Ty Gato. Would love to see some more vids like this. Im trying to understand how the FK8 is tuned and what its restrictions are. Just a few more weeks untill i get my FK8. Planning on slightly modifying it so im looking for as much info as possible!
Does Ktuner recommend upgrading to CAI, better Intercooler, better downpipe, remove of CATs and better Spark plugs? It would be nice for Ktuner to offer a Hardware & Software turnkey system.
Hi, great video. Sorry new to Type R. Just bought my 19 civic type r over the weekend. Quick question... can you tune stage 0 or 1 without doing any physical mod on the car? Does it work? Thank you.
Awesome video mate! really well done. However I was looking for more answers such as, what this will do in terms of wear in the future. What can go wrong if done incorrectly? who's liable? what can you do? And also if you can revert to stock, would "they" know, or have specialized equipment to check up on this, if I bring it in for a.. "checkup" lol
@@FlyinGato but what if we have simple bolt ons like exhaust, intake, downpipe? When I had a stang, the tuner asked for mods. Also, you're saying that we can do stage 0 and 1 and gain 50+ hp just with the tune alone?
Can innovative unlock your ecu since they made the tune for Ktuner? or do you have to send the ecu to ktuner. I live in jersey so id rather drive 2 hours then have my car without an ecu for 2-5 days
Do you have to change the fuel pump with the CTR for Stage 1 or stage 2? Back in the days when I owned a 2004 STi, you had to change the fuel pump to walbro 255 when you went stage 2. How strong is the clutch with all the added torque?
depends how much stock internals can handle, you can overtune it and put too much strain on the engine and turbo. however the K20C is first of all, its Honda. quality engine. and its forged.
it'll be around 750 including the unlocking of the ECU, and it'll include those first two tunes, and any future developments that Ktuner will be coming out with
FlyinGato How would I communicate to my local auto shop that I want a stage 1 tune? I’m a little scared to ask if they can actually do a tune. Is it any hard?
I sent you a private message. We are pretty local and am looking to get involved in some car club stuff etc. If you have time hit me back. Keep up the good work.
You guys might find this video interesting, M2 vs Civic R. The R is certainly holding it's own. No doubt bang for the buck, 20K difference...th-cam.com/video/6cJBw_Tr8M4/w-d-xo.html
Only the screen, honestly, unless you really want that seperate screen, go V1.2, you can use your android phone for tuner view, or if you want to root your headunit, you can use that
Please. Tell me the exact name of that music at the beginning of this video. You said it is by Joakim Karud but I tried to use Shazam and I could not get the name of the song. You also used this music on your review of the 2017 Civic Si. I'm finding it very catchy for some reason.
if you're going to track it on a hot day yes, otherwise, like he said, if you just use it to go to work or on the weekends, it's all good. I'm going to look into that PRL intercooler soon...
Gato, I would actually look into a radiator or supplemental fan for the stage 1on the track. Simple math-- if you increase the power by 15% then you increased the heat load by 15% and likely more because you probably took the efficiency of the motor down some. Saw an internet video that was questioning the Type R's cooling. I remember one thing was broken yet that doesn't change the fact you increased the heat load by 15%. The turbo is just falling on it's face because greater boost is more heat and thinner air but that isn't going to hurt you like real hot coolant and much thinner oil. Gotta pay to play!!!
If stage 0 is safe, and adds a big chunk of horsepower, I wonder why Honda doesn't just throw it in the production Type R to begin with? There must be a downside,..like increased wear? Or maybe the drive train wasn't designed to handle the extra power?
well...do you think there's any way to lean it out to make emissions while still increasing power? I'm hoping it's not too hard, unless this civic has modded parts, especially if the exhaust has changed in any way.
Great video, i learned a bunch thanks for creating it.
Thanks Jason! Can't wait to see what the future brings from Ktuner and Hondata. When are you getting your Type R Experimental back?
FlyinGato End of April is the current date
Motec is another option. If you have a little deeper pockets.
This is cool , but i think id be plenty happy just rolling stock. Honda killed it with this one.
Not bad. Mid to high 300's with great driveability. Informative video man!
Happy to help! Keep up your GTR videos I like watching them :)
I hit the ‘like’ button 5 times but it only counted as one...thanks for that video FG!!!
Thanks Dave, I appreciate it!
Nowayyyy!! Now im super pump about Ktuning my CTR , now i cant wait 😅😂 nice HondaProJason on you channel
Yea we've actually met, we talked about the Type R on my channel last year
Good video, had some good info for the 10gen community.
Ty Gato. Would love to see some more vids like this. Im trying to understand how the FK8 is tuned and what its restrictions are. Just a few more weeks untill i get my FK8. Planning on slightly modifying it so im looking for as much info as possible!
