Absolutely not. If the tyre and wheel are correctly matched width wise, then you can normally re-seat the bead quite easily. However, if all I had was a hand or foot pump, then I'd consider it as a last resort, but rather stick a tube inside the tyre than use this method.
Cameronwood1994 made a good suggestion - installing a tube as another method. Here though we are talking about last resort I think, so every other method fails, I'm in the middle of nowhere, no tube, compressor not doing it for me and unlikely to have a suitable spare drive by from a fellow wheeler, then yes, I'd grab the deodorant and give it a 5s squirt, if that doesn't work increase to 10s.
In the 70s we had a belt to put around the middle of the tread to seat the bead.A ratchet strap would work, but take it off as soon as the bead has seated.
I really appreciate the preparation you put into this testing, especially identifying the pertinent characteristics of each propellant, their values and ofcourse the testing then presenting it and filming the boom booms! Thanks, informative and great how to!
Good one, Interesting test & results. I’m sure there are a lot of funny stories out there where people have tried or had to do this to get out of a situation, ie; mainly rolling the beads off on sand from over deflating. Not for the faint of heart especially in unfavourable conditions like muddy or sandy tyres in windy conditions with a box of matches or a Bic Flik lighter & ether. TFS. Cheers
Surprising that the test with the valve inserted only had 4psi higher pressure than without. Was never game to leave it in when I've tried it thinking it would blow up in my face.
I stood well back! :) Looks like the main benefit is to slightly reduce the "dynamic loading" of our pressure vessel (tyre!). Just based on that, I think it was worth doing.
You do know that was about $54.00 worth of WD40 you sprayed into that tyre. I'd be more worried about it slipping freely on the rim next time you brake. Everytime I've popped a bead there has been plenty of mud & dirt in the bead resulting in a poor seal. Knowing my luck with improvised fixes with fire, if I tried that there would be an explosion & my VDJ79R would burn down. I tried to burn an old pile of building materials once with a couple of litres of fuel, where's my matches I said reaching around in my pockets after spilling the contents of the fuel can onto the wood. I hurried inside and found my box of Redheads, pulled three out & struck them & threw them onto the petrol...... BOOOOOOOOOOOM !!! Blew the beanie fair off my head and smashed the windows along the side of my old house. Then there was a little flame that just flickered out.
@@LockyourHubs4WDing The beanie escaped un-harmed. It was a lot like a big fart, plenty of noise & a strong gust of wind but with no follow through. Drip torch mix is the better option I know now. I did get my Agricultural blasting Powdermans certificate not long after so then I could really F. things up. I reckon three sticks of Powergel with a bit of det. cord would seat the bead & you'd get a really impressive pressure spike on the oscilliscope.
I agree, I noticed the vacuum through the open valve. Shame I don't have a pressure sensor that could measure both positive and negative pressures, we could check exactly how much vacuum and how quickly it came.
way too much spray 3 seconds will do it, valve core out, compressor on standby ready to inflate after fuel air mix is burnt, valve core goes back in after 10psi or so is added.
@@LockyourHubs4WDing deoderant usually, typically i'd push the bead in and do a spray 180 in one direction and back again to distribute the mix a bit more evenly.
Will you be now grabbing for the nearest spray can the next time you debead a tyre?
Absolutely not. If the tyre and wheel are correctly matched width wise, then you can normally re-seat the bead quite easily. However, if all I had was a hand or foot pump, then I'd consider it as a last resort, but rather stick a tube inside the tyre than use this method.
Cameronwood1994 made a good suggestion - installing a tube as another method.
Here though we are talking about last resort I think, so every other method fails, I'm in the middle of nowhere, no tube, compressor not doing it for me and unlikely to have a suitable spare drive by from a fellow wheeler, then yes, I'd grab the deodorant and give it a 5s squirt, if that doesn't work increase to 10s.
