"Touche" means you are conceding a point to an opponent, it comes from fencing and means "touched". The word you may be looking for is "chapeau", short for "tirer son chapeau", which literally means hats off.
That was one of the best product showcases I’ve seen. The fact a CEO came humble and authentic was enough to make me want to purchase a PDP. That man is world class.
It’s never wrong to offer too much respect. BK appreciated that. And if I had to guess, this has been part of James’ success over the years. And much needed decency these days. Bravo.
Given German culture, it was perfectly appropriate for him to address the older (and not-personally-known) man by his surname. Had they spoken in German, both would have used the “Sie” form of address if and until BK would have suggested the informal “du.”
How is it underrated? If anything it's overhyped. I HAVE a PDP, and I work at a range so I have shot quite a few guns. I think the PDP is a reliable gun, with ok ergonomics, ok grip texture, and a great trigger. The recoil behavior of the PDP is a bit awkward, I find that even a P320 behaves a bit better. I will likely sell my PDP at some point.
I bought one, and I'm waiting for background check to complete. Funny how I started out, several months ago, fairly sure that I wanted a Sig Sauer, because it is what the US Military uses ( When I was in the Navy we still used. the 1911). Then I read about the H&K VP9, and was sure I wanted that one. Then I started reading about the CZ and the Hellcat too. THEN I started to read about the Walther PDP, and thought it was too good to be true so I read how absolutely everyone loved it, and so I went to our local Scheels sporting goods and handled the gun myself. So far it seems to be everything that everyone is saying about it, and I can't wait to take it to the range.
Jimmy "Big Time" Reeves, mixing it up with the freakin' CEO of a major gun company. That's awesome. And that pistol looked great. Will definitely have to try it when I get to a free state.
I’ve been really watching Walthers product line lately, and I continue to be impressed with their offerings. Great to see the CEO at a show talking about the product. Thanks James!
Hey BK if you are reading the comments I'd like to let you know I've carried a PPS M1 since 2010. Aside from being an easily concealable gun it is built like a tank and fun to shoot. Keep the great guns coming!
Walther has the best striker fired trigger of any gun. Period. Their only competition there is Canik with... their Walther copy. And the PDP is not just a great product, but one where they continually listen to customer feedback. The V2 optics system is better than V1, and now it's direct milled. I only wish it had less recoil. Between the slide weight, short and heavy spring, it feels like a .40 pistol in 9mm.
I've used the PDP 4.5" as well as a Canik TP9SFX and a Canik Mete SFT Pro. The difference I found in the trigger is the PDP springs back to reset a little more, kind of pushes your finger back. I would say it is up to the end user to decide which trigger reset they prefer.
This was honestly the most impressive pistol I shot at shot show range day. Between the ergos and shootability of the gun I felt like it was hard to miss. They were also one of the only exhibitors that gave me more than 5 rounds in a magazine so I could actually get a good feel for the gun. I will be picking one up soon for sure!
I bought the PDP Pro compact SD a few months ago. Slapped on a Comp, upgraded guide rod and spring, green dot and a tactical light. I hardly touch my other pistols now.
So I picked one up at the local gun store and man it was on sale because the person who initially bought it did not like it. Needless to say that this weapon is amazing even had the enhanced trigger on it and is so smooth. My department changes weapons every 5 years so hopefully they will open their eyes and see how productive we can be with a new PDP. Also I was so hooked I bought a PCP chambered in 9mm . both has TLR lights as well. Solid Products Indeed.
Crazy it took them 2+ years to come out with this model. The last thing they need to correct is the polymer guide rod and 18lb spring. SS Guide rod and 15lbs, and this thing may actually be the best out of the box polymer pistol on the market. It's about time Walther.
Are you sure they're going to release this version without this optic? Are they going to release this version at all? I just looked on the site because I want this version.
@@Shenmue06 I recently spoke to one of my subscribers about this model and he said it is a Law Enforcement only model, which he was able to get through his department. So, looks like they will not be releasing it to the public. He did state it still has a polymer guide rod, which I found interesting, but it is direct cut for the Acro and has co-witnessable, metal sights. Maybe one day they will offer a version like this to the public, if enough people demand it.
Just a spectacular firearm. My nightstand gun. The gun I fire the least and shoot with the best. Everything about it is superb. The trigger, slide serations and flawless function. Mounted a 507k with C&H Precision plate and still get cowitness with stock sights. Just an amazing gun.
