WALTHER P22 Pistol: Review & Range
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- The Walther P22 is one heck of a 22 pistol at its price point. This video is an up close look at the Walter P22 as well as some perspectives regarding carrying 22 pistols for EDC. #walther #waltherarms
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I choose the 22 as a defense weapon for several reasons. Low recoil means that I can empty the pistol very accurately while a person firing a large-caliber pistol may only get off a few shots accurately. As a nurse of 30 years I can tell you that anything that makes a hole in the human body is a potential killer and it is the placement of that hole that makes the difference and not the size or power behind it. Growing up in backwoods Arkansas I killed deer and large pigs with 22 rifles and pistols. I was on a Federal grand jury for a year and I can tell you that if you ever have to use your weapon to protect yourself and you have to go to court then you will have to defend your choice of firearm. The jury looks very differently upon a 41 magnum hollow point compared to a 22 caliber target pistol. The prosecution will point out that the large caliber pistol is designed primarily to kill a human being whereas a 22 pistol is not even considered a defensive weapon by many experts and is considered a toy or a small varmint gun by others.
Excellent input!
Here in TEXAS the Grand Jury will question why you didn't carry something big enough to put a hole in a hippopotamus 😂
Whatever makes you sleep better at night lol
On point!👍🏻
My buddy is a PA State Trooper. He said there's people who think of the 22 as a toy when compared to larger calibers, so they do stupid things, which in turn ends up getting somebody shot, sometimes fatally. There is a great video on the P17 here on TH-cam that's about 27 minutes long, but worth watching. For EDC, you're just trying too break contact with the offender, and not necessarily kill them, but if they are persistent, blood loss, from multiple shots will weaken them. At close range, I can hit my target with my P17 and my TX-22 while maintaining target acquisition, with no muzzle flip, and consistent hits, in a much shorter time than with any other caliber. I would rather use a caliber, regardless of size, that I can accurately hit with, than have a monster round that I might miss with. Every bullet has a lawyer attached too it!
Great sobering reminder and info 👍
I'm a retired RN and I completely agree with your friend. I think people, especially kids get careless with a 22 thinking its a high powered BB gun. I've heard that several times. That said it's absolutely destructive to the human brain and there's usually always several "pathway injuries" where it's bounced around inside the skull. It's always disheartening to hear a call come in with a child with a .22 head shot. They usually die. 😭
@@angelaf5040 "The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) issued a safety alert on BB guns, warning consumers that BB guns can kill because of their high muzzle velocity. According to the CPSC, BB guns cause about four deaths per year."
If this is true how much more so for a .22? Not many people are going to walk away from multiple shoots from a .22. And a high number won't walk away from just one! People who think .22s are BB guns are stupid in my opinion.
I wouldn't think twice about using a reliable .22 in a self defense situation. It's really just a matter of who gets shoot first.
I have one of the very first P22's that I bought around the same time I bought my G22. I absolutely love it! I have put so many rounds through it I finally had to get a aftermarket extractor. Super fun litte gun! Plus, if you are teaching someone to shoot a gun for the first time, it is perfect. Done it many times! Anyone that talks bad about this gun is a dummy! Nice video!
I love my P22Q! Have owned it for approx. 18 months and have fired it a whole bunch.
After a few cleanings and firing 500 rounds or so, the gun loosens up a bit and gets even better.
So I would say, a short break-in period is what you'll find is needed for this one.
Now the gun operates smoothly every time out, no more issues whatsoever.
It loves to eat Aguila HP, CCI Mini Mag and Federal Champion (all high velocity).
It's an absolutely fantastic purchase and I would recommend the P22 to anyone.
I bought it because the .22LR ammo is cheap and I like to shoot a lot.
I've heard many times that the older P22's had issues, I believe Walther has resolved them.
I also still read that people complain about them being ammo picky.
If you keep your gun clean and use high velocity rounds (1200 fps or higher) as Walther recommends,
you should have a fun time every time you go out to bang bang!
I think a 22 with good quality ammo, like Stingers, Punch..etc.. can be just as deadly as any 9mm or even higher. It’s shot placement.
Great call out regarding the ergonomics of this pistol. This firearm really sits well in the hand and lines up shots very naturally. Great video, thank you.
