Replacing Honda Mower transmission HXEA/HMEA/HRX537/(Harmony USA)
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- My Honda Mower after only 3 years became sluggish and there was a grinding noise from the transmission, on taking it to a Dealer for a service I was told that there was a small oil leak from the transmission and it could not be repaired, they said that it would cost 600 Euros for a new transmission! I found a new one 'On-Line' from Lawnmowerpros.com in America for 173.95 Dollars and fitted it myself. I have never done this sort of thing before but all went well.
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I ordered a new transmission as the clutch was worn out. I was worried not knowing how to replace the transmission. I found this you-tube video which is the exact model as mine. Thanks for this video as I now have a complete step by step video of how to do the job. This is the best help video I have ever seen. You should sell this video to Honda customer service!!!
This is one DARN fine video, skips the no point parts and accurately describes the parts you NEED to know to get the job done . . excellent work.
Thank you for producing a very helpful video. I've just had to perform a similar disassembly to replace a snapped transmission cable (original nipple design which can't be simply unhooked). The most difficult part was removing the blade nuts, which had probably been overtightened when serviced. It took a 750mm breaker bar to undo them.
A couple of comments:-
You don't need to remove the scroll handle or petrol tank because you uncouple the linkage when you remove the nut at around 9:30.
For extra safety, it's advisable to disconnect the HT lead from the spark plug. This further reduces the possibility of the engine firing when you're removing the blades.
I found this video invaluable for replacing the transmission in my HRX217HXA mower, especially since I didn’t have a service manual. I set up my laptop in the garage and played/paused the video as I went step by step through the process. Thanks for this extremely helpful and well done video and I truly appreciate you putting it together and posting it here.
Thanks from South Carolina. The job went smoothly with your help. Great "how to" video.
Well done! Well filmed and very informative. I just hope I don't need to make use of the info. Had my mower for about 7 yrs now and no trouble
Great video. Thank you for taking the time to post. I noticed on reassembly that, if I am not mistaken, you placed the curved washer on the gear shaft instead of the wheel shaft. 2:22 shows you pulling it from the wheel shaft originally. Not sure if it made a difference to the operation, but just thought to point that out. Thanks again for the great video.
This is the best videos on TH-cam that shows how to disassemble an HRX. I needed to replace my drive cable, but this is exactly what I needed to see to get access
Cheers 🇨🇦🏴
Thanks very much and I'm glad that my video was of help to you.
Liked your video very much. Thanks for taking the time to do it.
Thank you, I have been searching for a video to complete this job!!!! Darn honda dealerships will not sell me a repair manual. Thank you!
This was an awesome video! I was able to replace my transmission with no problems. Thanks to your video! Greetings from Utah!
Hi Dean, I'm so pleased that my video was of help to you
Can't tell you how much I appreciate this video. I doubt I would have gotten my Honda back together without it. Thanks again !!!
I'm so pleased that my video was so helpful for you
Great video. Thank you for walking me through the clutch cable replacement. A big job.
Hello Mackenzie Rough .. I must tell you that I found your video EXTREMELY helpful. It made it possible for me to replace the failing transmission in my Honda mower as well. I was able to locate a new transmission on Ebay for just about $107. Greetings from Milwaukee Wisconsin! :-)
I'm so glad that my video was of help, it's very worrying that so many Honda mowers these days have transmissions failing! I think that they should look into it!
Thanks Mackenzie, just what I needed. A major pain just to replace the clutch cable!
awesome video. thank you for the great detail and close up video.
Thank you Douglas Chin-Yee, I'm glad that you found my video informative, I'm sure that Honda would not be interested as their Dealers would be losing bushiness, I was quoted a massive 600 Euros to do the job! Anyway these clutches should not be wearing out so quickly! I have a Honda which is 26 years old and the clutch still works fine!!!
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Very, Very Nice tutorial. Thank you for your time and quality production. You have helped me a great deal. I needed to replace rear wheels and a cable on a 2003 Harmony HRT216. I wasted some time and then decided to TH-cam. Glad that I found you.
Thanks again for your hard work and contribution.
