FINALLY! A New Era Of Folding Phones: OnePlus Open
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So this is the brand new OnePlus Open, and I think we finally found the best design for a folding phone. Samsung’s Z-Fold feels like a tv remote (or clicker), and the Pixel Fold is awesome but doesn’t open flat. And then there is this, the OnePlus Open. It is like a regular phone when it is closed, and a thin and flat tablet when it’s open. It also happens to be lighter than the iPhone 14 pro max, rated for 1 million folds (more than double the industry average), it has some incredible software optimizations, and some really stacked specs we will get in to. The TLDR here is this is the best folding phone from a hardware perspective, but there are a few things that kind of make me
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ADDITIONAL VIDEO NOTES:
DESIGN
Lighter than iPhone 14 pro max thanks to alloys and composites instead of stainless steel
Similar dimensions
1 million fold rated
65 hinge components vs 100+ in most hinges
Dual SIM - one eSIM or dual physical sims
4805 mAh
67W wired charging
No wireless charging
No video output with USB-C
No OnePlus pen
CAMERAS
No Dolby vision on front camera
Yes on rear cameras
Tops out at 4k60
SOFTWARE
Zen mode
Single handed mode (swipe down, copied from apple)
Floating window
Smart sidebar (copied from samsung)
Spatial audio
Recents app
Show three apps split screen
Trade in any phone any condition get $200
4+5 yr software/security support
Comes with a case and charger
$1699
CORRECTION: This does have video out
So what do you think? Should Samsung and Google copy this design?
plagiarism? no no no.
Inspiration! Refinement!
I wish Samsung tried this Smaller
Design this Year. I really Want to
get a Fold but not a Candy bar. 😅
I hate it, but I'm not leaving Samsung
@@TheRealist1.Keep being samsheep. You fans will leave the best and buy Samsung because it is Samsung. Who is fooling who lol
@@TheDonchris62 you think pixel is the best? I have a 7 Pro, iPhone 14 Pro, Fold 4, and tried for the Open... Samsung is the best, they all use Android.
250.00 and 1300 for the trade in was too good to pass up.
This will push Samsung into finally waking up and innovating further. I already see quite a few Galaxy Folds out in the wild and the ZFold 6 will hopefully truly crack the market.
If Samsung manages IP68 and at least the 108MP camera from the S22 Ultra on the Z Fold 6 there would be little compromises.
Samsung is innovating behind close doors. They've been working on a ZFold with an S-Pen built in it for a few years now. They patent the Technology a few years ago.
Not sure how this could be “innovated” further when the only major gripe people have with the Z Fold is is narrow screen. How exactly is widening the screen an innovation? Alot of people prefer the narrow screens. This OnePlus does not even support a stylus, much less a DeX monitor platform. No wireless charging capability, no reverse wireless charging capability, limited water and dust resistance, and OneUI in itself is arguably the the better android implementation (Google cannot even fix the Pixel Fold stock software). OxygenOS has gone downhill ever since OnePlus decided to make more ColorOS-like. Gone are the missing simplicity of the system as a whole. People love to point out the lack of a crease but it’s easy to forget that Samsung owns the ultrathin glass trademark and everybody else with an ultrathin glass implementation is simply sourcing out from Samsung Display. In fact Samsung is encouraging the competition to buy their displays.
Samsung is just another Apple, overrated overhyped average.
@@CrossCuntyRicTHIS. Samsung is actually leading in innovations for ALL phones. Oneplus is who will be playing catch-up. Especially with the small screen being a plus for one handed use. OnePlus needs to implement some form of workable S-pen while also adding wireless charging, which in 2023 almost seems like a failure. In addition, if you're going to expect a foldable phone to be used for work, it needs to have something like a DEX mode, which is already a Samsung innovation. There is far too much missing from the OnePlus Open to even dream about passing the crown over to them for a person that uses their phone to get real work done. In fact I spent two days on the job using a OnePlus Open, and by the end of day 2 I knew that there no way I could continue without the same productivity I had become accustomed to with my Z Fold 5.
