It took me a week to realize that MaXXXine is TOTALLY a giallo film. Police investigation, insane visuals and a killer wearing a trench coat, hat and leather gloves.
Another quick lil easter egg at the beginning, when Maxine takes a bump from the giant bowl of coke, the bowl is shaped like a goose! like the one pearl skewered at the beginning of her movie!
James and Chelsea had me rolling when she said she hadn’t seen “Green Door” then James and his reaction to a possible guy uhm ‘exploding” for 7 minutes straight was HILARIOUS. Thanks for keeping me company at work.
In my opinion, Godfather Part III is mid at absolute best. There are great things in it, but then there's helicopter attacks and Pope subplots and whatever the hell Sofia Coppola was doing.
I personally think X was the weakest of the 3 (But I absolutely love anything 80s, so I went in with a soft spot for MaXXXine) Regardless, all 3 are great movies, so I can't fully disagree with any ranking!
Yeah that was the major twist in X setting up maxxxine lol. Thats why they zoomed in on the tv in the begging and end of the movie and showed maxxxines face....
1:10:10 also, Detective Torres (Bobby Cannavale) explicitly states, "you Hollywood girls, you're so desperate to become famous, you don't even realize how easy to become infamous." I think that's the thesis of this movie, but also holding a mirror to our current audiences. agreeing this idea of divine intervention is kind of 'god in the machine' or Deus ex machina of story writing.
My uncle was one of the citizens that beat the shit out of the night stalker. He was caught trying to steal a car from one of the older neighbors right by my family's old home! My mom said it was so scary to think that the killer was 3 houses down the alley to their home. It was a day that she would never forget, and gave her more of a reason to look up to her big brother. 🖤❤️
Maxxxine was very underwhelming for me and compared to Pearl and X I thought it was a much more mediocre movie, the final act was just... not good. With that said, I am so excited to hear both of your thoughts about it, and listening to you talk about it will raise my enjoyment a lot, much love to you both
Watching this video and the discussion of “Behind the Green Door” - made me wonder if the implication is that if the murders hadn’t happened in “X,” then maybe “Farmer’s Daughters” could have been the breakthrough interracial adult film that BrGD ended up becoming.
37:21 the terrified look on James’ face made me rewatch this part at least a dozen times over(not exaggerating). I could only imagine the things going through his mind like: how? Is this the where the bar is set? What do you do with all that?
I think my main problem with the film was that they spent so much time focusing on who the killer was while also not really focusing on who the killer was. Even though we practically knew who it was because it was set up in X. It just felt really messy
Maxxxine is by far my favorite of the three and just one of my favorite movies ever. Maxxxines struggle to be taken seriously as an actor because of her work in porn is something I've seen first hand and that in the movie really hit home. Also using prisoner of your eyes by Judas priest was such an amazing music drop and genuinely brought me to tears
Maxxxine was easily my favorite of the trilogy because of the sleezy 80s-ness. Loved the satanic panic stuff, the prominent use of the backlot, the Giallo influence. It felt like Ti homaging everything from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood to Lethal Weapon and really worked for me. Such a fun movie.
I really wish that they didn’t market the Night Stalker stuff in the way that they did because the way the media has romanticised that man makes me so angry and I thought this movie did the same thing - I’m glad they didn’t
Lily Collins is PHIL Collins' daughter. If she doesn't *naturally* have a British accent, she has at least spent her entire life around at least *one* lol
Phil Collins is from London tho when her character is from Yorkshire it’s similar to someone supposedly from Brooklyn having a Texan accent, I liked it tho
It’s really fun to go watch Do The Right Thing and see a young Giancarlo Esposito well before he got typecast as a very stoic authority figure, he is playing a young and energetic street kid. It’s really funny.
He's also in Bob Roberts, where he plays this idealistic left-wing journalist who gets falsely accused of attempting to assassinate the right-wing Bob Roberts. He's also the guy who gets electrocuted by a video game in Maximum Overdrive.
Totally random fact: I was born & raised in the same city as The Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez. Since his death, people have tried to say that his spirit haunts a local cemetary he apparently use to sleep at when he was a kid. I personally think it's bs, but there's all kinds of weirdos who break into the cemetary & try to do rituals & grave robbing. I remember thinking "It's not the dead I'm afraid of, it's the living."
As a small town country girl, X will always hit different❤️ the amount of people at maxxxine opening weekend was a pleasant surprise, as was the theater full of country beaus screaming at the ball crush
Me and my girlfriend watched X and Pearl before seeing Maxxxine in theaters. It made this universe feel so fleshed out with the small references to past two movies.