I’ve got one of those pistols and it’s actually a great trainer to perfect your hold and pull, plus it’s a fun gun to shoot
This is a great pistol so easy to rack and shoot, and you can't go wrong with 10rds! Great video 👍
I get that a 22lr doesn't have the stopping power of higher calibers. I usually carry 9mm or 38spcl. However, I do have arthritis and there are times where the pain is excruciating. Therefore I'll carry my Walther P22 to ensure that at least I'm on target with first and following rounds. I figure something is better than nothing.
Fully agree my friend!
Bought mine in 2005. Probably my favorite pistol that I own. Mine loves CCI Stingers.
I have one. It is an awesome pistol. Easy to use and easy to clean.
A .22LR pistol w high velocity, 1,000 fps +, hollow point ammo, will work for self defense despite some of the nay sayers. Especially if you unloaded a magazine on someone. They are going down. Also, .22LR is way cheaper than 9mm ammo for range days. Recommend CCI .22LR ammo such as: CCI Mini Mag, Stinger, and Velocitor. If you are interested in the Walther P22, check out the German Sport Guns (GSG) 922. It is a full sized, Colt 1911 compact type design. I own one and it shoots great w high velocity ammo. Rarely a jam. Retails for about $350-$400. Also, GSG is part of Sig Sauer and are made in the same factory as the Sigs. Give it a shot! (see what I did there? heh!)
Great valued info! Thank you
Good review, Thanks.
Anytime my friend 🙂
Great video. I’m looking at a P22 for lower cost range time and more frequent practice. The 22lr doesn’t have the stopping power, but multiple well placed shots are deadly. I use 9mm for my EDC CCW, but I’d rather have a 22 than nothing.
Thanks for your review of the Walther P22. I have the Walther P22Q and it has served me well.
Regarding lethality with a 22 firearm. When I was in the 6th grade a classmate of mine climbed from the front to the back seat of his family vehicle. While doing so he contacted a 22 rifle in the back seat. It discharged, killing him instantly. That said, the 22 LR wouldn't be my first choice for EDC but in an emergency I could make do.
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Like you video, carry what you practice whether plinking target shoot hunting or defense bullet placement is everything.
These walthers are very lethal. I have around 20 of these different walther semi automatic pistols and a few Rugers, but they are awesome, accurate and very light with no hard kicks. Low recoil, super easy to disassemble and clean. I recommend to everyone especially to new gun owners. The best part is the price, super affordable. I mean there are dozens of law enforcement agencies that actually use these as there everyday service weapons, so to answer those who wonders if all police agencies carry glocks, no they don’t.
Enjoyed your video dude..just subscribed
Thanks for the sub! Awesome to hear
People love to rag on .22 but 10 hits with it is sure as hell deadlier than missing all your shots of 40 S&W
Very well stated!
I do own the Walther P22, I really do like it it's a great little gun. I have a lot of fun with it and it is an extremely cheap gun to shoot. 22 caliber ammunition is priced very reasonable
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I told my CCW instructor, "One bee hurts, 10 bees kill."
She laughed and agreed
Love that little pistol. Personally I can't do the .22 round for self defense, but you're exactly right. If that's what you are comfortable with and have trained /practiced with it well that's at least Something. People say "shot placement" counts and that's true but in a panicked few seconds you may not get time for that.. Run what ya brung and hope to get away safely.👍
Well said my friend
Nice, balanced, common sense review, thanks.
I have one for me, and one for each son.
Everybody gets a P22, and 10/22, and, and, and...
Two suggestions. Captured guide rod from Galloway Precision, and a decent threaded barrel adapter from YHM.
Universal Twenty Twos! Call your legislator and demand it!
Nice video. I've been looking around at plainkers lately. A .22 LR round obviously can be deadly with a well placed shot, and I've heard and read about cases where the .22 round entered bodies at non-lethal locations but ricochet'd and hit vital organs that ended up fatal.
Looking forward to more videos.
Coming right up my friend. Thanks so much!
Most of the Pistols that I have owned and carried were
.22 and. 25 cal .
Benefits are Cheap ammo and Concealability.
You can easily find
.22 Pistols that are much smaller than that Walther. I used to be a big fan of Beretta, but I lost my taste for Hammer Fired Pistols. Shot Placement is Most important. My biggest concern with. 22s is that they are Rimfire and
you are gonna get some Clicks instead of Bangs.
