; I've done all sorts of drugs in my youth; made all sorts of the wildest trips, without moving a foot. And I still meditate daily, in which I sometimes have an entire conversation with the pole star, and some of my friends love to here about it; amazed what the human mind can come up with. Not once did anyone called me crazy. I'm sure, though, they would start getting concerned if I started proclaiming I'm the pole star's chosen one to channel the ancient wisdom of its mind into mine to tell the rest of humanity _The Truth_ of life's origin, meaning and purpose and teach them all _The Only_ true path to love and happiness. If that happens I HOPE they'd try to get me to seek psychiatric help.
All the best to you too
@@BorisNoiseChannel thank you for this! truly we need more humility in exploring consciousness and less dogmatic narratives that in my experience unfortunately can rather quickly turn into anti-science conspiracies
@@BorisNoiseChannel Science tends to defend itself, often without any basis on facts. Science cannot explain everything, but it is quick to denounce people who have theories which are a danger to scientific ‘truths’. Just imagine if Dr Sheldrake’s theory is correct, I wonder how many scientists would have a nervous breakdown and call Dr Sheldrake a Charlatan. Even now, scientists theories about the universe are forever changing. Nothing concrete about their facts is there?
Namste!
On the cusp of a transition to a new consciousness, on the threshold of a dream. Thanks so much Rupert for sharing the journey of consciousness through the ages.
He has taken it from vedant darshan of hindu dharm. Try to study vedant darshan and you will get deeper knowledge. 🙏🙏🙏
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@@BeataPriore what you mean
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Hmm good on you :)
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As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.
~ Max Planck
@Xfactor X The Vedic tradition unambiguously places consciousness as primary; as the source of all objective creation. Aside from the Upanishads, other vedic texts articulate exactly how the absolute, unmanifest subjective reality of pure consciousness, through it's Self-referral dynamics, creates what we experience in the manifest universe. The Human nervous system can locate and observe this purely subjective, ultimate basis for creation....not as a feat of the intellect, but through the ability to transcend the finest relative aspects of creation and experience pure subjectivity...Being.
You can assume as much as you like that there is a conscious mind behind everything.. Still only makes it an assumption! There is no evidence that there is anything conscious about the Universe itself. Rocks, stars, atoms all do not have consciousness because a brain & mind is needed for it. The Universe is One & We are a part of that One, nothing separate from it. The Universe has evolved itself into complex forms, including animals that can think, feel, speak, see, hear etc.. That is still Universe! The Universe is conscious because We are & the Universe ponders about itself using the minds it created itself into.
Assuming and intelligent mind behind the universe is nothing but a fools game of self deception.
@@suegirouard917 Exactly, simply based on dogma & religiously deluded beliefs. The 'god' idea, that We are & all is 'god'. Absolutely zero evidence for all that & stuck in backwards barbaric beliefs. The concept of one deity or montheistic thought, came originally from Akhenatens Aten religion in Egypt (first recorded monotheism) & was added to later with absolute delusion of reality. The Universe is not conscious, there was no 'thought' about making life.. It evolved like everything evolves, including the Universe itself. The Universe is conscious because We are!
@@suegirouard917 Seems quite reasonable to me seeing that Creation has an apearance of design as many atheists admitt
There is an intellectual way to know, and there is an intuitive way to know. Intellect always snails behind the intuitive intelligence.
Excellent lecture! The most elegant illustration of quantum theory I've heard!
In a world where mental illness is becoming a norm, meaning can become the panacea to that illness. Taking the viewpoint of a conscious universe brings a potential for meaning in the struggle of living. As a person who has taken psychedelics, I can say wholeheartedly, that they helped me discover the opportunity to become a better human. You, where you are right now, are part of the whole and the whole loves, and that is why this cosmos exists.
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Thank you for this coment it helped me
Uh, Jus, just to be clear, why psychedelics? Couldnt handle it? Were you like Dr. Jekyll looking for Mr. Hyde?
Death is not the end and birth is not the beginning, all is consciousness and all matter posseses it, inanimate or animate, it is and being. We are so much more than we have been conditioned and programmed to believe. I miss Ruppert and Terrance they had amazing exchanges with their dialogue and arranged meetings and discussion. This Man is truly brilliant and right!!
Nice hypothesis you have there ....be a shame if someone were to test it........................
@@nickolasgaspar9660 I empathize with your statement, nevertheless what is truly a shame is that members of the scientific community are in general conditioned to believe that the scientific method, while certainly a privileged pathway to knowledge, is the only pathway to knowledge. Hopefully once science can overcome it's own sense of arrogance, (and it certainly can't be blamed for feeling that way) it will catch up to what many ancient teachers and cultures have known for ages about consciousness, the universe, and our relationship to it.
@@evanm4682
-" I empathize with your statement, nevertheless what is truly a shame is that members of the scientific community are in general conditioned to believe that the scientific method, while certainly a privileged pathway to knowledge, is the only pathway to knowledge."
-Strawman. Science is currently the most credible and far from being the only pathway to knowledge. This take is just you and doesn't really help your views or beliefs. Trying to poke holes to an established way of knowledge evaluation wont help your ideology.
-" Hopefully once science can overcome it's own sense of arrogance, (and it certainly can't be blamed for feeling that way) it will catch up to what many ancient teachers and cultures have known for ages about consciousness, the universe, and our relationship to it."
-Again you are confused. Just because ancient and new age woo can not meet the scientific standards of knowledge evaluation that doesn't make science arrogant.
Its one thing to make claims and a different one to be able to verify them.
Its not Science job to treat magical claims differently. All claims need to play with the same rules of logic and standards of evidence.
Its on you to provide objective reproducible evidence and avoid fallacious arguments (argumentum ad antiquitatem)
Uh, Marty, you're on the right track. Try not to get derailed. Actually, life is a cycle of births and rebirths until you have completed your karmic debts.
Your thinking is very advanced on consciousness being the true reality and that materialism has unduly dominated western minds for so long.
An excellent lecture, thank you, Rupert Sheldrake. I'm following your lectures again, and again. They land in new mindsoil, so to speak.
Through the years, over 3 or 4 decades, your way of thinking moves closer to what's in the process of re-membering in our human consciousness now, as I observe this.
You're not only a very intelligent scientist and clear speaker, but also a man with humour, and joy for life. A very British gentleman, God bless you!
As a Sufi mystic would; one like to explain with a direct experience and here is one direct experience: One hot summer day, the need rose to visit a friend. Needed a taxi. There was a billboard next to home, in an alley, where it is unlikely to find a taxi. I said to the billboard: you always direct people, you are an expert in directions; it is noon and hot, please direct a taxi to me here. Five taxis showed up in a moment in this small alley. I thanked the billboard for it’s generosity and took off. It is all natural if you live it. We tend to talk much and live little.
"We tend to talk much and live little". Well said. People live in their beliefs about reality, rather than in reality itself.
@@markj7612 I create the reality I live in with my mind
@@killercuddles7051 This would be a very different world, wouldn't it, if all of humanity came to understand the truth of your ten-word comment. Thank you.
LOL. That's a great story! Gotta get those billboards on MY side!
Live the free flow of life...every way is a-way tao-is t direct way.
Ideas like these are what humanity truly needs. Putting aside dogmatic worldviews to truly innovate is absolutely necessary for our species. The second we feel like we have it all figured out, we stop asking questions, therefore there is no chance to make positive changes without challenging the status-quo.
