People keep saying that Adrienne was desperate for marriage,but if that was the case she would've just went through with her first engagement. Instead she chose to call if off. Better to call off an engagement, then to be filing for divorce down the road.
Im sorry but I don't agree, it's clear Lenny was pressured into proposing and did not really want to commit I think he probably wanted a long engagement or was not really showing that he wanted to be married, so Adrienne breaking it off and jumping into another relationship that has some serious history shows to me that she is in a rush to get married and from all the times that she said she really wants to be married by 30 I agree with Prisma Gonzalez it's all messy
Eh, I think people say she was desperate for marriage more because she rushed to get married to a freshly-divorced cheater, rather than waiting to find a better catch..
I love how real they're getting in these segments. Adrienne was speaking for a lot of people out there. Just because you spent years dating doesn't mean you have to say yes just for the sake of being married. Those types of marriages don't last.
Empressive in 6 years she convinced herself she was going to be with him forever....soon as he proposed she felt different lol shows time can effect people decision differently
But who in their right mind spends years dating anyway? Most people know within the first few months if the person they're with is a suitable life partner. In my opinion, you are wasting precious time if the end goal isn't marriage within two years. Ridiculous the time and resources people waste playing house from buying cars, property, swapping DNA, having babies, and etc. that married people do but don't got the legal papers and tax credit to show for it.
they have to get the right person. Like a pre-screen, because once they had a mom who said she didn't think her son's gf was attractive and it was super awkward.
If my man proposed to me in public .. I'd be pissed af. I hate that pressure and I'd hate all eyes and cameras on me. But I will say yes even if it's a no.. than walk away with him like.... "are you dumbbbb? *remy ma voice*"
I don't think you "really really know" the man you marry until you marry them. That's why you hear about people being together for 15 years, married for 1, and then divorced.
Agree! Divorce used to be a LAST resort for many. Now so many people are like "Oh well, it didn't work out. Everybody gets divorced anyway." I agree. It's more about people not taking time to work on the relationship.
Beinglively hmm that's true. Divorce shouldn't be an option. Take it out of the equation and keep God in the centre #goals. I saw a quote that said "Never once in all my years being married have I considered divorce, murder yes, but never divorce" lol
yessss exactly there is no rule to be honest!! people give u a lot of advices! Like marry someone ur happy with then u chose someone but he might not treat u how u wanted to be treated!!!
I'm sorry but I'm not gonna date you for 4, 5, 6, 7 years! all that time and you old after and then oh he's not the one. You ain't gonna eat up all my youthful years. 😒
Britzz Bae Exactly! What a waste of time, I think the most I would do is 2 years, maybe 3 years but I think that's pushing it, 1.5 years would be ideal for me. The honeymoon stage doesn't last for 2 years so that should be more than enough time.
Yeah I totally feel you adrienne. Sometimes we agree to things becos we feel like it has to go there, those years invested had to be "rewarded". She was in her right to think being engaged would change their dynamic. She was the bravest to come out 6months later saying " it's not happening you guys"
awkward is putting it lightly...he could resent the hell out of you and you could just be like yuck I said no a d you're still here...if I say no, I'm out
I appreciate Adrienne for opening up. Its so easy to succumb to societal pressures. We have all fallen in that trap in one way or the other, so for Adrienne to get out of the engagement must have required ALOT of strength. Young women like myself can learn a thing or two from her
6 years is a long time to invest in someone. That's a gamble waiting that long. Because if the relationship doesn't work out then your 6 years older and you can't get that time back!
Ms. Beautiful But when it comes down to spending your time with someone that you love, there's no counting. Whether or not that relationship results in a marriage, those two individuals still got to enjoy and learn from each other. Sounds corny but there's no countdown. If you really believe that you are going to spend the rest of your life with someone then there's no risk in waiting 5-6 years before legally binding yourselves together.
Ms. Beautiful I agree, there's no guarantee that you'll get married and end up together so I would never date anyone for that length of time. I think it's a big waste of time especially for women who want children.
Ms. Beautiful but if you're going to marry someone you should be sure. So if they wait six years and then get married at least they know for sure they want to marry this person instead of doing two years and then getting married and going trough a divorce
Adrienne and women like her don't like to admit the real reason they stay in a purposeless relationship so long is because of the sex or that they just need somebody to be with and hate being alone. Or combo of both. Case in point - J.Lo.
Nwver staying in a relationship that long...its a waste of time lol ive knew of couple who were together 5 + years and never got married yet when they broke up the man or woman married someone quickly after lmaoo
Oh wow Adrienne got real. It was pretty sad hearing that she knew the relationship wasn't gonna work when she moved across the country. She seemed so excited when she announced the engagement on the show but I guess it hadn't settled in yet and she was just happy to be engaged.
If a guy made it all the way through buying a ring and proposing without knowing that she'd say no, there's a problem. Either he jumped the gun, or she hid something. It's not a dealbreaker, but its also not a good sign.
LadyChaos101 Some don’t since that’s why the woman says no. It should be talked about first though. You should talk about it first and know that your partner is going to say yes.
My fiance and I just got engaged after being together for 6 1/2 years but we're teenagers when we started dating so I think it's understandable and reasonable why we've waited this long lol. We are now 23 and 25 years old :) Getting married next year June 2018!
I don't think a relationship is over after a failed proposal because either she's not ready or she feels that she needs to spend more time with him before she makes that big step to marriage.