All in all, I still love
.22s .
Well stated info 👍
Should be noted that proper ammo usually always goes bang. I had the walther p22 5inch pistol and it went bang every time with Aquila, cci and punch ammo.
Cci quiets didn't cycle properly but they fired fine.
I also have a walther hammerli tac r1 that shoots every time if I clean it. I went about 800 rounds over the course of a year and it stopped firing because it was so loaded up with carbon it didn't work properly, cleaned it that evening took it back out and cycles properly and without issue.
I'm here to defend 22lr and I am willing to stake my position on the assertion that 22lr with properly fitted ammo to the weapon has no more issues than other types of ammuniton.
I Love My P22 , And Yes It Is My Carry Pistol !
Grew up using 22 rifles and from my on experience, they are very lethal iffin you know vital points. Lots of deer.
Great video ! One perspective , let’s use CCI stinger 40 grain cartridges, 10 bullets = 400 grains and at .22” in diameter 10 bullets =2.2” in diameter so the thought of receiving 400 grains of lead entering my body at 1,000 fps would be a HUGE pass for me
Walter p22 assembly spring is a pain. Ordered a Galloway spring assembly.
Beautiful pistol 🔫
I have read that the 22 can be a more lethal round because of it's light weight. It doesn't go through the offender, it ricochets off bone tearing through other organs. That's the theory anyway.
It’s not just a theory. I knew someone who was shot by a .22. The bullet stuck a bone and traveled around his abdomen tearing everything apart. He died in the ER.
I’ve got 2 p22’s they’ve run great after a few hundred rounds of break in but I love all my 22s and sometimes carry my lcp2 in 22 when it’s hard to conceal anything bigger
Great little gun there for sure!
Nice. I just got one and ran 180 CCI without a single hitch. super smooth. I also got the tandemkross captive spring. Makes takedown and reassembling super easy.
A 22 for self defense is better than no gun for self defense 👍🏻
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Love p22
I read that .22 cal has killed more than any other cal. Also I have a P22 for about 10 yrs and I had to polish the sharp edge between the chamber and the feed ramp, to get it to fire with any brand ammo. CCI Stinger are a little longer than regular ammo and are designed to be fired in a bolt action rifle.
Thanks for sharing!
22lr is a pistol that you empty the entire mag in the center of mass and quickly get out of harms way. Its not a caliber that will necessarily stop an attack, just provide enough time for you to get out the hell out of there.
22lrs are way less deadly than higher caliber but it's the tradeoff.
I think in a close quarter situation where you only get 1 shot before the perp is able to grab you and wrestle you down, 22lr won't be enough unless you land a lucky shot.
Perp might still succumb to his wounds but still enough time to take you out before.
Compared to being hit with 9mm, 38sp, or 357, I think the comparison would be 22lr is like getting hit in the face with a brick which will hurt like hell but probably wouldnt kill you, while 38sp would be like having a truck hit you at 80 mph. The 2 are dramatically different in power and thus outcome. The chances of surviving 1 is much higher than the other although both are still deadly.
From derringers to semi-autos to 12G shotguns, I've owned and fired virtually every size and caliber firearm that you can think of. My choice for a personal defense weapon is the Walther p22. I can retrieve it and empty the ten-shot clip in five seconds or less. I keep that clip loaded with CCI Stingers; a round deadlier than many larger rounds. With respect to keeping the firearm clean and using only good quality ammunition - everything one should do with all firearms, one MUST do with any .22, due to the higher potential for jamming of rimfire rounds.
When they are dealing with six rounds in a bad spot does it really make any difference whether it's a . 22 or a . 45. Meanwhile you would have 5 left in case of whatever
I have had a p22 for several years. No problems with 3200 rounds through it. With the new Federal Punch ammunition I believe it could be used for personal defense.