Story time: After college I worked at an adult store at night to do internships during the day. The store had a theater area where patrons would pay to watch the performer of the evening perform a show. They would be on one side of a window that looked in on a room (closet) with the performer. I don't remember if it was a 2-way mirror or just a window. It wasn't a quarter and the customer usually negotiated with the performer on what they wanted to see them do. I remember they usually had a sandwich board with a menu and prices of what they would do in the room. Dunno if that helps with the concept or not
What I think is so cool about Maxxxine is that the only onscreen violence you see is against men. Which is such a flip from what 80s horror movies were like. Also women were all in positions of power, the female cop, the director, a female special effects artist, and of course Maxine herself. I'm not usually one for "woman power" films, but this was how they should be done.
Except Maxine gets suffocated by her dad. And we see 3 women afraid, tied up and threatened, and 3 women's dead bodies that were murdered, oh and the woman cop was badly injured and possibly died. I mean I do see what you mean, but eh...
When Mia was getting the aged Pearl makeup done for X, she used that experience to get more into character and feel trapped in her situation. I believe the head casting scene was a callback to that. Maybe not though! Maybe it’s just a claustrophobia thing.
It's always a toss up whether I watch the movie discussed on the podcast before or after. I loved the second film, mostly because I'm attracted to the extravagance of the psychotic. We as viewers are allowed to get lost in the dream. I can't wait to watch Maxxxine. Another killer podcast!
I definitely like Chelsea’s interpretation of the ending. I want to add that Maxine, despite likely only going after her father for the fame it would bring her, is the last person holding the moment of silence in the end, indicating she’s probably praying. And in the dream interview, she thanks god for everything she has, indicating she may have reconciled her faith to some degree. That or she’s using it to play into her new starlet persona.
I know y’all are a little more lukewarm about Maxxxine, but this podcast just made me love the movie even more. Also, the ending can be read as the dark side of true crime, but it can also be read as nepotism. Her dad said he’s making a movie and she’s the star. The other victims were killed as punishment, but He gave his daughter a choice, she could still be saved. She has a chance to be a star because of all the work that her dad did and in contrast she doesn’t even do much except just be there and be his daughter. No one cared that she survived the Texas Porn Star Massacre, but everyone wants to know about the daughter of this killer.
The ball scene was awesome! If we had to sum up 2024 horror in 2 words, I’d say’”mangled balls”, due to this and Terrifier 3. Always brutal and fun to see.
Love this as always. What made me comment was when you mentioned Giancarlo Esposito getting to branch out, the first role I saw him in (which is also my favourite) was in the NYPD Blue episode Hollie & the blowfish, it was amazing - he was so different from what I've seen him do in his later roles.
I was a kill count fan for years but just recently (the last few weeks) have gotten to listen to ALL the old podcast episodes and it give me so much joy. Thank you two so much for your time and energy. Sending love and joy to y’all always. Keep up the hard work. 🥰 Ps. You both hotties ✨
I noticed a recurring thing where Maxine was really passive and lacked agency in what was happening to her. Several times throughout the film, a side character ends up monologuing while Maxine stands there silently. When someone tells her to do something, she does it with minimal thought. She's told to obey the director in order to get ahead in the industry and she tells the director that she will obey her. Instead of facing off against Kevin Bacon in the Psycho house, he gets caught by security. Instead of running Kevin Bacon over in the alley, he gets captured and killed by the agent and bouncer. The cops saved her from the cult instead of her saving herself, the cops mortally wounded her dad completely offscreen, and she just happened to be standing near him with a gun when the police helicopter shows up. I'm not quite sure what it means narratively or thematically, but it felt very deliberate.
Love that this just dropped in my podcasts right as I’m watching the movie. Delicious irony 😅 I’ll listen to the episode after I’ve finished the film so it’ll be fun to hear James and Chelsea discuss it
When Chelsea said she was playing the Nancy Drew games I got so excited! I've been playing them for such a long time and it's so fun to see someone else with similar niche interests! ❤
The exaggerated creaking of the killer's leather gloves is such a small but effective touch that, imo, really adds to the atmosphere of the movie. It would be right at home in a cheesy 80s horror/thriller like Cobra or Maniac Cop
One of my issues with Maxxxine is I listened to articles and social media posts that said it was going to be a full blown WhoDunnit Slasher, so I was fully expecting a Scream type movie. I was expecting more tension and definitely was wanting more chase scenes. But that’s on me for listening to random people on social media and not looking more into what the creative team said about the movie beforehand.