I'm so pleased that my video helped you
Great video, helped me a lot in giving me insight in to what was needed to get my transmission out. My 537 was 2nd hand and 2007 model, and the rear adjusters were seized solid, made the job last a day longer than required. I washed mine out, new seals, topped up with new oil, and away it went (it was bone dry).
Everything greased/anti sneezed upon re-assembly, hopefully get a few more years out of her.
I have similar work loafers, great to work in, warm, comfortable, and can sneak indoors to make a tea without taking them off.
M Gomez I couldn’t dissemble the rear axle as it was all seized together, that’s why it took a day longer. Couldn’t reuse the adjusters, soaked them in Plus Gas (penetrating oil) and they wouldn’t unstick, so got new OEM ones, new washers, circlips, the lot on the rear axle.
My hydrostatic gearbox I washed out, put new seals in and topped up with new oil, and it worked and hasn’t leaked yet either. Those boxes ain’t cheap new.
All parts in, it was cheaper then buying a decent condition one and certainly cheaper than a new one.
You had seized adjusters -- I had one seized, was able to remove and separate, wire-wheeled thin coat of spray paint, lightly greased, replaced, no big problems. The I thought I might as well do the other one which is just difficult but not impossible t o move. Bad decision ! I can't get the gear shaft out far enough to replace the circlip even without the washer!! Removed wheel from other side to do a visual check ...maybe I put one of the two thick spacers on the wrong side of the circlip... Here's me thinking on the sofa... So I thought I'd open the mysterious box oops..oil dirty oil comes out. So start researching that. No drain plug. So I thought there'd just be grease inside.
What this guy (who is "not a mechanic"!!) has done is incredible. Ah, well...
Awesome video mckensie! I, like u, was quoted £500 just for the transmission and woulda been another hundred on top to install, with the aid of your video I sourced (from America) and replaced my transmission for less than £200 (genuine Honda transmission) I can't get over why the price varies so much between uk and America,!
Great news, so glad that my video helped, clearly Honda have a big problem with this model!
thank you for the excellent video, my 10 year old HRX 217's engine threw a rod and I am trying to remove the engine, but I could not figure out how to take that scroll out, but now I see where that bolt is, embedded in debris, plus it will make changing out the drive belt much easier.
I'm so pleased that my video was of help.
My pleasure James,
Good luck with your repairs.
Regards,
Ian.
Du hast etwas geschummelt. Die Feder an einer Unterlegscheibe eingehängt? Einfach und genial. Klasse Video. Die Schraube für die innere Radabdeckung hast du auch vergessen. Ansonsten dankefürdie tolle Anleitung. Bin auch gerade dabei die Transmission zu erneuern. 5 Sterne für dich und ein Abo. Zeig noch mehr solche Videos.
Thank you.
Many thanks from France ! Very usefull.
This repair may need to be done on my mower in the near future. The mower used to practically run away from me when the speed lever was pushed forward. Now I’m practically pushing it and there’s a grinding noise developing when the self prop is engaged. So it’s either spend the little money and time to do what you did or just get a whole new mower.
This is a magnificent video. I've now read all thecomments and replies. I'm only here because I started removing the four bolts on the magic box (transmission); there was no drain bolt so I ASSumed it was packed with grease. Wrong!! A few spoonfuls of dirty nasty oil came out, so I came online to find out how to change the oil. OH, boy! And I only thought of opening it to find out why my rod had shrunk: I removed and cleaned the adjusters which were hard/impossible to move -- on the second one, short for into magic box, I couldn't see the groove for the circlip! Maybe I put one of the two spacers at the other end on the wrong side of the circlip...?
Anyway, I see that despite your sterling effort here you are not prepared for an encore to replace the belt. As someone commented sarcastically about Honda -- "We make it simple"!
Thank you, I hope that my video was of help to you.
Thank you I hope that it helps, good luck.
You can see the odd shaped flange or what ever it is underneath the rear scroll at 9:52 but when you put it back together at 17:33 you do not put that on before putting the scroll back on. What's up with that? What am I missing? Thanks for a reply.