My first pistol was the PPX the month after I turned 21, followed by a PPS and PK380. Then I got the PPQ match and spent nearly 400 more dollars on magwell, plate, baseplates, night sites, and metal trigger. Now I just got the PDP pro with all that, and a threaded barrel, for 150$ more than the base model. IMO best pistol you can buy under 1000$
I’ve been on the fence about getting a PDP for weeks now but this video pushed me over the edge! Just brought home a PDP Compact. I want to support a company like Walther and a CEO like “Bernie”!
Just got the PDP pro. Nice gun and I choosed it over the sfp9. However, a few things should be mentioned: It comes with plastic sights. Not suppressor height or cowitness ready. The cover of the threaded barrel does not hold well and you need to check it often. In Gernany it does not include a free optics plate. The trigger needs to be pulled for dissassembly. Polymer guide rod. Mmh, well I see quite a bit of potential for improvement. Also: pls give us an option with paddle release. 🙋🏻♀️
James, as usual I'm impressed with how seamlessly you go from frat boy jackass to a well-behaved gentleman I wouldn't be embarrassed to go to a good restaurant with.
Mantis X or training lasers are great for dryfire. Even have a mag that resets trigger so you DON'T KEEP RACKING SLIDE & integrating that potential habit during a REAL SITUATION.. Great video!!!💯
I just purchased the PD380 as my first Walther. I have 250 rounds through it and kinda like it. It is far from perfect but acceptable. 2 failures in 250 rounds. 1 failure to feed, 1 failure to go into battery.
Man, if they would offer the PDP with the paddle mag release it would be my 100% everything gun. Guess ill stick to my P99 still. Too bad its discontinued. I just cant shake the love of the paddle mag release after trying it.
I love my PDP SD Pro but so happy there is finally a non-threaded version. Almost got the pro compact last week. Going to wait for these to come out. Don't need a threaded barrel on the compact.
I have a bad feeling that they're only going to sell this version with the optic which ruines it for me. I don't understand why they don't just give us more options 🤔? I want this exact same pistol but I want to choose my optic.
Ergonomics ❗ Walther gets IT. Look at their heritage with .22 competition target pistols from the 1960's onward. Look at their target grip designs. The 9mm pistol market is flooded with flashy, drilled, milled colored slides but lack Walthers attention to ERGONOMICS. I wished this interview continued longer in a quiet factory setting. 👍👍👍👍👍
...if you csn...visit the "old city"..I spend many Saturdays walking around it 50 plus years ago, when I was stationed in Illesheim..about 30 miles away
Does the PDP ACRO Full size Professional allow other red dots to be installed with Walther plates? I am asking because I have read that the slide is "direct milled". If at some time I wanted to replace the ACRO, is it possible?
If I could buy this same exact pro model that comes with a regular barrel and night sights I would buy it 100%. Unfortunately they expect you to buy this optic. It drives me crazy that they don't have more options 🤦.
Meanwhile, where is a interview with the CEO of Heckler & Koch ❓ This is great. Company pride, continuation of Walther heritage, tradition. This is a quality product. Like Mercedes Benz. 👍👍👍👍👍
Not too keen on the "LE Only" aspect of this model. Frankly any company that does "LE Only" stuff goes down a notch in my book. Which is unfortunate because I have loved my 4.5" PDP from the day I brought it home. Hoping this is only temporary and the direct-milled ACRO PDP will be released to the teeming masses in the near future. I, a dirty, lowly civilian, would absolutely buy one.
Night sights, a regular barrel and a smaller magazine baseplate is how the compact pro should have been in the first place. Why walther hasn't released a version like this is something that I'll never understand.
i have one, its kinda lack luster. the trigger and ergos are great but other than that its basically a worse glock17/19 with a huge fat and tall slide that snaps like a .40 cal with the punch of 9mm. the best way to describe it is a gun with an identity crisis. is it a ccw? is it a duty gun? is it a comp gun? its none and all of those wrapped together and does everything very OK for $800. you can get a police trade in glock19, a red dot, and an upgraded trigger for about the same price, and you'd have a flatter shooting gun at the end of the day. for an $800 gun id expect it to be better than a glock19 with $350 worth of upgrades. the first thing i did with mine was take off the stupid flared magwell that doesnt assist in anything other than make the gun more chunky. and on top of all that mine had chunks broken out of the feed ramp after about 60 rounds, waiting on them to send it back to me so i can sell it and buy another glock. if youre in the market for a 9mm duty gun avoid this one.