Went to this with my dad and stepmom(to be fair, my dad was the one who recommended I watch X. He hasn’t seen Pearl yet. It was the same weekend we saw the Book of Mormon when I watched Pearl and X together so we’re chill). My poor stepmom went in with only a trailer of knowledge. That was an awkward movie going experience.
this is a great trilogy… but i’d love to see a maxxxine sequel about old maxine and have it really tie in her own regrets and fears, showing how much she really is like pearl
@@charlottehubert4169 i agree, but i do like how chelsea mentioned her being kind of a washed out joan crawford type, and could absolutely see a twist of fate where she ends up like 70s pearl. it’s just a head cannon i personally wish would be made, but as i said, i think it’s a great trilogy and am/would be happy with it staying a trilogy:)
I never really comment but I just want to say (love Dead Meat and the pod and everything yall do tysm for being who you are and doing what you do) I love one part of the ending so much, considering how much shit it gets, is the fact it ends with the cast of maxine’s head. obviously it mirrors the credits of pearl, but it also shows that maxine has progressed past her trauma of X (i.e. obviously the headcast/panic attack scene) plus the twisted entendre of the imagery mirroring pearl’s credits scene and yet maxine ‘never wants it to end’. she not only endured the pain of a headcast (which i’m sure any actor will tell you it’s fucking horrible to endure) but she has formed it into purely her reason for fame. it ties the 80s post-serial killer/satanic panic hysteria into a much more contemporary commentary of true crime. i’m sure there’s way more to say but it’s just one image stuck in my brain and i’ve just finished the movie.
I think the whole ending of the movie is purposefully as whacky and kinda tone breaking as it is. I mean the whole sequence ends with her saying "you gave me exactly what I needed: divine intervention" it's about how the only thing really giving you fame is luck. It doesn't really matter how much you actually work or try
Great episode. Didn't love or resonate with Maxxxine the same way I did with X and Pearl, and giallo just isn't my favorite genre, but I can always count on Ti West to go above and beyond. So I respect the hell out of it.
LOVE that yall have seen daniel isn’t real, it’s underrated. id definitely recommend yellowjackets, it’s not categorized as horror but. its fuckin horror
Was not expecting this film to be a Giallo. I went to see it with my partner and he said he saw the moment when i realized I got so excited I shook his arm 😂 I prefer the first two movies by far, but I love the campiness of Gialo films and it suited the content of this film. I feel like if they took it more seriously the reveal and everything just wouldn’t have been as effective? A plot as obvious as this needs a certain level of humor alongside the darkness. Also the day before I watched this movie I went to universal and stood in the except line Mia Goth ran through I was so happy.
I am fairly certain you had to continually put in change to keep the window open. When the change "ran out" a blind would cover the window the performer was seen through. It's like a sexy pay phone lol
I was trying to think of what felt off about Maxxxine and you guys explained it perfectly! The characters weren’t not fleshed out at all. Even Maxine felt like a raw shell of who she was in X. I definitely was expecting more chase scenes and more tension, but it definitely felt like the characters were just there to be killed off.
Whenever I think of "Pirates" I remember that my partner watched the edited version on TV as a teenager awaiting the porn--all the porn had been cut out, though, so he just watched a really bad Pirates of the Caribbean rip-off 😂 poor man
Maxine’s dad being revealed as the killer was so funny to me cause I literally never suspected that it could’ve been him even though I couldn’t reason in my head anyone else it could be, and I’ve never felt dumber in my life 😅
I was a child actor and I never had an audition on a soundstage. They were almost always in a production office somewhere. There was only a couple times that I can remember where the location stood out as unique. Like I had one on tbe WB backlot in burbank but that was still in an office. Another time was at the chateau marmont by the pool which was very distracting. And another was at Universal citywalk, because there's actually offices above all the stores.
I watched this in theaters and then came home and watch Jennifer’s Body and when I tell you that combination made me feel like I could kill god I’m not even kidding lmao
Empire Strikes Back is seen as the cinematic masterpiece. A New Hope has the most cultural nostalgia. But the Star Wars OT wouldnt exist without the satisfying, if not slightly dull ending on Return Of The Jedi. Maxxxine is The Return Of The Jedi here. It ensures the trilogy works and is thoroughly entertaining, even when the ending feels a little predictable and straightforward. Overall a fun movie and one of the best horror trilogies of all time.
My only thing with maxxxine is that i feel like I (and anyone who saw "X") already knew where this plot was going from the start and i think Ti West has been so good at being subversive with X and pearl that you expect this movie to really go to new places. Buuut.. Once you finally reach the ending portion the satanic panic was played so straight and for me i was kinda like ok if we werent gonna go anywhere with *this* i wouldve spent that time fleshing out the people that surround maxines life that were supposed to care abt
I'm SO glad the lawsuit got mentioned and I hope we get more details on that soon. The lawsuit seems weird but it's not something I want to overlook and I hope Mia Goth didn't do it but I don't want to just ignore this if there is a hint of truth to it. I'm so glad that that got mentioned and you guys are making this podcast on it! I was so curious to hear more of your finer thoughts on how it's a solid film but it doesn't go up to par with the other two films!