History proves what works and doesnt work . Intellectuals live in a imaginary reality like everybody else . Sheldrake is old enough to know its alot more productive to analyze past successes .
I also left the church and went on a long journey through various religious traditions, and although the journey has been enriching, I have never found the sense of spiritual fulfillment and peace, that I later found coming back to Christianity.
Christianity is a beautiful religion. It's about God who loves humans so much, that when He - for whatever reason - couldn't make this life any better for us, He became one of us and suffered what we suffer, so He is truly God with us. He humbled himself so to teach us to be humble.
Perhaps this wonderful planet needs the Hindus, so they make sure the Sun doesn't burn us all, as it needs the Buddhists and all other religions. But I believe it also needs us, Christians, with our message of unfailing love.
By far the best, well though out talk across this set of subjects. Dr. Sheldrake is I think one of the greatest thinkers of our time.
@UCWuvav4m-UG4ayQ1VGLOlWg How else could his message be shared, that would render someone less lazy for receiving his ideas? How is Rupert sharing his thoughts in a format, specifically related to the OP's opinion of Rupert being one of the greatest thinkers of our time?
That makes no sense. A baseless insult.
Is hearing him say the same thing on radio, any less lazy? What about reading it on a screen? On paper? Braille?
Fuck off.
@Stephen Crowley what’s wrong with you. ?
yup; he'll get the Nobel prize one day when his work on morphic resonance is validated
@@tonyclifton265 with out objective, independently verifiable evidence....he will never win that prize check. He will be forced to keep earning his living by selling comforting magical stories to the gullible and the scientifically ignorant.
@@kaylacarpenter272 lots here
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I've been thinking along these lines for years now, and now I see Sheldrake (who I never heard talk about this) has already worked it out. Makes me think maybe there is some sort of collective mind where ideas float around from one person to another. I keep thinking I have an original idea, but so far, nope.
@Shel Fati Something like that, but in the realm of consciousness rather than electromagnetic ones and zeroes.
@Shel Fati My own experience seems to support something like this to be true. It is when I've analyzed a particular subject, like the spiritual implications of evolution, for example, ideas have come to me that I later read in Teilhard de Chardin. I have been thinking about the fractal nature of much of the universe and wondering if there aren't varying scales of consciousness attached to varying levels of physical organization that both generate and serve as a conduit for universal consciousness, and then I hear Sheldrake proposing basically the same thing. Makes me wonder.
Nonlocality was proven a long time ago. The waves of energy and light at the core of this existence are conscious. The physicist Barbara Brennan proved that we and everything else are holographic projections. That means we exist within a screen, a holodeck where what we think appears before us so fast that we don't think we created it. That includes these bodies.
@@pureenergy4578 -"The waves of energy and light at the core of this existence are conscious."
-I am not sure you understand the common usage of the word "conscious" but if you do please provide objective evidence for that declaration.
"The physicist Barbara Brennan proved that we and everything else are holographic projections."
-lol no she hasn't...that's just her pseudo philosophical view...not science.
-" That means we exist within a screen, a holodeck where what we think appears before us so fast that we don't think we created it."
-yes this is what she means with her pseudo philosophical speculation....that doesn't mean it true..and because she can not prove it she never got a Nobel Prize for this claim!
new age pseudo philosophy mate....try studying neuroscience.
As someone that grew up in the country side and now lives in a city, you can most definitely feel the difference. Machines don't have a feeling, outside of being hot or cold. Nature, however, has this feeling that I can't describe. It's as though you are being comforted and welcomed just for being alive. There are dangerous around, yes, but you feel so much safer than in a city. It's as though you join with nature and can feel the calmness.
Long before any religious indoctrination, there was a persistent presence I cannot describe.
Your description of 'the countryside' comes close.
There is a feeling in the countryside
Trees and plants do have communication.
"the problem is that by saying consciousness is an illusion doesn't explain it, because Illusion is itself a mode of consciousness" Absolutely wonderful Elucidation. this quote puts a crack in the Emerald City of Oz's Walls. Push this idea.....Push it as far as you can, Dig deep into it, and then look into "spiritual" matters. it's there. this can wake up the whole world.
People who call consciousness an illusion have successfully deluded themselves as being smart skeptics not realizing the just dumbed themselves.
Most enlightening talk. I first encountered Dr. Sheldrake when I read his landmark book, "Dogs Who Know When Their Owners Are Going Home'. His views strongly resonated with my own, the most primary of which is that everything has a consciousness. Bring Asian, I gravitated to the Eastern school of thought even if Iwas born in a country steeped in Western religion.Intuitively, the ideas and thoughts Dr. Sheldrake share seem to be things I've known before and just forgot akin to what British magus, David Conway, told his mentor. Having so many mystical experiences, it becomes difficult to deny ideas and thinking that go against popular theories and beliefs.
what an amazing lecture, thank you! enlightening, connecting, alive with personal experience!
Conscious being.
The conscious being that became aware of it's own existence,
Experianced its own evolutionary growth of it's conscious being,
That came to the realisation, understanding, that to just exist, was not enough.
That was the begining of the conscious being creator,
The begining of the intelligence that would evolve, as conscious being began to see how it could continue to evolve and grow.
The result, our existence, us.
We are that conscious being,
Our conscious experience of existence, is the evolution of that conscious being.
That is the reason why each humans should be full of gratitude as well
as humility to be a part of a so merveillous Universe.
What i find fantastic is that this approach mirrors the Buddha’s insight practice.
However Buddhism goes much much further in its analysis and insight as evidenced by the insights surrounding Dependent Origination.
Love is all there Is!
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Sadhu sadhu sadhu
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What a lovely lecture, so rich and full of rational and spiritual/experiential info, and delivered in a non-judgmental and sometimes humorous manner.
Rational and spiritual in the same sentence???
@@nickolasgaspar9660 it is the ultimate convergence;
And it's about time.
@@djimiwreybigsby5263 lol it isn't...its an oxymoron.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 it's rational to be spiritual and its spiritual to be rational.
@@DovidShaw What do you understand by it, can you define "spiritual" for yourself ?
Sheldrake is so refreshing to hear. What an awesome guy!
If not one falls to the ground without God's awareness of it. Then Matt 10:28
Had the true identity of God and life entwined . Just in the way our friends suppose
Two sparrows
By far the best lecture of my lifetime
I am mentally and emotionally improved on every incidence that I hear Mr. Sheldrake speak.
Sorry?
@@justdev8965 lol..... identical reaction .
I had a few years ago an experience with ayahuasca, the drink of the gods for the Indians of South america.during the experience I had a strong vision when I felt that everything is full of consciousness, the animals,the trees,the flowers,everything. Psicodelics are doors to understant the fabric of reality.science and mysticism are really one.
Just keep it to yourself, and spare me and few others of any Freakin adds....
@@Thewonderingminds replying to the wrong comment?
The doors of Perception” William Blake by way of Aldous Huxley (or is it vice versa!?)
@@senpaixd1346 maybe,but felt great.
@SenpaiXD explain the chemical reaction in people that have died for minutes to hours yet are having fully conscious experiences during that time
This was WONDERFUL and the first discussion I ever listened to in more than half a century on this earth that made me as though I could embrace "religion." Thank you! I shall be searching for your books, Prof. Sheldrake.
