Headliner R2 Review: Is This The Rotary You're Looking For? | Beatsource Tech
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- Headliner’s R2 was one of the highlights of the NAMM show this year, catching attention as one of the most affordable rotaries to ever hit the market. On the new episode of beatsource tech we take a good look at the analogue, 2 channel mixer, and ask if it can find a place for itself amongst the other budget offerings out there - or even compete with more boutique options.
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I was ready to buy this until I saw the issue with the filter. Thanks for the honest review, saved me the trouble of buying it.
"Rotary-curious" killed me 😂
Everyone is at least a LITTLE rotary curious.
&me 😂
I got into rotary accidentally, for a while i could not have any music out loud. So I used to practice on my headhpones (for fun) using the gains. Not ideal but it somewhat gave me a semblance of being able to mix. When I finally was able to have sound out loud. The faders just didn't feel the same, I missed the knobs. So I Googled "are there mixers that are knobs only" or something like that, and stumbled into rotary mixers. I was blown away that there was such a thing. Then I saw the prices and was like ok not ready to drop 3k, not that I would not but was not sure at the time if it was just a fad for me. So I found the Omnitronic, and damn I just love it. Feel right at home with it. It does the job, will upgrade in the future but for now I don't see a need. Looking to pick this up once it is out of pre-order.
Thanks Mojaxx for another honest rotary review (best yt ch for reviews of these types of mixers). They seem to be coming more mainstream now, far more companies are producing them now than 10 yrs ago.
My first Rotary mixer that I've played is my own Omnitric trm 202 MK2. Same evening that I've picked it up played also with the trm 402. Tbh, the 202mk2 sounds a lot, and I mean a lot better than the 402. Would only change my trm 202mk2 for a mastersounds radius 4v because I own 3 Technics 1200 MK2's. But I fell in love with rotary mixers. Yes I have modded my trm from the aluminum knobs to the vintage knobs and an omniwood kit for that real high end look. Nice review Mojaxx ! Hope you are doing the ecler warm 4 soon!
Great review Mo! My first rotary was an Intimidation Apex Gold. It was a very odd mixer if y'all remember, though way ahead of its time. Very interesting story about the manufacturer as well. Glad to see more budget friendly rotaries coming to the market. Cheers
Love the fact there’s more options for rotaries… my first experience was using the rotary mode on my old DB4 but muscle memory meant I kept messing up mixes because I was so used to faders, so switching the effects onto the faders made it hard to unlearn… I decided to buy the 4 channel subzero, which was excellent… side by side with digital inputs it sounded as good as the db4 but the vinyl preamps were weak so I upgraded to a MasterSounds… now the db4 has gone I’ll be upgrading my nxs2 to rotary, then sell the MasterSounds and the long term goal is the MasterSounds v4 mk2…. I’m definitely hooked and using rotary suits my mixing style.
Bought yesterday :)
The sound is really clear and cool.
I prefer than the xone23.
But allen and Heather have Better filter
Hey Mo great review and glad you have a passion for rotary 👋
my first rotary experience was with an Urei 1620 in a Gary Stewart Soundsystem. As for an affordable options I would recommend an MC Audio Kit because if it's not your cup of tea, you can go back to the vanilla state of that mixer and if you like then build your way up and buy another one in the future (if applicable)
I think it's great to have a product like this available popping filter and all.
My first rotary mixer experience was at a gig i landed out in Hollywood and i knew this night they had some weird, old looking mixer all the DJ’s were fawning over back in 2006. It was the Rane MP2016 gen 1 with no split cue. I was deathly afraid of this. But once i was given a proper demo of it. I never turned back. Knobs over faders!
Why? Faders do the same thing as knobs and more.