The Lily Collins accent is so funny to me because the accent she’s doing couldn’t be any farther from the accent her character claims to have (council estate North Yorkshire) and I honestly still can’t tell if it’s satire or not.
My favorite thing about this movie is the scene when Elizabeth tells Maxine to “squash” whatever is getting in the way of her being on time to work and literally squashing Kevin bacon
I think that Maxxxine killing people who are already dying is a way of making sure your protagonist is not viewed as villainous. I am also old; I was a newly minted adult in the 80s and I went to those adult booths with the performers on the other side of the glass. They could see and hear you, and it really was only a quarter or up to a dollar; and the way they made money was by having the show times be only a few minutes, thereby inducing you to pay over and over. Now I want to see you guys do a podcast on the Darren Mc Gavin tv movie “The Night Stalker”.
Peep Shows were a big thing in the 70s-90s. You'd pay a quarter for a small amount of time, like maybe a minute, and multiple people would be doing it at once for the same performer, so the money added up.
Aah!! I nearly screamed when Chelsea said she’s playing the Nancy Drew games! I have played those since I was like 12 and nobody talks about them! They’re so fun!!
Apple podcast listener dropping by TH-cam just to say I’d love to hear a podcast episode on Angel. I absolutely adore that movie and want more people to check it out.
I was so glad Giancarlo wasn’t the villain and was instead just a really supportive guy.
Maxxine's dad went up in flames at one point just like Pearl's mom did.
Oooo nice catch!!!!
It took me a week to realize that MaXXXine is TOTALLY a giallo film. Police investigation, insane visuals and a killer wearing a trench coat, hat and leather gloves.
Ehhh I’m not sure if I would consider this a Giallo film. I guess it would be a good debate!
I def got this vibe when I saw it too. Specifically the junkyard car crushing scene.
As soon as those black leather gloves came in and I didn't see the person, giallo immediately lmao
Dont forget the steady killer POV takes. You can debate whether or not it's totally a Giallo but it is for sure inspired by it.
I realised during the trailer when I saw the black gloves, red lights which I didn't what to see but it was at the cinema.
Another quick lil easter egg at the beginning, when Maxine takes a bump from the giant bowl of coke, the bowl is shaped like a goose! like the one pearl skewered at the beginning of her movie!
Nice
James and Chelsea had me rolling when she said she hadn’t seen “Green Door” then James and his reaction to a possible guy uhm ‘exploding” for 7 minutes straight was HILARIOUS. Thanks for keeping me company at work.
@@treymcd.5328 James’s reaction had me cackling.
I was dying from laughter 🤣🤣@TheLovelyLadybug
@@dabubz1496 He looked like a malfunctioning robot.
Maxxxine is like the Godfather 3 of the trilogy. It is really good but the thing is Pearl and X are masterpieces
Honestly, this trilogy tackles three very different genres: exploitation, character study, and giallo.
@@ericsilva-gomez2481 Yes, yes it is.
In my opinion, Godfather Part III is mid at absolute best. There are great things in it, but then there's helicopter attacks and Pope subplots and whatever the hell Sofia Coppola was doing.
@@coolnerdlll6053 The lucky coat that was apparently super glued to the wall is the first thing I think of when someone says Godfather 3
I personally think X was the weakest of the 3 (But I absolutely love anything 80s, so I went in with a soft spot for MaXXXine) Regardless, all 3 are great movies, so I can't fully disagree with any ranking!
Fun fact, the "satan stole my daughter" guy is Lorraine from X's dad. You can see her face on the t-shirt he is wearing
Yeah that was the major twist in X setting up maxxxine lol. Thats why they zoomed in on the tv in the begging and end of the movie and showed maxxxines face....
*Maxines dad. He was the evangelist shown in X. It was maxines picture shown at the end of the movie on the tv lol
@@awesumtoast97buddy we’re talking about someone else
Oooo I didn't notice
my friend noticed that when we were watching!! I love all of the little details they add in
Of all the things I was expecting from Maxxxine, literal ball crushing wasn't one of them...🤯
But it was fun tho
I believe the official medical term is “de-scroted”
@@liviayoung7578 Not if you're a male, seeing it in a theater not expecting it, with your friend right next to you.
@@LeutinantWhoareyouI’m a man and that was awesome! It was indeed fun.
1:10:10 also, Detective Torres (Bobby Cannavale) explicitly states, "you Hollywood girls, you're so desperate to become famous, you don't even realize how easy to become infamous." I think that's the thesis of this movie, but also holding a mirror to our current audiences. agreeing this idea of divine intervention is kind of 'god in the machine' or Deus ex machina of story writing.