The magwell is a weird choice even for a competition gun, because at least in IPSC, that makes it a standard division gun - where everybody else shoots much lighter single-action triggers, 20-round magazines and a thumb paddle. So the only good choice is to remove the magwell and shoot production division. Maybe it's different in UPSA, I'm not sure.
Nice. How is the recoil impulse on the PDP series? I heard recently from some shooters that they tend to be a bit snappy, but the TH-cam reviewers never mention that.
It's got a bit more pop than some striker guns (and almost all hammer metal frame handguns ), but it's not punishing, and it comes back on target so naturally it's not an impediment. Part of that is because the stock recoil spring is on the heavy side, part of that is the stepped chamber imparting more velocity on the round than it would out of the same length barrel as other striker-fired guns so Newton's law is in effect. And it does rotate easier than many because of the bore axis. All that said, you can run the gun fast with ease thanks to the ergos, factory grip texture and the amazing trigger. Had an all-day combat handgun class last Friday, 500+ rounds, extended strings of fire, run and gun, etc, and had no comfort issues with my Pro SD Fullsize (4.5" slide, 5.1" threaded barrel, 18rd grip), just a joy to shoot. My favorite polymer striker fired handgun hands down, and I own a lot of good ones. Ended up getting a 4" PDP Compact for EDC.
They are snappy. Heavy slide/light frame and a high bore axis. The “stepped chamber imparting more velocity” explanation has been pretty well debunked by people shooting them through chronographs next to similar guns with zero significant differences in velocity (with the Walther not even being the highest velocity consistently, sometimes it came in last). It can be trained around, it can be mitigated (with things like brass back straps and or wml), but it is there regardless of people wanting to deny it. They are still good and you should try one out if you can if you are interested, but for me a cz p10 was the better choice (and not just because it costs half as much).
Thanks, BK, for confirmed the name is pronounced just as it's spelled, not "Walter," as I've heard other GunTubers say. I wasn't sure because it is a German name and I don't speak German.
It is actually pronounced “Valter” or “Valtuh” depending on how rhotic your accent is because there is no equivalent to either of the English “th” sounds and W’s are V’s in German. It’s the German version of the name Walter. BK just said it that way because he was speaking to an American and that’s how the name is generally pronounced in English.
They would get more love if they would sell a version like this with the night sights instead of a threaded barrel which half of their customers don't want. Very few people would choose a threaded barrel over night sights yet they don't offer it. They're definitely nice guns though.
Would like to see them remove the ledge under the mag release, and I would like to see them round the edges under the beaver tail similar to what Canik or CZ does. Lastly, I think the grip texture could be more aggressive. I like my PDP, it pulls around 3lbs 9oz, and it will hit at 50-100yds all day. But, it's one of the least intuitive guns to run fast for me. I find that my P10F with ironsights can be pushed faster, and my P365XL "Specter Comp at Home" build can also be pushed faster. There's some minute details with dot behavior that are hard to explain without visual representation. I'm going to jump on the 2011 bandwagon for a bit. See what I gain from that experience, and after that I might finally bite the bullet on something from LTT.
I haven't shot a PPQ or PDP but I'll take my CZ P10C or F over any polymer striker fire gun. Don't try a 2011, it will ruin your experience with anything else, plus your bank/wallet will hate you.
I like that the CEO actually knows his product and is willing to personally help market it and not just sit behind a desk. Touché sir.
That's the difference between IWA/Enforce Tac and SHOT.
"Touche" means you are conceding a point to an opponent, it comes from fencing and means "touched".
The word you may be looking for is "chapeau", short for "tirer son chapeau", which literally means hats off.
@@maxcoseti Lol. Ok? Who gives af?? 🤷♂️
@@John_Redcorn_take a lap
@@John_Redcorn_people with a vocabulary?
Walther is significantly underrated in the United States, despite competitive pricing and good quality out of the box.
I’ve never personally met someone who didn’t like them after shooting one
That was one of the best product showcases I’ve seen. The fact a CEO came humble and authentic was enough to make me want to purchase a PDP. That man is world class.
And the PDP pro is IMO the best pistol under 1k you can get
It’s never wrong to offer too much respect. BK appreciated that. And if I had to guess, this has been part of James’ success over the years. And much needed decency these days. Bravo.
Given German culture, it was perfectly appropriate for him to address the older (and not-personally-known) man by his surname. Had they spoken in German, both would have used the “Sie” form of address if and until BK would have suggested the informal “du.”
The Walther PDP series are super underrated. Great ergos and trigger. Thank you TFBTV for showcasing this beauty.