@@miamiwax5504the precision you can get from the rotary knobs vs line faders are much different, its meant for extremely delicate mixing and very niche styles. Plus alot of rotary mixers are all analog and run tube amps which have a different sound but thats a whole other discussion.
i got a subzero dmr-400 4 channel rotary. which is basically the clone of the omnitronic 4 channel rotary. I got it for under $400 but had to ship from the UK. and i had to buy a IEC cable because it didnt have one for american outlets. but its great considering i only use it every now and then. its not my go to mixer. I really only use it when im spinning house. very satisfied considering its a budget mixer.
The first rotary mixer I've used is the first one I bought; the Omnitric TRM 402. Absolutely fun entry level mixer. Then afterwards, I bought the Ecler Warm 2 which I currently use for my current DJ setup. Sound wise, the Warm 2 is far superior than the 402. I've had my eyes on the Warm 4 but seriously thinking about taking my time and saving up to get exactly the high end boutique mixer that I want (no hurry) which most likely be my first and last. I can honestly say that I'm hooked on rotaries and haven't used any of my linear mixers going on three years now.
Budget rotaries are a good starting point to see if they fit your style mixing. With me as I get more familiar with these mixers, so does my ears...I want the most cleanest analog sound I can possibly get. As they say, "you get what you pay for" and I'm going for outstanding craftsmanship and sound quality. 14:59
I have no interest in rotary mixers but if it's a Mojaxx video... I'm all in lol
Thanks for this great review. Can you please let us know your opinion on sound as compared to the price-comparable Xone 23?
Thx Mojaxx,Bro!!
Still love my Vestax Pmc 250R.
But in future i would like to buy a Henderson Model X)
Greetinx from Berlin.
Rotarys Rulezzz.Bless.
I think it is very well designed DJ mixer, despite the switching noise issue that Mojaxx mentioned. External AC adapter is a bit annoying, but it does minimize noise issue from AC source. I do wish that it was 3 channel DJ mixer without the built-in filter, which I suspect that it is DSP.
Pls review Traktor X1 mk3, Im considering to get one, just waiting on your review! tks! =)
i like cross faders so though its cute its not for me but if others like it then cool.With mixers there is quite a bit to choose from
Xone 92 rotary 👌
Had this in my shopping cart a few minutes ago and then I see this video.
Please review Resor Electronics rotary mixers
Soon...
I still hope for a Behringer rotary mixer. Also, what's the big deal with a master isolator? It has never appealed to me at all when you can have one for each channel, like in this one.
Urie! Now I use rane rotary in the club!
I currently have a low/mid range fader mixer -the Reloop RMX44 But im looking to switch to rotary. Would switching to this be a drop audio in quality?
Major bummer about the popping filter. I’m considering parting with my Omnitronic 202 and going with this anyway as I do like the full EQ kill this offers.
i keep thinking about going rotary, especially with the type of music i mix & never using the crossfader; but i can't bring myself to part with the filter & audio quality of the lowly xone 23. as "rotary curious" as i am, i feel like this would be a step backwards.
Ordering.
How do you compare this to the ecler warm 2?
does it sounds better than a digital mixer like the popular DJM900 NXS2?
Just bought one and arriving today also own a xone 23 which has served me well since i've had it, going to see which will be the one i'll be taking to gigs and which i'll be leaving at home, gonna have to see what's up with the filter but don't think it'll be a huge bother.
Any feelings on R2?
@@trevchumby Currently I have it at home for vinyl mixing and listening. My Xone is still currently my go-to for performances and events. But I will be using the R2 this Friday for a vinyl set. That said, I think I will have to agree it's definitely a good deal. But the filter will eventually annoy you, the sound is a bit lack luster, and the more and more I use it I realize it may have been a bit of a cash grab for the opportunity to own a rotary. I saw it on another reviewers video but even some of my lo mid and hi knobs aren't even centered correctly... the notch is not where it's supposed to be and funnily enough when I move it to where it should be, it changes the sound every so slightly. But noticeable.
My recommendation, skip the R2, get a Xone if you don't have one already. If you have a Xone and don't want to spend a thousand + on a arguably better rotary and craftsmanship but want the novelty of owning a rotary the R2 will serve you fine.