If a character says the guilt would "crush them to bits", you simply must see that character crushed before the movie ends
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My uncle was one of the citizens that beat the shit out of the night stalker. He was caught trying to steal a car from one of the older neighbors right by my family's old home! My mom said it was so scary to think that the killer was 3 houses down the alley to their home. It was a day that she would never forget, and gave her more of a reason to look up to her big brother. 🖤❤️
Imagining Kevin Bacon getting kicked off the Universal Lot for not having a visitor pass absolutely killed me 😂
Maxxxine was very underwhelming for me and compared to Pearl and X I thought it was a much more mediocre movie, the final act was just... not good. With that said, I am so excited to hear both of your thoughts about it, and listening to you talk about it will raise my enjoyment a lot, much love to you both
Watching this video and the discussion of “Behind the Green Door” - made me wonder if the implication is that if the murders hadn’t happened in “X,” then maybe “Farmer’s Daughters” could have been the breakthrough interracial adult film that BrGD ended up becoming.
fun fact: those theater shows are run like any carnival ride, you get aproximatly a minute per quarter and then the curtain falls again
37:21 the terrified look on James’ face made me rewatch this part at least a dozen times over(not exaggerating). I could only imagine the things going through his mind like: how? Is this the where the bar is set? What do you do with all that?
I think my main problem with the film was that they spent so much time focusing on who the killer was while also not really focusing on who the killer was. Even though we practically knew who it was because it was set up in X. It just felt really messy
His acting didnt really make up for it either 😂
I thought it was a stalker like a big guy obsessed and possessive it wasn't till the killer ripped the cross earing I was oh I know who it is
Maxxxine is by far my favorite of the three and just one of my favorite movies ever. Maxxxines struggle to be taken seriously as an actor because of her work in porn is something I've seen first hand and that in the movie really hit home. Also using prisoner of your eyes by Judas priest was such an amazing music drop and genuinely brought me to tears
Molly is my favourite podcast guest 🥹 she’s so precious.
Maxxxine was easily my favorite of the trilogy because of the sleezy 80s-ness. Loved the satanic panic stuff, the prominent use of the backlot, the Giallo influence. It felt like Ti homaging everything from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood to Lethal Weapon and really worked for me. Such a fun movie.
I really wish that they didn’t market the Night Stalker stuff in the way that they did because the way the media has romanticised that man makes me so angry and I thought this movie did the same thing - I’m glad they didn’t
“BOB AND CLAUDIA WOULD SAY WHAT TO YOU?” 🤣🤣🤣
That killed me 😭 he name dropped her parents fast af
Lily Collins is PHIL Collins' daughter.
If she doesn't *naturally* have a British accent, she has at least spent her entire life around at least *one* lol
Phil Collins is from London tho when her character is from Yorkshire it’s similar to someone supposedly from Brooklyn having a Texan accent, I liked it tho
It’s really fun to go watch Do The Right Thing and see a young Giancarlo Esposito well before he got typecast as a very stoic authority figure, he is playing a young and energetic street kid. It’s really funny.
FACTS!!!!!! PREACH!!
Do The Right Thing is such a brilliant movie. Unfortunately feels very relevant at the moment as someone from the UK :(
He's also in Bob Roberts, where he plays this idealistic left-wing journalist who gets falsely accused of attempting to assassinate the right-wing Bob Roberts. He's also the guy who gets electrocuted by a video game in Maximum Overdrive.
Had that whip lash experience last year
PLEASE do yourself a favor and watch his directorial debut This Is Your Death, it’s excellent.
sophie thatcher deserves an award for yellowjackets, they all do, i love her so much you guys would love the show
Totally random fact: I was born & raised in the same city as The Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez.
Since his death, people have tried to say that his spirit haunts a local cemetary he apparently use to sleep at when he was a kid. I personally think it's bs, but there's all kinds of weirdos who break into the cemetary & try to do rituals & grave robbing. I remember thinking "It's not the dead I'm afraid of, it's the living."
This movie is the third best in trilogy but this movie made me realize, like Scream, I love this movies universe. I don’t know why it’s just cozy
God that description and James’ reaction to Behind The Green Door had me in tears😂😭
Can confirm, film auditions do not take place on studio lots, they always happen in office spaces.
As a small town country girl, X will always hit different❤️ the amount of people at maxxxine opening weekend was a pleasant surprise, as was the theater full of country beaus screaming at the ball crush
Me and my girlfriend watched X and Pearl before seeing Maxxxine in theaters. It made this universe feel so fleshed out with the small references to past two movies.