Ivy Meadows wow....can I ask why that is? I've heard many women say that and I never understood why most women are so desperate to get married. I'm personally married and as happy as I am it was never something I felt I NEEDED to be happy. It just happened and I love it but I don't get why women think marriage is the ultimate goal/prize in life that will solve all their problems and bring them to paradise? Lol
I was in a situation similar to Adrienne's, I started dating a guy I didn't like romantically out of pressure he applied to take our friendship to the next level. We dated for about a year and a half. I knew he wanted to marry me, but I wasn't in love with him. It was a very difficult thing for me to have to break up with him. I literally had to go to God for help w/how to do it. Thank God he gave me the words to say, and the strength I needed to have that very hard conversation with him. I broke up w/him before anymore time could pass and his feelings grow any stronger. I broke up with him and never regretted it.
Loni's undereye powder looks like its still in the baking process. I don't understand how her makeup artist doesn't see this. Enjoyed the segment though
Bola Obafemi Her artist should use topaz ben nye powder or a translucent one, banana comes off too bright with the lights and on camera. I dont think he makes her highlight and contour natural enough for daytime television. Its comes off sometimes as too heavy like going to the club makeup.
i never want to be one of those women that says yes just cause he asks. but my aunt told me a proposal is exactly what the name entails, which means youre not locked into getting married. this is the time when both people really see if they want to get married to one another and to never feel guilty about calling it off. an engagement can always be back on, divorce is not free.
My husband proposed 5 times before I accepted it. We got married 4 months later. He is my first everything and I am glad he is the man I chose to be with. I heard horror stories about men changing after marriage and after the get the cherry. Knowing what I know now I would have agreed the first time. Ps. We were friends for 5 years and then dated for 2 years and now married for 2 years🥰 I love it!
I feel like a lot of ppl put pressure on couples to get married. Either one of the couple is pressuring the other person or family and friends. And then add on the idea that ppl aren't looking at what marriage really is about. they're just in the moment and want to experience the "wedding magic" That's why divorce has become so rampant. They do it for the wrong reasons. Ppl always say you should follow your heart but I think you have to follow your instincts more.
Jeannie's comment wins the day! Couples need to discuss marriage prior to a proposal. Personally, I think a man shouldn't ask unless he knows she will say yes.
I said yes to an engagement that I should've said no too. It ended because I knew in my heart it wasn't what God wanted for me, it was what I wanted for me and I truly believe that Gods timing is perfect timing. We were able to remain friends because we communicated openly and honestly and Respected each other's truth.
Lola Love Adrienne didn't bring up the specific question Tamera asked her. The Real doesn't mean that they're obligated to disclose EVERY detail of their lives, especially a breakup after a 6-year relationship. That was probably a little painful and personal for Adrienne to talk about, not to mention it might have been personal for Lenny. When one of the co-hosts started laughing, Adrienne got serious and said, "actually, that's not funny." Also, in case you didn't notice, after Tamera realized she put Adrienne on the spot, she backpedaled and asked if it was ok for her to ask that. Sometimes I like Tamera's advice, but sometimes she gives off this holier-than-thou attitude and acts like some type of relationship guru, just because she's been happily married for 5 WHOLE years. And, yes, I do think she was being shady with that question, pressuring Adrienne to admit that she knew the relationship was over before accepting the proposal. Tamera was probably secretly judging Adrienne and Lenny's relationship the whole time and thinks that because they're over, it's ok to admit it.
peanutjelly Adrienne brought it up and I don’t think Tamera was trying to be shady I think she was asking Adrienne what she felt the proposal and when she knew it wasn’t gonna work that’s a genuine question to ask someone and tbh if Adrienne didn’t want to talk about the topic of that relationship then she shouldn’t have brought it up
Are we just not gonna talk about that guy in the clown suit who proposed on the real and his girl didn't look happy until she saw the ring???😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sometimes, I think about it and I just stop and shake my head
Looking back now and seeing the old episodes and how much they brought up marriage and getting engaged to Adrienne, I could see her feeling like she has to say yes.
It's a difference between "no" and "not yet" . I agree with Loni: it depends on how she says no. Also agree with the husband in the audience. Thanks Adrienne for clearing that up. Truly appreciate Adrienne's sincerity and transparency here.
First off, before a guy could even think to ask a girl "the question" he would have to know that she's on the same page. This is why communication is so important. He would know when is a good time to ask as to guarantee himself a yes. So i say no.
I know exactly what Adrienne was talking about. Glad I called the engagement off before it was too late, even though some family members weren't happy. I knew it wasn't going to work but I definitely felt both pressured and deserving of that ring and I believe I will get it one day from the right person.
I agree with Adrienne. Plus if you’re in a relationship for a year or more, conversations about marriage should have been had. If they say No and give a reason, I feel it is hard to keep the relationship going. But it depends on the context of the relationship.
I don't think it's over. Sometimes ppl propose thinking it would be a quick fix but the woman (who was proposed to) may be like "nah, we gotta fix our relationship before we get married". Sometimes the proposing may be in the moment and the gf is like um, no this is too rushed. It's better to say no than to say yes, get married, then end up getting divorced.
Y v Well, actually, sort of like in my case, if he proposes and she wants to work on having a future together in the hopes of marriage at the end, but she's not ready to start planning a wedding and setting a date, because she feels that she's not there, YET, then say, Yes (claim her future husband, while letting others know that she is completely unavailable), but just ask for time (an extended engagement) to get on the exact same page, as him or a better look and feel about herself, as a woman, and then set a date; otherwise, say No, knowing that the relationship is over.