Excellent video, exactly what I needed!
Bully, bully, Wonderful job explaining step by step instructions to a task preformed well .
Thanks Ian-I just found it on e-bay-thanks for your help, Kind Regards,James/ Donagh
Thank you, but I took it to a mower repair centre first and was charged €70 only to be told that the transmission needed replacing at €650!
I'm glad that my video helped you, Honda are not very helpful my local deal wanted 600 Euros to do the job! I found the manual (CD) on Ebay listed as :- "Honda HRX537 HRX 537 Workshop Manual + Owners Manual for Service Repair". Good luck.
Your instructions were great. Replacement transmission had smaller pulley, and I assumed it might have different gear ratios as mower is over 9 years old so I put it on anyway. All parts fit well except getting last circlip on is tough. I get no movement at lo speed. I think cable at max setting. How can I be sure? Also, when trying to turn mower both rear wheels act like there is no differential. Is that correct? Don't remember it that way. Guess I need a little more
Just got as far as removal of the old transmission, so far this video has been extremely helpful and to the point.
Many thanks
Glad it helped.
@@mackenzierough I'll let you know how the reassembling went when I get to it!
Thank you, good luck.
@@mackenzierough I got her back together tonight.
I note at the end of your video you mention leaving the mower stand 24hours.
I didnt do this and I've got no decent drive.
It'll turn wheels if I lift rear or assist if i push the mower.
Is it to do with not letting it settle down first as it's been upside down a few days might you think.
Thanks in advance for any pointers.
Very good video thanks
@@mackenzierough Had the gears on wrong wat around.
Did over 2 hours mulching without a hiccup once that was sorted.
A 15 year old mower going like new again!
Thanks so much for the helpful informative video.
Thank you very much Garycourtt
hi, great video. I wonder if you could help me make sense of what my mower is doing.
The bottom line is that when the self propel is engaged, the wheels do not spin whether lifted off the floor or not, and this is without loads.
I feel that the cable for the drive has a little slack, however, when the mower is running and engaged, I also pull on the cable and I do not notice any movement of the wheels at all
Please help
I'm glad that my video was of help.
Took my HRX 537 out for a spin this morning and straight away noticed that it was pulling to the left. Got my spanners out and took the drive wheels, the gears and the bits and pieces apart, noticing that they were in need of a good cleaning and greasing. Put everything back together and got into a bit of a tizzy about which way the small gear went.
First attempt and the machine wouldn't propel forward. Tried again, assuming the right hand wheel, as viewed from the rear was the problem because I hadn't been using my eyes when I stripped it down.
Turned the gear round and the machine propelled forward. Sorted, I thought, but back on the grass the machine still wanted to turn anti clockwise circles. Called it a day and went for my tea, thinking perhaps the left hand gear is the wrong way round.
That was when I saw your first rate video.
I will look at my machine again on a rainy day with a view to getting it to move in a straight line but in the meantime, Mackenzie, or anyone else, I would appreciate and comments you may have on my attempts so far.
Thankyou,
Jim. West Yorks.
Hi Jim, Sounds like only one wheel is driving your mower, remove the slack one and check with my video that you have replaced all parts correctly, good luck.
+Mackenzie Rough My be of a bit of help here. IAW my manual on the HRX217, the gears that drive the rear wheels are placed as follows. The 1' gears have a center punch mark along one side. The center punch mark has to be put on the inside on the left wheel, and outside on the right wheel.
Doing this later this week. This helps much! Thanks.
Best of luck!
Honda "We make it simple"
I pulled up on transmission with both hands and had wife put belt on shaft pulley. Some jobs I wish I was a octopus.
Thank you
Hi I was wondering if any1 has an old gearbox for a HRX537 I am looking for the pin that is inside the gearbox that moves with the swivel lever thanks
I am in need of a transmission .If I may ask where are they purchased from, and the cost? The seal is leaking and the circlip slips off the drive shaft. Thank you for the fine video .May I ask is there a method of using a meatier clip?
thank you very much for your info...Very helpful
I'm glad that I was of help.
I so glad that it helped, with 7,205 views I feel that Honda have an issue with these mowers!