37:19 James's face just sold the entire podcast. Holy shit 😂😅
Story time: After college I worked at an adult store at night to do internships during the day. The store had a theater area where patrons would pay to watch the performer of the evening perform a show. They would be on one side of a window that looked in on a room (closet) with the performer. I don't remember if it was a 2-way mirror or just a window.
It wasn't a quarter and the customer usually negotiated with the performer on what they wanted to see them do. I remember they usually had a sandwich board with a menu and prices of what they would do in the room.
Dunno if that helps with the concept or not
I had to pause, and then immediately smash the like button when "Pirates" was mentioned. I haven't thought about that movie in years
What I think is so cool about Maxxxine is that the only onscreen violence you see is against men. Which is such a flip from what 80s horror movies were like. Also women were all in positions of power, the female cop, the director, a female special effects artist, and of course Maxine herself. I'm not usually one for "woman power" films, but this was how they should be done.
Except Maxine gets suffocated by her dad. And we see 3 women afraid, tied up and threatened, and 3 women's dead bodies that were murdered, oh and the woman cop was badly injured and possibly died. I mean I do see what you mean, but eh...
When Mia was getting the aged Pearl makeup done for X, she used that experience to get more into character and feel trapped in her situation. I believe the head casting scene was a callback to that. Maybe not though! Maybe it’s just a claustrophobia thing.
"It bursts these balls" was something i was expecting James to say, but the way he says it 😂😅
It's always a toss up whether I watch the movie discussed on the podcast before or after. I loved the second film, mostly because I'm attracted to the extravagance of the psychotic. We as viewers are allowed to get lost in the dream. I can't wait to watch Maxxxine. Another killer podcast!
37:16 This is gonna be gold for the next Dead Meat Podcast out of context compilation 😂
OMG…James’s reaction to Chelsea telling him about…THE SCENE from Behind the Green Door made my day!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I definitely like Chelsea’s interpretation of the ending. I want to add that Maxine, despite likely only going after her father for the fame it would bring her, is the last person holding the moment of silence in the end, indicating she’s probably praying. And in the dream interview, she thanks god for everything she has, indicating she may have reconciled her faith to some degree. That or she’s using it to play into her new starlet persona.
I know y’all are a little more lukewarm about Maxxxine, but this podcast just made me love the movie even more.
Also, the ending can be read as the dark side of true crime, but it can also be read as nepotism. Her dad said he’s making a movie and she’s the star. The other victims were killed as punishment, but He gave his daughter a choice, she could still be saved. She has a chance to be a star because of all the work that her dad did and in contrast she doesn’t even do much except just be there and be his daughter. No one cared that she survived the Texas Porn Star Massacre, but everyone wants to know about the daughter of this killer.
Perfect day to start my Wednesday morning. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!!🌄☕️
It's a Wednesday afternoon here in Russia! I've just had lunch.
@@alexandrzarezin7765 Nice!!
The ball scene was awesome! If we had to sum up 2024 horror in 2 words, I’d say’”mangled balls”, due to this and Terrifier 3. Always brutal and fun to see.
Love this as always. What made me comment was when you mentioned Giancarlo Esposito getting to branch out, the first role I saw him in (which is also my favourite) was in the NYPD Blue episode Hollie & the blowfish, it was amazing - he was so different from what I've seen him do in his later roles.
I was a kill count fan for years but just recently (the last few weeks) have gotten to listen to ALL the old podcast episodes and it give me so much joy. Thank you two so much for your time and energy. Sending love and joy to y’all always. Keep up the hard work. 🥰
Ps. You both hotties ✨
I noticed a recurring thing where Maxine was really passive and lacked agency in what was happening to her. Several times throughout the film, a side character ends up monologuing while Maxine stands there silently. When someone tells her to do something, she does it with minimal thought. She's told to obey the director in order to get ahead in the industry and she tells the director that she will obey her. Instead of facing off against Kevin Bacon in the Psycho house, he gets caught by security. Instead of running Kevin Bacon over in the alley, he gets captured and killed by the agent and bouncer. The cops saved her from the cult instead of her saving herself, the cops mortally wounded her dad completely offscreen, and she just happened to be standing near him with a gun when the police helicopter shows up. I'm not quite sure what it means narratively or thematically, but it felt very deliberate.
