Best Swiss Entry-Level Luxury Diver? Oris Aquis Cal. 400 VS Longines Hydroconquest
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2021
- Oris and Longines are proud Swiss brands with amazing heritage and their own takes on both vintage inspired and modern dive watches. In this video I compare the new Oris Aquis Date Caliber 400 with the Longines Hydroconquest ceramic.
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I prefer the Longines. Even with the modified ETA movement, it's still much slimmer and has similar performance to watches three times its price. I appreciate the overall aesthetic too. It almost looks like Longines combined a Rolex Submariner with an Explorer.
And longines vs oris 41mm?
Oris has mutch better movement with 28.200bpm unlike longines at 25.400bpm . Also Oris calibre 400 already is an entry luxury Swiss watch for future investment as collectable watch . ORIS calibre 400 seems mutch more premium watch at the rist.
It looks like the Breitling Superocean
Yes, the Longines looks like it was designed by a committee to evoke the watches you mentioned but without and identity of their own. Oris isn’t copying anyone, it’s a bold original design.
Great comparison. I’ve had both on my shortlist to look at. I think you’ve answered my question on which to get.
I contemplated both watches. I chose the Longines Hydroconquest with 41mm Rubber strap. I love the looks, I felt it was a better value than the Oris. The Oris requires a special tool to remove the band. The biggest controversy with the Oris Inhouse Movement is the minute hand jump when you set the time. Eventhough the Longines Movement is a modified ETA 2892, Calibre 888, it's very accurate, they slowed down the movement to 25200 beats per hour, it's consistent and reliable with 64 hour power reserve. The Oris has an impressive movement with 5 days power reserve, but days 4 and 5 have a big drop-off. At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference. For me, Longines Hydroconquest was a slam dunk and I like it as much as my Rolex!
Oris doesnt require any tool to change between straps and bracelet however you can only use Oris straps. The jumping minutes hand on the movement has been explained, and its an easy fix.
Great review, thanks!
Longines looks classier.
No it doesn’t
Nope
Your right
@@davidwells3766 yes it does
Great video, very interesting & very informative.
Excellent review. I always wondered why the Oris was priced higher and now I understand. However I personally think the Longines looks better on your wrist. The blue is gorgeous and the larger tapered lugs have a more powerful presence. I totally understand why you own both.
Thank you! They are two quite different watches both with design and size/how they wear and of course colour.
i have the cal 400 original in blue and the longines hydro in 43 - love them both
Both are great looking watches with solid movements.
I'd pick the Longines just because the asking price for Oris is ridiculous. With that money I'd just get a Tudor Black Bay 58. Now that would be a good comparison, Oris caliber 400 and Tudor BB58.
The Oris is almost 3 times the price of the Hydroconquest so not really a fair comparison you are correct
the bb58 would destroy the aquis 400, no competition
@@steelsteez6118 discuss. why do you prefer the BB? I own both, i cannot see this difference. The Pelagos is way better, not the BB.
Picked the Oris …Twice. Both previous generation Sellita Aquis. The Tungsten bezel grey dial orange and the all black PVD yellow both under $1k a few years ago.
Longines on the wrist looks like the more expensive watch. There is something about the Oris, the Logo, the more simple shape, less micro details, the typography that makes it look like a cheaper watch overall.
(designers insight)
Excelente video 😀.
Both are great looking watches.
i came so close to buying the longines hydroconquest in grey, but i bought a breitling super ocean instead. both are great. i own a sellita based aquis too.
Funny I was going too do the same and get a superocean 44 on rubber. Decided on the longines.
Honestly even if they worth both priced the same I’d still go with longines
I wish they make this Longines with 46-47 lug to lug and 20mm lugs it will be great. Both Oris and Longines are imo best swiss brands for the price.
Exactly! It is such a gorgeous elegant piece. But the size makes it kind of weird and is also the reason why I have sold mine.
Tudor bb58 > both of these
@@Speed_7545 bb58 is my grail watch that maybe ill never have but it cost more than twice than Aquis and 3x more than Longines so it should be better!
@@Speed_7545 Price difference so I would hope so.
@@mrbacchus6127 Calibre 400 cost about the same so what difference?
just got the aquis date relief with antracite dial. it's 43.5mm and has the sw200 movement, but as you mentioned the style and quality are greater than the price.
Price differences aside, I see the Oris as more for me. I just prefer the looks. Thanks for the review.
I love Oris if the dial colour is deep blue.
The Oris is nice but what's going on with that weird Lug setup ? You can not put that watch on a regular Nato , rubber or leather strap. That immediately disqualifies it for me. I never buy watches with proprietary lugs. I would choose the Longines. Good video. Thanks.
These are not entry level. Tissot, Hamilton, Mido, Certina would be more entry level. These are a step or two above.
Great review thank you! To me, there always been something about the font on Oris it looks plain/dull/boring in a way cheap. Still a great brand but just not a fan of that plus the hands on the Oris are meh. To me, the Longines looks more elegant.
