Wonderful video. Thank you for making these. Your paint choices and schemes are top notch. Keep up the good work! The negativity in the comments section is disappointing. Complaints about the Pinion? Then complain to PINION! Jesus, don't get mad at Co-Motion because you don't like the shifter Pinion spec'd. Oh and if you had ANY mechanical understanding of a gearbox, you'd know that there's a reason they're using a twist-shifter. I'll let you figure out the rest! No internal cables? Gee, Einstein, wanna figure out how to couple a bike with internal cables? Not feasible at all. Plus, people actually TOURING do not want the pain in the ass that is internal cable routing. But if you're into "super low drag coefficients of internal routing," then why exactly are you touring? Shouldn't you be at the cafe with the other wankers? And if you've ever bicycle toured, the LAST thing you want when a derailleur bites the dust or a cable gets toasted in the rain and mud, is INTERNAL cable routing. Total PIA. Ha, ha! Co-Motion, you keep doing what you're doing. Let the wankers buy their plastic Asian crap!
They're all beatiful, but I'm just so use to nice classic level top tube. And I love the idea of the gearbox but I just dont think I could ever afford so many bikes that I could get experimental when buying one.
Such a beautiful bike! Can you put thinner tires on the Divide's rims? And would that negatively alter the geometry/ride of the bike? Asking because I do mostly paved road touring/commuting but would like the ability to occasionally ride with fatter tires off-road. For that reason, torn between this model and the Americano.
Really impressive touring bike! This checks off a lot of features and even a few I didn't know I could want. Really liking that you offer a 29er and I'm digging the custom grip shifter. Guess I'll need to check out your website to see what a full custom build can offer since I like flat bars over drops.
@@co-motioncycles7269 ok that's great to hear. My next question would be on changing out the brakes as well since I'm a shimano guy and would like to run a set of their brakes. There's plenty of other things I would like to add as well. Right now I've just been checking out different brands to see what I can get and for what price.
@@buckroger6456 Ordered mine ~ 6 months ago with alt bars. Last I heard it's in line for paint so I would be getting it soon. Spec are the same as this video aside form dynamo hub and alt bars. 😎
@@30bones yo congratulations 👍. Sounds like you will be out having a lot of fun on a new bike. I'm still trying to figure out what type of bike I really want to get, all I know is that I want one with a Rolhoff gearhub and gates carbon belt drive.
Hi Team Just curious, any chance we can custom build this using Reynolds 953(SS) instead of 725 for an additional cost? Living near seaside and having concerns with rust.
The colour is dreadful, but I appreciate the display video and would like to see more pinion builds and maybe a review and comparison between the Rohloff and the P1. 18. The bikes are pretty expensive and I guess everyone should have the information about the difference in riding behaviour of those bikes, to be able to decide what suits themselves.
Thanks for your comments. I'm not sure if you don't like the color of the bicycles or the quality of video production. The bikes we can paint in any color, but our videos are going to remain self-produced. We'll do our best to improve on video quality as we create more content. As for your other comment regarding the price, you're absolutely right. People can and should come to their own conclusions based on their research and their individual needs as well as budget. Our reputation is well known, and while we know our bikes are far from the cheapest, we believe we offer a lot of value.
@@dwanshepard4957 I don't know what he was referring to, but I thought the colours of both of those bikes were badass. That olive and sky blue especially.
I tried putting my 58cm pinion divide in the case. It fits by bulging here and there. It weighs 57 lbs without the extras, pedals, rack, fenders, bottle cages, rear light, etc. if the airline does not accept it I will stop by the dealer to see if they have a better method for packing.
Hi Mark, the main goal with the travel case is to avoid oversize baggage fees however some models with certain drive-trains will exceed the weight limit. Have you looked at our Pinion packing manual on our site? There's a link in the support menu, bottom left of the home page.