Love that this just dropped in my podcasts right as I’m watching the movie. Delicious irony 😅 I’ll listen to the episode after I’ve finished the film so it’ll be fun to hear James and Chelsea discuss it
When Chelsea said she was playing the Nancy Drew games I got so excited! I've been playing them for such a long time and it's so fun to see someone else with similar niche interests! ❤
So happy you guys covered this. We were so excited to see it in theaters, but I felt like I missed some points. Thanks for the podcast!
around 51:00 I cant believe James didn't say Pyscho for them was about as distant to them as Psycho 98 is for us 🤣
The exaggerated creaking of the killer's leather gloves is such a small but effective touch that, imo, really adds to the atmosphere of the movie. It would be right at home in a cheesy 80s horror/thriller like Cobra or Maniac Cop
The pure bewilderment from James at 37:14
One of my issues with Maxxxine is I listened to articles and social media posts that said it was going to be a full blown WhoDunnit Slasher, so I was fully expecting a Scream type movie. I was expecting more tension and definitely was wanting more chase scenes. But that’s on me for listening to random people on social media and not looking more into what the creative team said about the movie beforehand.
i interpreted the green door as a reference to the wizard of oz connecting it to pearl but that works too 😅
Went to this with my dad and stepmom(to be fair, my dad was the one who recommended I watch X. He hasn’t seen Pearl yet. It was the same weekend we saw the Book of Mormon when I watched Pearl and X together so we’re chill). My poor stepmom went in with only a trailer of knowledge. That was an awkward movie going experience.
this is a great trilogy… but i’d love to see a maxxxine sequel about old maxine and have it really tie in her own regrets and fears, showing how much she really is like pearl
And have it set in modern day? That would be an awesome contrast to the trilogy each being in a previous decade.
I don't think a sequel to maxxxine is necessary but i agree it would be great
That is a waste. Stop talking
@@MrMarcJacksonI’m sorry you’re so unhappy
@@charlottehubert4169 i agree, but i do like how chelsea mentioned her being kind of a washed out joan crawford type, and could absolutely see a twist of fate where she ends up like 70s pearl. it’s just a head cannon i personally wish would be made, but as i said, i think it’s a great trilogy and am/would be happy with it staying a trilogy:)
Had to come watch the video version cause we love a completed podcast trilogy!!
I never really comment but I just want to say (love Dead Meat and the pod and everything yall do tysm for being who you are and doing what you do) I love one part of the ending so much, considering how much shit it gets, is the fact it ends with the cast of maxine’s head. obviously it mirrors the credits of pearl, but it also shows that maxine has progressed past her trauma of X (i.e. obviously the headcast/panic attack scene) plus the twisted entendre of the imagery mirroring pearl’s credits scene and yet maxine ‘never wants it to end’. she not only endured the pain of a headcast (which i’m sure any actor will tell you it’s fucking horrible to endure) but she has formed it into purely her reason for fame. it ties the 80s post-serial killer/satanic panic hysteria into a much more contemporary commentary of true crime. i’m sure there’s way more to say but it’s just one image stuck in my brain and i’ve just finished the movie.
i didn’t love the third act but maxxxine hands down is my favorite of the trilogy. seeing it with my best friend made it so much better too
I think the whole ending of the movie is purposefully as whacky and kinda tone breaking as it is. I mean the whole sequence ends with her saying "you gave me exactly what I needed: divine intervention" it's about how the only thing really giving you fame is luck. It doesn't really matter how much you actually work or try
Great episode. Didn't love or resonate with Maxxxine the same way I did with X and Pearl, and giallo just isn't my favorite genre, but I can always count on Ti West to go above and beyond. So I respect the hell out of it.
Another banger episode 😮💨
Thanks for the hard work guys!
LOVE that yall have seen daniel isn’t real, it’s underrated. id definitely recommend yellowjackets, it’s not categorized as horror but. its fuckin horror
Absolutely agree one of the highlights of this movie for me is someone letting Giancarlo play a character that isn’t just Gus
Was not expecting this film to be a Giallo. I went to see it with my partner and he said he saw the moment when i realized I got so excited I shook his arm 😂 I prefer the first two movies by far, but I love the campiness of Gialo films and it suited the content of this film. I feel like if they took it more seriously the reveal and everything just wouldn’t have been as effective? A plot as obvious as this needs a certain level of humor alongside the darkness. Also the day before I watched this movie I went to universal and stood in the except line Mia Goth ran through I was so happy.
I am fairly certain you had to continually put in change to keep the window open. When the change "ran out" a blind would cover the window the performer was seen through. It's like a sexy pay phone lol
I remember Pirates being on the new releases shelf at my blockbuster when I was a kid 😂😂
I was trying to think of what felt off about Maxxxine and you guys explained it perfectly! The characters weren’t not fleshed out at all. Even Maxine felt like a raw shell of who she was in X. I definitely was expecting more chase scenes and more tension, but it definitely felt like the characters were just there to be killed off.
