[JPN] Metal Gear Rising : Revengeance - Armstrong speech subtitles
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- The English version of MGR did a really great job, but I thought it was interesting to see the little differences between the JPN - ENG versions.
The Japanese dub is a bit more serious and less quotable than the English, but I do prefer Japanese Raiden. I do like how Armstrong just calls out Raiden as a huge hypocrite on all his standing-up-for-the-weak shtick though. Raiden's been cutting a path through at least 3 different games at this point, he's clearly not very weak at all, he's just forcing everyone else to tow the line same as Armstrong has.
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Everyone gangsta until Armstrong gets a stand
[It has to be this way]
HERMIT PURPLE!
[Rage Against The Machine]
He clearly uses Hamon.
[America the Beautiful]
the guy who couldn't forgive the japanese is now an american senator.
this joke is to poke fun at the fact that senator armstrong here sounds like old joseph joestar from jojo part 3
They do have the same VA I mean.
This is due to the fact that they are literally voiced by the same guy.
Now that adds to the joke. 15/10 lmao
He is the va
Also this senator throw and big eye brow boy off a cliff
Heihachi Mishima, Joseph Joestar (pt. 3), and Senator Armstrong, among other characters. You really can't get much more stacked as a VO. Miss you, Unsho...
He was also Professor Oak, and Mr Satan!
What was surprising, is that whenever I see all those characters at different times, I could always figure out that who was on the recording room. All of them were impressive works of him, and I will be missing him for all times.
RIP, Mr. Unsho Ishizuka.
I thought I recognised him from somewhere... If only Armstrong screamed holy shit
He is also voice Beatstar and Great Emperor Lah Deus.
I thought his voice sounded familiar
After Old Joseph received Dio's blood, he is already a different person.
In a world where he didn’t fake it…
Naw it's all Hammon or Tekken force. Ascended Heihachi.
Stand User: Steven Armstrong
Stand Name: NANOMACHINES SON!
He doesn't need a stand, he could rip Star Platinum in two with his bare hands.
@@flopper748 he IS the stand
@@flopper748
Only stand user can see the other
But I think, he just need like the ability of his stand like "I don't the stand, I need the ability"
Hamon Master:Young Josefu Joestar
Hamon:Overdrive Beat/Clackle Volley
Nah bro, he got Armament Haki
1:00 I prefer how in the English version raiden says “THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING?!” It shows how confused and almost concerned he is about fighting a literal United States Senator which perfectly captures the feelings of the player at this point. In the Japanese version he seems to be more concerned for Armstrong and how he could be injured due to not being armed.
I interpreted it as "how can you hurt me when you don't even have a weapon?"
I think Raiden is just confused on how Armstrong is gonna fight a cyborg ninja that drinks spines to heal while unarmed.
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the jp dialog is really different and toned down because the cinematography of the scenes are made for the english dialog
theres no mention of armstrong playing college ball in university of texas
instead he just mentions he's a really good athelete unlike the other politicians
kinda sad really, because mentioning he was a former american football player even on the japanese dialog would really make him an extra entertaining character and even add more to the absurdity of everything
@@TheGraveyarder I can understand why it wasn't included in the japanese version, because they wouldn't have understood the following mentions of University of Texas and Ivy League
3:42 this game is just full of JoJo reference
Dawg... the VA of Armstrong is literally Joseph Joestar lmao
I giorno Giovanna have a dream
It aged REALLY well LOL
Funny that Senator Armstrong is a fucking JOESTAR
Lol
He could rip DIO in half with his bare hands now.
3:32 Joseph VA saying “I have a dream”
As good as the voices here are, Quinton Flynn and Alastair Duncan are irreplaceable for their respective characters.
But isn't this game originally from Japan? Making this their original voice? Just sayin.
@@BlossomPathOnStage15 It is from Japan but as you can see, the mouth movement perfectly syncs with the english version so their original voices were in english first, just like Death Stranding.
@@rickyboiiiii isn't that what dubbing normally does? Or is that only in anime?
@@MrGamelover23 The mouth movement in the JP dub does not sync at all.
@@MrGamelover23
No, in dubs it's the opposite. The mouth flaps of the characters are animated to fit the Japanese VA, and the English actors have to articulate their words in order to fit the mouth flaps.