I have it and I Love it. I've had a OnePlus since the 8p Pro McLaren edition. They somehow manage to be at the top end of specs, often even raising the bar, but are Cheaper than their competitors. I won't be changing brands unless they really screw things up. I've been wanting a fold since I saw a prototype at CES, but Samsung screwed their first one up so bad, so I was Thrilled that OnePlus came out with one, and it doesn't suck, it's awesome. The settings do have options for using a pen. I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like they are making allowances for some sort of compatibility. To answer your question, I think that in typical OnePlus fashion of just doing things Right, the other brands should take note.
Not hating your video, just that I don't understand the point of wireless charger, like... it has to be plugged in anyways, it heats your phone, you need to find the spot otherwise it doesn't charge, etc
I really don't see the point. It is as easy as plugging your phone to the charger and done.
Man I'm currently using the Z Fold 5 and that Open Canvas software looks to be 10x better than my Fold's ffs 😂😂😂😂😂
Trade it in for the open 🙃
@@mzkx2677 nah I still have a use for it, but I pre-ordered the Open anyway 🤣
I bought the Z fold 5 because it wasn't as wide as a normal phone and you can actual use it one handed, but then you can unfold it to still get a big screen experience.
Yeah same, I would definitely prefer it to be a little wider, but it's wild to hear people say the skinny screen makes it "almost unusable"... Like what apps are u using where it's unusable. Only time I've ever noticed the screen effecting stuff is instagram.
I've heard a lot of people say they prefer the narrow size of the ZFold because of one hand use. I personally prefer a wilder size Foldable but I understand that everyone doesn't want a big phone.
The problem is if u have never had a folding phone and u get one like this one plus ull be so used to using it normally without opening it up and a few months down the line ull be like what's the point in having a folding phone and go back to a regular phone. Where as with having a narrow screen from Samsung in encourages u to open it.
@@TheDiamondSlayer1it just depends on hand size. My friend bought z fold. I loved the outside screen while he couldn’t bear it and he ended up selling it to me😅. I have 8.5 inch hands, so like a normal person. While he has 10.75 inch hands. He was a wide receiver in college though so that’s normal. I honestly couldn’t image using the outside screen if my hands were 2 inches bigger😂.
@@TheDiamondSlayer1keyboard
Great video as always! Been thinking about switching to a fold, but they haven't seemed fleshed out quite enough yet
I've had the Samsung flips and folds, pixel fold. Returned them all after a week of using. I've had this one for about 5 days so far and absolutely love it. It's GREAT closed and even better open. The cameras are super good. I have a pixel 8 pro as well as 15 pro ..and I don't feel slighted when using this camera. I'm not getting the battery life people are reporting, 7-8 hours of screen on time. I'm getting 5 to 6 hours, but that is fine because you can plug it in and get a massive charge in 20 minutes
The Pixel Fold with the latest Android Beta which has been out for about 10 days now allows for apps to be full screen.
Ordered one today. $800 back for my fold 4 1TB and then another $200 on top of that. No brainer. plus bud 2 pro for free!
Good luck.
That's a great deal. It seems OnePlus are pushing hard to sell this in the US, here in Europe however with no trade in & poor buying discounts makes it quite expensive. And we only get one colour choice too. So I'm unsure whether to buy at this point.
Altho to be fair, they were offering the buds free & cash off in the early bird pre-order.
Mind you having owned many OnePlus devices I'm sure you're gonna love the OP Open, enjoy 👍
Don't forget, 1,600 for 512GB of storage where the entry level ZFolds and Pixel Folds go for 1700-1800 at 256GB
It does support stylus support with the Oppo pen, the one that works with the Find N2
Actually I prefer the outer display of my Fold4. It's perfect for single-handed use.
I've had the Z Fold 4 and the Pixel Fold. For me the Pixel Fold was significantly better when using the outside display. The Z Fold is too thin and too tall, making it almost useless for me personally and I was always using the inside screen. The inverse is true on the Pixel Fold because I use the outside screen almost exclusively because the aspect ratio and size are perfect.