I love your vids, and this one was a bloody crack up. Youre one of the very few toobers i trust so keep it coming and dont sell out 🤟
Thanks mate, I appreciate it. It's been a while since I put a video up, but I'm just starting on a new one now.
In the 70s we had a belt to put around the middle of the tread to seat the bead.A ratchet strap would work, but take it off as soon as the bead has seated.
I still sometimes use that method, especially if both beads have dislodged.
I really appreciate the preparation you put into this testing, especially identifying the pertinent characteristics of each propellant, their values and ofcourse the testing then presenting it and filming the boom booms! Thanks, informative and great how to!
You're welcome, it's not only the how, but the bigger question is the why!
@@LockyourHubs4WDing The biggest question is "When?" and I hope the answer is never.
@@MiniLuv-1984 hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
Good one, Interesting test & results. I’m sure there are a lot of funny stories out there where people have tried or had to do this to get out of a situation, ie; mainly rolling the beads off on sand from over deflating.
Not for the faint of heart especially in unfavourable conditions like muddy or sandy tyres in windy conditions with a box of matches or a Bic Flik lighter & ether. TFS. Cheers
I think the match throwing would be done from a decent distance!
Thanks for showing us it’s handy to know what you should grab…….👍
And that's the air compressor hose..... My nerves are still shot :)
Surprising that the test with the valve inserted only had 4psi higher pressure than without. Was never game to leave it in when I've tried it thinking it would blow up in my face.
I stood well back! :)
Looks like the main benefit is to slightly reduce the "dynamic loading" of our pressure vessel (tyre!). Just based on that, I think it was worth doing.
Thanks for sharing! I'm curious now if the violence could be reduced with fewer seconds of spraying.
I tried 5 seconds at first with the deodorant, though I couldn't get reliable ignition. So doubled down!
You do know that was about $54.00 worth of WD40 you sprayed into that tyre. I'd be more worried about it slipping freely on the rim next time you brake. Everytime I've popped a bead there has been plenty of mud & dirt in the bead resulting in a poor seal. Knowing my luck with improvised fixes with fire, if I tried that there would be an explosion & my VDJ79R would burn down. I tried to burn an old pile of building materials once with a couple of litres of fuel, where's my matches I said reaching around in my pockets after spilling the contents of the fuel can onto the wood. I hurried inside and found my box of Redheads, pulled three out & struck them & threw them onto the petrol...... BOOOOOOOOOOOM !!! Blew the beanie fair off my head and smashed the windows along the side of my old house. Then there was a little flame that just flickered out.
Classic example of why we shouldn't use petrol!
I hope it wasn't a favourite beanie, it's hard to find a good beanie these days! :)
@@LockyourHubs4WDing The beanie escaped un-harmed. It was a lot like a big fart, plenty of noise & a strong gust of wind but with no follow through. Drip torch mix is the better option I know now. I did get my Agricultural blasting Powdermans certificate not long after so then I could really F. things up. I reckon three sticks of Powergel with a bit of det. cord would seat the bead & you'd get a really impressive pressure spike on the oscilliscope.
@@dustyfarmer I might have to pop in the 20:1 attenuator for that one!
Leaving the valve out would stop the tyre from sucking back off the rim.
I agree, I noticed the vacuum through the open valve.
Shame I don't have a pressure sensor that could measure both positive and negative pressures, we could check exactly how much vacuum and how quickly it came.
How long did you spend cleaning the tire. And how many cans of tire shine
Hahaha, it was a good 30 seconds cleaning!
way too much spray 3 seconds will do it, valve core out, compressor on standby ready to inflate after fuel air mix is burnt, valve core goes back in after 10psi or so is added.
I initially tried 5 seconds of the deodorant and couldn't get it to pop. Though maybe less time with the ether might have worked. What were you using?
@@LockyourHubs4WDing deoderant usually, typically i'd push the bead in and do a spray 180 in one direction and back again to distribute the mix a bit more evenly.