I'm wondering: what's more effective in short barrel pistols and revolvers, Federal Punch in 22LR or .22 caliber WMR (longer 22 magnum casing that won't fit or fire in standard .22LR's). Out of a long barrel esp. a rifle it's clear the WMR has more foot-lbs of power and higher velocity. However, I believe WMR is designed for long, slow powder burn so it won''t exceed barrel pressure limits, while the .22LR Punch is designed to burn fast to actually transfer full power in a 1.87"-2.6" short barrel pistol or revolver. It's a real world question because my local gun shop has an 8 shot Ruger LCR in WMR on the shelf. I think Federal Punch is a real game changer in the 22 world because it can match 22 WMR in a short barrel setting, but without all the muzzle flash. Has anybody here compared these apples and oranges? As much as I want the 22 WMR Ruger LCR 1.87" I think Punch will work just as well and if I get the .22LR version of this short barrel pistol, it will shoot everything in the 22 LR ammo list including subsonic.
I own a 22 lr pistol and a rifle, that I use for training, and sometimes I carry the pistol for cc. I have never seen any one run to me when I point a gun at them. And if they do with the caliber of a lr I will try to hit where it really hurt. That is subject to one interpretation. I also have some 22 Mag pistols, sweet lightweight shooters, one Taurus revolver, hard to find at a reasonable price, and a Kel tech I love these guns very much. Thank you for sharing your video without all the crazy music lol.
Or the new CCI Uppercut if you can find it
I was at the indoor range today shooting mine. It hasn't seen a lot of love. So I cleaned it up last night. Even though it was already clean as it has even had 400 pounds through it. And I'll be d***** if after about a 110 rounds. The d*** thing had a catastrophic malfunction and the slide. Exploded and thankfully didn't injure my friend. When it flew off the gun and hit him in the cjust. I wanted to the lobby and talk to the gunga. I just felt like a no that it might have been an ammo issue. And he let me know that there rental Walter P22. Did the same thing just food for Thought
More fatalities with a 22 makes sense, it's an entry-level pistol. A lot of people start out as teenagers or younger with a 22 as their first gun. The ammo is cheaper and people that might be intimidated by a more powerful firearm, might find a 22 more manageable.
Btw, I love my Walther😁
Get yourself a Taurus TX 22 compact! You have never shot a reliable 22 as that one is. The slide design even keeps it from getting dirty and fouled up. I love it!
Definitely gonna get one 👍👍
I want a TX 22 based on all the good reviews, but it's not on the CA legal 'approved' list (at least for this year). Welcome to CA. Home of where they love telling you what you CAN'T do. SMH.
@@alienresearchlab so true! Sorry to hear
@@alienresearchlabhen some has the money to challenge it, the new Supreme Court will quash California 's unreasonable and unfair regulations that effectively preclude any improvements in firearms over there.
@@mdubb4855 Yep. CA is the state to come to if you want to be told what you can and can't do. Throw a football on the beach? Nope. Can I drink a beer at the beach? Nope. Can I bring my dog to the beach? Nope. Can I do anything other than just sit here quietly on the beach that my state tax dollars pay for? Nope.
Viable with good ammo, CCI velocitor a good choice. .22 LR. LCP2 good choice . .22 WMR revolvers very viable for Self defense
Personally, IMOP if someone is comfortable with the 22lr for EDC, then I say go for it. Just use quality ammo such as CCI and not bulk ammo. And like you said carrying a 22 is better than nothing at all.
My neighbor was a sheriff for 26 yrs and his duty weapon was a 9mm. When he retired he now carries a .22 as his CCW. He said he saw more .22 deaths the. Any other caliber. He also likes that fi shot in the house it will only travel through 2-3 walls instead of 5-7 with a 9mm or 7-10 with a .45.
Great info! Thank you!
I shot it today and is very picky with some ammo.
It's great with vci stingers
They are indeed very picky on ammo. If you do not have a high velocity round they will Jam continually. Also the rear sights suck. Come loose will not stay adjusted. These are 2 common issues with this gun.
Hey....cal 22Lr is very good and it can do the job......good video
Bye
My thoughts sre that a .22 is better than nothing at all for concealed carry. My wife carries this Walther and she loves it.
Awesome 👍 agreed
I don't conceal carry. I don't feel the need to. But if I did I would carry 22lr, but it would have to be a revolver. I definitely don't want a jam or cycle failure.