@@co-motioncycles7269 Thanks guys. I am back from Japan now. Although my wife did not allow me enough time for riding, I was very happy to have.my bike with me. On my return, someone somewhere must have manhandled by case such that the front rotor was bent. Tomorrow I will hunt for a new one at our local shop. Next time I will remove the rotors. It rained while I was there and I noted rusting of the front fork at the junction of the stem and the spacers under it. On reassembly I have covered those rusted areas with some grease. The sealant solidified in one of the wheels. I did air them down to allow the large 29ers to fit in the case. I did not even attempt to add any extras, bottle cages, fenders, or rack. I did bring a kickstand and a small tool kit. I was near the max weight limit. The 18 speed P18 worked well up many a hill. One lady, who must have sold her bike, offered me a floor pump for free, saying that.my bike looked so nice and professional. Another man who spoke some English, saw the gearbox and asked where I got bike. "It's Amerixan made, right over near Eugene Oregon." Well he knew where California was at least. Japan has many step throughs, Mama Chari's, and the majority of bikes are now electric compared to what I remember from just 4 years ago. People there use the bike as transportation,, not for exercise. Bikes are also not terribly expensive. I did register.my bike upon arrival and had a international driver's license.
Any Aluminium frame builds with Rohloff or Pinion, 29 inch, handlebar options and other customisations? Won't lever based precision shifters be better than wrist fatigue in the one shown?
We have made some custom aluminum frames for both the Rohloff and Pinion drive-trains. So, yes this is possible. Currently there are no available lever based shifters for the Pinion gearbox. Gebla offers a setup for the Rohloff hub however.
Hi Michael, We did build titanium bikes back in the 90's and ended titanium production ~ 1996 for several reasons, I think the most important being that it's important for us and really for any business to focus on what we do best. We're very good at making the highest quality steel and aluminum bicycles. For touring and adventure cycling, steel is such a versatile material and nothing can match its value. Where load carrying and performance in the toughest conditions are concerned, nothing can beat a high quality steel frame. Remember, not all steel frames are equal. We design our steel frame tubes with the top tubing producers to make a frame that is lighter, tougher and better able to handle loads than the other bikes in the marketplace. We've built our reputation on the exceptional capability we build into every bike. We also understand that some folks simply want a titanium bike for whatever reason, and we're OK with that. There is room in this industry for builders who specialize in ti bikes, and they work hard for a living too.
On expedition touring models, the P-series and 18-speed gearbox is recommended by Pinion. It's more robust with a wider gear range. The C-series boxes are lighter and better suited for commuting, gravel bikes and lightweight touring.
Hi just to say move the camera at a wider view to what your filming and the camera lens will adjust to a proper focus and the viewer can watch what you mean don't go to close to the subject the lens will self focus Brendan IRL
The bike looks great but the shifter doesn't do it for me. If you're going downhill to an uphill you'll need to take your hands off the drops or the hoods to shift gears. Just doesn't seem efficient or as stable as it could me. Or if you are going uphill, gripping your bars or your drops and you need that easier gear, now you need to release the drops to adjust the bars losing leverage. I know 18 gears is a lot to shift through, but it doesn't seem efficient to me to release your bars when you're fighting the climb. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Appreciate the feedback. Keep in mind this isn't a singletrack slayer, it's an off-road touring bike. So, you likely won't need to change gears that quickly. This drop-bar shifter solved the problem of not being able to mount the Pinion made shifter on a road handlebar. It may not suit everyone but it does allow for drop handlebars to be used with the P-series gear boxes.
Not that touring bike people care, unless going up a steep ascent, but how much in total does a Divide weigh with the Pinion gearbox, the gates drive, no fenders, no dynamo, no water bottle cages, no racks, no couplers, and no pedals? This way people can compare its weight with other (albeit lesser) offerings out there.
@@co-motioncycles7269 so according to my calculations, if I have the 58cm Divide, and I place it in the CoPilot case, I should just clear Southwest's airline limit of 50lbs provided I stow a few parts of the bike in another suitcase, right?
@@markmoreno7295 yes, of course it depends on what else is packed inside like pedals, tools, etc.. Best to confirm weight on a bathroom scale before heading to the airport.
It’s been so long…but can you PLEASE, spend a little bit of money, to pay, someone… anyone…, May be a smart highschooler, or a college student looking to make a little money… to finally, and please create quality and comprehensive videos of all of your bicycles. You probably make the best bicycles in all the world for every aspect of cycling, but you have the absolute worst video details f consumers to learn about your products in a comprehensive and Detailed And professional manner? PLEASE!!!, And thank you. God willing.