Or the fact that many of us like to do some research on our Honda mowers, in case trouble arises! Mine is brand new with an extended 6 yr warranty on it, but not sure if it would cover the repair cost for a leaky seal, hope to never have to find out!
Hi I bought it from LAWNMOWERPROS in America they ship worldwide and are very helpful, Part number 20001-VH7-003 cost $173.95 plus shipping
I don't no what you mean about 'Meatier Clip!
Dziękuje :)
Hi Gerald, I'm glad that my video helped, not sure what your problem is but is the mower now useable? Are you sure that you put the wheel driving gears back on the right way round? I found on mine that with the new transmission the Hydrostatic speed control had no effect but it preforms quite well, pity they can't build them the way they used to as my 25 year old Honda still works a treat! Good luck.
Belle vidéo (montage ,définition son et éclairage) de changement du boitier de traction , transmission des tondeuses Honda . Belle maitrise et calme du mécanicien qui travaille précisément et rapidement avec des explications claires. C'est beau la mécanique avec des gazouillis d'oiseaux .....aller il fait beau dans ma verte Normandie , je me lève le "cul" du fauteuil et j'attaque ce boitier de transmission sur ma HRB 476C Sxe , mais moi , sur du progressive rock ;-) . Bravo Mackenzie Rough . Une petite question : "Est-ce vous qui filmait en même temps ( plan séquence fixe) , ou vous aviez un caméraman ?" Merci
Thanks, I guess you said that the gear needs to click when going backwards. Of course the gear turns clockwise as the wheel turns counterclockwise. Great fun repairing lawnmowers, except sometimes I cant get the screws loose. Having trouble getting the bolts on the blades loose. Bought one of those hammer devices but no luck. Guess I have to take it to an auto shop with a pneumatic wrench. Regards
TO LOOSEN THE BOLTS USE HEAT TO BREAK THE RUST , BE CAREFUL NOT TO PUT THE MOWER ALIGHT . ON THE GEAR THAT YOU MAY HAVE THERE ARE PUNCH MARKS ON THEM , ON THE GEAR NEAR THE TRANNY THE PUNCH MARK GOES TOWARDS THE TRANNY , ON THE OTHER SIDE THE PUNCH MARK IS DIRECTED AWAY FROM THE TRANNY . THIS WILL PUT THE WHEELS IN THE CORREC ORBIT . YOU MAY BE ABLE TO USE A HAMMER DRILL WITH AN ADAPTER FOR THE SOCKET TO FIT ON .USE CREATIVE WORKS GOOD LUCK
@@seanrussell1569 Glad I read your comment, as I had gears on incorrectly and would never have known.
Thanks for posting!
George Hodgins sorry my farther said that he past away lately
What lubricant did you use/recommend for the wheels and spindle? I'v used lithium grease in the past. By the way, Iv got my hrx217 completely torn down thanks to your video! Just need to put it back together.
Hi I'm glad that my video was of use to you, I can't remember what oil I used maybe 3 in 1 universal lubricating oil? Good luck in re-assembling your mower.
I can't get the pin to come out shown at 11:26. I have tried to oil it, etc.. it wont budge, what did you use to push it through?
Mine came out easily, try leaving the Penetrating Oil on for 10 mins and then tap lightly with a hammer and nail punch and then ease out with pointed nose pliers, good luck.
Mackenzie, Nice video-it looks like a serious piece of work-but do-able if you give it the time.I have a HRX537HXEA/HMEA as well. I need to replace some parts but don't have a parts manual.I can't find it on the Honda website-I don't suppose to have a link for a manual??Kind Regards, James in Ireland
Good morning!
Could you tell me please Qunto hydraulic oil should be inserted in the transmission?
Because the transmission came to me without hydraulic oil
Thank you
Greetings Alex
Sorry but I don't know as mine did not need oil it was sealed, maybe there is a Honda site that will tell you? Good luck
The spring washers always go on behind a wheel....
job well done. has the mower done much work to have a new transmission how old.