I said, "the relationship is over," because her saying No means that she's not on his future-maturity and mindset, and since women mature quicker than men, she'll never be on his same page, always wanting something else or going in a different direction.
thanks adrienne. i haven't heard her speak on it as much. thought it was a sensitive subject and tbh I'm about to get my relationship tested in the same way.
I was proposed to, I didn't say no but I asked him to slow down a little, which at that point was a no. We broke up a month later. I just felt like I was too young. Don't regret it one bit.
Soo Adrienne knew she didn't wanna marry Lenny but she accepted the proposal anyway 🙄 soo she wasted his time.. that's why it didn't work out because they weren't for each other.
#MakeupByBrit I also think that she was pressured by her family. I mean everyone is different but if it were me and I wasn't sure about it, I wouldn't accept..
Maybe it's just because I'm young but I don't think there is any rush to get married. You don't need to be married to continue to love each other, there should not be a time limit.
So Tamera didn't understand ''the black book'' expression and the otherr did? And no matter what people will say about Adrienne including myself, I have to admit that she has a very undestanding mind and she knows very well how to articulate someone else's thought. Tamera calm down. You need to learn whit who you have to be rude. Don't be rude to everybody only because you have much energy to spent.
I feel (if that was me) Tamara needs to apologize for telling that man "He's contradicting himself " after Adrienne explaining, that's where the apology needed to come in.. But that's just my 2 cents, my life ain't jack. lol. Carry on.
Ya, couples should discuss when they plan on getting married so there are no surprises. Truthfully, if I were a guy. I would leave with my bruised ego after that one. Lol
I think it depends on the reason why the proposal was rejected. If it was just because the time/timing wasn't right, then I believe a relationship can survive it. The love for your partner might be there, you just might not be personally ready to make that commitment which is understandable. But if it was rejected because the person isn't right (e.g. Adrienne and Lenny) and you don't feel for your partner what your partner feels for you, then it's probably best to just go your separate ways and not waste each other's time.
I'm only 19 but when I have a boyfriend later on I will tell him to propose privately like with no family and no strangers/public because I don't want to embarass him and I will feel pressured to say yes
I love this show and have been watching from day 1! and yes Age is right every one kept asking "oh when you gonna get marry blah blah " ditto I felt like that was a force engagement bc of it being a national tv show and it being brought up all the time, she did the right thing she followed her heart and married the man of HER dreams not what the media or the outside world wanted!!! and you can see the happiness written all over her face when she speaks about her husband!!! and you can see it in the opening when they are coming out to their seats, she looks to the side and gives her man the sexy eye and gives him a little dance!!! get it Adrienne God bless your union with your husband 💜⚘
Ahhh. 6:49. Tension bomb. It seems like adrienne started the topic of calling off engagements in 3rd person to take the pressure off of her being asked about when she did it and when Tamara asked her personally, "how did YOU feel" adrienne was just about ready to smack a bitch for a millisecond.🙉🐸🍵🍻 and Tamara tried to save herself by saying "do you wanna answer that question". 😂 awkward.
Why is it ok for a girl to say "No, not now or not ready" but if the man takes awhile to propose than immediately he's known to not want to compromise and he's kicked to the curb.... double standards?
Lauren A Actually you can but the thing I agree with is infauation wears off and so do the rose colored glasses so now you gotta figure out how to really make it with this person.
Summer Lyric exactly, so you then see that person in a different light. A light you've never seen before once those "rose colored glasses" wear off. This still proves that you need MORE TIME to get to know them beyond the infatuation stage in order to TRULY know who they are. A lot of people are blinded by this stage and rush into a marriage that's not for them.
Not necessarily... I think you can still date and still be together and if the woman says yes after thinking about it and not be pressured into saying yes just because... and she doesn't really want to then it's wasting her and his time !
Adrienne you explain that very well, he was not contradicting himself, he was Saying just what Adrienne had explain, thank you Adrienne for your thoughts!!!
I have been there I felt the same way that Adrienne Explained, I felt as if I had put so much time and effort into the relationship and I deserved to say yes, and it was the wrong thing to do
I can imagine it actually being a really hard thing standing there in that moment when someone you care about is on there knee exposing there heart and asking you to give your future to them and having to say no. If your absolutely sure you don't have a future together it might be easier but what if you love them but don't know if it is a forever commitment?
Just because I might say no, doesn't mean I have to leave or he has to leave. If I say yes, that doesn't mean I have to get married pronto. I would say yes but stay engaged for a while just to see what direction things start going. And determine whether or not I want to get married to that person from there. It's very simple. But as always people have to complicate life by doing and putting extra stuff on everything, instead of just living.
If a man proposes and the woman says no, they aren't on the same page. Usually couples have the conversation when they feel like they're getting to that point. So I think the relationship is over or serious communication needs to happen because something isn't right
One time my ex and I went shopping for ear rings for me. Turns out he wanted to see wedding rings and had my finger sized. When we went to the counter he asked if I wanted to get married within the same week. I looked at him and said NO! Why? I'm not financially stable, don't have my own place and have my own car. I rather get financially ready then get married. The funny thing is that the employee heard my answer and wanted to see if my ex would walk away. I'm glad that we didn't do it.