I had the Longines but sold it on, great watch but I couldn't love it. The crown was bloody awkward to grip, 2mm too big in diameter for my smaller wrist and I learned to hate polished centre links, scratched so so so easily....still I really respect it very well built and a great all rounder.
Well i did the same thing last yr with a blue dial ceramic in bracelet. I did just purchase the longines again bit black dial on rubber strap. I love it on the rubber.
The polished bracelet is easily remedied by using a skuff pad. Diy brushed finish and say goodbye to scratches
@@ZeginMakesMusic great shout!... I have done this before on cheaper watches I just would feel weird doing it on a nice Swiss piece, maybe that's just me 😁 but I'll grow some balls I if I end up coming by another one 🙂👍
Does the longines has a better resale value than the oris ?
Funny enough, longines is SUPER popular in asia, where most people have tiny wrist. But Longines keep insisting on making watches with 50+ lug to lug which makes them never viable for people with smaller wrist
I prefer the numberless dial and the date on the bottom compared to longines. Having the numbers on the dial and bezel is too busy for me.
Oris hands down. They always feel more solid in construction and have better execution. Longines also has a stodgy, stuffy air around it while Oris feels modern and less pretentious.
Both different but both lovely but if I was only to purchase one I'd definitely go for the aquis. Great comparison vid 👍
I love longines 💯👌
Is the longines bracelet polished ? What's the link for that watch?
I considered these as well as some others last year but decided to spend a little more and bought the Tudor bb58 in my opinion the best bang for buck in the lower price category.
100% agreed, worth the extra over these two all things considered. Saving up for the blue bay 58.
A great watch, I was considering the 58 but in the end went Seamaster. Maybe someday I'll get the 58 too
@@mrbacchus6127
Only today I went to inquire about a submariner and ended up looking at a black seamaster, cracking piece and much easier to get your hands on. 👍
Longines. Far superior movement it has. Especially now with the silicon balance spring.
természetesen a Longines
Fake news.
I'd say they're about equal.
Both are very pretty w/o being pretentious looking.
Prefer the look of the hydro, purchased a brand new hydroconquest for $1100 blue w rubber strap.
Excellent purchase 👍
Both are great watches but at different price points. From a personal perspective the Oris wins on aesthetic as the date is at six so keeps symmetry. I actually pulled the trigger on the Oris as not only is the date at six but it is at the outside of the dial and is arguably the most readable date at six watch I have. I got the blue version but it does look great in green as well.
The cal 400 is troubled though... Refresh with issues fixed coming soon probably. Value of current cal 400 will fall significantly.
Get the 733 Caliber and then there not much between the two watches on price
@@davemarsden1259 Good point, nothing wrong with the 733 so maybe a better comparison between the two.
43.5 calibre 400 green color 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Longines for me !
Both great watches, but I feel the oris is slightly better made with the bracelet, the screw in links. Also the case on the oris looks like it's built like a tank! Can I ask how much they both weigh? Cheers
Im not a fan of polished links on a diver, but the Longines on rubber is stunning.
Also easy ETA based movement to service, 72hr power reserve and mine runs dead on, which is not uncommon. I believe it has a silicone escapement, which helps anti-magnetism (to my limited understanding).
The newer ones does have silicon escapement. I owned two Longines with the L888 movement and they were very accurate. Its a fantastic movement.
I paid 990 for my hydro. Worth every penny.
Excellent review. I think you're right to question the term "luxury" in relation to less expensive Swiss watches. Just because they're Swiss it doesn't make them luxury. Just as my Seiko Spring Drive would be considered luxury, I don't consider some of my watches that are about the same price as these, as luxury....unless a certain price Japanese watch is also classed as Japanese luxury if it matches these prices. It's definitely a misused term when it comes to Swiss watches in my humble opinion. To muddy the waters even more, you can get a bronze CuSn8 Cronos dive watch with the Sellita SW-200 for $289! I have the green dial version, great lume, sapphire and I took to 80m recently with no issues. I never dive deeper than 100m so can't test the 200m on the dial, then again neither of these watches are ISO certified either. I think that there's a premium put on Swiss Made that's often not deserved.
Hi Brian. Thanks for watching. I'm happy you enjoyed the video. The term "luxury" is a very hard one. For some people spending $1,000 is luxury, for others it's $100,000.
In many regards finer watches can be considered luxury as they are objects that are very overpriced and can easily be replaced by an iPhone or a more accurate $50 quartz watch.
I'm going to check out the CuSn8 Cronos. Sounds like a crazy deal.
Best regards,
Anders
@@TimeAndCrown Thanks Anders, yes, it's very good. There's a cheaper PT5000 version also, but I advise the Swiss movement!
I consider a watch to be luxury based on specs not brand or price. The Tissot Seastar 2000 rivals the Omega Planet Ocean in spec while retaining amazing finishing. That's why the TS2000 is called a luxury diver despite being only $1,025USD.
For some reason seeing "ORIS" printed plainly on the dial doesn't do anything for me. Compare that to seeing Longines above the winged hourglass, oldest logo in watchmaking, which looks and feels special. Totally a personal thing though
Used to own a Hydroconquest. Sold it because don't like the big and asymmetric numerals on the dial which make it look like a kid's toy. Another reason is the bad clasp.