Thats a fact💯
The P99 was super underrated too. The Walther didn’t really gain recognition until the PPQ
Meh just repackaged P99 / PPQ.
I don't think it's underrated.. I feel like a lot of people know it's epic and the best all around pistol there is at the moment.
How is it underrated? If anything it's overhyped. I HAVE a PDP, and I work at a range so I have shot quite a few guns. I think the PDP is a reliable gun, with ok ergonomics, ok grip texture, and a great trigger. The recoil behavior of the PDP is a bit awkward, I find that even a P320 behaves a bit better.
I will likely sell my PDP at some point.
The PDP Pros are stunningly accurate. Well made and reliable and I love the grips too
Interesting to see you here! A man of fine 2a culture I see!
The PDP series is absolutely world class...and he said the majic word...intuitive..your equipment shouldn't be thought provoking
Refreshing to hear a CEO say "nothing gets better as it gets higher" in regards to mounting things on slides.
Giraffe mount AR optic guys hated that
Walthers CEO is a cool dude
I bought one, and I'm waiting for background check to complete. Funny how I started out, several months ago, fairly sure that I wanted a Sig Sauer, because it is what the US Military uses ( When I was in the Navy we still used. the 1911). Then I read about the H&K VP9, and was sure I wanted that one. Then I started reading about the CZ and the Hellcat too. THEN I started to read about the Walther PDP, and thought it was too good to be true so I read how absolutely everyone loved it, and so I went to our local Scheels sporting goods and handled the gun myself. So far it seems to be everything that everyone is saying about it, and I can't wait to take it to the range.
Jimmy "Big Time" Reeves, mixing it up with the freakin' CEO of a major gun company. That's awesome. And that pistol looked great. Will definitely have to try it when I get to a free state.
Walthers are awesome just like their CEO
I’ve been really watching Walthers product line lately, and I continue to be impressed with their offerings. Great to see the CEO at a show talking about the product. Thanks James!
Hey BK if you are reading the comments I'd like to let you know I've carried a PPS M1 since 2010. Aside from being an easily concealable gun it is built like a tank and fun to shoot. Keep the great guns coming!
Walther has the best striker fired trigger of any gun. Period. Their only competition there is Canik with... their Walther copy.
And the PDP is not just a great product, but one where they continually listen to customer feedback. The V2 optics system is better than V1, and now it's direct milled.
I only wish it had less recoil. Between the slide weight, short and heavy spring, it feels like a .40 pistol in 9mm.
I've used the PDP 4.5" as well as a Canik TP9SFX and a Canik Mete SFT Pro.
The difference I found in the trigger is the PDP springs back to reset a little more, kind of pushes your finger back.
I would say it is up to the end user to decide which trigger reset they prefer.
Walther arguably makes the best pistols in the world. Totally underrated outside of Europe.
Huge respect for BK
Thanks, as a Walther fanboy, it’s nice to see the CEO and how he interacts with the community
This was honestly the most impressive pistol I shot at shot show range day. Between the ergos and shootability of the gun I felt like it was hard to miss. They were also one of the only exhibitors that gave me more than 5 rounds in a magazine so I could actually get a good feel for the gun. I will be picking one up soon for sure!
having a direct build pistol for the aimpoint acro is something really cool
I recently shot the PDP Pro SD Compact and wow it’s amazing
I bought the PDP Pro compact SD a few months ago. Slapped on a Comp, upgraded guide rod and spring, green dot and a tactical light. I hardly touch my other pistols now.
So I picked one up at the local gun store and man it was on sale because the person who initially bought it did not like it. Needless to say that this weapon is amazing even had the enhanced trigger on it and is so smooth. My department changes weapons every 5 years so hopefully they will open their eyes and see how productive we can be with a new PDP. Also I was so hooked I bought a PCP chambered in 9mm . both has TLR lights as well. Solid Products Indeed.
Wow! That was a cool interview!
Crazy it took them 2+ years to come out with this model. The last thing they need to correct is the polymer guide rod and 18lb spring. SS Guide rod and 15lbs, and this thing may actually be the best out of the box polymer pistol on the market. It's about time Walther.
Are you sure they're going to release this version without this optic? Are they going to release this version at all? I just looked on the site because I want this version.
@@Shenmue06 I recently spoke to one of my subscribers about this model and he said it is a Law Enforcement only model, which he was able to get through his department. So, looks like they will not be releasing it to the public. He did state it still has a polymer guide rod, which I found interesting, but it is direct cut for the Acro and has co-witnessable, metal sights. Maybe one day they will offer a version like this to the public, if enough people demand it.