Yup! I said "NO" several times and then gave in and said "YES" because I thought he was going to be a father to my son. Didn't even say Yes for love or convenience in NO way!! Stayed married and miserable for eight years, then divorced and then he died a month after the divorce. At this point I don't even want to EVER be married again!! That's just how I feel @ the moment!!
In my opinion, out of respect for her now husband, I think she should stop having these deeply and long explanations of her past engagement. She would not like it at all if Israel kept talking about his engagement and marriage to his ex wife
I applaudddd Adrienne so so much for sharing and expressing herself , as she did NOT have to do the way so many of you all have been so mean and derogatory towards her. This young woman has been through so much and being in the public eye doesn't make it any easier especially at the time when she was with Lenny.
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People keep saying that Adrienne was desperate for marriage,but if that was the case she would've just went through with her first engagement. Instead she chose to call if off. Better to call off an engagement, then to be filing for divorce down the road.
Prisma Gonzalez how does that make sense? You clearly didn't watch the rest of the video
Im sorry but I don't agree, it's clear Lenny was pressured into proposing and did not really want to commit I think he probably wanted a long engagement or was not really showing that he wanted to be married, so Adrienne breaking it off and jumping into another relationship that has some serious history shows to me that she is in a rush to get married and from all the times that she said she really wants to be married by 30 I agree with Prisma Gonzalez it's all messy
Eh, I think people say she was desperate for marriage more because she rushed to get married to a freshly-divorced cheater, rather than waiting to find a better catch..
But jumped into another relationship and got marri3d quickly and while he was married thats desperate
Ms. Beautiful 👏👏👏
I love how real they're getting in these segments. Adrienne was speaking for a lot of people out there. Just because you spent years dating doesn't mean you have to say yes just for the sake of being married. Those types of marriages don't last.
Empressive your comments are good
Empressive in 6 years she convinced herself she was going to be with him forever....soon as he proposed she felt different lol shows time can effect people decision differently
Random things Aww you're so sweet thank you! 😊
But who in their right mind spends years dating anyway? Most people know within the first few months if the person they're with is a suitable life partner. In my opinion, you are wasting precious time if the end goal isn't marriage within two years. Ridiculous the time and resources people waste playing house from buying cars, property, swapping DNA, having babies, and etc. that married people do but don't got the legal papers and tax credit to show for it.
Empressive
Amen!
Finally getting this Lenny tea ☕️... There's definitely more to the story but I'll wait 👀
Hahahahahaha
As soon as I heard Adrienne say what she said, I was like *coughLENNYcough* 😂😂😂
That brother from the audience wanted Loni.. lol😅😊😂
Ms Me 😳
Right lol
😂😂😂
Adrienne holds onto that mug as though it were going to run away!
MrS98VAC she really does!!!
MrS98VAC the mugs have hot water or hot tea and they hold on to it because it's so cold in the studio. You can see Jeannie holding on as well
It makes her feel safe people with anxiety hold on to things
I love when they engage with the audience. They should do it more!
Yaras Jenny what show have you been watching they certainly should not!
This is why I love watching the real daytime , it is genuine , Because there isn't many shows like this anymore .
jbandsglover and why the hell not
they have to get the right person. Like a pre-screen, because once they had a mom who said she didn't think her son's gf was attractive and it was super awkward.
Yaras Jenny why? So Tamera can get all in her feelings and then be rude to them. Nah we good without that
Remember the box of carrots that Lenny proposed to Adrienne with? LOL
Lol oh yeh wasn't it oranges though?
JackGeezy85 😂😂😂
JackGeezy85 It was carrots
Lol ok my bad
JackGeezy85 huh? 🥕? Fill me in pls..
If my man proposed to me in public .. I'd be pissed af. I hate that pressure and I'd hate all eyes and cameras on me.
But I will say yes even if it's a no.. than walk away with him like....
"are you dumbbbb? *remy ma voice*"
Cray May me too
Exactly. Can't embarrase both him and you in front of everyone så say yes and talk later lol.
Cray May LOL REMY MA VOICE: Are yew DUHM
ARE YOU DUMB - remy ma
Cray May yall making me hear that beat and er thang - r u Duhmb
I don't think you "really really know" the man you marry until you marry them. That's why you hear about people being together for 15 years, married for 1, and then divorced.
Beinglively You have to know yourself and what you want. What you can live with, what you can't live with.
Prisma Gonzalez You have have to know yourself
Agree! Divorce used to be a LAST resort for many. Now so many people are like "Oh well, it didn't work out. Everybody gets divorced anyway." I agree. It's more about people not taking time to work on the relationship.
Beinglively hmm that's true. Divorce shouldn't be an option. Take it out of the equation and keep God in the centre #goals. I saw a quote that said "Never once in all my years being married have I considered divorce, murder yes, but never divorce" lol
yessss exactly there is no rule to be honest!! people give u a lot of advices! Like marry someone ur happy with then u chose someone but he might not treat u how u wanted to be treated!!!
I'm sorry but I'm not gonna date you for 4, 5, 6, 7 years! all that time and you old after and then oh he's not the one. You ain't gonna eat up all my youthful years. 😒
LMAO! Ain't that the truth.
Britzz Bae Exactly! What a waste of time, I think the most I would do is 2 years, maybe 3 years but I think that's pushing it, 1.5 years would be ideal for me. The honeymoon stage doesn't last for 2 years so that should be more than enough time.
Britzz Bae 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Gossiptgirl I think 1-2 years is enough time to date someone enough to know them. I don't have time to waste.