*"I shall be searching for your books, Prof. Sheldrake."*
🤣..naa, you're just a gullible prat, champ.
@@orlando5385 I have already purchased 2 of Prof. Sheldrake's books and find his theories both enormously interesting and plausible. If Prof. Sheldrake is a "prat," then I would be thrilled to be a "prat," too. Prof. Sheldrake's name is going down in history. I doubt yours will.
@@user-lz6dm5lk9y *If Prof. Sheldrake is a "prat,"..*
😂I said you're the "prat" champ, not err.."Prof. Sheldrake", he's the sassy snake oil salesman making his money off of gullible fools like you.
He's just selling recycled philosophical nonsense as new age woo that don't have any objective weight as in at least an iota of verifiable empirical evidence ergo no epistemic value whatsoever..just hyper buzzwords, personal deepities, word salad arguments and mumbo-jumbo galore.
Btw, he ain't going down in any history cause he hasn't made any and won't make any on that old woo crap, champ.
Willful ignorance and wishful magical thinking take less effort than actual learning and rational inquiry and investigation.
Lol, just realizing what a waste of time starting this meaningless conversation with you really was..guess just prove sometimes my versatility for killing time when bored.
I'm done here, carry on.
Your explanation of life reflects what I've always felt but been scoffed at as rediculous though I seefeel it all around me and have since early childhood. How refreshing to feel the resonance, thank you.
And for me too Wanda. I have always had an inner voice so to speak,that knows what he is able to articulate so much better than I can. It's incredibly liberating to hear.
The activity of creating art is another prime example of an active experiential meditation.
Hmm? Breathing! Is an art form not properly utilised....Read Some Tibetan or Buddhism Information...and discover how to apply it! Regards
Absolutely!
I create art by using different mediums of expression....but I would never use those new age buzz words.
What I would use though is the scientific terminology of "Defuse Thinking"...where our brain constructs and produces thoughts without being guide by the property of conscious reasoning. Connections between concepts and ideas are realized in unconventional ways resulting in either brilliant new ideas or typical intellectual bovine manure.
That is mainly depended by the raw material that's available to our brains. If that raw material is credible epistemology then defuse states of thinking can produce brilliant results. If not, then we usually end up with useless new age woo....like this guy does in the video.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 defuse thinking lol. You should read Carl Jungs collected works, and you might have a hint, at what he says.
@@danielantunes1060 or better earn a real education by studying real Science.
Take a course on Neuroscience and Neuropsychoanalysis and learn about Defuse thinking. Moocs by Barbara Oackley,Terrence Sejnowski and Mark Solms.
Read Robert Sapolsky monumental book "Behave".
Read Nobelist Daniel Kahneman's book "think slow and fast" and then laugh at the term defuse thinking...
Btw his Nobel Prize was on his work on different types of thinking and heuristics and it was an award on ECONOMICS.
The market makes money based on his work...while you laugh.....you poor ,scientifically illiterate ιδιώτη.
Love you Mike!
Thank you for all you do, miss you when you're away, and always excited when I get my daily dew notifications. You've become a daily comfort. Keep up the incredible work. Much Love to you and your family 💓
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Fantastic, i can finally agree with an intellectual who shares what I believe. I thought i was insane, so thank you very much Rupert. I acknowledge & greet the sun the moon the stars the clouds, the wind, the land the mountains the trees...and greetings to Mother Earth & Sky Father.
Oh wow I never heard someone address Skai Father! Even though i JUST connected that in my acknowledged consciousness the past three days. the elements have shown themselves though for at least +18 years. Man! All this is so exciting and thrilling to me. For a long long long time I thot we I wasn't gonna make it...but the KODE. I stuck to the KODE and now turns out physics had to bow 🙇🏾♀️ 🙇♂️ 🙇🏾 to da KODE.
Love love love Prince Charles here as in Dr. Rupert SIR CCHELdrAKe for saying troots that finally backs up what MEEK is showing in the end, cuz i think 🤔 💭 i just got the phrase a stitch in time saves nine. Never did understand that before now really.
But I followed the KODE. Did what it sed. Acknowledged my feelings about it but then followed it one ☝️ stitch at a time. Turns out over time and years... the garment that emerges...say nothing of the man within it, is nothing short of 😻😎☝️🤩😁 EVERYBODY. Cuz if i can u can and we did it. We are now all like the people in the wizard of oz when u go back to visit the second time around after Dorothy already knows she can go home, now we can dance the yello brick 🧱 roads because GlissanDER, the good SHAEMAN conceived smooching goodness coming from the soil surrounding the roots of every tree 🌳 🌲 🌳 in every tree in Gaiah,
and every possible consciousness of tree; in the interspaces of the insides of the tiniest grain of sand and then multiplied exponentially thru every grain on every beach 🏖 🏝 across this globe and in every consciousness, to the inside of every as-above-so/below, and then to the ends of consciousness everything-nothing,: Light, gushy acceptance ovall, warmth, perfect 🤩 👌 😍 saturation and yoy in every joice going 360*360*366. And sew 🧵 🪡 it is. 🤣 ...things u can't unread. 👏😁 things u can unknow. Don't🚫🤔 👛 🐘
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That's my tyme. ⏰
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So now umm jus GOODEMUS 😌 goodness.
We’re not insane there is just a vested interest for the powers that be to convince the masses the universe is dead and mechanistic
@@SirMax7 read baruch Spinoza: ERHICS, on the improvement of understanding... There is a universe of most profound nature and logically proven beyond others capacity for contestation. It is written not in simplistic syllogism, but in geometric proof which makes him a most profound read..moreover the controversy still to this day is whether or not he is a total naturalist or utterly drunk on god..he brings true meaning to the grand nature that is the universe and for which none other thus far can compete in logical arguement but were ever so willing to reward with excommunication and letter of heresy...though is now considered the father if rationalism. Moreover, he makes Descartes work l, his contemporary, completely infantile by comparison. Bit one better, descarts is extremely arrogant, from a "thinker who writes himself into his own inescapable corner and must rely on deus ex machina to resolve his incapacity, while Spinoza reads like mathematics in language while is the empitomy of humility. A no better philosopher who lives his philosophy could easily be found.
It's a very ancient Celtic way of looking at the cosmos,too. They had reverence for it.
@@fullmetaljacket1803 Try convincing a medical doctor that spirits have framed you when they believe in a mechanistic universe.
Sadly the scientific community still persist in the belief that if you cant prove it then it fails to exist. This philosophy has failed to embrace the experience of many people who are connected with a spiritual dimension. Well articulated Dr Sheldrake. We so need the integration of science and the spiritual world in order to bring about a more wholesome compassionate world.
I was just having this conversation with an atheist or you might as well say a 'Naturalist' or you might as well say a 'Victorian Era Transplant.' I asked this individual if atoms which interacted with the Cosmos for 8 billion years according to his estimation only existed when they could be seen and observed? You can imagine what happened from there. Odd how irrational the 'intellectuals' get when their 'reason' turns to ration.*
Helen i so agree with you and so beautifully expressed.
-"Sadly the scientific community still persist in the belief that if you cant prove it then it fails to exist. "
-lol that is not the standard of science. We have to reject a claim until you are able to demonstrate it through objective independent verification.
I don't accept "A" doesn't mean I believe "A" is wrong...it only means I can not accept "A" because it is failing to meet the logical standards of verification.