Exposed cables is a big NONO in my book at that price point and I thought you made something similar to Cinq R-shifters. Grip shifters on a drop bar is another no fucking way I'll buy that. I hate grip shifters period but I know some people are ok with it. Imagine changing hand position every time you need to shift and your hand all that time is away from brakes. Thanks, but no thanks. Maybe touring at 5 miles an hour on empty road bike is ok but I wouldn't like to ride it on any busy traffic street.
The Cinq5 shifter/ brake system is only compatible with the C-series gearbox not the P-series like the P1.18 box shown on this Divide. For drop handlebars, there is no other shifter available.
Amazing bike builder! Everyone that has a Co-Motion bike loves them!
Pretty nice bikes I want a frame set up for the pinion so I can add an electric hub motor and Bam! Perfect electric touring bike
Wonderful video. Thank you for making these. Your paint choices and schemes are top notch. Keep up the good work!
The negativity in the comments section is disappointing. Complaints about the Pinion? Then complain to PINION! Jesus, don't get mad at Co-Motion because you don't like the shifter Pinion spec'd. Oh and if you had ANY mechanical understanding of a gearbox, you'd know that there's a reason they're using a twist-shifter. I'll let you figure out the rest!
No internal cables? Gee, Einstein, wanna figure out how to couple a bike with internal cables? Not feasible at all. Plus, people actually TOURING do not want the pain in the ass that is internal cable routing. But if you're into "super low drag coefficients of internal routing," then why exactly are you touring? Shouldn't you be at the cafe with the other wankers?
And if you've ever bicycle toured, the LAST thing you want when a derailleur bites the dust or a cable gets toasted in the rain and mud, is INTERNAL cable routing. Total PIA.
Ha, ha! Co-Motion, you keep doing what you're doing. Let the wankers buy their plastic Asian crap!
They're all beatiful, but I'm just so use to nice classic level top tube. And I love the idea of the gearbox but I just dont think I could ever afford so many bikes that I could get experimental when buying one.
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Such a beautiful bike! Can you put thinner tires on the Divide's rims? And would that negatively alter the geometry/ride of the bike? Asking because I do mostly paved road touring/commuting but would like the ability to occasionally ride with fatter tires off-road. For that reason, torn between this model and the Americano.
To a point yes, most rims that accommodate 2.25" tires would accept 35-40mm road tires also
Really impressive touring bike! This checks off a lot of features and even a few I didn't know I could want. Really liking that you offer a 29er and I'm digging the custom grip shifter. Guess I'll need to check out your website to see what a full custom build can offer since I like flat bars over drops.
We can build a Divide with flat bars, no problem!
@@co-motioncycles7269 ok that's great to hear. My next question would be on changing out the brakes as well since I'm a shimano guy and would like to run a set of their brakes. There's plenty of other things I would like to add as well. Right now I've just been checking out different brands to see what I can get and for what price.
@@buckroger6456 Ordered mine ~ 6 months ago with alt bars. Last I heard it's in line for paint so I would be getting it soon. Spec are the same as this video aside form dynamo hub and alt bars. 😎
@@30bones yo congratulations 👍. Sounds like you will be out having a lot of fun on a new bike. I'm still trying to figure out what type of bike I really want to get, all I know is that I want one with a Rolhoff gearhub and gates carbon belt drive.
@@buckroger6456 Thanks. After a lot of research, I opted that Pinion is a better choice....for me anyway. Price was not much more.
I own a deschutes. The bike is far more comfortable to ride than any other bikes I have.
Hi Team
Just curious, any chance we can custom build this using Reynolds 953(SS) instead of 725 for an additional cost? Living near seaside and having concerns with rust.
Good question... give us a ring and we can discuss this further!
Hello there, I am looking to get a Co Motion bike. Should I go with the Rohloff or the Pinion? Which one is better for long distance touring?
They are both great for long distance touring! The Pinion will offer wider gear range but will weigh and cost a little more.
The colour is dreadful, but I appreciate the display video and would like to see more pinion builds and maybe a review and comparison between the Rohloff and the P1. 18. The bikes are pretty expensive and I guess everyone should have the information about the difference in riding behaviour of those bikes, to be able to decide what suits themselves.