And... This is why I changed out my OEM guide rod/spring with a Sprinco Recoil Management Guide Rod System from Ben Stoeger.
Zr tactical is the way to go
As the proud owner of a polymer PDP 4" Compact I loved this interview! Great job all around!
Just a spectacular firearm. My nightstand gun. The gun I fire the least and shoot with the best. Everything about it is superb. The trigger, slide serations and flawless function. Mounted a 507k with C&H Precision plate and still get cowitness with stock sights. Just an amazing gun.
My first pistol was the PPX the month after I turned 21, followed by a PPS and PK380. Then I got the PPQ match and spent nearly 400 more dollars on magwell, plate, baseplates, night sites, and metal trigger. Now I just got the PDP pro with all that, and a threaded barrel, for 150$ more than the base model. IMO best pistol you can buy under 1000$
The Walther's I have owned, no complaints. My favorite trigger out of the box.
I’ve been on the fence about getting a PDP for weeks now but this video pushed me over the edge! Just brought home a PDP Compact. I want to support a company like Walther and a CEO like “Bernie”!
James, as always you are the consummate professional.
wish they would make it with the euro mag release wippy thingy too
*I am a proud Walther PDP plataform fan!*
Thank God they've gone direct mount. This is a great move forward.
Just got the PDP pro. Nice gun and I choosed it over the sfp9. However, a few things should be mentioned: It comes with plastic sights. Not suppressor height or cowitness ready. The cover of the threaded barrel does not hold well and you need to check it often. In Gernany it does not include a free optics plate. The trigger needs to be pulled for dissassembly. Polymer guide rod. Mmh, well I see quite a bit of potential for improvement. Also: pls give us an option with paddle release. 🙋🏻♀️
James, as usual I'm impressed with how seamlessly you go from frat boy jackass to a well-behaved gentleman I wouldn't be embarrassed to go to a good restaurant with.
Great interview by the James and the CEO. I’m going to buy one- just need to decide if I want the full size or compact. Thank you for the great video!
The red and blue PDP on the stand look very Halo.
My PDP may be my fav gun. Love it. A little snappy but great gun.
Ordered one as soon as I could! Should be shipping today. Unfortunately it’s LEO only but $999 for this is an excellent deal.
Mantis X or training lasers are great for dryfire. Even have a mag that resets trigger so you DON'T KEEP RACKING SLIDE & integrating that potential habit during a REAL SITUATION.. Great video!!!💯
What mag can do that?
It's called the dry mag and Tactical Hyve reviews it. Great tool reviewed by an AMAZING SHOOTER who does it for a living. Has helped me BIGTIME
I just purchased the PD380 as my first Walther. I have 250 rounds through it and kinda like it. It is far from perfect but acceptable. 2 failures in 250 rounds. 1 failure to feed, 1 failure to go into battery.
Easily the finest striker fired trigger I’ve ever shot. Nothing else is close.
That’s a cool CEO
Man, if they would offer the PDP with the paddle mag release it would be my 100% everything gun. Guess ill stick to my P99 still. Too bad its discontinued. I just cant shake the love of the paddle mag release after trying it.
Love Nürnberg, my wife was from there!
If you have the chance, hit up 'Gasthof Tut' in Altenfurt, best Greek restaurant outside of Greece!
I love my PDP SD Pro but so happy there is finally a non-threaded version. Almost got the pro compact last week. Going to wait for these to come out. Don't need a threaded barrel on the compact.
I have a bad feeling that they're only going to sell this version with the optic which ruines it for me. I don't understand why they don't just give us more options 🤔? I want this exact same pistol but I want to choose my optic.
@@Shenmue06 I hope that's not the case but I agree. It would not be what I put on it. Would pair with the Holosun SCS PDP.
I've never had a chance to use a Walther, but they sure have some beautiful guns.
Still on the fence only because I’ve heard from other reviews that it’s very snappy. Will rent one and try it out before deciding.
I almost bought the PDP Pro compact a few days ago. Its a good thing I waited. He didnt say whether or not it would release in the US or when.
This is the pro that they should have released in the first place. I don't want the optic though.
I just ordered one, and I'm excited to give it a try.
Very interesting. Thanks for the video. Can I request a visit to Tanfoglio?
Ergonomics ❗
Walther gets IT.
Look at their heritage with .22 competition target pistols from the 1960's onward. Look at their target grip designs.