Not saying one is better than the other for everyone, but for me personally, I sold the Z Fold as soon as I got the Pixel Fold.
Most people hate the garbage outer aspect ratio of the Z Fold series and even less people even comprehend that the outer display is meant to be used ONE-HANDED for quick tasks.
If you're texting with two hands on the outer display, you're literally using it wrong. 🤣🤣🤣
@@SeanSiscoThin and narrow are two different things.
@@SeanSiscoso you're complaining about using a feature of a phone that was basically it's sole purpose of design? The inner screen which is the folds selling point.
@@stinkinlincoln926 I wasn't complaining and I disagree with your assertion that the inside is the "sole purpose" of the folding design. I was instead providing my use case perspective, which is that I want my folding phone to function just like a normal smart phone most of the time, but have the ability to be unfolded when I'm consuming content or want to more effectively multi task.
Your use case may be different, but don't assume everyone has the same intent.
The Open is leader and winner definitely. 🎉🎉🎉. When the global release day?
That Recents tray and Split Screen mode looks amazing 😁.
I've never been worried about the hinge going out on a foldable, very unlikely. The inner screen is what's going to have to stand the test of time. Just watched marques video on this same fold , three weeks and already pixels going out in the crease. Not looking good so far. Hopefully it's just a fluke on his handset.
Everything is better until it's not. Time will tell.
Looks very compelling! But hard to see foldables gain mainstream success at such a high price point imo
I was happy to see the downward price pressure with this one. It's still 50% more expensive than most slab phones, but that's better than 100% more expensive (as Samsung and Google priced theirs)
True! This is definitely a step in the right direction. Right approach from one plus to undercut the competition in the US
Man, i really want Oppo find smaller and cheaper approach
@@MikeOBrienMediaso without the discount it's, $1700 no wireless charging, no flex or tent mode like the pixel or Galaxy that allows you to use the outer screen even at an angle when consuming media, no IP x8 rating, huge camera bump that probably wouldn't allow wireless charging...but I do like the IR blaster slot though, people scream it has fast charging, yes so long as you have the fast charger with you and cable at all times when you need it, other wise your stuck with everyone else's charging speeds.
Bought my open woth trade in at best buy for 1300$. Which is the exact same price as an s24 ultra. I own both phones btw.
I'm actually very happy it don't have wireless charging it makes phone hit which ruins your battery it charges slow and ineffective. How hard is to plug in?
I NEVER use wireless charging even when it is there!
I'm only 15 seconds in.. but because you started your video addressing the 4 points right away, I subbed immediately:)
Great video. I just ordered my OPO, should be arriving tomorrow. What is the name brand of that kickstand you're using with the four numbs ono the corners and front?
This is an interesting device for sure. Like others, I actually like the candy bar (mostly) size of Samsung. I've gotten so used to it and it does work very well. I am hoping at some point Samsung will make it just a little wider (to silo the S Pen). OneUI is my favorite skin, so it would take some getting used to. Dex is great and OnePlus not even offering video out is very strange. Cameras - honestly they're not that big of a deal for me; Fold 5 cameras are just fine (but yes, Samsung should include better hardware at this price point). Very interesting times for sure... Wonder where Samsung will go next?
The One Plus Open speakers sound so good.
No they don't.
Asus ROG Phone 6 wipes the floor with it.
I do not like the camera bump at all, I know hasselblad is a good camera company but I don't take that many photos and the bump is huge. I also need stylus support to write notes. I was going to trade my fold5 if this was good but I'm going to stick my fold5. The hardware and software look great but the camera bump and lack of stylus support is a dealbreaker for me.
6:24 The telephoto is 64MP, the main camera is a stacked 48MP sensor. I'm not sure what sensor, but I'm pretty sure the IMX903 is a 48MP stacked sensor so it could be that.