Thanks for your comments. I'm not sure if you don't like the color of the bicycles or the quality of video production. The bikes we can paint in any color, but our videos are going to remain self-produced. We'll do our best to improve on video quality as we create more content. As for your other comment regarding the price, you're absolutely right. People can and should come to their own conclusions based on their research and their individual needs as well as budget. Our reputation is well known, and while we know our bikes are far from the cheapest, we believe we offer a lot of value.
@@dwanshepard4957 I don't know what he was referring to, but I thought the colours of both of those bikes were badass. That olive and sky blue especially.
Holy cow, what a sweet bike!!! The website was unclear as to the price of this bike as configured.
Here are the options you would need to select on the pricing calculator: Pinion 18, Team Logos, Lighthouse Badge and Silca pump.
I tried putting my 58cm pinion divide in the case. It fits by bulging here and there. It weighs 57 lbs without the extras, pedals, rack, fenders, bottle cages, rear light, etc. if the airline does not accept it I will stop by the dealer to see if they have a better method for packing.
Hi Mark, the main goal with the travel case is to avoid oversize baggage fees however some models with certain drive-trains will exceed the weight limit. Have you looked at our Pinion packing manual on our site? There's a link in the support menu, bottom left of the home page.
@@co-motioncycles7269 Thanks guys. I am back from Japan now. Although my wife did not allow me enough time for riding, I was very happy to have.my bike with me. On my return, someone somewhere must have manhandled by case such that the front rotor was bent. Tomorrow I will hunt for a new one at our local shop. Next time I will remove the rotors. It rained while I was there and I noted rusting of the front fork at the junction of the stem and the spacers under it. On reassembly I have covered those rusted areas with some grease. The sealant solidified in one of the wheels. I did air them down to allow the large 29ers to fit in the case. I did not even attempt to add any extras, bottle cages, fenders, or rack. I did bring a kickstand and a small tool kit. I was near the max weight limit. The 18 speed P18 worked well up many a hill. One lady, who must have sold her bike, offered me a floor pump for free, saying that.my bike looked so nice and professional. Another man who spoke some English, saw the gearbox and asked where I got bike. "It's Amerixan made, right over near Eugene Oregon." Well he knew where California was at least. Japan has many step throughs, Mama Chari's, and the majority of bikes are now electric compared to what I remember from just 4 years ago. People there use the bike as transportation,, not for exercise. Bikes are also not terribly expensive. I did register.my bike upon arrival and had a international driver's license.
Good pitch!
Can you get the Divide with a flat bar? I prefer a flat bar for touring.
Yes you can, same price.
Any Aluminium frame builds with Rohloff or Pinion, 29 inch, handlebar options and other customisations? Won't lever based precision shifters be better than wrist fatigue in the one shown?
We have made some custom aluminum frames for both the Rohloff and Pinion drive-trains. So, yes this is possible. Currently there are no available lever based shifters for the Pinion gearbox. Gebla offers a setup for the Rohloff hub however.
@@co-motioncycles7269 Which one?
Could you do videos on the Espresso and Camino as well?
Hopefully soon!
What's the largest tire width that can fit the rear?
The Divide can accommodate either 29 x 2.25" tires or 27.5 x 2.6" tires.
DO you offer customization of handlebars, seat posts, stems?
Yes we do!
Do Aluminium versions of the bikes also come with the couplers?
Sorry, we do not offer the frame couplers on aluminum tubing.
How is the gear selector to turn? Is that the only option with the P1.18 gearbox?
The shifters are rotary or twist shifters. This is the only option for the P1.18 box.
I would be interested if you have a distributor in Australia to test ride tgem
Unfortunately we do not have a distributor in Australia currently.
Have you considered making your frames from titanium instead of steel? If not why not? Thank-you!
Hi Michael, We did build titanium bikes back in the 90's and ended titanium production ~ 1996 for several reasons, I think the most important being that it's important for us and really for any business to focus on what we do best. We're very good at making the highest quality steel and aluminum bicycles. For touring and adventure cycling, steel is such a versatile material and nothing can match its value. Where load carrying and performance in the toughest conditions are concerned, nothing can beat a high quality steel frame. Remember, not all steel frames are equal. We design our steel frame tubes with the top tubing producers to make a frame that is lighter, tougher and better able to handle loads than the other bikes in the marketplace. We've built our reputation on the exceptional capability we build into every bike. We also understand that some folks simply want a titanium bike for whatever reason, and we're OK with that. There is room in this industry for builders who specialize in ti bikes, and they work hard for a living too.
