I have the wobble on two of my maxxis tires. DHF and Assegai. Both mounted on the front. I unseated and reseated them several times and gave up. I even put dish soap in the bead and it did help a little. I suspect that it is a seating problem, but it really doesn't change my ride...I can't feel it...only see it when I look down at the front tires. One day Ill try to reseat them again.
A wheelset that is a full kilogram lighter will be about a little less than 1% faster on a climb. zero percent faster on flats and downhills. But then you have to do the math on rotational inertia which makes zero percent difference until you do a 1,000 watt acceleration from a stand still then it costs an extra one watt or so.
A full kilogram lighter should save a lighter ish rider about 2% on the climb. Multiply that by 4 or 5kg saved by going proper weight weenie and you’ll be going way faster!
The rotational mass will be greater than the 1kg saving, so less energy to maintain the same speed on flats and less energy on climbing, so not necessarily hugely faster, but on a longer ride, less tiring and therefore able to maintain speeds and travel further. Just my experience, I ride bout 4000kms a year on mountain bikes. Having said all that, tyre / tire choice is as important as wheel weight.
@@shaun1900 the rotational mass only matters marginally more as the faster acceleration is necessarily canceled about by faster deceleration. It does still matter marginally more then normally weight but the weight savings account for the vast majority of difference. Fast acceleration does feel good though! (PS rotating mass doesn’t reduce energy needed on the flats)
They are very close but I have been liking the T2 more than my C3. But it might be a placebo because I love the looks of the T2. And I have always said if you love the looks of your bike it will be even more fun to ride.
Thats what they claim but I haven’t ridden the version without the carbon spokes. I know they drop weight. I think it would be interesting to ride both carbon spokes and metal spokes with the same setup to see if you can feel a difference.
Should have just spent a bit more up front and bought a carbon XC bike - such as. Canyon Exceed. These wheels are just generic Chinese-manufactured wheels, not great quality. As for setting a PR on a course you have been riding all summer, I'd think improved fitness would be a bigger contributor to that PR than just the wheels.
Yes they are built in Taiwan but they are developed and tested in the UK. Taiwan is where most highend bike manufacturers have their products produced. I agree fitness improvements can help however tested my other bike that same week as this one. A lot of factors can come into play but we can only go with what we have. Definitely not scientific but more of a personal real world test that I can go off of.
@@RunBikeMike fair enough re: the fitness piece; I ride 6000 km a year on my mountain bike(s), and tweaks to food, hydration, tyre pressure, even the wind speed and time of day add up to marginal gains and losses, amongst many other denominators. However, these wheels are NOT in the same league as, say, DT Swiss, which will last you a lifetime. The forums are littered with unhappy Hunt customers; these rims are spat out of a factory that makes other low-end rims. Just because something is made in the same country where high-end manufacturers get their product, it means nothing.
Never ran a maxxis, but appreciate that super honest callout.
Marin is sweet👍 I watched all your wheel videos chose Hunt XC race for my Epic HT. Shaved over a pound & love them.
Those carbon look amazing!
The Hunt XC race is such an amazing deal. Those wheels are sooooo good. Have fun with them.
I have the wobble on two of my maxxis tires. DHF and Assegai. Both mounted on the front. I unseated and reseated them several times and gave up. I even put dish soap in the bead and it did help a little. I suspect that it is a seating problem, but it really doesn't change my ride...I can't feel it...only see it when I look down at the front tires. One day Ill try to reseat them again.
I also tried to reseat them with no luck. I wonder why maxxis tires have this issue.
I have had maxxis tyres with that wobble too
Which hub did you get with the xc race?
Been running aspen rear & the new forekaster up front. Very nice combo. Not as noticeable wobble as you’re saying.
Try the Pirelli Scorpion XC H, they blow the Aspen tires away and are same weight
What tires would you upgrade too?
I really like schwalbe nobby nic for tails bikes and Schwalbe Racing Ralph Evo for XC
how do you like the rekon race F+R ? Tthinking about this setup for just average trail riding
I like them over all but my bike tire already is warped and it doesn’t have very many miles on it. I would avoid maxxis if you can.
Lets GOOOOOOO!!
A wheelset that is a full kilogram lighter will be about a little less than 1% faster on a climb. zero percent faster on flats and downhills. But then you have to do the math on rotational inertia which makes zero percent difference until you do a 1,000 watt acceleration from a stand still then it costs an extra one watt or so.
Now that is some serious mathing right there. 😳
A full kilogram lighter should save a lighter ish rider about 2% on the climb. Multiply that by 4 or 5kg saved by going proper weight weenie and you’ll be going way faster!
The rotational mass will be greater than the 1kg saving, so less energy to maintain the same speed on flats and less energy on climbing, so not necessarily hugely faster, but on a longer ride, less tiring and therefore able to maintain speeds and travel further. Just my experience, I ride bout 4000kms a year on mountain bikes.
Having said all that, tyre / tire choice is as important as wheel weight.
@@shaun1900 the rotational mass only matters marginally more as the faster acceleration is necessarily canceled about by faster deceleration. It does still matter marginally more then normally weight but the weight savings account for the vast majority of difference. Fast acceleration does feel good though! (PS rotating mass doesn’t reduce energy needed on the flats)
@@oliverjacobs8594 well my 6000k's a year on my XC bike up to 100k's per ride, I know how my set up works for me.
I have a c5. I want to get a team 2. Does the team 2 ride better?
They are very close but I have been liking the T2 more than my C3. But it might be a placebo because I love the looks of the T2. And I have always said if you love the looks of your bike it will be even more fun to ride.
@@RunBikeMike thanks for the info Mike. I thought my c5 felt great. Awesome getting to hear it from someone that has both
Do the carbon spokes make the wheel feel stiff?
Thats what they claim but I haven’t ridden the version without the carbon spokes. I know they drop weight. I think it would be interesting to ride both carbon spokes and metal spokes with the same setup to see if you can feel a difference.
Your next upgrade is tires that don’t wobble.
For real 😆
But the cassette is so heavy!
659grams.
Changed ours to a Sunrace alloy(last 3 cogs)
I’ve eaten so much crap with these tires sliding on me. My gravel tires have more grip
Dang, I'd like a $400 discount on the currently priced $1,899...
Next video Sid sl install
SRAM box at 5:38 😉
Stop winning…kthx
@@fitforlife_mike 😂🤣
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Should have just spent a bit more up front and bought a carbon XC bike - such as. Canyon Exceed. These wheels are just generic Chinese-manufactured wheels, not great quality.
As for setting a PR on a course you have been riding all summer, I'd think improved fitness would be a bigger contributor to that PR than just the wheels.
Yes they are built in Taiwan but they are developed and tested in the UK. Taiwan is where most highend bike manufacturers have their products produced.
I agree fitness improvements can help however tested my other bike that same week as this one. A lot of factors can come into play but we can only go with what we have. Definitely not scientific but more of a personal real world test that I can go off of.
@@RunBikeMike fair enough re: the fitness piece; I ride 6000 km a year on my mountain bike(s), and tweaks to food, hydration, tyre pressure, even the wind speed and time of day add up to marginal gains and losses, amongst many other denominators.
However, these wheels are NOT in the same league as, say, DT Swiss, which will last you a lifetime.
The forums are littered with unhappy Hunt customers; these rims are spat out of a factory that makes other low-end rims. Just because something is made in the same country where high-end manufacturers get their product, it means nothing.