1:46 I like how even though there are major differences between the Japanese and English versions, they both share the same "don't f$@k with this senator!" Line and I love it!
I really would've liked to see 'Mother of all Omelettes' in Japanese
It's so strange how their speeches are so similar yet equally so different. In English, Armstrong emits the idea that anarchy is a good way to get rid of the delusional America that's been lied to and have people fight for what they believe in. While the Japanese version seems to focus more on ridding America of all of it's political cowards that control everything from the shadows, letting everyone who wants to make a change have a chance to stand up for themselves. Regardless of how long this post is, this game is art, and that's all there is to it.
Armstrong isn't an anarchist in English, he's just lying to manipulate Raiden. Also killing all the poors so the "strongest" (richest) can change the laws to suit them is the opposite of anarchist.
What I got from this is the japanese VA's convey the japanese author's idea better but the english VA's suit the models and setting best. All solid performances!
Armstrong never spoke of anarchy, people who understand it that way. He even says in his speech who would be war, that is, it's not for everyone and he's already taken civilians out of the equation, if people didn't learn to interpret in school, it's understandable that they and others get it wrong, but it's also not enough to be a master of grammar, they have to know the whole story, because what Armstrong proposes is a solution to a problem that was left at the end of MGS4. The history of MG has as the profession of soldiers, pmcs and etc a way of life as if it were any other, it is not like in the real world. Armstrong doesn't want everyone to kill themselves, he told Sam that they would do organized violence, without causing civilian deaths, one of the reasons Sam understood what he proposes.
Another thing is in relation to the screenwriter of this game, Etsu Tamari, a master, a genius, because he reflected on Raiden that people would interpret Armstrong wrong and that's what happened, the senator is so desperate with the misunderstanding that he didn't even want to fight, shown in dialogue that he asks Raiden to JUST TALK about it. Because yes, again, the weak and strong are not literal. Almost everybody gets this wrong, but it's explained in the codec, music, and dlc.
Strong are people who don't settle, who fight against everything and everyone, motivated by the ideas they believe in, it can be me, you, or a person who is hungry...
Strong are people that does nothing, the one who has money but tells others to do it for him, just like tycoons and people with monetary conditions who could change the world but do nothing.
This is set in the DLC, when Sam thought he was one of those weak types and so, too, that he says he misunderstood him later when Armstrong gets up and insists on making him join him. Also set in Collective Consciousness.
Etsu Tamari loves The Boss and that's why her and Armstrong's ideal of unifying the world are very similar. And that's probably why he's called Armstrong. Because of the Astronaut, Neil Armstrong. The Boss had her ideal of unifying the world when she went into space to test the cabin and Neil Armstrong was the first man to walk on the moon. It's a poetic message from a writer in love with a character and that's why Armstrong is one of the most genius and complex characters I've ever seen, who I was delighted to study and see how wrong I was about him. And there are still stupid people who say he is a parody of Trump when the game was written years before the game's launch and at that time there was no idea that Trump would be political. This is all because people take it to an ideological side that didn't even exist when the game was created and so many misinterpret Armstrong. Raiden himself understood, and we know this from the song It Has To Be This Way, because this song is his and not Armstrong's, the lyrics of this song show what he sees in the Senator. The proof that this song is by Raiden is Murasama's mechanics, if people don't even know that, then they shouldn't even have an opinion on Metal Gear or Armstrong. To know this and much more, people have to know the details, the conversations and who wrote it, they also have to open their mind and remove any real reference, because ideological battle from the real world did not exist at the time.
@@PantherIsa Take your meds.
@@ПетрПетров-о6ъ9н Not everyone is your mother, that need a use. I only summarized the entire franchise. 😂🤣😂
8:06 I applaud the creativity of the english dub team here. Changed Armstrong's word to something funnier (and memeable) but literaly means the same thing😁
*making the mother of all omelet here jack. can't fret over every egg!*
i'm pretty sure (I'm likely wrong, though) that the English version came first. you can hear it in some of the grunts that Raiden makes while the MG is falling, and also the lip sync.
Literally means revolution has sacrifices
@@morimemento5841 all the revolution in the history always has.