The mower has now been working fine for five years on a large lawn
iv been working with honda for the last 8 years hate the sight of em there such a pain to even replace a drive cable or drive belt.
castel garden all the way replace a drive belt in 3mins in a cg.
Yes a very bad design, my drive belt has now come off and I don't think that I can be bothered to replace it!
Hi Donagh,
I bought a CD rom manual on ebay, but can't find it on ebay now so I will try and find my one tomorrow and you can buy that off me if you like, Kind regards, Ian.
Good job. In the first scenes we can see a Honda Transmision Sheet. Do you remember where you got it? It would be very useful to obtain it myself. Kind regards David.
Thanks David, I'm sorry but it was so long ago I can't remember what site I downloaded the sheet from! I just Googled it, try it good luck.
Hi there, delighted to find your video. My m/c is HRX 537 type HXE. Guys in Lawnmowerpros do not recognise the type. Is there an American equivalent? Would like to be sure before spending the $173.95!
Would appreciate your help.
Paul O'L (Waterford)
Nice video. Am having trouble with the rear wheel gear. Did you say the rear wheels should click going backwards. The clockwise is misleading. On the other side it is counter clockwise. Thanks.
+irandar Yes so if you are pushing the mower forwards the wheels should 'click'
ON YOUR GEAR THERE SHIULD BE A DIMPLE MARK ON ONE SIDE . ON THE TRANNY SIDE DIMPLE OR PUNCH MARK FACES THE TRANNY ,ON THE OTHER SIDE THE DIMPLE OR PUNCH MARK FACES AWAY FROM THE TRANAMISSION GOOD LUCK
Many thanks from Poland. Your video has fully solved my problem. I hope a good karma will return to you.
Glad it helped you.
Hello Mackenzie: Are you able to explain how to add transmission oil to the HRX537? On the mower I use the seal leaked oil, I replaced the seal . I am unable to determine the correct oil and how to add oil?
+Larry Russell
Hi Larry, I'm very sorry but I don't know that you can, good luck.
+Larry Russell Hello Larry, you should buy the honda H-HST hydrostatic oil. where did you find the replacement seals ? I can't find them anywhere
THERE ARE A FEW PLACES TO BUY THE SEALS . IN DUBLIN IRELAND THE DEALER IS M 50 ,IN THE USA IS RS . I DID NOT HAVE INSTRUCTIONS FOR ADDING AND PURGING . USE THE SEARCH FOR HONDA HRX537 , THAT SHOULD WORK.
How do get that pin out (11.30) mine is stuck fast. Great vid btw
Yes it needed a bit of effort, you could try putting some penetrating oil on it and leave it for say half an hour, good luck.
spot on this will save m,e a good chunk of cash.
Good luck.
Same here. Turns out mine had no oil in it, topped up, and away she went.
Hi James,
I have just found it on Ebay.uk search for:-"Honda HRX537 HRX 537 Workshop Manual + Owners Manual for Service Repair" It's around £9.00
Kind regards,
Ian.
Very unfortunately the workshop/service manual is no longer available.
What was the tool you used at 16:40, and the name of the part?
Hi Matt, It's a pair circlip removal pliers
What replacement gearbox did you fit? The one you're putting in is different to the old one 🤔
I'm sorry but it was so many years ago I can't remember, I just got it from a Honda marine supplier in The States!
@@mackenzierough thanks. I noticed recently that Chandler's in the USA do lawnmower parts and they're still cheaper than here in the UK so I guess it was a straightforward upgrade at a good price. Anyway, hope it worked well for a few years.
Do you have a link to buy a new transmission for hrx537, because I have that but is broken and I don’t find this.. THANKS HELP ME PLEASE… good tutorial and good job
Sorry but in that was so long ago and when I last looked for it I had no success, good luck.
@@mackenzierough thanks my friend!!
hi
i have a honda hrx 537 about 4 years but when i took it out to cut the grass this year it wont start,i notice a lot of fluid coming from the exhaust when i pull the cord,i have never replaced the air filter but i have noticed the lawnmower will start with the filter off,do i need to replace it as i have never done since i bought it and could you tell me when the filters need to be replaced.