The OEM guide rod & recoil spring is a garbage design that seems to make the P22 finnicky about choice of ammo, grip & lube. I've shot P22s where I couldn't get through a mag without multiple stoppages. I replaced the OEM spring & guide rod with the TandemKross captured guide rod & spring (a $20 drop in part) and that made the P22 the pistol I thought I was getting. Not only is it much easier to disassemble & reassemble, it virtually eliminated all the failures to feed I was experiencing. The TandemKross turned my disappointment with the P22 into pure joy when firing.
perhaps a .22 may be lethal, but you're usually just going to mildly irritate your target. I just bought one of these though, and it is a great little gun. friday night date night at the range is what we call fun in florida.
Heck yeah! 🙂👍👍
I have a Ruger LCP II in 22lr and a Walther P22. I have no problem with a 22 pistol for CCW . If you watch the security camera footage of armed incidents, it is almost always the case that as soon as the thug sees or hears your gun, they are beating feet out of there! That being said, I do carry a Ruger LCP II in 380 with Liberty ammo, as 22lr guns are not 100% reliable function wise. But I would be fine with 22lr if that was the gun I was best with.
Thanks for sharing!
Is it the P22 or the updated version P22Q?
The original was the p22. The new one is the p22q. The P22Q is just the newest version with small changes. Mags are the same.Sep 12, 2020
Is A Walther P22 a good start for gun ownership or not if not which one is right for small handed person.? Thanks
The Ruger LCP 380 is a great compact carry
@@411Outdoors Are Barettas still a good pistolI to use like the ones used in earlier james Bond films for beginners?
I'm a retired RN/BSN. I can promise you in my experience working trauma, yes more people have worse injuries with a.22. When people are shot in the head with a 22 it bounces off the inside of the skull bones and leaves pathways through the brain. 9mm will either be a through and through injury or it will stop in the body. 22's move around inside the human body destroying blood vessels and tissue. From what I have seen I'd much rather get hit with a 9mm.
On the outside of the body a 22 looks less damaging but inside it's destructive.
Thank you for the input!
More people are killed with the 22LR round than any other round because many don't take safety into account as the 22 cal is so small thinking it's not deadly and wind up becoming a statistic.
Unfortunately, most deaths caused by the 22LR round are accidental
The reason 22s are the highest in fatality is because they're the cheapest so they make up the majority of what people own. It's got nothing to do with stopping power and everything to do with economics.
More people aren't dying to 357 magnum because it's too expensive compared to 22lr
I love shooting .22s. We need to get together sometime and do some plinking!
It’s a blast for sure my bro
the only other caliber that might be more fatal would be 10mm
which is why the New York Coroner’s office actually begged the NYPD to stop using 10mm because of the damage it was doing to criminals…
I wouldn't have one for my everyday carry. They are unreliable, I think a lot of 22s are that way because I have my share of them. I have one of the walther 22lrs and it has jammed and the spent casings won't come out of the barrel to eject. Probable going to have to send it back for some maintenance.
The reason it's more fateal is most are cheap and that little round gets in ya it bounces around .the army is snipeing with it now out to 300 yrds
Very interesting 👍👍
Off topic sorry, but check out the Ccanku C1292! Great EDC!
Love that blade sir! May pick one up as I am on a massive double edge kick haha
@@411Outdoors I bought 2!😉😅
I am a 35 year paramedic and I’ve saw a lot of gunshots. I’ve saw more deaths from a 22 cal than any others.
Thanks for sharing!
This is my whole thing. 9mm is my fav but look......the rapier was arguably one of if not the most deadly KILLING sword ever made.
Picture in your mind a rapier stab..
Now look at a 22 bullet hole....
That simple.
Knights did not kill eachother with their greatswords, they got in close with them but in the end you use a little ice pick dagger for the kill. Not a slicing weapon, not a big giant sword.
The LA gangbangers used to unload 100 round .22 uzi mags on each other in the 80s. The bullets bounce around in the body. That's what I heard at least when I was a youngster
I would just add that the Walther P22 (Q in my case) likes CCI and Aguila ammo. Winchester, reregardless of grain or rate, gave me many failures.
Aguila Super Extra doesn't cycle for me. My P22 is from 2013.
@clarkkent1521 since that comment, the interceptor hollow point caused a trip to the gun Smith. Going with cci now.