-"We so need the integration of science and the spiritual world in order to bring about a more wholesome compassionate world."
-We did that for many centuries...and we had bloodletting and the evil eye and Phlogiston and Miasma and Panacea and Orgone energy derailing our epistemology.
This is why Science uses Logic in its standards of evaluation...to avoid fallacious claims become part of our knowledge.
@@catreeanasaunders8573 you shouldn't agree with factually wrong statements.
I want to you too know how wonderful and inspiring the information you gave this group today
Untill I flipped through u tube and clicked onto your page I thought since I am interested on the subject you were about to talk on I said why not !!! And I must admit first you have a wonderful speaking voice and presence and the information you were telling the group was very very interesting and how you put it together and broke it down for people like myself in layman terms Thanks again and I will look for you book 📚
You keep up the good work and always go with you own gut feelings on what you want to relate to your audience regardless
Of there opinions Thankyou mg from Scotland 🏴
Dr Sheldrake is such a brilliant and important man. I am certain that, in the end, science will realise that so much of what he has said has merit. The way the scientific establishment has treated him is manifestly unfair.
Well just because we like a specific story of a "scientist"...that doesn't make it scientific. In order for science to accept these pseudo philosophical claims he first needs to falsify the current Scientific paradigm which is verified for more than 500 years. Then he needs to prove Methodological Supernaturalism correct and replace Methodological Naturalism's from being the philosophical backbone of science.
-"The way the scientific establishment has treated him"....is how all crackpot charlatans who ignore the rules of logic and Science;s Standards of evidence and evaluation should be treated.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 It is extremely easy to falsify the ‘material reductionist’ belief that underpins science.
As for evidence, there is an abundance of that if you have the eyes to look.
The steadfast refusal of the scientific establishment to accept non-materialist thinking is hampering the development of evolutionary biology, physics and neuroscience.
@@andrewsheehy2441 first of all you can't falsify an unfalsifiable metaphysical worldview (materialism). That claim is as irrational as the statements mades by materialism.
Secondly even if you could do that, materialistic worldviews are incompatible with the philosophical backbone of science, that is Methodological Naturalism.
So you are attacking a strawman there.
Now evidence that prove .... unfalsifiable worldviews need to be objective, meening that everyone's eyes should be able to see them....not only those who already have faith in supernatural stories.
Again it's not science's fault that we can't accept undetectable, untestable, unfalsifiable, invisible, non objective, independently non verifiable claims about supernatural causation. It's Logic, it's rules, principles and criteria that define the high standards of evaluation and verification in science.
So the lack of objective independent verification of different supernatural claims is what makes them irrational, not science's principles to exclude claims that can it be tested.
This is Philosophy of Science 101 mate.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 I think you are very confused. It is clear that the reality we are part of contains matter (e.g. ‘atoms’) and non-matter (e.g. the laws of physics and mathematical truths).
You can’t have a reality without laws that define how that reality is. But those laws have no material from.
Further, even at the base level, there is no actual ‘matter’ - all there is are mathematical objects.
So it is very clear that there is ‘something’ - which is present everywhere which has no material form, but which exists anyway.
Einstein knew this, as have many other physicists.
The challenge for science - for it to get out of the rut it is in - is to discover the true nature (e.g. the science) that explains this ‘something else’.
I think there are very powerful scientific arguments that suggest the laws that define biological life as well as those that explain intelligence are somehow also part of this ‘something else’.
Sure, there is no proof that this exists - but that is because no serious scientist would be allowed to look.
Eventually, future generations will work it out.
But sticking our heads in that sand and declaring that such a thing doesn’t exist, and therefore isn’t worth looking for, is to reject the thesis of the scientific method - Cartesian Doubt.
@@andrewsheehy2441 Andrew.....you can not accuse people for being "confused" when you previously confused Methodological Naturalism with a Materialistic metaphysical worldview and just now you called "non-matter" the tools we use to describe properties of matter(laws) and how they relate (math)!
-"You can’t have a reality without laws that define how that reality is. But those laws have no material from."
- oh boy. Laws are our descriptions of matter's properties. LAws are not magical substances or forces that aren't contingent to properties of matter. You can not use an abstract concept to argue in favor of an invisible dimension/entity. Abstract concepts are labels describing conditions and processes of the physical world!
-"Further, even at the base level, there is no actual ‘matter’ - all there is are mathematical objects."
-Again...you are confusing the tools we use to describe reality with the ontology of the building blocks of reality. That is classic categorical error.
Here is a simple test you can make. Try running, head first, through a brick wall. Try first while ''believing" that the wall that is about to crack your skull open is a "mathematical object" and then try it again while accepting the established scientific framework (electromagnetic cohesion of molecules of solid physical structures). So guess what the result would be in both cases...feel free to repeat as many times as you like.
SO you need to understand that HOW we describe or what we believe about matter is not part of reality. They are abstract concepts designed to convey information about their qualities, properties and interactions.
-"So it is very clear that there is ‘something’ - which is present everywhere which has no material form, but which exists anyway"
-No there isn't and we have never verified such claim. What you present as "something" is elementary school error...where kids confuse labels of abstract concepts of reality for independent entities.
This is how humanity created the gods of Justice, the god of luck , the god of evil...etc.
This is iron age philosophy sir.
-"Einstein knew this, as have many other physicists."
-Argument from false authority fallacy. First of all physicists hold metaphysical beliefs. Those beliefs are not knowledge. Secondly, the unfalsifiable metaphysical views of a credible scientist are not better or more correct to any other belief a crackpot philosopher holds.
The opinion of an Authority has special value ONLY WITHIN HIS FIELD and only when it is backed up with evidence.
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His voice is so calming... I'm drifting Out of consciousness 🌙
yes he really does have a calming voice, but I am not drifting out of consciousness, and then the first guy that questions Rupert his voice cuts thru like a knife, like he hates him & wants to stab Rupert...very disturbing...the guy sat thru the entire lecture only to ask.... I thought you were going to talk about?!
this is how you lure in clients...when you sell a product.
This guy is way ahead of many of his peers.
Beautiful talk, thank you.
Consciousness is the ultimate ground of existence, it is the cause of everything. And It’s not personal. You can’t use your consciousness or observe or reduce consciousness because consciousness is the very source of observation. So consciousness will never by an object. Always will be the source of observation itself. Also consciousness is not static, is completely dynamic. His dynamic aspect is reality.
For a brilliant breakdown of the different types of consciousness see on utube Ramana Maharshi Be as You Are Chapter 12 Experience and Samadhi...Sahaja samadhi-the unified field of awareness or Born Again.When the ego is destroyed along with its karmas.
Or when the barrier between the unconscious and superconscious mind becomes transparent.
Or...consciousness is the existence of being (the potentiality of being, whereas a body is the actuality of being).
I would suggest that matter is what consciousness "looks like" (or feels like, tastes like, etc.), and consciousness is "what it's like" to be matter. In the end, there is only the one thing.
Dualism is due to the polarity of perspective (as described above)...of the one thing.
My view.. We are Universe, We are the Universe in a conscious form. Without a complex mind & brain, consciousness cannot exist. All matter is not conscious, just the evolution of the Universe into complex beings. The Universe feels, thinks, hurts, sees, hears etc because it does so in us & other beings. Perhaps it is 'itself' learning about itself by evolving itself into creatures with consciousness & intelligence.