The scene when it plays mollys screams over the previous bit where it was silent and now in black and white gives me the chills
Whenever I think of "Pirates" I remember that my partner watched the edited version on TV as a teenager awaiting the porn--all the porn had been cut out, though, so he just watched a really bad Pirates of the Caribbean rip-off 😂 poor man
Maxine’s dad being revealed as the killer was so funny to me cause I literally never suspected that it could’ve been him even though I couldn’t reason in my head anyone else it could be, and I’ve never felt dumber in my life 😅
I was a child actor and I never had an audition on a soundstage. They were almost always in a production office somewhere. There was only a couple times that I can remember where the location stood out as unique. Like I had one on tbe WB backlot in burbank but that was still in an office. Another time was at the chateau marmont by the pool which was very distracting. And another was at Universal citywalk, because there's actually offices above all the stores.
I watched this in theaters and then came home and watch Jennifer’s Body and when I tell you that combination made me feel like I could kill god I’m not even kidding lmao
Empire Strikes Back is seen as the cinematic masterpiece. A New Hope has the most cultural nostalgia. But the Star Wars OT wouldnt exist without the satisfying, if not slightly dull ending on Return Of The Jedi.
Maxxxine is The Return Of The Jedi here. It ensures the trilogy works and is thoroughly entertaining, even when the ending feels a little predictable and straightforward.
Overall a fun movie and one of the best horror trilogies of all time.
Return of the Jedi is on a far more equal plane to Star Wars and Empire than MaXXXine is to X and Pearl.
James thinking someone was "finishing" for 7 whole minutes straight is sooooooo funny
Didn't realize this was a gialo film but it makes total sense
I saw this movie in London and it was so funny how I was laughing at all the LA-ness of this movie and everyone else was sitting in silence
My only thing with maxxxine is that i feel like I (and anyone who saw "X") already knew where this plot was going from the start and i think Ti West has been so good at being subversive with X and pearl that you expect this movie to really go to new places. Buuut.. Once you finally reach the ending portion the satanic panic was played so straight and for me i was kinda like ok if we werent gonna go anywhere with *this* i wouldve spent that time fleshing out the people that surround maxines life that were supposed to care abt
I'm SO glad the lawsuit got mentioned and I hope we get more details on that soon. The lawsuit seems weird but it's not something I want to overlook and I hope Mia Goth didn't do it but I don't want to just ignore this if there is a hint of truth to it. I'm so glad that that got mentioned and you guys are making this podcast on it! I was so curious to hear more of your finer thoughts on how it's a solid film but it doesn't go up to par with the other two films!
Something interesting to note is the last line of dialog is Maxine saying she never wants it to end.
“2160 ain’t built yet” Working at Universal has never been so worth it for watching a podcast episode 😂
Molly is a great addition to the podcast. She looks so precious in her little outfit.
Molly's little outfit is so precious. ❤
The Lily Collins accent is so funny to me because the accent she’s doing couldn’t be any farther from the accent her character claims to have (council estate North Yorkshire) and I honestly still can’t tell if it’s satire or not.
My favorite thing about this movie is the scene when Elizabeth tells Maxine to “squash” whatever is getting in the way of her being on time to work and literally squashing Kevin bacon
I think that Maxxxine killing people who are already dying is a way of making sure your protagonist is not viewed as villainous.
I am also old; I was a newly minted adult in the 80s and I went to those adult booths with the performers on the other side of the glass.
They could see and hear you, and it really was only a quarter or up to a dollar; and the way they made money was by having the show times be only a few minutes, thereby inducing you to pay over and over.
Now I want to see you guys do a podcast on the Darren Mc Gavin tv movie “The Night Stalker”.
thank you james and chelsea for giving me my love for horror movies
51:40 was completely expecting James to say the 1998 Psycho remake lmao
James sputtering at 41:15 got me so good for some reason
When I had to audition for hunger games, we were on the Atlanta studio lot for it
As someone who knows some of halsey’s music. I didn’t know who she played. So to answer your question about her accent. I did not question it.
31:21 - 31:27 : I really hope that one person that did the dead meat out of context vid is watching this 😂
Peep Shows were a big thing in the 70s-90s. You'd pay a quarter for a small amount of time, like maybe a minute, and multiple people would be doing it at once for the same performer, so the money added up.
please please PLEASE watch yellowjackets!! the best horror show on tv at the moment in my opinion
Molly is so adorable in her outfit! What an absolute sweetheart
Molly is adorable!
Aah!! I nearly screamed when Chelsea said she’s playing the Nancy Drew games! I have played those since I was like 12 and nobody talks about them! They’re so fun!!
Angel was one of my favorite 80s movies! It’s a must see!
Apple podcast listener dropping by TH-cam just to say I’d love to hear a podcast episode on Angel. I absolutely adore that movie and want more people to check it out.