I guess the identically placed numerals make the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Compressor look like a kid’s toy as well, alongside the Breitling Superocean and many other watches using the classic 6-9-12 pattern which, by the way, is perfectly symmetric with respect to the horizontal axis (did you know symmetry is relative ?). There’s no aesthetic rule stating the upper half CAN be different from the lower half, but the right half cannot be different from the left one. If you’re obsessed with symmetry you need a watch without hands and crown.
@@giusepperocchi2979 love those big numerals, but I am very old
Oris all the way!!!!
me quedo con oris aquis parai es el mejor
❤Longines
I ended up choosing neither because the Tissot Seastar 2000 Professional out-specs both of them and costs a good deal less. Neither of these watches is a good value because of the TS2000's existence.
Longines a bit dressier. Bro says oris big in dive and aviation and i gotta disagree. Oris big i dive and motorsport. I got the F1 Williams day-date, things a beast. I got the hydroconquest L888.5 which is a mod of a mod of a mod ETA so its close to in house- plus the 2892-a2 is such a top tier eta, you find it in panerais, iwc's, JLC's, etc. Not to mention the L888.5's are COSC chronometers. The aquis can come w/more unique dials, better reserve and will be an overall beast. Both comparable watches from great brands. I dont consider either "entry level" rather mid tier to higher end. Dive watches dont scale up like dress watches
HQ is the best fashion diver you can buy. Oris cal 400 plays in another league, way better than the HQ.
LONGINES 🥇
Longines superior
Longines looks better but I have an ETA movement in my Breitling and wouldn’t own another.
I must say, I find the Oris watch quite boring, and way too pricey for the name… I understand it is good quality, and independent brand, but the watch just isn’t very pretty… the dial is an interesting green, but again, not enough to buy it. Even if it was the same price as the Longines, I’m just not buying it… also, Longines needs smaller sizes too. It is a tough one… I also think perhaps the Longines skin diver / legend diver is a more aesthetically pleasing than the hydro conquest
There is a 39mm version of the hydro.
The crown guards on the longines is too big, makes it look ugly
Tissot Seastar 2000 is much better...
you just cant find better watch then this 2 in this price range.
Oris only with caoutchouc black band (looks like Hublot)
Longines unique and quality watch..love it or not...you notice quality..also the others who see it.
Both good..one more sportive..another more dressy..
the most of the comments..you have no idea about watches (because you change the price ranges) and you mention stupid examples.
just ***** its everywhere
Longines is higher quality.
Oris is better at the right price!
Oris wins if it's 40% off IMHO
I've always loved the Longines but the Aquis is next level and just the better watch.
Longines is much more famous as a luxury name brand, more people know. Oris….
No hay comparación oris es mucho mejor en calidad relación precio que longines. Calibre 400 very good. Relojería de alta gama.
To be honest it should be between Longines and Tissot Seastar 2000 for the entry level . Oris is the better, but price wise it makes sense to battle the Tissot srsly. If they nly it wasnt huge 46mm the seastar is dope.
4k for oris and it’s entry level luxury?
So you’re the ONE who paid full retail for the Oris.
This Longines looks lame. The Oris looks alright but way too expensive, considering that Seiko makes a better looking and functioning watch for a way lesser price.
It terms of looks the oris ia nice than marinemaster seiko. In terms of quaity iwoiuld say seiko a bit better.
Seiko’s not as good quality as oris
Well done Longines....made a clone of the Oris... Whats the point :(
do you find them beautiful? Me not.
Ok
Wankers choose Oris over a Hydroconquest. Men go for Longines, no questions asked.
you are so right
Hows that?
That Longines is ugly. Oris all day.
Oris on the other hand is top heavy, weird lug set up, 4k price no thanks
@@psmith2632 that's just like your opinion, man.
both are swatch product. look almost identical. longine has more history and well known. ORIS...most people will ask what brand it is if they don't know watch. you paid double to get a watch brand that no one knows.
Oris is an Independent watch brand. They are not owned by Swatch.
Both are butt ugly. The dial of the Longines actually is an insult to the science of symmetry. The case design of the Oris is a fail and the dial is so boring.
You must be fun at parties!
@@TimeAndCrown i think he talk about his face 🤣
@@TimeAndCrown a real party animal !
@@maitrehg idk I think they are both decent for their prices. But they don't even come close looks wise to a Seiko that is half the price. The quality is on the other hand like 10x higher than the Seiko.
@@antonhallergren588 It's of course a matter of taste. I find both horrible but it's just me. Seikos are infinitely prettier but their movements and their bracelets are garbage.
Oris is better.It does have in-house movements and that's count.Every other cheap ETA modified movement which use Omega,Longines or Tag Heuer or Longines are completely cheap,nasty garbage
Where as the oris has an unreliable problematic inhouse movement that breaks down, thick top heavy case and weird lug set up, 4k price tag no thanks.