I want to change tires size to Marathon Mondial 28"x 2.
I want your suitcase bike model tell about cycle price nd I'm from India I want to travel around india nd other countries
We have pricing calculators on each bike model page of the web site.
What is the weight of the bike?
A Divide with Pinion gearbox will weigh around 31 lbs.
I am 6ft 250lbs, then add bags, can this bike handle the weight ?
Yes it can!
I am 5'6" with an inseam of 29" - would the 52cm Divide 'fit' me? Thanks in advance!
It really depends on your physical build and riding style. Give us a call and we can help to determine the best size for you.
Where do you lock is up??? Never outside... Pinion should have the ability to lock up gearbox so no one to peddle!!!
How many people are using the 18 gearbox versus the 12 gearbox?!? I don't see the advantage in the 18...
On expedition touring models, the P-series and 18-speed gearbox is recommended by Pinion. It's more robust with a wider gear range. The C-series boxes are lighter and better suited for commuting, gravel bikes and lightweight touring.
Trigger or brifter shifting in the near future?
Check out Cinq5 for these type of shifter options, although they are not compatible with the P-series gearbox
@@co-motioncycles7269 right on! I'm looking at the C 1.12 belt drive.
Hi just to say move the camera at a wider view to what your filming and the camera lens will adjust to a proper focus and the viewer can watch what you mean don't go to close to the subject the lens will self focus Brendan IRL
The bike looks great but the shifter doesn't do it for me. If you're going downhill to an uphill you'll need to take your hands off the drops or the hoods to shift gears. Just doesn't seem efficient or as stable as it could me. Or if you are going uphill, gripping your bars or your drops and you need that easier gear, now you need to release the drops to adjust the bars losing leverage. I know 18 gears is a lot to shift through, but it doesn't seem efficient to me to release your bars when you're fighting the climb. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Appreciate the feedback. Keep in mind this isn't a singletrack slayer, it's an off-road touring bike. So, you likely won't need to change gears that quickly. This drop-bar shifter solved the problem of not being able to mount the Pinion made shifter on a road handlebar. It may not suit everyone but it does allow for drop handlebars to be used with the P-series gear boxes.
Price of this bike????
Please see our web site for all options available. The Divide model with Pinion 18 starts at $6,995
Not that touring bike people care, unless going up a steep ascent, but how much in total does a Divide weigh with the Pinion gearbox, the gates drive, no fenders, no dynamo, no water bottle cages, no racks, no couplers, and no pedals? This way people can compare its weight with other (albeit lesser) offerings out there.
Hi Mark, a 55cm Divide model with the Pinion 18-speed gearbox will weigh around 30.5 lbs without pedals, fenders, bottles, etc...
@@co-motioncycles7269 so according to my calculations, if I have the 58cm Divide, and I place it in the CoPilot case, I should just clear Southwest's airline limit of 50lbs provided I stow a few parts of the bike in another suitcase, right?
@@markmoreno7295 yes, of course it depends on what else is packed inside like pedals, tools, etc.. Best to confirm weight on a bathroom scale before heading to the airport.
Hah! Got one. So far so good.
too shaky
It’s been so long…but can you PLEASE, spend a little bit of money, to pay, someone… anyone…, May be a smart highschooler, or a college student looking to make a little money… to finally, and please create quality and comprehensive videos of all of your bicycles. You probably make the best bicycles in all the world for every aspect of cycling, but you have the absolute worst video details f consumers to learn about your products in a comprehensive and Detailed And professional manner? PLEASE!!!, And thank you. God willing.
Exposed cables is a big NONO in my book at that price point and I thought you made something similar to Cinq R-shifters. Grip shifters on a drop bar is another no fucking way I'll buy that. I hate grip shifters period but I know some people are ok with it. Imagine changing hand position every time you need to shift and your hand all that time is away from brakes. Thanks, but no thanks. Maybe touring at 5 miles an hour on empty road bike is ok but I wouldn't like to ride it on any busy traffic street.
The Cinq5 shifter/ brake system is only compatible with the C-series gearbox not the P-series like the P1.18 box shown on this Divide. For drop handlebars, there is no other shifter available.