This shit is getting so great, that you can go into youtube comment threads and regularly see thoughts like all these beautifully expressed where you never would have 10 years ago. And it's accelerating... We've really molded a lovely aesthetic corner of our mutual virtual existence here, us!
And after all the selves' in-group ass-kissing and back-slapping, let's now turn to, and wax rhapsodic upon, a salient point that includes the 'out-group':
SELF-DUAL!!!
That fully uniting (and mathematically sound!!) [also, dividing] paradoxical principle between Dual and Nondual schools of thought, between Self and Other. If my Other is *truly* my *equal* -- as in, deeply equivalent, Javascript triple '===', is there really any Other? Or, as the big Jeezy ponders: love your enemy! Or as Leonard Cohen so aptly suggests: "There is a war between the ones who say there is a war and the ones who say that there isn't"
U been eating Kastrup
Uh, Paul,mind and consciousness do not depend on the brain, just the opposite. The brain needs the mind and consciousness to function and control or run the biomechanics of the human body, some functions being automatic while others by conscious direction with the agency of our freewill.
I figured out a while ago that, while the scientific method is the best tool we have for understanding the world around us, it has a serious flaw. If there is anything that cannot currently be measured, we must treat it as if it does not exist. Even if it does, and even if it is vitally important. This can be because we don't yet have the technology to study a phenomenon, or simply that it may occur so rarely that, unless we have a camera pointed right at it when it happens, it's as if it never did. I figured, if I cared about truth, I'd have to take what I know of science and step out into blind chaos, exploring the frontier.
I like this comment!
Everything within the universe could be fractal versions of this universal consciousness in unity 💝💝💝💝💝💝💝
People don’t have to agree with any of this, but the fact that so few people understand it is concerning. It shouldn’t be too difficult to switch your mind onto a different track and re-evaluate what it means for everything to be conscious. It’s a very interesting switch to flip because it involves a sort of erasing of the chalkboard of the mind and starting again from a very different fundamental assumption.
If people knew where reductive materialism came from and the assumptions piled upon assumptions that led to that being a sort of dogma, I think it would be easier for people to flip that switch and entertain a different perspective. Because in the end, Sheldrake is talking about the same reality we’re all living in. He’s just giving a different background assumption and asking, “What if this is the way things really are?”
I feel that if you truly get what he’s saying, it doesn’t change the reality you’re looking at but it certainly makes you look at it differently. And it opens up an entirely new line of discourse that I think is valuable in pursuing further.
The whole premise of this talk depends on a redefinition of the word "conscious", in the sense that anyone is likely to understand the word even in the context of "a conscious universe". This renders the entire talk as basically an exercise in semantics.
Which is true of all talks. The worthwhile talks inspire us to be silent (and know….)
I believe that consciousness is quite literally everywhere and everything. Although not found enough in the minds of many.
Many do not realise their self-Consciousness, it’s quite normal, in fact the opposite is already the sign of a more advanced evolution.
Love the wave aspect. Our consciousness makes a wave in the universe and our bodies are it's manifestation in three dimensions.
Loving an aspect has nothing to do with being true or being falsifiable
@@nickolasgaspar9660 Glad you were able to point that out for me.
@@slythewhyissilent it doesn't seem to be helping you with your reasoning though.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 Should it?
@@slythewhyissilent shouldn't it?
I’m grateful to be able to meet Dr Sheldrake in this forum
I love that Rupert Sheldrake acknowledges planets as conscious--it makes so much sense and is consistent.
lol no it doesn't. To be conscious means to have the "hardware" to process organic and environmental stimuli and inform your behavior. Plants do not have a central nervous system, they do not have a conscious behavior (be aware of the resource and take decision in order to consume it. If you check closer they are ...planted and they do not need to be aware of stimuli or their emotions or thoughts).
@@nickolasgaspar9660 Processing stimuli requires a level of perception. Plants process stimuli, although they lack a central nervous system like ours.
They also have conscious behavior for example when planted next to another plant, can deprive resources from a nearby plant. Another example is Venus flytraps can count 3 touches before closing.
Rupert Shaldrake is a recent discovery is a recent discovery for me. I’m impressed with his paradigm shifting shares...
He was a good friend of Terrence McKenna and shared his belief system. 👍🍄🗝🧩☯️
You ought to see the healing being accomplished using wide spectrum red, blue and yellow laser lights
How about also discovering Logic and how important Objective Independent Verification is when we deal with claims about our world.....
@@davidforshaw4810 and this is what renders his claims pseudo scientific. Belief systems are not compatible with the principles of science (Methodological Naturalism).
@@nickolasgaspar9660 you're in Matt Dillahunty territory : Dorsalateral Prefrontal Cortex!
Love this Man...he completely described everything I have come to understand about myself consciousness and life...He is absolutely perfect..the best theory I've ever heard...💯♥️🙏
Holographic monads... it's a beautiful picture... quaternity... thanks for sharing. Good work Dr. Sheldrake
Much love and respect to this hero doctor 🙏
"Dictionaries are part of the Lizardman's Plans
to make us all Understand Words!!"
-Hbomberguy;
best TH-camr.
This is one of the best lectures I've ever seen.
Such a complexity presented with ease and clarity, bravo, this is grace, thanks
"magic did it" always makes things sound "easy"
My thoughts this afternoon.
Sadly we have been stuck in this mechanical materialistic view of ourselves and our world for so long that we have forgotten that we came from nature and we are a part of nature.
When we again find the truth and the natural beauty of nature is when we will fine true peace and harmony with our questions, ourselves, and nature itself. When we find nature again we will find the true meaning of life and why we are here.
Have a good day and clear skies everyone and go safely.
And nature is a manifestation of...?
Nature is 'beautiful' for bourgeois and privileged pinheads.
@@williamoarlock8634 Nature is beautiful in itself-- whether you are privileged or a bourgeoisie. Perhaps you should see it for what it is rather than what you may or may not, be.
@@electricmanist Nature is ugly and cruel behind the pretty flowers. But the 'spiritual' are shut off in materialist 'safe spaces' as well as doctrine and dogma to see it.
@@williamoarlock8634 Someone once wrote--"Nature, red in tooth and claw" which may sound (seem) cruel to sensitive human (spiritual) ears.
But we do inhabit (temporarily) physical bodies in a physical world which we share with many other creatures.
Perhaps in such a world, we humans (spiritual beings) are enabled to share (experience) the extremes associated with physical life ---together with their associated spiritual lessons
What a kind and illuminating talk. Thank you- you are our new priest of the mysterrium .
Thank you. I’ve learnt more in this video than my entire time I’ve spent in school
That's because School "dogmas" are not for your personal growth. Every day is more clear, isn't it?
Life is Eternal, all Life-Units have the same basic Life-structure, which mirror our Consciousness.
(Memory-Instinct-Gravity-Feeling-Intelligence-Intuition-Memory)
Planets communicate with planets, aurora borelis, volcanos and earthquakes is partly caused by this correspondence, and not only by the physical motion.
We are always conscious, when We fall at sleep, We just move our day-consciousness to our 'Night-Bodies' one by one, better known as 'deep-sleep-periods', same when We leave the physical body permanent, just much longer time, or about the same time as We stayed in the physical body.