"I'd rather be shot at with a .44 Magnum & missed than be shot at & hit with a .22!" -- sootch00
A 22 can be mistaken for other sounds , fireworks ,etc, just saying …it does bounce off a Raccoons skull, but knocked him out cold,the fun factor is hard to beat on these. Raccoons are tough if you’ve never taken them
Great info
@@411Outdoors scared the heck outta me when he woke up, he looked stone cold dead
@@411Outdoorsalso having hunted with them I wouldn’t want to get hit with one
Does this pistol eat any ammo?
Not that know of
Ok, wanna get my son his 1st tranning pistol, wanna get him one that is not phoenikee with certain ammo
A hit with a .22 is better than a miss with a '.44 or 9mm.'
Well said!
What I've hear is that .22 has had more fatalities than any other round in the world. Lots of them have to due with accident shooting and killing. People under estimate the .22.
Put a suppressor on a P22, and it's very quiet.
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I do this, and/or use subsonic rounds, and able to practice on my own property w/o disturbing the peace. We have a few acres. Other neighbors shoot larger caliber and I've noticed they've gotten visits by the police, as it's not legal within our town limits. They're also not the most respectful people, shooting in middle of the night, etc. It's a great little pistol, a lot of fun and good price 👍🏼
Why are people hating so hard on the p22?
I really dig it. I don’t see what there is to hate on. It’s built well and super smooth.
Compensate quality with quantity. If you must use a 22 for self defense, do the math. One target, 10:1. Two targets, 5:1. Three targets, 3:1. That clip has 10 rounds for a reason. Use them. Use them all.
Well said!
Have had my Walther P22 for eight years. Never a miss-fire or jam; it is extremely accurate even for a first-time shooter. It's accurate for light competition and the price is great for new shooters. Highly recommend.
The host looks like a country David Draiman (lead singer of Disturbed) 🤟 oooohwaaaaa 😅
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classic! my good friend got killed by a .22 shot in the eye ba a scum bag ,
I’m so sorry to hear that bro!
If you had to use a .22 you definitely want round capacity of a double stack magazine.
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Is there a p22 model/variant that supports a double stack magazine?
@@sandstorm6605 very cool!
@@411Outdoors I just don’t know much about them. Looks like a nice little pistol though.
@@sandstorm6605 The SIG P322 has a 20 round mag.
I witnessed a lawyer getting shot in the face with several rounds from a .22 and he walked away. I wouldn’t recommend.22 as a self defense round. But it’s better than a stick.
Thanks for the info!
Could be better . Carry gun . Better than cheap single action . But .
Maybe you might walk away if one hits you but after 2 or 3 shits your gonna go to sleep forever.
22 will bounce around inside of you thats why it has more fatalities
Mine was made in 2010.
Complaints
1.WILL ONLY SHOOT CCCI MINI MAGS
2.Shoots low,aim dead on
3.you really need to upgrade the recoil spring to a captured one.
Pros
1.follow my advice on ammo,3000 rounds no hiccups
2.easily concealed
Its made by umarex
Interesting 👍 I think my Colt m45 CO2 with blowback was as well
Could have been better for the price , No gun for a life time though ,just a new toy ,
I love Walther firearms but this is the worst piece of junk they’ve ever made.
Mine has a minimum of 5 failures out of every 100 rounds.
I bought a Walther P22 that firearm is an absolute piece of crap. Fails to fire a lot. Fails to feed quite often. And fails to eject a common occurrence. I sent it back to factory and they said it's okay. However it still does the same crap. Not using cheap ammo. Takes over 30 minutes just to get through a box of 50. I'd use it for a paperweight but its not even worthy for that. Don't bother getting one.
Interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing
Try cleaning it with Frog Lube. And if you have a first Gen replace the mag with a new one and buy a captured spring. I have a friend who did this and he says the gun works perfectly now. And that's without any Frog Lube.
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There probably isn't a gun in .22 more notorious then The GSG Firefly for stove pipes, failure to eject, failure to feed and so on. In another video he reviews that gun using Golden Bullets. And after 500 rounds I think he only had one problem. I guarantee you he cleaned that gun with Frog Lube before using it.
I went back and watched his Firefly review and he was using Remington Thunder Bolt ammo, not Golden Bullets. Never the less this stuff isn't exactly CCI ammo.