Can’t believe Raiden says to eat the 1% in Japanese. Awesome.
Based Raiden
In both versions Raiden lost the arguement.
They seemed pretty matched.
Man MGR japanese......kinda make sense to be honest
Indeed. His speech was more moving and convincing...but the English version is way too iconic.
Lol
I like that in English version Armstrong catches the sword and says nice knife while in Japanese version he says piece of junk😂
3:42 someone plz, give him a piano. Just forget that blonde teenager
“Niwa yume ga aru”
lmao
he's... around 30 at the time the game was released, in 2018 (the time the game is set) he was 35..
People think it's going to be the same as the western, but there's only one thing, he's already said that civilians will remain the same, so whoever kills a civilian, either he will take care of eliminating the murderer, or someone who wants to do justice, will be supported by him. Understand that Armstrong's speech doesn't start at that moment, his speech starts when he first show up to Raiden, when he's talking about what the Patriots left and ends when he dies. It's no use taking just a part or just this game, you have to know that their world is the post disaster in MGS4.
One of the few times I prefer the English voices, mainly just because the characters are so deeply American. Besides, judging by the way the lips are moving, it seems it was originally written in english? I don't know if that's true but still.
That is the case, and it appears to be true for all or most of Kojima's games.
@@BioGenx2b That's also the case with a lot of Suda51's recent games.
@@BioGenx2b No, Kojima's games are written in Japanese, first. Kojima was famously unhappy with the localisation for MGS1.
@@BioGenx2bnot really kojima
This is platinum, capcom ex
Alot of their product was meant to be voiced by english actor, especially if the setting is set on western/america/europe
more recent year (2011 ish) they start having japanese VA as extra content
6:48 damn this hits so hard
I remember the first time I watched this scene in Japanese and I said "so that's why that Achievement is called "The Politics of Silencing foes""
Ever harassed a minority Raiden?
wait
the japanese va for senator is the same as joseph joestar
raiden is also joseph joestar (part 2)
@@jinxmybeloved6930 no its not
his va is different
They Using Hamon No Beat or Hermit Purple
Is that... Bunta Fujiwara?
"All wheel drive, son. I get instant traction in response to full throttle! You can't outrun me, Takumi."
yep he was also bunta fujiwara's VA
When you realize Japanese Armstrong is old Joseph: O M G I S T H A T a J O J O R E F E R E N C E ! ? ! ?
When did Joseph become a senator?!
When did Bunta Fuijiwara become a senator?
Hard to believe the Japanese audio is actually the dub in this instance.
now that I think about it. Armstrong's JP voice actor is the guy who played as Hercule from Dragon ball
old man joseph's va was in this
Is that Joseph's voice???
Yup!
Yep. May Unshō Ishizuka rest in peace.
Is that a mother fuckin' Jojo reference?
Yes, that's him
both young AND old joseph is here
Its actually very different between the two languages. All the sentences are different.
Can't believe Armstrong has Armament haki that's visible
I was thinking that.
Can't believe Armstrong has Armament haki that's visible
NanoHaki, son!
3:41
"I, Steven Armstrong, have a Dream!"
8:25 my best moment
The screaming is perfect , OH NOOOOO
This is the second time the Japanese voice actor played an American
Is that a jojo reference?
My face when I learned Joseph Joestar is voiced by Armstrong
Wait a minute where the Japanese Version Of Nanomachines Son?
Really late, but because it's Heihachi's (and Joseph's) VA, I can imagine Jin (somehow) convincing Heihachi to give the zaibatsu to him in exchange for nanomachines.
Wow the dialogue is like completely changed
Imagine getting beat up so bad, then they guy who did it picks you up because he thinks it’s been a misunderstand and tries to dust you off 😂
This is the easy to understand version which is ironic because it is in Japanese
Alright might be a hot take but this is like the polite Watered-down version
@@angelochile8103 the Japanese version was the original version
They say basically the same things, but the Japanese version is far more direct towards the various groups of politicians, businesspeople, and civilians he wants to affect. The English script is relatively general with who he wants to target and/or assist, wanting them to be affected by his rhetoric instead of him himself, yeah.
Senator Armstrong when raiden beats him: HOLY SHIT
raiden was casually doing a wombo combo
JOSEPH JOESTAR?!