Well Sheldrake is a very experienced person, very inspiring,
-"Life is Eternal"
-No it isn't. We know that because we can directly observe the fossil record of the earth...plus life is an abstract concept that describe a biological process having a beginning and an end. LIfe is just a concept that describes a finite chain of processes that we label as such.
-"all Life-Units have the same basic Life-structure"
-That is a vague generalization and an empty deepity in my opinion. We as observers classify specific biological processes as life based on their common characteristics. Not all life forms share the same basis of biological characteristics.
-"which mirror our Consciousness"
-LIfe forms "mirror" nothing. Consciousness is nothing more than an abstract concept about a specific quality that emerges from a specific biological process . Mental properteis aka. Consciousness emerge from the functions of a specific biological structure (brain.) This property helps biological organism to be aware and attend their biological drives and needs and avoid threats, seek shelter and food andprocreate.
-"Planets communicate with planets, "
-No communication implies mind properties.....rocky structures don't produce such properties.
-"aurora borelis"
-do you use this aurora as a buzz word???
-"volcanos and earthquakes is partly caused by this correspondence, and not only by the physical motion."
-Supernatural properties need to be verified...not assumed.
-"We are always conscious, when We fall at sleep''
-No. Our conscious states fluctuate dramatically...from being unable to be conscious about our self and our environment to ...be in high alert of everything organic or environmental.
-"e just move our day-consciousness to our 'Night-Bodies' one by one, better known as 'deep-sleep-periods',"
-I really wish you good luck providing evidence for your unfounded claims and speculations.
-"same when We leave the physical body permanent, just much longer time, or about the same time as We stayed in the physical body."
-Yes comforting death denying ideologies are always behind all those unfounded woo woo ideas.....
-"Well Sheldrake is a very experienced person, very inspiring,"
-I will agree with you on that. Sheldrake is experienced enough to know how to push his ideas attached on comforting ideas and sell them in books and lecture fees. For a failed scientist he has created a small fortune by preying on human anxieties.
@@jimbodriver1015 irrational comforting death denying ideologies.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 when I read such comments "as a failed scientist" but makes a lot of money I haven the impression that somebody is just envious about him.
His great reward is that he tries to reestablish philosophical and spiritual ideas in people's minds. Read his book of " The Science Delusion" and you will understand that the unwithspoken nearly "holiness" and absolute authority the so called "science" (only "natural" science is meant) receives, appears dogmatic and single minded, further abused ("climate change by human activity is scientifically proven" and so on..) by interest groups etc.
So he is trying to make a counterweight and shows as a learned biologist that the phenomena "life" and thus that what we call "consciousness" is still far from being understood! So that's ok to me as too many people of science tend or better pretend to know what it is all about, but actually they know nothing!
@@uweburkart373 Any scientist really interested in things like origin of life or consciousness knows that we are far from understanding it. And Sheldrake's half-baked proposals are far from "counterweight". If he were to go into theoretical background, how could be such consciousness possible, or studied for example complex ecosystems and whether such systems could produce something akin to consciousnes, or at least found some phenomena that could mean our definition of consciousness needs to be expanded. But no, listening to him is like listening to college kid, that had mushrooms for the first time. Some of his ideas may be interesting, but are ultimately shallow and lead nowhere. And he had years to take his ideas somewhere, instead he just sticks with this basic premise and uses it to sell "knowledge" to people craving for some easilly digestable form of spirituality.
@@UsmevavyPanacek May all be and is primarily your personal opinion, as anybody can utter theirs or her/his in this commentary section. (Natural-)Scientist will never grasp it because they still follow the galiean exclusion being that what he did for the first time as he stood in conflict with the catholic allmighty and "allknowing" Church + Pope. Namely he excluded anything that could be interpreted as being a substitute explanation for the Genesis Tale in the Bible, thus putting church power in peril.
Indirectly still today any (natural)scientist will avoid "esoteric" explanations or deductions or whatever leads to imperiling his/her Reputation if not following the reductionistic hard core materialistic view of the world and anything that is in it. Sheldrakes reward for me is that he gives a good overview (not all his ideas!) of what other theories are all around. Pure spiritualist will also not be satisfied as he is only tapping a bit of the vast diverse ways to search for comprehension (Erkenntnis in German is a better term) of what it is all about but more holistic than " science" will ever reach. Even Einstein, being rather an agnostic had the dream that a new cosmogonic religiosity as he called it would develop in future. He admitted too that the serious researchers are those that take into account the religious needs in this mainly materialistc world and that those are the ones deeply and truly religious.
Personally I think that the time of religions is over, although today mainstream science seems to have become an "Ersatz"-religion for some especially the astrophysisists with their weird ideas (without proofs) and mysterious speculations with "dark matter" and "dark-energies" as an example.
But a wide spread spiritualty will evolve or is already there incorporating findings from the quantumphysics and incorporating psychedelic shamanic experiences as well as yogi traditions. A kind of syncretical holistic new "religion" but without church and priests will come or is already there. Sheldrake is only a starter that I agree, the main courses and the desert is someone else!
Love his video. The ideas and theories of Rupert Sheldrake fascinate me, especially his idea of Morphic Resonance.
Consciousness was never created. Therefore, it can't be destroyed. It is truly and mindblowingly infinite.
every time you do to bed your consciousness ceases to emerge for a good chunk of time......seriously what do you even think consciousness is?
Consciousness is god, we and every other living thing are a piece of god experiencing itself. Once you understand that there is NOTHING that can truly frighten you, unfortunately there are many that don’t know this hence why humanity is controlled through fear
@Nickolas Gaspar...dreaming indicates that consciousness is still there
@@isisneteru6713 try to have surgery see if dreaming and / or consciousness is still there.
@@isisneteru6713 Not always and not in the same quality and level. Consciousness needs a healthy working brain in order to emerge....like digestion and constipation need a digestive track. All these are Biological Properties that can be "destroyed" when the organism that produces them dies.
wow!!!...I got this revelation when i was much younger but i was very sceptical and afraid to share it with anyone and it is this : That the entire universe is a cosmic brain...We are living in the body of the cosmic God ...To understand the human body and how it functions and operate , is the way to understand this huge universe in which we live
If anyone is interested I passed to the other side once. I saw the light and had the life review as most people have heard about and I was told I would not be allowed to return with the secret of the universe because I wouldn't want to stay alive. But I was allowed to return with the memory of my reaction to what was revealed to me. I remember being shocked at how simple it was. I remember saying.... Its right in front of our faces and we can't see it! Like when they say you can't see the Forrest through the trees. The only thing I can compare it to is like waking up from a dream.🤔
(Edit) UPDATE: so I've been studying physics and I've realized what it means when I said it's right n front of our faces and we can't see it. It's because there is much of the universe happening in the atomic and subatomic realm...in this life we see, we are existing in the refection of a mirror that is true reality.👈
Bingo, it's a spoiler that does not spoil 😜
Sounds like you were dreaming.
@@fungames24 row... row... row... your boat....🎶
@@SpecialistQKD Or, the mind is playing tricks with you. It's a complex mechanism and not invulnerable to failure.
Or it is us. All of it. Everything is one and it eminates from ONE consciousness that all things share perhaps?
Thanks this is a really nice accessible consciousness lecture, very engaging thanks for sharing . Also really great lecturing style Dr Sheldrake- watching helps me to improve my teaching skills.