I have so much more info to share, trust me, many videos to come 😁😁😁
FlyinGato awesome! cant wait to see what else is coming!
Thanks Gato for keeping us current in the type R world. If only I could find one that doesn't take a second mortgage to buy. 😞
You should be able to get them closer to MSRP by now
Unfortunately, most dealers still have a 5k ADM.
Man that sucks, I hope you find one soon man
Unless you live in California, like me. They’re all $15k ADM. cheapest I’ve found was $8,000, but they don’t have the car on the lot.
Got mine back in December for 6K over MSRP. I'm in Northern California, SF Bay Area. I guess it was a better deal than I thought.
Does Ktuner recommend upgrading to CAI, better Intercooler, better downpipe, remove of CATs and better Spark plugs?
It would be nice for Ktuner to offer a Hardware & Software turnkey system.
That's a good idea, but I think they are leaving the packages to the tuners. Generally a bigger interview is recommended
Nice stuff gato!!!!!
😁😁😁
Hi, great video. Sorry new to Type R. Just bought my 19 civic type r over the weekend. Quick question... can you tune stage 0 or 1 without doing any physical mod on the car? Does it work? Thank you.
You definitely can, you get great gains even from a stock car
@@FlyinGato Thank you for your reply. Will take a look what i can do to gain some hp with stock setting. :)
FlyinGato but is it safe? Will my engine blow ?
Awesome video mate! really well done. However I was looking for more answers such as, what this will do in terms of wear in the future. What can go wrong if done incorrectly? who's liable? what can you do? And also if you can revert to stock, would "they" know, or have specialized equipment to check up on this, if I bring it in for a.. "checkup" lol
they won't know :)
I learned heaps! But i have a question,
If i do a stage 0 tune what upgrades should i have to my type R?
None, go in stock!
@@FlyinGato but what if we have simple bolt ons like exhaust, intake, downpipe? When I had a stang, the tuner asked for mods. Also, you're saying that we can do stage 0 and 1 and gain 50+ hp just with the tune alone?
You should make a video about anti lag/ 2 step. Is it safe to run on these motors/ turbo setups. And is there a tune available that provides this?
Video in progress for this but long story short, it's not safe on these cars
Can innovative unlock your ecu since they made the tune for Ktuner? or do you have to send the ecu to ktuner. I live in jersey so id rather drive 2 hours then have my car without an ecu for 2-5 days
Do you have to change the fuel pump with the CTR for Stage 1 or stage 2? Back in the days when I owned a 2004 STi, you had to change the fuel pump to walbro 255 when you went stage 2.
How strong is the clutch with all the added torque?
stage 1 is fine with the fuel pump, stage 2 will likely require a fuel pump upgrade. As for the clutch, it seems to be pretty strong
What did that R have installed, or was it all stock?
Welcome to my neck of the woods :-)
It's so far! lol
thanks man that helps a lot，but i still has one last question, so is ktune better than flashpro or similar?
they are similar
Is there stage 0/1 etc for sport hatch?
There is
I always thought tuning a car would get u 20 hp max but now i see that u can get alot more and how do the stages affect the fuel economy of the car?
I'll have to test that too be sure, not it shouldn't be much worse, unless of course so you do is go nuts lol
On turbo cars, you can more a lot of power with tuning and bolt ons.
depends how much stock internals can handle, you can overtune it and put too much strain on the engine and turbo. however the K20C is first of all, its Honda. quality engine. and its forged.
Roughly what's the price tag on ktuner tune with stage 0 and stage 1 flash on comfort and R mode? Thanks!
it'll be around 750 including the unlocking of the ECU, and it'll include those first two tunes, and any future developments that Ktuner will be coming out with
Total noob here, what cooling system would be upgraded first to combat rising IAT with the stage 1 tune?
Intercooler, I recommend PRL or mishimoto
FlyinGato How would I communicate to my local auto shop that I want a stage 1 tune? I’m a little scared to ask if they can actually do a tune. Is it any hard?
Hi
Did you have to have your ECU unlocked before you could flash the ECU??
I did, it was a fast process
FlyinGato How did you do it?
I will subscribe thanks
Did you have a problem no being able to switch into comfort or r mode after tuning it?
I didn't
It's only letting me in sport mode.
that's odd, is there an error code?
No it just say mode change is not available
What are the differences between hondata and ktuner? Im considering tunning my ctr
Get the Ktuner, they both do the same thing, Ktuner is more defecated to the 10th gen
I have the kruner v1.2 but it wont lock to the ecu it fails to keep a connection it only flashes red green.any ideas?what usb voltage is needed
Not sure about the 1.2, send an email to info@ktuner.com, excellent customer service
FlyinGato i already annoyed them and i can tell they are...i expleined to them...they want me to send it in.to them..