Es idea mía o el senador tiene la voz de Heihachi Mishima?
When I heard Senator's Japanese voice, I easily recognized that he has the same VA as the old Joseph Joestar.
Raiden is even more based here
Don't get me wrong they're good but they still can't really compare to Quinton Flynn and Alastair Duncan, They fucking killed it so I don't think many people they could've hired would be as good as them.
I I feel like the english voices are more iconic, but the japanese voice actors are better actors. Their emotions are more believable and sound less like someone is reading a script, in my opinion.
The fuck they are Armstrong sounds fucking horrible. Voice doesn’t match the character at all, He sounds like he’s got a severe case of the run’s.
Nano hamon son
would've been better if Armstrong actually said "NANI???" at 7:46 lmao
I gotta admit that the adaptation took an outrageous amount of liberties, but somehow this still feels like the inferior one
Вы тоже от фурри Зардима?
Дя
mister joestar?
3:41 Armstrong read Vento Aureo
man this guy would be so based if he dropped the social darwinism
2:09 In Japanese he disses the sword but in English he gives appraisal
he's being sarcastic about it, mocking the sword as a "knife".
Go ahead, Mr. Joestar.
The Japanese voice is very very good but the English voice of this is quite more impressing
I know this is going to sound silly but I think the English voice suits Armstrong because he's American
@@mx-extreme3905 yeah the English is more impressing
@@jedrayala6679 and despite this being let's say the original (because the game is Japanese) it makes the English dubbing have a better ambiance in the game
Yeah but jp is also good
I love how in this version he's way more surprised Armstrong is augmented which honestly makes sense
All i hear is heihachi.
Hm, nicely done with the Subtitles and if they really are accurate then, while I do like what we got with the English Dub, I do now actually kind of wish that it could’ve been a little more accurate to the Japanese.
Is this how the sub versus dub argument usually gets explained? I see why it's such a fervent debate.
I’m still amazed that this game was not originally in English. The English dub just fits more to me for some reason. Doesn’t mean this isn’t good though.
OH MY GOD
Alternative title : Young joseph (raiden) vs old joseph (armstrong)
Bro, Japanese Armstrong sounds so similar to American Armstrong. ._.
Heihachi/Joseph voice actor vs Raiden/Vergil voice
THE SENATOR BECAME A JOSEPH?!
Is that Heihachi’s voice?!
Yes.
Heihachi Mishima got reincarnated into Senator Armstrong?!
"Hermit Purple, son."
Anorher case of " the villain was actually right".
Beatstar, Steven Armstrong, Old Joseph Joestar, Lah Deus, INFINITY Dr. Hell
Joseph Joestar?
Mgr is my favorite anime
ITS FUCKING JOSEPH JOESTAR!
*Does a Dragon Ball style powerup* Raiden: You're unarmed!
Yesh raiden surely normal unarmed people emit thay kind of energy
Esto me demuestra que el doblaje japones del juego, tiene dialogos diferentes al ingles.
es basicamente lo mismo
Eso me dijo otro, se siente que los dialogos son un poco distintos pero el contexto es el mismo.
Joseph joestar
Joseph joestar
Yakuza has changed a lot.
Funny that Raiden's VA voiced Aoyama in Yakuza 5.
Pls do part 2
Senator Satan mishima Joestar
RIP Unshō Ishizuka
Hamon, son. It burns you in response to physical trauma.
College memes son!
japanese voices for this game is just not really that good imo
yeah they really blew the writing for the characters in the JP ver. Sounds a lot more sanitized and lacks the character.
About time somebody doesn’t jerk off japanese VA’s for once. I wish Weebs could admit that there’s actually a lot of bad Japanese voice acting in the world, it’s just people seem to not notice it because of the language barrier, and trust me this is one of those examples.
Can you do this for other scenes, like the Monsoon one?
"Lest go"
"The hell are you thinking"
Bunta on steroids
joseph is armstong
Armstrong sounds like Joseph Joestar lol
The English sounds more suitable for armstrong
KONO JOSEPHU JOESTAR NIWA YUME GA ARU
We will make Nippon great again!
The jp dub is cool but this is the first time I’ve preferred english
NANOMACHINES
OVERDRIVE