I suppose you could say that in the universe there is one great energy that exists within all. And that energy is intelligence and consciousness. This energy becomes self conscious of itself when it's atomic complexity is that of a human being. I'm assuming that our energy will continuously evolve and take on more complex forms and become what cannot be understood with our current level of consciousness.
@spatium viator because our experience tells us we are not. Billions of people agree on this objective reality. You’re like Tucker Carlson “Hey I’m just asking questions.”
*"I suppose you could say that in the universe there is one great energy that exists within all. And that energy is intelligence and consciousness"*
I suppose anyone could say or think that or else, regardless those are only "suppositions" or deepities without any epistemic value at all..what one supposes and what actually IS are totally different things if there is no objective evidence in between.
@@mikepayne2581 *"Billions of people agree on this objective reality."*
Hm, what "objective" reality ?
@@orlando5385 He's publishing in peer reviewed journals, right? Besides empiricism is ill-suited to answering many of the really big questions. Philosophy is sometimes the best we've got..
@@leeds48 *"empiricism is ill-suited to answering all of the big questions"* 😂
If philosophy is "sometimes" the best we've got.. what is then the best we've got most of (if not all) the time?
That is empiricism, which is the experimental next level of philosophy, mate.
Thank you Dr Sheldrake for sharing your deep philo-scientific views 🎉
Wonderful, thank you for this clear and balanced talk
Engineering forces a person to see how things work. The engineer must see similar things in the non human engineered world. Many engineers see this without any comflict of understanding. It is because without it we don't exist. You can sit on the fence if an engineer, I do. It's not the most comfortable position. As with most things Plato nailed it down.
Plato nailed down quarks that spin billions of times a second as 3 points of light forming protons and neutrons?
@@pureenergy4578 lol......and talked about Google's quantum computers...lol
@AAH Replies how cute....
1.4 million views , that is so encouraging, we are waking up . Love and light to all who read and all who dont. This was just brilliant, thankyou Rupert , brilliant. 🙏👍❤️
He said "carry on as you are", just for those who don't want to watch the whole video. ....from Ireland.
A truly wonderful talk, thank you!
I am 85 and remember clearly the instants when I became conscient of being. My mother told me that I was 9 months old. I am working in trying to understand what happened to me in the passage from the baby lethargic sleep into reality and consciousness. Once I will complete what is this extraordinary passage I will be glad to share my knowledge with the world.
I have met a person who claimed that she could remember her birth. She was otherwise very down to earth, so I tend to believe her.
I would also add to this that in my experience the power of prayer also has effects on the outcome of crisis ordeals such as undergoing surgery or rehabilitative therapies. I am certain that prayers and good wishes led to a very successful colon operation I had undergone. The surgeon told me afterwards that the operation had gone "textbook" with no glitches. I could feel the calming effect that those prayers had on me and the confidence they projected inside me that all will be OK.
This is simply not true, payer has no effect on the outcome of anything. I added a link of a study.
I love his answers to any question, really glad I stumbled on this.
It's called confirmation bias....
@@nickolasgaspar9660 lol. Another dem meaningless empty bumper sticker phrase
Yes, yes I feel the same way.
An excellent seminar on consciousness. My interest lies between awareness and conscious action. is there a separation between the two where awareness at a basic level is less than cognitive consciousness. This infers levels of consciousness which is not addressed in this seminar. It does not take into account entangled particles at great distances as a resonance of frequencies. Several existing and dead religions touch on concentration of one or more of the elements he speaks of in relation to pantheism. This provides food for thought, which is what I have been looking for.
Superb lecture, covering so much ground.........
One of my favourite concepts in modern science is that of complex numbers. In the Shrodinger wave equation, you are dividing things by numbers which don't even exist in space, but space-time. Complex numbers seem to describe future potential.
Ok .....
If they exist in space- time I have my doubts. There are many more dimensions as just the ordinary 4 dimensions. They are consisting of transcendent numbers, so that is already a hint of their "out of time and space" origin. To explain the teleological movement (like natural evolution) of the world requires at least 5 or 6 dimensions. But complex numbers are really the coolest thing of reality and they are complete, so there is no further dimensions they need and no other numbers beyond them is recognizable. No number system is beyond. Our technical world would be rather impossible to be created by us without them. Who knows who (which exiting entity) created them? That's my fascinating question to me.
@@uweburkart373 good luck proving all that metaphysical baggage...
@@nickolasgaspar9660 Complex numbers are already twodimensional (planes) and are not metaphysical at all. Do not tell any Nonsense if you do not understand mathematics. But there are no further possibilities of three dimensional numbers existing for us, however nature, reality has certainly more dimensions than that, only we cannot describe them. So there is no means of proof neither. Keep your one dimensional view of the world for yourself and do not bother me and mingle in any discussion that is beyond your imagination. Metaphysical is what you cannot grasp. That's all.
@@uweburkart373
-"Complex numbers are already twodimensional (planes) and are not metaphysical at all."
- You need to define how you use the term metaphysical.
-'Do not tell any Nonsense if you do not understand mathematics. "
-Its your department....
-"But there are no further possibilities of three dimensional numbers existing for us, however nature, reality has certainly more dimensions than that, only we cannot describe them."
-Don't care....if you are unable to offer objective evidence.
-" So there is no means of proof neither. "
-You sound really confuse mate.......You need to provide objective evidence for your claims about reality.
-"Keep your one dimensional view of the world for yourself and do not bother me and mingle in any discussion that is beyond your imagination. "
-Provide evidence and I will accept as many dimensions you want me to.
If you can't you will be classified as a crackpot.
-"Metaphysical is what you cannot grasp. That's all."
- that is not the definition of the word. Pls educate yourself.
It should be noted that Rupert has been talking about 'self organisation' for decades; Michael Levin has perhaps found the actual measurable proof in his work in 'self regeneration', wherein: limbs (animal, ie us) have cellular level consciousness that directs self generation. That is huge. Rupert goes so deep here.
My family lived within walking distance of the Pacific Coast in Central America in the 1950’s. One evening, we went to the swimming area where the shark net concentrated the crowd. I wandered off beyond the net to an area that had no footprints. I was four, maybe five. I looked back to make sure my family was still in sight, and I looked down and saw my footprints. Just mine, no others, and a thought came into my head - Does the sand know I’m here? Maybe it just knows that *someone* has been walking across.”
In 1974 my future wife an I were driving across the New Mexico desert. There were small, pretty cacti everywhere. She wanted one, but I had no idea how I would dig one up. I thought maybe I could use a tire tool, a flat rock, or a stick. We finally saw a small one about a hundred feet from the road, just on the other side of a barbed wire fence. There on the ground, almost touching the cactus, was a very old shovel. It didn’t look “store bought,” more like it came from a blacksmith shop a long time ago, and most of the wooden handle was rotted off. But it worked. I thought about taking it with me but it didn’t seem right. There’s a wide, four-lane highway there now, so maybe somebody else found it when the road crews came through.
In 1984 my girlfriend (I got divorced) and I were in Bloomington Indiana, sitting behind a 1973 Ford LTD, on a motorcycle. That car probably weighed over 5,000 pounds. All along the road there were signs that said “NO PASSING ON THE SHOULDER.” I’m 70 years old - I’ve never gotten a traffic ticket. I’m almost obsessive-compulsive about following the rules… But, a few seconds after stopping behind that big Ford, a kind of wordless thought screamed in my mind *MOVE* so, I passed on the shoulder. As we were passing, the Ford lurched forward into the car directly in front, pushing that car into the next one, and we heard the sound of metal being bent, crunched, and twisted. Somebody in what looked like a Toyota had slammed into the Ford, apparently without even hitting the brakes. Yeah, breaking the Law saved two lives.