Hi, I have a 26 year old Honda and I have never changed the filter on that just cleaned it! My 537 is around five years old, I paid €70 Euros for a service and noticed that they hadn't bothered to change or clean the filter so I just cleaned it.
any ideas what the problem might be?the mower will only start when i take the filter off.
dublinbred Sorry I don't know have you cleaned the filter?
yeah i replaced the filter and its flying again.
Great news
Mackenzie, a poster below stated "You indeed installed the 3 speed gear driven transmission non-hydro(20001-VH7-003). Glad it worked. Original transmission for that mower which has the hydro drive is part#(04200-VH7-315) as stated above."
There is a huge price difference between the two units; some $120 US.
I guess it worked for you since your post is some 8 years old. Did you indeed find that you only had 3 speeds vs. 5?
I didn't really notice as it ran much the same but I didn't a have so much control on the variable speed control lever, just ran it at full speed which I had been doing before anyway. About two years ago the main drive belt came off the pulley but I couldn't be bothered to fix it as it needed to be taken apart again! I'm not very impressed with this expensive mower. I have an old Honda mower that still works fine after 30 years!!!
@@mackenzierough Thank you. I kind agree; the HRX line is over-engineered imo. When you say "ran it at full speed which I had been doing before anyway," do you mean you previously ran it all the way up on the 5 speed? That speed for me (average man) was way too fast, I usually ran it about a notch above halfway for a comfortable pace. Was "full speed for you" on the replacement transmission comfortable or more of a sprint?
To be quiet honest it was such a long time ago I'm not sure if I ran it at full speed when new but after replacing the transmission full speed was a comfortable speed.
Hi, Now that is interesting as I did contact your company by email and was told that you could NOT confirm that the part was suitable for European models, a pity as your price was much better, hopefully you will now get some business from my video and send me some commission.
Kind regards,
Ian Rough.
YOUR VIDEO WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL . I AM UNABLE TO GET THE MANUAL FOR REPAIR . MAY I ASK THAT YOU BURB A COPY AND MAIL IT TO ME SELF PLEASE . I WILL PAY THE EXPENSE OF DOING SO . THE MANUAL WILL BE SO HELPFUL.
Here is a link for the manual :- www.docs-engine.com/pdf/1/honda-lawn-mower-workshop-manual-hrx537.html
This shit takes more time than to change the pistons into a V8 car engine. I fix all kind of engines and garden tools and the only thing that i hate is to replace/fix the transmision to lawnmowers...
Correct!
great video, very informative, but a lot of time and money could have been saved by, replacing the 2 drive shaft oil seals, 50p each, topping up the gearbox with hydrolic oil, then bleeding the system
Hello. Can you explain to me how to bleeding the system, cause even topping up with hydrolic oil, it doesn't work. thank you. ( the 2 drive shaft oils seals are ok).
Nicolas Dzimira Sorry but I'm not a mechanic and have no idea.
Nicolas Dzimira to top up the hydrolic oil, put the machine on its side air filter up, on the gear box you will see 2 drain/filler plugs,
un screw the upper 1 using an allen key top up oil then rotate the rear wheel which is in the air, this will bring the air bubbles to the top repeat as nessasery
where can I buy this spare part for honda hrx 537?
Hi I bought it from LAWNMOWERPROS in America they ship worldwide and are very helpful, Part number 20001-VH7-003 cost $173.95 plus shipping. www.lawnmowerpros.com
Good luck.
I just checked their site but sadly it says that the part is no longer available!
Found it on this site:- www.jungle-busters.co.uk/epages/es122164.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=59966652
Hi
What difference does it have from this?
www.jungle-busters.co.uk/Honda-HRX537-HXE-Gearbox-Transmission-Hydro
@@alexscaramella5406 I think it is the same, check with the seller, very expensive now I only paid about 160 dollars in 2012
you put the wrong washer on the rebuild, you put a spring washer on and then a snap ring, Wrong...
at 15:42 you put wave washer wrong
Sorry but no one is perfect and it has some 10 years for someone to spot that mistake, hopefully other people will see your post, thank you.