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Co-Motion Cycles
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Co-Motion Cycles is a bicycle manufacturer located in the Willamette Valley of western Oregon, nestled between the Cascades and Coast ranges. Whether it's a touring bike, road bike, tandem or gravel crusher all of our bikes are hand-made and made to order since 1988. Please visit our web site for more details. www.co-motion.com
Pinion Oil Change with C-Series Gearbox and Cinq5 Shifter Tutorial
Changing the oil on your Pinion C1.12 speed gear box is something that you can easily do from home. Here at Co-Motion HQ, let us walk you through the process with a custom Divide model!
What you will need:
Pinion Gearbox Oil Change Kit - 60 ml: tinyurl.com/aj4h3y83
Oil Container
3mm Allen Key
Torque Wrench with 3mm bit
Loctite or similar medium-strength thread locker
Shop Towel or Rag
**Important Note!
If your bike does not use Cinq5 integrated shifters, you may notice that the front plate covers the top port. No worries, this cover will pop right off with a flat-head screw driver. Then, you can access that top filler/ vent port.
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What you will need:
Pinion Gearbox Oil Change Kit - 60 ml: tinyurl.com/aj4h3y83
Oil Container
3mm Allen Key
Torque Wrench with 3mm bit
Loctite or similar medium-strength thread locker
Shop Towel or Rag
**Important Note!
If your bike does not use Cinq5 integrated shifters, you may notice that the front plate covers the top port. No worries, this cover will pop right off with a flat-head screw driver. Then, you can access that top filler/ vent port.
Have you had your eyes on owning a sweet bike with one of these Pinion gearboxes? Visit co-motion.com/ for info on all of our custom bike options.
Our Instagram: co_motionbikes
Our Facebook: CoMotionCycles
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S&S say that the couplers need to be tightened/checked before every ride, they also say the coupler needs to be tightened to 35 ft/lbs min of torque. What nobody says is where you can buy a torque wrench/tool to use with these couplers. Any suggestions?
If your a gear head, you feel 35 lbsby holding out about 4 in strong
I found your description Very informative and straightforward. I am totally blind and appreciate the attention to verbal detail that you’re giving in this description. thank you very much for your verbal details.
Errado! Deitar a bike e usar seringa para drenar(puxar) o óleo usado.
Good info but if you're going to make a video, please do it out of hours the background workshop noise was a distraction
It would cost so little money to get a professional reviewer to show do TH-cam faithful the details of the comb Ocean bicycles. It’s 2024. There are a grade school kids who can put together a better marketing review. Please
It’s been so long…but can you PLEASE, spend a little bit of money, to pay, someone… anyone…, May be a smart highschooler, or a college student looking to make a little money… to finally, and please create quality and comprehensive videos of all of your bicycles. You probably make the best bicycles in all the world for every aspect of cycling, but you have the absolute worst video details f consumers to learn about your products in a comprehensive and Detailed And professional manner? PLEASE!!!, And thank you. God willing.
What comes out then SON? AC or Dc?
I own a deschutes. The bike is far more comfortable to ride than any other bikes I have.
thanks !
I need that double eyelet front fork Thank goodness!
Hi can you well me what thread the Vent / drain plugs are please (want to make up an adapter)
Good question, I would inquire directly with Pinion.
Hello there, I am looking to get a Co Motion bike. Should I go with the Rohloff or the Pinion? Which one is better for long distance touring?
They are both great for long distance touring! The Pinion will offer wider gear range but will weigh and cost a little more.
Hi, do you confirm we can use 75W90 oil for the gearbox service ? Thanks
We can only recommend Pinion brand gearbox oil.
@@co-motioncycles7269 ok, I understand. But what's your thought on 75W90 oil compatibility with "a" gearbox (not necessarily P....n !)
Case starts at 26 minutes
The loctite don’t do the job properly if you don’t degrease before apply. And why locatie only on the drain plug, and not on the fill?
Yes, best to clean any threads before applying Loctite products. There isn't much risk of the fill plug leaking oil since it sits above the oil level.
sweet, just started the order process to get a Co Motion bike
Awesome! We look forward to building a bike for you!
Do Aluminium versions of the bikes also come with the couplers?
Sorry, we do not offer the frame couplers on aluminum tubing.
What is the weight of the bike?
A Divide with Pinion gearbox will weigh around 31 lbs.
DO you offer customization of handlebars, seat posts, stems?
Yes we do!
Do you have any aluminium builds? With Rohloff-belt and customisable options for handlebar, seat post, stem, 29 inch wheels, etc.
All of our dedicated touring models are constructed from custom steel tubing.
Requires much muh skill in comparison with other geared bicycles.
I’m a smaller (5’ 6”) rider and am curious what the difference between this and the Ochoco would be in terms of a dedicated bikepacking rig other than the Ochoco being scaled to smaller riders from the start. Thanks!