Alexandra Griffiths Same, it's definitely enough time to decide if I want to marry them or not/see a future with them
Yeah I totally feel you adrienne. Sometimes we agree to things becos we feel like it has to go there, those years invested had to be "rewarded". She was in her right to think being engaged would change their dynamic. She was the bravest to come out 6months later saying " it's not happening you guys"
It doesn't have to be over but it sure as will be awkward as hell........
Lol yes
awkward is putting it lightly...he could resent the hell out of you and you could just be like yuck I said no a d you're still here...if I say no, I'm out
lmaooo RIGHT
Lol
I appreciate Adrienne for opening up. Its so easy to succumb to societal pressures. We have all fallen in that trap in one way or the other, so for Adrienne to get out of the engagement must have required ALOT of strength. Young women like myself can learn a thing or two from her
SpokenByCynthia Right. I appreciate her going there with us. that took bravery and sincerity.
6 years is a long time to invest in someone. That's a gamble waiting that long. Because if the relationship doesn't work out then your 6 years older and you can't get that time back!
Ms. Beautiful But when it comes down to spending your time with someone that you love, there's no counting. Whether or not that relationship results in a marriage, those two individuals still got to enjoy and learn from each other. Sounds corny but there's no countdown. If you really believe that you are going to spend the rest of your life with someone then there's no risk in waiting 5-6 years before legally binding yourselves together.
Ms. Beautiful I agree, there's no guarantee that you'll get married and end up together so I would never date anyone for that length of time. I think it's a big waste of time especially for women who want children.
Ms. Beautiful but if you're going to marry someone you should be sure. So if they wait six years and then get married at least they know for sure they want to marry this person instead of doing two years and then getting married and going trough a divorce
Adrienne and women like her don't like to admit the real reason they stay in a purposeless relationship so long is because of the sex or that they just need somebody to be with and hate being alone. Or combo of both. Case in point - J.Lo.
Nwver staying in a relationship that long...its a waste of time lol ive knew of couple who were together 5 + years and never got married yet when they broke up the man or woman married someone quickly after lmaoo
Oh wow Adrienne got real. It was pretty sad hearing that she knew the relationship wasn't gonna work when she moved across the country. She seemed so excited when she announced the engagement on the show but I guess it hadn't settled in yet and she was just happy to be engaged.
Adrienne was engaged for months before she announced it
Tamera to the Audience Member:"You CONTRADICTED Yourself"! Calm down Tamera, Lol!
Ms. Beautiful listen first Tamera!
What's wrong with Tamera these days?
Lol I was kind of daydreaming and was thinking the same as Tamera. Oops my bad!
@Ms Beautiful she was all in her feelings lol..😂
Ms. Beautiful she had them neck veins popping already geeeezz
This was a very deep and heart felt conversation. Good job ladies 👏👏👏
Congratulation to Naturi Naughton who is expecting her first child. I am happy for her & a big fan. We rejoice in your happiness girl. God bless!!!
Rah W Why are you saying it here dumbass
Rah W Why are you saying it here dumbass
@promprom
Rude much? Damn, no need to start calling people names.
??? WHO?
If a guy made it all the way through buying a ring and proposing without knowing that she'd say no, there's a problem. Either he jumped the gun, or she hid something. It's not a dealbreaker, but its also not a good sign.
Don't couples talk about marriage before proposing?
Problem is, some people jump the gun and assume their partner wants it without discussing it first. Which is ridiculous, but definitely happens.
lexi219 wow. Can't believe some people do that
Exactly
LadyChaos101 Some don’t since that’s why the woman says no. It should be talked about first though. You should talk about it first and know that your partner is going to say yes.
My fiance and I just got engaged after being together for 6 1/2 years but we're teenagers when we started dating so I think it's understandable and reasonable why we've waited this long lol. We are now 23 and 25 years old :) Getting married next year June 2018!
Shannon Hayden Congratulations!!!
Pretty Gorgeous Thanks hun!! :)
Shannon Hayden I hope you have a beautiful wedding and blessed marriage!
Hey how is married life now?
Adrienne and Tamera are very thoughtful communicators.
I don't think a relationship is over after a failed proposal because either she's not ready or she feels that she needs to spend more time with him before she makes that big step to marriage.
MsBrooklyn11232 Definitely opens the door to major needed convo. But I don't think it should mean a breakup.
Loni under eye makeup is bothering me😕
Sandy P they didn't brush the setting powder off Kmt
Sandy P It's very noticeable. Lol. They Probably forgot to blend it in. Lmao.
did they use banana powder? maybe it's too light for her complexion.
Me too Sandy P. Her makeup artist did her wrong this time. Damn!
Maybe they should use Sasha buttercup under loni's eyes.
Knowing my crazy ass, any man that proposes to me.... I'm saying YASSS!
Ivy Meadows lol😂
Ivy Meadows Don't do it girl lol
Ivy Meadows 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha Right
Ivy Meadows wow....can I ask why that is? I've heard many women say that and I never understood why most women are so desperate to get married. I'm personally married and as happy as I am it was never something I felt I NEEDED to be happy. It just happened and I love it but I don't get why women think marriage is the ultimate goal/prize in life that will solve all their problems and bring them to paradise? Lol
Damn that audience was silent as a mouse when Adrienne was talking. They definitely was trying to catch that tea ☕️👀
I spent 7.5 year with a guy, married and divorced 6 months later ! All the reasons A & L mentioned hit so close to home
I was in a situation similar to Adrienne's, I started dating a guy I didn't like romantically out of pressure he applied to take our friendship to the next level. We dated for about a year and a half. I knew he wanted to marry me, but I wasn't in love with him. It was a very difficult thing for me to have to break up with him. I literally had to go to God for help w/how to do it. Thank God he gave me the words to say, and the strength I needed to have that very hard conversation with him. I broke up w/him before anymore time could pass and his feelings grow any stronger. I broke up with him and never regretted it.