No it sounds like a problem I had, I also sent it back to them, was a quick fix
What you do to your car bro? I saw your ride in the shop in Hackettstown?
It's getting a new trans, I pick it up tomorrow.
I sent you a private message. We are pretty local and am looking to get involved in some car club stuff etc. If you have time hit me back. Keep up the good work.
You guys might find this video interesting, M2 vs Civic R. The R is certainly holding it's own. No doubt bang for the buck, 20K difference...th-cam.com/video/6cJBw_Tr8M4/w-d-xo.html
Can they tune an 18 si so theres no rev hang? That shits annoying
Sucks the typeR is my daily so I definitely can’t send my ecu out 😢when will the flash be available??
They're working on it, but there's no way of knowing, they are using computers to try and crack the stock Bosch encryption
FlyinGato thanks. Also what is the difference between flashtunerV1.2 and V2???
Only the screen, honestly, unless you really want that seperate screen, go V1.2, you can use your android phone for tuner view, or if you want to root your headunit, you can use that
FlyinGato Yeah rather save that $200 for a downpipe or something. Thank you!!
How about rent a cheap sub compact econo car while your ecu is being hacked?
Will the stock clutch be able to handle the stage 1 tune?
Yup been handling it perfectly
Please. Tell me the exact name of that music at the beginning of this video. You said it is by Joakim Karud but I tried to use Shazam and I could not get the name of the song. You also used this music on your review of the 2017 Civic Si. I'm finding it very catchy for some reason.
It's VERY catchy, it's called Celebrate by Joakim Karud
Thank You so much. Love your vids bro. I drive a 2014 Civic Si. I'm dieing to drive the Type R. Don't have the $$ though 😂
So basically need a new intercooler if you are going for stage 1 tune ?
if you're going to track it on a hot day yes, otherwise, like he said, if you just use it to go to work or on the weekends, it's all good. I'm going to look into that PRL intercooler soon...
Gato, I would actually look into a radiator or supplemental fan for the stage 1on the track. Simple math-- if you increase the power by 15% then you increased the heat load by 15% and likely more because you probably took the efficiency of the motor down some. Saw an internet video that was questioning the Type R's cooling. I remember one thing was broken yet that doesn't change the fact you increased the heat load by 15%. The turbo is just falling on it's face because greater boost is more heat and thinner air but that isn't going to hurt you like real hot coolant and much thinner oil. Gotta pay to play!!!
I'll definitely be monitoring that as well, I'm starting out with the stage 0 tune
If stage 0 is safe, and adds a big chunk of horsepower, I wonder why Honda doesn't just throw it in the production Type R to begin with? There must be a downside,..like increased wear? Or maybe the drive train wasn't designed to handle the extra power?
Emissions, stage 0 increases fuel, makes it less lean, but makes it safe
well...do you think there's any way to lean it out to make emissions while still increasing power? I'm hoping it's not too hard, unless this civic has modded parts, especially if the exhaust has changed in any way.
Stage 2
Would you need to send your ECU to Ktuner?
Devon Nguyen yep
I thought you were going to see Johnny Honda Civic type r because he is timing with ktuner also rn
He is jonnyshonda on ig
I know Johnny, he's actually tuning with Hondata, which is good as well, can't wait to see what they have to offer!
Any tuner shop around levittown pa that you recommend?
Innovative isn't too far from you I think
By the way, does this void warranty, or pass safety inspection? Also can a 245/35/20 be a perfect fit? Just want to have a thicker tires
How is the clutch with 350lbft?
Perfectly fine to be honest
is custom tune needed with this for bolt ons mods??
At the moment yes, but I'm sure there will be base maps with common upgrades, like intake, downpipe and intercooler for example
thanks for quick reply... that what i was thinking.. pro give it a month or two yet to see if that happens
Gato what are basically the gains by stage 0 and 1
It's in the video but stage 0 is +20whp +35wtq, stage 1 is +50whp +65wtq
Stage 0 sounds good for now it's gonna be around 340 whp 😎
Have you considered running this car on e85 ?
yea, it would be expensive to do so , and there is no solution yet.
Did you even watch the video?
Was this on 91 or 93 octane??
93
im assuming this voids warranty?!
remap back to stock and hope the dealer doesn't notice, otherwise yes
Why not hondata? I still between the 2!
J
Ktuner is best for the 10thgen Civic and new Accord
+R mode = Stage 2
All this talk about power....
What if the factory tune prevents carbon build up but the aftermarket tune promotes it?
carbon build up will likely be a maintenance item in the future, 400 bucks every 60000 miles should do it.
Havent seen one of these on the road maybe because its one ugly 40k car.
The car looks amazing (inside and out). Believe me, the car doesn't want to see you.