@@aljxdro thanks for getting back. I’m just dusting off my Technics mk2’s after nearly 2 decades of hibernation - couldn’t find any of my old mixers…Last mixer I remember having was the Technics 1200.
In the last 10 - 15 yrs, I’ve been down the music production rabbit hole…
Adverts for the Resør have been popping up on instagram. The look and build quality of high end Rotary mixers is all very appealing, but not sure I want to throw down £1800+ just yet!!!
It will only be an occasional home use thing - my wife is allowing me to build a booth/bar area in our living room.
As long as the sound quality is passable. I’m not too bothered about the effects - I’ll probably use one of the many effects units I own.
I’ve seen the R2 for around £299 which is extremely budget friendly. But is it a case of “buy nice or buy twice” or the similar phrase “buy once, cry once” 😅
I will continue to ponder….
I for one welcome not having an Isolator on a tabletop Rotary. Some of us already have ISO's, either rack units or the portable ones. So it's redundant. I would rather see companies build that value back into the mixer or offer a send / return loop instead.
That pop the filter creates is a deal breaker, but would like to play on it if it were to ever show up at a gig
I commented above regarding the off-center 12 o'clock position before I saw your comment and proceeded to the relevant time code of the video. proves my point exactly that these folks have zero attention to detail.
I want to go over from a Roland controller to a rotary but my issue is I cannot afford a pair of CDJ's and although I purchase alot of white label vinyl the vast majority of my collection is digital. What media player options do I have.
Get a Traktor A6, Traktor X1, any mixer you want and you're ready to go. I combine it with turntables, but often just play controlling with the X1. Love it because I can use whatever mixer I want, from my Condesa to old Vestax's etc. A6 and X1 are not expensive and amazing products.
OK so could you use 2 X1's to control channel 1 and 2. Would that work with only the USB being connected to the A6
@@jonathanhill1483 you only need 1 X1 to control 2 channels.
Get yourself a Denon Sc5000/6000 initially and use the dual output into channel 1 and 2 - then, save a bit more and buy yourself a second Denon player if you wish
Mmmm, that filter pop, is it a general issue or a faulty unit?
you don't understand how the resonance knob works. All the way up to the right it puts a bump at the slope and this should have a difference in level. Test it with the resonance knob turned all the way down and the it is likely the eq slope should be quite flat. rarely do filters have a non-neutral slope when the resonance is all the way down.
Is there an Ecler Warm 4, coming up soon?
Yup
@Mojaxx thank you. Looking forward to it.
naw, the off-center 12 o-clock knob position is a huge red flag. if you can't be bothered with those simple details, you're definitely cutting ALL the corners where it counts. at $400 I was intrigued until this was pointed out, and that took less than 2 1/2 minutes of this scroll.
whats the id of the track guys?
that filter popping is a dealbreaker for me.... bizarre they let that slide. i prefer 3 isolators anyways tbh
👍👍👍👍👍
Really really nice design, real shame about the filter popping
This is xone 22 😊
first comment! Yeyyy
You don't have to be a Rotary member to get involved with Rotary .
Mojaxx, is evverything okay with you? You look ill and lost weight. Hope you're well and your health is okay!
Putting that huge filter pot, right in the middle between ch 1/2 =EPIC FAIL!
Why do they release these products with popping filters? Literally kills 100% of any interest I might have in one.
I guess the companies are always looking for standout features to include, and on an analogue mixer like this, there aren't really a lot of options for those - especially without raising the price significantly.
That popping filter is a game-breaker IMO. It renders its most dominant, eye-catching feature completely useless.
wish it had USB connectivity, sadly a pass for me
if you dont play Wav / master files or vinyl...forget all those rotaries.......
dude you lost some heavy weight
poor mixer
Using DC power bricks? Nah F that. AC power cable or nothing. Hard pass for me