Good question! They are both designed around a smaller 650b wheel, however the Siskiyou accommodates a larger tire and is rated for heavier loads while touring. If you're wanting to use the bike mainly for bikepacking off-road, the Siskiyou would be a better choice.
This is the absolute best Rohloff shifter and cable installation video. Tryed to do the install using Rohloffs video and was having trouble, but when I followed your instructions the cable install was easy pezzy. Thanks
Good to know, thanks!
I am so grateful to you for this video. I am having to do this next week. Without your video, I would have no idea.
Glad it was helpful!
Nothing came out of mine. Suction, leaning, tipping, not one drop. To say that’s concerning is an understatement since it’s one year old and has only 1800 miles on it. Not too comfortable pushing 60ml back into it not knowing where the other 60ml went. I’ve emailed the shop I bought it through and CoMotion.
Did you push a syringe full of air into the box prior to suction? I think the air exchange is the key here so you don't create a vacuum. If you try that and still get no oil out, I would add the 60ml of new oil.
Well I liked the music 🤷♂😁
That music is annoying. I have to listen in case there are any spoken words of importance. Better if you talk about what is happening. Or at least have that music at very low volume.....
We aren't experiencing that on our end. Subtitles are enabled if you want to turn the volume down.
Does that reflect co-motion attitiude to customer problems?
How many people are using the 18 gearbox versus the 12 gearbox?!? I don't see the advantage in the 18...
On expedition touring models, the P-series and 18-speed gearbox is recommended by Pinion. It's more robust with a wider gear range. The C-series boxes are lighter and better suited for commuting, gravel bikes and lightweight touring.
Anything with a steering lock while parking, belt drive with Rohloff similar to Koga?
Yes, we can add the SteerStopper to most models along with a belt drive and Rohloff hub. This includes the Americano, Divide, Siskiyou and Pangea bikes.
I want to change tires size to Marathon Mondial 28"x 2.
How is the gear selector to turn? Is that the only option with the P1.18 gearbox?
The shifters are rotary or twist shifters. This is the only option for the P1.18 box.
Wonderful video. Thank you for making these. Your paint choices and schemes are top notch. Keep up the good work! The negativity in the comments section is disappointing. Complaints about the Pinion? Then complain to PINION! Jesus, don't get mad at Co-Motion because you don't like the shifter Pinion spec'd. Oh and if you had ANY mechanical understanding of a gearbox, you'd know that there's a reason they're using a twist-shifter. I'll let you figure out the rest! No internal cables? Gee, Einstein, wanna figure out how to couple a bike with internal cables? Not feasible at all. Plus, people actually TOURING do not want the pain in the ass that is internal cable routing. But if you're into "super low drag coefficients of internal routing," then why exactly are you touring? Shouldn't you be at the cafe with the other wankers? And if you've ever bicycle toured, the LAST thing you want when a derailleur bites the dust or a cable gets toasted in the rain and mud, is INTERNAL cable routing. Total PIA. Ha, ha! Co-Motion, you keep doing what you're doing. Let the wankers buy their plastic Asian crap!
Appreciate that you did these video series on the core touring bikes.
Any Aluminium frame builds with Rohloff or Pinion, 29 inch, handlebar options and other customisations? Won't lever based precision shifters be better than wrist fatigue in the one shown?
We have made some custom aluminum frames for both the Rohloff and Pinion drive-trains. So, yes this is possible. Currently there are no available lever based shifters for the Pinion gearbox. Gebla offers a setup for the Rohloff hub however.
@@co-motioncycles7269 Which one?
Just Awesome :) & Many Thanks :)
Glad you like it!
hi there, im very new to Rohloff and belt drive set ups, just ordered a shifter from . now im looking for a crankset for my bike (santos Bike from netherlands) . witch one did you use on this bike? tks
Hi Christian, most double ring mountain bike cranks with a 104 bcd and 4-bolt pattern work well the Rohloff chainline.
@@co-motioncycles7269 doble ring Because of the “chain line “ belt line?
@@cotiabutcher yes exactly.
The bike looks great but the shifter doesn't do it for me. If you're going downhill to an uphill you'll need to take your hands off the drops or the hoods to shift gears. Just doesn't seem efficient or as stable as it could me. Or if you are going uphill, gripping your bars or your drops and you need that easier gear, now you need to release the drops to adjust the bars losing leverage. I know 18 gears is a lot to shift through, but it doesn't seem efficient to me to release your bars when you're fighting the climb. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Appreciate the feedback. Keep in mind this isn't a singletrack slayer, it's an off-road touring bike. So, you likely won't need to change gears that quickly. This drop-bar shifter solved the problem of not being able to mount the Pinion made shifter on a road handlebar. It may not suit everyone but it does allow for drop handlebars to be used with the P-series gear boxes.
Amazing bikes that I would LOVE to own if they had internally routed cables. It's a must for a great everyday commuter with being out in the rain and chaining it up, etc. I love EVERYTHING about co-motion except for that. You have almost the perfect bike, take that final step, PLEASE!