Been there. I applaud you for being honest with him and true to yourself. You are beautiful inside and out! 😊
Loni's undereye powder looks like its still in the baking process. I don't understand how her makeup artist doesn't see this. Enjoyed the segment though
Bola Obafemi Her artist should use topaz ben nye powder or a translucent one, banana comes off too bright with the lights and on camera. I dont think he makes her highlight and contour natural enough for daytime television. Its comes off sometimes as too heavy like going to the club makeup.
And what the hell is on Jeannie's cheek?
hahaha
Where'd they find this deacon, pastor, reverend, judge to answer this question 😂 I liked his answer though
Lol he does look like he holds a distinguished position
i never want to be one of those women that says yes just cause he asks. but my aunt told me a proposal is exactly what the name entails, which means youre not locked into getting married. this is the time when both people really see if they want to get married to one another and to never feel guilty about calling it off. an engagement can always be back on, divorce is not free.
heymimi1990 exactly
My husband proposed 5 times before I accepted it. We got married 4 months later. He is my first everything and I am glad he is the man I chose to be with. I heard horror stories about men changing after marriage and after the get the cherry. Knowing what I know now I would have agreed the first time.
Ps. We were friends for 5 years and then dated for 2 years and now married for 2 years🥰 I love it!
I feel like a lot of ppl put pressure on couples to get married. Either one of the couple is pressuring the other person or family and friends. And then add on the idea that ppl aren't looking at what marriage really is about. they're just in the moment and want to experience the "wedding magic" That's why divorce has become so rampant. They do it for the wrong reasons. Ppl always say you should follow your heart but I think you have to follow your instincts more.
RIGHT! All heart and no brains is a problem!
Y v
We're on the same page!
I agree. They want the wedding but don't consider what the marriage is about or don't take the time to understand what they're getting into.
Adrienne has been thinking about Lenny lately Lol
Loni's concealer is brighter than the moonnnn and the starssss in the skyyyyyyy. 😩
canadianbeylover
LMBO.
Chill with the Ben Nye Banana power.... 👀
Ivy Meadows they need that Sacha Buttercup powder! Lol
Haha!! Somebody don't know nothing about using a setting spray to take down that powdery look either! smh
Ivy Meadows Loni need Ben Nye EBONY!
LMFAOO guel she let that bake sit for probably more than 20 minutes !!
I thought it was just me. I'm just like ...didn't anybody remove some of that once they realized how it was looking?
Jeannie's comment wins the day! Couples need to discuss marriage prior to a proposal. Personally, I think a man shouldn't ask unless he knows she will say yes.
Lonis under eye make up looks terrible from a distance. Her make up artist is doing her dirty.
Fats no it don't 😕😕😡😡
Page Johnson Look again when the camera pans out. It looks like the MUA baked her face but didn't brush off the excess powder.
Fats exactly
Fats they were probably in a rush and forgot lmao
man I thought I was alone. dang that's too bad
I said yes to an engagement that I should've said no too. It ended because I knew in my heart it wasn't what God wanted for me, it was what I wanted for me and I truly believe that Gods timing is perfect timing. We were able to remain friends because we communicated openly and honestly and Respected each other's truth.
Tamera's question to Adrienne was a really awkward (and low key shady) question to ask on the air. That's why Loni made that face.
Adrienne set herself up by asking if anyone's ever regretted saying yes.
Lola Love Adrienne didn't bring up the specific question Tamera asked her. The Real doesn't mean that they're obligated to disclose EVERY detail of their lives, especially a breakup after a 6-year relationship. That was probably a little painful and personal for Adrienne to talk about, not to mention it might have been personal for Lenny. When one of the co-hosts started laughing, Adrienne got serious and said, "actually, that's not funny." Also, in case you didn't notice, after Tamera realized she put Adrienne on the spot, she backpedaled and asked if it was ok for her to ask that.
Sometimes I like Tamera's advice, but sometimes she gives off this holier-than-thou attitude and acts like some type of relationship guru, just because she's been happily married for 5 WHOLE years. And, yes, I do think she was being shady with that question, pressuring Adrienne to admit that she knew the relationship was over before accepting the proposal. Tamera was probably secretly judging Adrienne and Lenny's relationship the whole time and thinks that because they're over, it's ok to admit it.
peanutjelly Adrienne brought it up and I don’t think Tamera was trying to be shady I think she was asking Adrienne what she felt the proposal and when she knew it wasn’t gonna work that’s a genuine question to ask someone and tbh if Adrienne didn’t want to talk about the topic of that relationship then she shouldn’t have brought it up
I love how Adrienne is very supportive and fair towards men feelings too
Can i just say I'm really appreciating these 7 minute part 1 part 2 clips 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Are we just not gonna talk about that guy in the clown suit who proposed on the real and his girl didn't look happy until she saw the ring???😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sometimes, I think about it and I just stop and shake my head
Izy girl I'll never forget that episode!