The main sensor is a Sony LYTIA-T808 “Pixel Stacked” Main Camera with OIS. Pretty cool tech that Sony was able to pull off with the pixel stacking!
hi there,great video...i have a iphone 15 pro and im thinking to witch to this oneplus open...what do you recomend me? thanks
Cestainly an impressive device, ive had mine foe a couple of days now. And its been my favourite foldable (had Galaxy Fold 4, and Pixel Fold before) Although I love the build quality of the pixel. The lack of crease really makes the inside feel tablet like. This seems to have a brilliant camera array as well, even 10x zoom looking sharp. I cant say i miss the omission of wireless charging, most phones ive owned have it, but never used it. The gaat charging on this is very welcome!
What stand did you have when you were doing the oneplus open?
Does it have hdmi output and desktop mode?
This guy says it doesn't but other reviewers say it does. These reviews are all over the place
It has actually...this dude is wrong
Yes it does. I hook up for gaming through projectors all the time. And my movies too.
Great video! And really great phone. I got to play with it here in Finland when I went to OnePlus event that was open for everyone. There were about 100 of us there and everyone wanted to test the phones after livestream from OnePlus from India. I really liked everything but the price. I wish I had the money to buy OnePlus Open.
Whenever they talk about the durability, they bring up the hinge. The hinge isn't what I'm worried about on these phones anymore. The reason I don't own this exact phone is because I'm worried about the dead pixels on the inside screen and the pain in the ass it is to get it fixed anywhere.
Wow you have it on announcement day! Very impressive 👏
Awesome review, hello from Montgomery County!
Great review u actually deserve more subscribers
They brought the alert slider back? It was only missing on the 10T. Furthermore, that was only to make room for the advanced battery charging technology. There wasn't room inside the phone for both. The alert slider was present for the 11 which is easily one of the best smartphones of the year. Once more, I've been using the 11 since February and I absolutely love it. In fact, that's the main reason why I probably will not be purchasing the Open. Frankly, it looks like the best foldable I've seen yet.
I am a fan of the multitasking features
I mean of course, this is how it was meant to be done!!!
It is buggy tho. but that's on oneplus. I really hope samsung adopts this
I have seen a video with the Oneplus open using a stylus
Wireless charging is not a drawback. Most of us don't use it as long as we have our fast chargers
As a daily wireless charging user, it’s the one feature that has kept me from purchasing the One+ Open.
hey bro, been waiting on your Pixel Watch 2 review. Any plans for that? Thanks man!
Oh yeah, he's tough, Ben checked 😂
PS getting a free earbuds included too with the phone for just 285 bucks and my trading for my fold 4 of 1, 250 That's how much they took for my trading for this phone. Better offer than any other place will offer me for this old phone
Y is it difficult to understand for other foldable s that we need a normal outer screen size like a regular phone...n then inner screen will a brownie point
its says trade in any phone any condition but when you actually go through it, you still have to pick from the list of eligible devices and the older the device and condition, the less money so its nothing new and is the same old trade in they have been doing.
6:01 lmao ... This may be the first smartphone that features *light bulb blackout* during its camera auto focus
One plus open, Xiaomi Mix fold 3, and Honor Magic and perhaps pixel fold have better designs, however z fold 5 has better software and features. Next year I predict the z fold 6 ultra will take the crown as best Foldable of all time.
Should check out again about video out feature. Other reviews shows it working
What's the wallpaper your're using, it looks sick
One thing I think all foldables need to copy from Samsung is the different Outside and inside display layouts. It's why I can't get too excited about the Pixel Fold or any other Fold because all they do is take 2 pages on the home screen and turn that into 1 screen for the inside display. Where the Z Fold makes the outside home screen and inside home screen completely different as if each one is it's own phone. I love that. So honestly until the other foldables do that, I probably won't ever touch any of them except the Z Fold...and even then, I've had the 3 and 4 and can't stand the narrow outside display.
Samsung has demonstrated since the first live demo of the 1st gen Galaxy Fold that the outer display is meant to be used ONE-HANDED for quick tasks.
Nothing more.
That's why it's narrow like a TV remote.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Yes I know. and that's it's downside as many many people don't like it. Most people two hand not one hand.
I don't like like it myself like many others. Just way to skinny. But again glad we have choices. I still like the pixel fold form factor the best. But the downside to the pixel. To heavy.