There have been a few incidents of uncommon thoughts and very against-the-odds events in my life, not enough to think I’m psychic or anything, just enough to make me wonder if something’s going on. But none of them compare to the strangest thing I ever SAW, with my brother standing next to me, who saw the same thing. Nobody believes me when I speak of it, except the most rabid UFO hounds. And it was really no more than a pinpoint of light in the sky, which, at first we thought was a satellite, doing impossible shit - as in, against the laws of physics.
I had a feeling like that once of knowing what was coming even though I couldn’t know, can’t be bothered to type it out right now, but provoked similar questions for me, that also led me to this lecture
In fact, we can prove logically that without a mind creating a matrix of continuous space as a system of co-ordinates, scientific observation is impossible: It can only happen through comparative positioning within the greater mind space. This lucid presentation fleshes out the hidden assumptions we must acknowledge despite centuries of materialistic indoctrination.
Space consists of electrical energy fields, which we also consist of. This matrix vibrates/pulsates within us and everywhere else. It is INTELLIGENCE itself. We are constantly being created by it.
Because I had a NDE or near death experience as a child I knew there was no death then. I have no hidden assumptions like others that say they are physical and then die.
privileged people...using science's fruits to argue against an irrelevant worldview.
You can not prove or demonstrate or verify ANYTHING without objective reproducible evidence....and you have zero evidence for a magical mind...whatever that means to you.
@@pureenergy4578 because your had an experience and you labeled it NDE....your messed up interpretation....somehow expands to the nature of reality....lol sure.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 Perhaps more logic and better syntax would help your comment's lucidity. Who is arguing 'against an irrelevant worldview', and what are 'science's fruits'? Can I eat them? You seem to have a magical mind. In any case, the objective, reproducible evidence here is the presence of the human mind that is separate from the reality it knows (unless you don't believe that you can know anything that is not you). This is objective evidence that at least part of the universe with a material element can have a mind - you. It is not magic, it is a fact, unless you don't believe you have a mind which is fine with me.
@@mireklalas or I have a better idea... we can take this to MY mother tongue and see how quickly your smartassery is wiped from your comments.
Now existential claims are verified through Objective evidence...not with arm chair pseudo logic.
-"Who is arguing 'against an irrelevant worldview',"
-You are. You are including "scientific observation and materialistic indoctrination" in the same paragraph when anyone with basic knowledge understands that science is based on Methodological Naturalism...not materialism.
-" and what are 'science's fruits'? Can I eat them? "
-You eat them every day...you literally use a device hook on the internet....both products of ....impossible scientific observations to post your ignorant statements about science and the ways we establish knowledge.
-"You seem to have a magical mind"
-Says the guy who tries to promote one unfalsifiable worldview by accusing others.....lol the irony.
-" In any case, the objective, reproducible evidence here is the presence of the human mind that is separate from the reality it knows ''
-You were saying something about magical thinking.........lol
What are those reproducible evidence mate? How is an emergent function of the brain....separate from reality...whatever that means!
-" (unless you don't believe that you can know anything that is not you)."
-I don't know what your new strawman is aiming for.
Knowledge is any claim that is based on objective facts of reality. So do know many things.
-"This is objective evidence that at least part of the universe with a material element can have a mind - you. ''
-Why are you projecting such a vague story. We know that specific biological structures can produce specific mental properties. The total sum of those are identified as a Mind.
-" It is not magic, it is a fact, unless you don't believe you have a mind which is fine with me."
-I guess you are part of the new woo woo school who try to promote the mind as evidence for the supernatural....good luck with that...I guess.
Rupert, your ideas of a Conscious Universe are fanciful to most people, but I hope you are right. It ties in with my belief in an Electric Universe.
I am working towards repairing my soul from earlier damage, prior to passing on to the next plain of existence.
I wish you well in your endeavours, the Universe needs more souls like you.
alllll living beings in this universe need to watch this. thank you Dr. Rupert🙏🙏🙏
Why would most living beings at all be interested in this?
Walking across the sussex downs with my dogs I suddenly experienced contact with everything the trees grass and it went on past all that.It was not a an observation but a sort of tuning in to nature the same as everything else was feeling.
Wow how exciting 🌈💐🐈⬛🤗🌹
You were probably having a slight
stroke ? Best see your GP .!
We have to go beyond all science, all the known dimension.The left brain era is ending and it has led us into a disaster.
If you experiences a contact with trees and grass then you need to watch where you going. You were lucky that there was grass there and you didn't land on a hard pavement after crashing on that tree sir!
@@bertibear1300 we have to go beyond all sciences? Lol and how on earth are we going to evaluate claims that cannot be falsified objectively. We did that during the middle ages and that didn't end well for our epistemology mate...
I can listen to you sir all day. You're a great thinker and even though I don't agree with some of your ideas, You deserve your due credits. Thank you for forcing us to think deeper about issues of life and consciousness. Science needs to agree that it doesn't understand all about life.
Science is perfectly aware it doesnt know everything That is why science continues to investigate. And just because it can't explain everything in no way means that some imagined viewpoint with no empirical evidence is right.
Who ever had an out of body or near death experience, or is practising mediation and is involved in well, one may call it "exploration of spiritual sciences" for some time, knows by experience that there is much, much more to it then we think what the "real world" consists of. Not to mention the magical quantum entanglement and such physical phenomena not visible to the human eye.
quantum entanglement alone should hv made even the hardest sceptic to consider the possibility of a 4th or greater dimension and existence beyond the physical reality we perceive.
@godof79 so genius, what do u propose is the reason for 2 particles after being split up to be able to communicate with each other while they are separated from one end of the universe to the other end in this quantum entanglement phenomenon? i think they are still connected via a higher dimension which we have yet to discover.
Nothing in this realm is "magical", magic is a word to describe something we don't yet comprehend, and just becuase we can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there. For example the electromagnetic fields, they are there, our visual senses are too primitive to see such amazing things, same with ultraviolet and infrared, both wavelengths we can't see, yet, they are there.
@@benzpinto the 4th is stated as time, we live in a 3d+1 meaning we can see the 3d, but time is something that falls over into our dimension. While I would like the idea of a time machine, it would be completely useless to us. For every time we would go back in time, the reality we started in, would be a different one, meaning there should be multiverse and an infinite number of outcomes.
@godof79 oh so u r the one with the proven answers and i speak rubbish. sure, have it that way if it does good to your inflated ego. as far as it goes, all explanation on QE are just theory. there is no proven law at this point just as with many fenomenon in quantum mechanics. when nothing can be proven or disproved, any discussion on the subject is a waste of time. goodbye
The most interesting video on TH-cam, surely.
look up for Thom Campbell & you ll see what conciousness is about...:)
His voice and delivery is as elegant as his theories.....
delightful discussion.
these are great times
@Ron Albin your mind travels impoverished roads.
@@wisconsinfarmer4742 repacked death denying ideologies of the medieval era...this is what this "delightful discussions" are recycling.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 have a nice trip
@@wisconsinfarmer4742 lol......you see things...
@@nickolasgaspar9660 Yeah, generally through bullshit colored glasses.