Izy Lol I need an update.
Ok, why is Loni's banana powder still baking? They wrong for that! Lol
Looking back now and seeing the old episodes and how much they brought up marriage and getting engaged to Adrienne, I could see her feeling like she has to say yes.
It's a difference between "no" and "not yet" . I agree with Loni: it depends on how she says no. Also agree with the husband in the audience. Thanks Adrienne for clearing that up. Truly appreciate Adrienne's sincerity and transparency here.
First off, before a guy could even think to ask a girl "the question" he would have to know that she's on the same page. This is why communication is so important. He would know when is a good time to ask as to guarantee himself a yes.
So i say no.
Esha Augustine Great point.
Ooh this is actually a good segment, hopefully they keep this up!
I know exactly what Adrienne was talking about. Glad I called the engagement off before it was too late, even though some family members weren't happy. I knew it wasn't going to work but I definitely felt both pressured and deserving of that ring and I believe I will get it one day from the right person.
I agree with Adrienne. Plus if you’re in a relationship for a year or more, conversations about marriage should have been had. If they say No and give a reason, I feel it is hard to keep the relationship going.
But it depends on the context of the relationship.
I have to be honest: the panel is more professional looking now! Everyone meshes really well
I literally cried watching this. Adrienne situation is my real life right now. 💔
I remember Jeannie said she said yes to the public proposal and then went back and said, "Freddie, we need to talk. I'm not quite ready"
That pause though lol
I don't think it's over. Sometimes ppl propose thinking it would be a quick fix but the woman (who was proposed to) may be like "nah, we gotta fix our relationship before we get married". Sometimes the proposing may be in the moment and the gf is like um, no this is too rushed. It's better to say no than to say yes, get married, then end up getting divorced.
Y v Well, actually, sort of like in my case, if he proposes and she wants to work on having a future together in the hopes of marriage at the end, but she's not ready to start planning a wedding and setting a date, because she feels that she's not there, YET, then say, Yes (claim her future husband, while letting others know that she is completely unavailable), but just ask for time (an extended engagement) to get on the exact same page, as him or a better look and feel about herself, as a woman, and then set a date; otherwise, say No, knowing that the relationship is over.
I said, "the relationship is over," because her saying No means that she's not on his future-maturity and mindset, and since women mature quicker than men, she'll never be on his same page, always wanting something else or going in a different direction.
That man touched my heart! Ugh! Such a gentleman!👏👏👏
thanks adrienne. i haven't heard her speak on it as much. thought it was a sensitive subject and tbh I'm about to get my relationship tested in the same way.
I love this segment. Esp with Adrienne opening up and being honest ❤
I love Tamara's look! Seriously I love her w/ her natural hair 💖
loving Adrianne's look lately! hair and makeup on fleek babygirl
I was proposed to, I didn't say no but I asked him to slow down a little, which at that point was a no. We broke up a month later. I just felt like I was too young. Don't regret it one bit.
Tamera just needs to be quiet and listen to what that man is talking about instead of asking all those questions lol.
Sara Nuo stop 😭😭😭😭
Sara Nuo an address book
Soo Adrienne knew she didn't wanna marry Lenny but she accepted the proposal anyway 🙄 soo she wasted his time.. that's why it didn't work out because they weren't for each other.
Tracia Boston I think she's saying she said yes for the wrong reasons and knew deep down it wasn't right but didn't say no it happens
#MakeupByBrit I also think that she was pressured by her family. I mean everyone is different but if it were me and I wasn't sure about it, I wouldn't accept..
Tracia Boston right if I don't wanna do it I'm not doing it no lol
Tracia Boston So you mean to tell me Adrienne has already divorced the man that she just married?
So! at least she didn't marry larry then immediately divorce him ! Now that would be wasting his time and more money 🙄
Maybe it's just because I'm young but I don't think there is any rush to get married. You don't need to be married to continue to love each other, there should not be a time limit.
Danni Kris You're absolutely right. marriage looks glamorous. No one tells you what it takes to paint the picture.
So Tamera didn't understand ''the black book'' expression and the otherr did? And no matter what people will say about Adrienne including myself, I have to admit that she has a very undestanding mind and she knows very well how to articulate someone else's thought. Tamera calm down. You need to learn whit who you have to be rude. Don't be rude to everybody only because you have much energy to spent.
I feel (if that was me) Tamara needs to apologize for telling that man "He's contradicting himself " after Adrienne explaining, that's where the apology needed to come in.. But that's just my 2 cents, my life ain't jack. lol. Carry on.
Ya, couples should discuss when they plan on getting married so there are no surprises. Truthfully, if I were a guy. I would leave with my bruised ego after that one. Lol
I think it depends on the reason why the proposal was rejected. If it was just because the time/timing wasn't right, then I believe a relationship can survive it. The love for your partner might be there, you just might not be personally ready to make that commitment which is understandable. But if it was rejected because the person isn't right (e.g. Adrienne and Lenny) and you don't feel for your partner what your partner feels for you, then it's probably best to just go your separate ways and not waste each other's time.
Was....Loni's make up...off? Am I just seeing things? Lol
keimonte14 It's sooooo off. She aint even pay the light bill.