I trade my fold 4 for this phone and I'm getting it next week and I only spent 258 😅😅 and I got a 1250 for trading for this phone. Best buy Amazon whatever place you do your trading. You only will get at least $1,000 if it was a brand new device. So for my phone it should be 800 and I'm getting more than that and I'm getting a good phone for a very low price for this good phone. Hopefully it's good
Everyone is talking about that $200 dollar trade in promo, but a Pixel 5 that doesn't work comes in right around $0 dollars on the site.
How much weight would wireless charging coils add?
Love your video! The unbias analysis made me a fan! What urks my soul about some bloggers and media about this phone compared to the Z fold...umm...WE DO REMEMBER THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE OUTSIDE SCREEN ISN'T TO GIVE YOU A BIG SCREEN. IT DOES WHAT IT'S SUPPOSE TO AND WHEN YOU REALLY NEED TO MULTI-TASK AND ALL THAT JAZZ, YOU OPEN TO THE BIGGER SCREEN 🤦🤦♀️Who will buy a folding phone that they don't need to open? 🤔🤔🤔
It does have pen support too, I'm afraid
I'm still waiting for the foldable that doesn't start getting screen cracking complaints after 6 months. That's probably the most important thing to solve. The price also matters, but we all know that foldables will never get down to the price of a standard smartphone.
Stylus/Pen support is available
Can you change launchers? 🤔🤔
It does have pen support
The hinge maybe rated high, but what about the screen?
Wacth mr mobile review they invited him to the factory he talks about everything
correction: CAN use the oppo pen on both screens
If the samsung fold was as narrow as the honor fold then i would want them to copy the OP Open design but for now bc of the thickness i prefer the narrower display. However samsung needs to 100% steal the multitasking features asap. And also PUT FLAGSHIP cameras on the fold. Right now OP is the fold to beat (in america) but that honor fold 2 is wiping the floor with everybody
Excellent review. Great balance of pluses and minuses.
Thanks!
Not bothered about wireless charging, the plug will do the work, styless pen nah not bothered. Beats Samsung and pixel enough said. And it has video out too
does this phone work like a computer, i mean, can you connect it on a monitor and work like a pc like the samsung z fold?
Yes other reviewers says it didnt bcuz when they reviewed it…it didn’t have it they just put a update out for it even tho it was already on the phone
Not only do you get that $200 trade in for any phone, but you also get a free pair of OnePlus Buds Pro, a 67W charger and a case in the box unlike other foldables, and free replacement inner screen protectors for 2 years.
Pixel buds with a one plus?
@@oneplus113T oops, my mistake. I don't know why I put Pixel instead of OnePlus. Must have been watching too many reviews 😂😂
How come this brand didn’t got sponsored by major cellular company as AT&T, T-Mobil, Sprint or Verizon?
Because it's Chinese made
This looks like a well made foldable phone. Might have to ditch my Samsung fold and get this...
Waiting for 12.... expecting front 4k...
Hey thanks for the video and yeah 1499 is a lot more palatable than 1699 and trade in any phone working or not huh we have to look into it
Yeah it's a weird dance they are doing. Why not just show the lower price up front?
I like the video, but I don't agree with your main 4 points you mentioned. Before I explain why, I should mention that I am a Z Fold user (3, 4 and now 5), and I have no second phone and therefore I use the Z Fold heavily all day long privately and for business. You look at the aspect ratio from a phone perspective and believe, the cover screen aspect ratio is important. But you completely miss the point that it is a tablet that can be folded. This means the aspect ratio of the main screen, the inner screen, is important. The Z Fold's aspect ratio of the main screen is close to that of a tablet. That of OnePlus Open is just squarrish. If you were a foldable user, you would run crazy with that strange aspect ratio of the main screen. I don't mind opening my Fold. I bought it was intended to be which is a tablet.
Regarding durability: 1000000 folds of the hinge does not mean that the screen would survive it, too. And do not forget the 400000 claim of Razr+ which was met by Flip 5 but not by Razr+ itself.