Thanks Eric, you could achieve a low maintenance drive-train with externally routed cables and full-housing attached to the frame. Less holes makes for a stronger frame, which is why we choose this setup.
@@co-motioncycles7269 I know, especially where and how you guys ride. But for someone who only rides in the city (everyday), the benefits of internally routed cables far outweigh the need for that extra bit of strength. If you ever make one, you'll have my $$$. Still, love what you have done. Take care, -Eric
Hi Team Just curious, any chance we can custom build this using Reynolds 953(SS) instead of 725 for an additional cost? Living near seaside and having concerns with rust.
Good question... give us a ring and we can discuss this further!
Holy heck the music is BLARING
Why not just leave the upper screw out, and let the oil just drain from the bottom hole? Can't see why you would need the syringe to suck the oil out when it will drain out on it's own. Only on a Mercedes do you need to "suck" the oil out.
Have you viewed our other Pinion oil change video on the P.18 box, which was made prior to the syringe method? The oil doesn't drain on it's own. The syringe method works really well in comparison.
Leave top (vent) plug out. Screw the syringe adapter into it's port. Remove drain plug. Slowly introduce air with the syringe to expel oil from the drain. Repeat as necessary. Lay the bike on it's right side. Pump the pre-measured oil into the vent hole (so you don't have to remove the adapter) while leaving the drain plug out so as to equalize the pressure. Remove adapter and re-install the plugs with loctite and torque to spec.
How come the frame has not spit stay for the insertion of the belt?
This frame does have split provision for belt use.
Will the Pangea suit also fat 26 x 1 inch tires? E.g for fast road touring?
Yes, the Velocity Dyad rims will accommodate 25mm tires.
I tried putting my 58cm pinion divide in the case. It fits by bulging here and there. It weighs 57 lbs without the extras, pedals, rack, fenders, bottle cages, rear light, etc. if the airline does not accept it I will stop by the dealer to see if they have a better method for packing.
Hi Mark, the main goal with the travel case is to avoid oversize baggage fees however some models with certain drive-trains will exceed the weight limit. Have you looked at our Pinion packing manual on our site? There's a link in the support menu, bottom left of the home page.
@@co-motioncycles7269 Thanks guys. I am back from Japan now. Although my wife did not allow me enough time for riding, I was very happy to have.my bike with me. On my return, someone somewhere must have manhandled by case such that the front rotor was bent. Tomorrow I will hunt for a new one at our local shop. Next time I will remove the rotors. It rained while I was there and I noted rusting of the front fork at the junction of the stem and the spacers under it. On reassembly I have covered those rusted areas with some grease. The sealant solidified in one of the wheels. I did air them down to allow the large 29ers to fit in the case. I did not even attempt to add any extras, bottle cages, fenders, or rack. I did bring a kickstand and a small tool kit. I was near the max weight limit. The 18 speed P18 worked well up many a hill. One lady, who must have sold her bike, offered me a floor pump for free, saying that.my bike looked so nice and professional. Another man who spoke some English, saw the gearbox and asked where I got bike. "It's Amerixan made, right over near Eugene Oregon." Well he knew where California was at least. Japan has many step throughs, Mama Chari's, and the majority of bikes are now electric compared to what I remember from just 4 years ago. People there use the bike as transportation,, not for exercise. Bikes are also not terribly expensive. I did register.my bike upon arrival and had a international driver's license.
I'm looking to get back into bike touring after a break of about 20 years and am utterly amazed at the technology advances in cycling....the Rohloff speed hub with a carbon belt looks like a low-maintenance touring bike dream! Very excited to give one a try.
Great video! Very helpful. I would love it if you made a video on how to run the shifter cables on the Cinq shifter, with tips on tension etc.
I wish they made a Cinq for the P18 ;(
Megan, we agree that would be great but we don't have any Cinq5 shifters here. As you know, they're out of stock and you got the last set from our showroom!
Is the Americano the only model that is derailleur and undished?
For single bike models yes, this is achieved with a 145mm rear hub.
@@co-motioncycles7269 why do you think this is not a standardised thing? Makes sense to me. I guess you’d have to get all the component makers onboard with it which would be challenging because of the power of tradition 🙂
so you don't get 60mls out but you put 60mls of new oil back? so after lets say 3 oil changes and only getting around 20mls out each oil change and you put 60mls new oil into the gear box x 3 where is all this oil? I'm I missing something?
Please read the description of the video. Pinion has changed the oil change methods and now provides a threaded adapter for the syringe tubing to draw more oil from the gearbox prior to adding the new oil.
before putting the cover back on shouldn't he have put grease on those little gears or whatever they are?
Hi Derek, yes you can add some additional poly lube on the shifting gears if needed.
I'm going to utilize old tennis balls on the ends of the S&S. That way they'll be fully covered and won't gouge anything else in the travel bag or the bag itself.