I just can't get over Tamera's bun😍it's so cute
Well dressed man with well spoken words...but seriously I love how he wore a suit to the real haha
I'm only 19 but when I have a boyfriend later on I will tell him to propose privately like with no family and no strangers/public because I don't want to embarass him and I will feel pressured to say yes
I love this show and have been watching from day 1! and yes Age is right every one kept asking "oh when you gonna get marry blah blah " ditto I felt like that was a force engagement bc of it being a national tv show and it being brought up all the time, she did the right thing she followed her heart and married the man of HER dreams not what the media or the outside world wanted!!! and you can see the happiness written all over her face when she speaks about her husband!!! and you can see it in the opening when they are coming out to their seats, she looks to the side and gives her man the sexy eye and gives him a little dance!!! get it Adrienne God bless your union with your husband 💜⚘
I really love how mature Adrienne has become :) wish she was my sister ha
my dad proposed to my mom and she said no. she said yes the second time around though.
Ahhh. 6:49. Tension bomb. It seems like adrienne started the topic of calling off engagements in 3rd person to take the pressure off of her being asked about when she did it and when Tamara asked her personally, "how did YOU feel" adrienne was just about ready to smack a bitch for a millisecond.🙉🐸🍵🍻 and Tamara tried to save herself by saying "do you wanna answer that question". 😂 awkward.
Cassie Casimir right????? i felt tamar in tamera for a sec lololl
Why is it ok for a girl to say "No, not now or not ready" but if the man takes awhile to propose than immediately he's known to not want to compromise and he's kicked to the curb.... double standards?
I agree with Tam. 1-2 years is NOT long enough to be thinking about marriage. You can't REALLY know each other in that amount of time.
Lauren A WRONG.
Lauren A Actually you can but the thing I agree with is infauation wears off and so do the rose colored glasses so now you gotta figure out how to really make it with this person.
Summer Lyric exactly, so you then see that person in a different light. A light you've never seen before once those "rose colored glasses" wear off. This still proves that you need MORE TIME to get to know them beyond the infatuation stage in order to TRULY know who they are. A lot of people are blinded by this stage and rush into a marriage that's not for them.
Lauren A To quote Adrienne. .Absolutely!
Honestly I always knew Adrienne wasent fully sure of her engagement you can sense things and that you could tell from miles away.
Not necessarily... I think you can still date and still be together and if the woman says yes after thinking about it and not be pressured into saying yes just because... and she doesn't really want to then it's wasting her and his time !
Adrienne you explain that very well, he was not contradicting himself, he was
Saying just what Adrienne had explain, thank you Adrienne for your thoughts!!!
Love is not just enough to know if you want to spend the rest of your life with someone. There is more to it ....
I have been there I felt the same way that Adrienne Explained, I felt as if I had put so much time and effort into the relationship and I deserved to say yes, and it was the wrong thing to do
I can imagine it actually being a really hard thing standing there in that moment when someone you care about is on there knee exposing there heart and asking you to give your future to them and having to say no. If your absolutely sure you don't have a future together it might be easier but what if you love them but don't know if it is a forever commitment?
What's bothering me is jeannies contour on her jawline just sitting there like 😂💀🙄
Thesewer88 dude for real, it's been like the 5th time that's happened
Thesewer88 She burnt herself with a hot iron. It's not contour.
I love how Loni's make up artist does her make-up but he over did the concealer this time
Just because I might say no, doesn't mean I have to leave or he has to leave. If I say yes, that doesn't mean I have to get married pronto. I would say yes but stay engaged for a while just to see what direction things start going. And determine whether or not I want to get married to that person from there. It's very simple. But as always people have to complicate life by doing and putting extra stuff on everything, instead of just living.
If a man proposes and the woman says no, they aren't on the same page. Usually couples have the conversation when they feel like they're getting to that point. So I think the relationship is over or serious communication needs to happen because something isn't right
Sometimes you say yes because you feel indebted to them
DANG THAT OG FROM THE AUDIENCE SOUNDING LIKE MARVIN WINANS WITH THE SMOOTH RESPONSES! 😩👍🏾
Girl talk has been getting deep and I love it because I connect better to the topic. Thanks ladies for sharing.
I agree with Adrienne. it's over if she says no because it takes a lot.
thanks Adrian for being honest. One of my new years resolutions this year was to listen to my gut. if my gut saids it aint right he got to go!!!
sometimes they really ask too soon and you're just not ready yet.
One time my ex and I went shopping for ear rings for me. Turns out he wanted to see wedding rings and had my finger sized. When we went to the counter he asked if I wanted to get married within the same week. I looked at him and said NO! Why? I'm not financially stable, don't have my own place and have my own car. I rather get financially ready then get married. The funny thing is that the employee heard my answer and wanted to see if my ex would walk away. I'm glad that we didn't do it.
I'm not going to lie I kinda find it funny to watch failed public proposals on youtube. hehehe
I get such second hand embarrassment lol.
Yup! I said "NO" several times and then gave in and said "YES" because I thought he was going to be a father to my son. Didn't even say Yes for love or convenience in NO way!! Stayed married and miserable for eight years, then divorced and then he died a month after the divorce. At this point I don't even want to EVER be married again!! That's just how I feel @ the moment!!
In my opinion, out of respect for her now husband, I think she should stop having these deeply and long explanations of her past engagement. She would not like it at all if Israel kept talking about his engagement and marriage to his ex wife
I applaudddd Adrienne so so much for sharing and expressing herself , as she did NOT have to do the way so many of you all have been so mean and derogatory towards her. This young woman has been through so much and being in the public eye doesn't make it any easier especially at the time when she was with Lenny.
Now a days people just get married for the hell of it