Regarding camera performance: a very bold claim from you that other foldables would not deliver. The Fold 5 has one of the best camera performances among all smartphones. You just check the hardware, but your own video tests showed the problems of OnePlus Open which I don't have on Fold 5.
Regarding the price: almost every Pro Max user pays more for the phone than any Fold5 user in reality. The official price is irrelevant.
Missed this one..watching now..i own the Fold 4 BTW
Anyone been able to use it with Google Fi??
Maybe they omitted the wireless charging due to the large camera at the back which could potentially hinder wireless charging.
Nope they could've put the coils on the other side
Least it charges fast though
@@a1000island Probably they feel that fast wired charging would be sufficient for most consumers.
This phone charges so freaking fast your not gonna care about wireless charging. Cause you can charge up so quick. It doesn't matter
It is 1 gram lighter than a iPhone 14 pro Max. And way heavier than a 14 pro. Not lighter than a 14 pro
No wireless charging is a deal breaker
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That huge camera lens is a pain in the eyes. I am not getting that even if they price it for just $500.
Me watching this video on my boring iPhone 15 Pro, which the excitement of getting it wore off in like 2 days 😢😢
that price is still insane😒
didnt solve the MOST important problem : too fxxking EXPENSIVE
One problem: price
wow, where did this just come from ?
i had NO idea onplus was working on a foldable.
but i'm afraid that also this one won't come to holland.
we only have samsung's disgrace to choose from here.
seriously, out of ALL the foldables that already exist we ONLY have the galaxy z fold here.
Op site van OnePlus kan je hem bestellen voor nederland, maar alleen in groen.
Do not use the meta quest 3!!
Missed opportunity on the title, should be "Oneplus Open A new era of folding phones!"
Maybe I'll change it. I like your suggestion
"1499.. mindblowing"
You can trade in old phones any phones for up to 800$ off. Traded one of my old folds 3s and got mine for 1300$. Same price as an s24 ultra.
Are all folding phones still prone to dead pixels around the crease area due to repetitive folding? This is my only concern from getting one?
Will this be sold at best buy?
Yes . I'm hoping it comes to T-Mobile. . But best buy and Amazon confirmed
@@bet9898there was a slide that confirmed it's coming to T-Mobile as one of their "trusted vendors". That's what I was waiting on as well
@@bet9898Carrier-locked phones should be illegal.
They come with carrier bloatware pre-installed that you can't delete. 🤮🤮🤮
What foldable phone is in your pocket now 2024????
Hope the next era for OP includes wireless charging and an IP ratinh
I would love wireless charging and an IP rating
Yeah I have 1400 just laying around for a phone.
That's a lie about the trade in.
I tried My fold 3 and they are giving me $50 discount no $200.
OnePlus Open compatible with Oppo Pen.
Everybody is on board, minimising downsides and before time has passed to assess real world problems. Great marketing dept but I call bs on all this ott premature enthusiasm. Wait 6mths for real world longer term use is my poa
Wish it was taller so when held in landscape orientation videos were bigger than on a z fold 5 held in landscape orientation
Samsung now has the worst foldable phone on the market. Absolutely wild.
Apple needs to wake up
Everything is better until it's not. Time will tell.
nice
Sad it doesn't have wireless charging. Hard pass for me
Would be nice if att carries this I would definitely get it
It baffles me how such a useful feature like wireless charging was left out when it is dirt cheap to implement. The lack of wireless charging, sub par camera, and fact that this is OP's first foldable make this one not a recommended buy. But this is definitely the best 1st gen foldable we've seen by any company so far
Not there first foldable...
What the hell is going on!?
Every TH-cam review is contradicting each other. One review says it has the best battery life. Other reviews says mediocre. One review says it has video out. This review says it doesn't. Other reviews say the camera is not flagship quality but is the best foldable camera. Other review says not.
I can understand if their personal preferences that affected the reviews. Resulting in slight differences. But the explanations are totally different in each video.
It's almost like nobody's getting the same device. Or worse, TH-camrs could not be doing their due diligence