The 9mm pistol market is flooded with flashy, drilled, milled colored slides but lack Walthers attention to ERGONOMICS. I wished this interview continued longer in a quiet factory setting. 👍👍👍👍👍
What's the SKU for the direct mount ACRO and steel sight version?
2881225PRO. Looks like a LEO only model so far.
@@apnk6870 Well that's lame. Hopefully that changes soon.
@johnsonedc1818 Yeah why did he even show us this pistol if regular people can't by it 😒
Walther Gang eating good these last few years
a great very interesting neat delicious video and pistol Mr James.have a good one and keep these videos flowing.
...if you csn...visit the "old city"..I spend many Saturdays walking around it 50 plus years ago, when I was stationed in Illesheim..about 30 miles away
Picked mine up on my way in to work today.
I have never put one through the paces but, I have a cz shadow 2 and I can say one thing I prefer the feel of the Walther.
Walther is WAY too slept on this day and age… what an absolute banger for the price. This will be my next purchase.
Looking for a duty style pistol it’s between a P10F, PDP, or echelon
Like my PDP Pro SC but I would like it better with a lower bore axis and less slide mss.
Looks amazing!
What makes this version any different from the PDP SD PRO? Just minus the threadded barrel?
Now if only they could get that trigger in stock on their website! Been waiting to long to get my hands on one.
Will this fit inside a full size 4.5 inch pd p holster?
Where walther double stack micro tho?
Very good firearm at a very good price point. Well done 👍
Does the PDP ACRO Full size Professional allow other red dots to be installed with Walther plates? I am asking because I have read that the slide is "direct milled". If at some time I wanted to replace the ACRO, is it possible?
Am I correct when I saw that the Pro trigger looks slightly different than the ones we know of here in the US?
The PDP Pro that I have still needs a plate between the RDO and the frame. Is this a new version of the PDP Pro ???
Please do a video on the simunition/utm and red gun on display. There is no info on their LEO site yet
If I could buy this same exact pro model that comes with a regular barrel and night sights I would buy it 100%. Unfortunately they expect you to buy this optic. It drives me crazy that they don't have more options 🤦.
What’s the difference between this one and the PDP Pro SD
When is this going to be available in USA?
I wonder if those are the night sights they offer through the law enforcement sales.
This is the PDP professional, which is exclusive to LE, not the PDP pro which is available to civilians
BK 👑
Meanwhile, where is a interview with the CEO of Heckler & Koch ❓
This is great. Company pride, continuation of Walther heritage, tradition. This is a quality product. Like Mercedes Benz. 👍👍👍👍👍
Is this model only available to law enforcement or can a regular civilian buy this package?
Not too keen on the "LE Only" aspect of this model. Frankly any company that does "LE Only" stuff goes down a notch in my book. Which is unfortunate because I have loved my 4.5" PDP from the day I brought it home. Hoping this is only temporary and the direct-milled ACRO PDP will be released to the teeming masses in the near future. I, a dirty, lowly civilian, would absolutely buy one.
They will eventually be available to public. LE only indicates discounted pricing to agency’s for purchasing in bulk.
Well we all strive for high marks in your book. I hope Walther can stay in business with your downgrade of status.
@@gncc600 Do you think manufacturers should sell LE-exclusive models that are not sold to the civilian market?
I just picked up the PDP PRO SD, however, I wish this had been released. Steal sights, and no threaded barrel
Tell me about it. I almost bought the PDP Pro compact a few days ago and now I see this. Definitely getting this version as I like running Acros.
Night sights, a regular barrel and a smaller magazine baseplate is how the compact pro should have been in the first place. Why walther hasn't released a version like this is something that I'll never understand.
Ordered mine last night
I loved the PPQ and the PDP, I wish the accessory game was better.
Eagerly awaiting my PDP pro compact
Well done!
I liked the PDP so much I bought a second one.
Veeeery nice.
Gun is ok too
i have one, its kinda lack luster. the trigger and ergos are great but other than that its basically a worse glock17/19 with a huge fat and tall slide that snaps like a .40 cal with the punch of 9mm.
the best way to describe it is a gun with an identity crisis. is it a ccw? is it a duty gun? is it a comp gun? its none and all of those wrapped together and does everything very OK for $800.
you can get a police trade in glock19, a red dot, and an upgraded trigger for about the same price, and you'd have a flatter shooting gun at the end of the day.
for an $800 gun id expect it to be better than a glock19 with $350 worth of upgrades.
the first thing i did with mine was take off the stupid flared magwell that doesnt assist in anything other than make the gun more chunky.
and on top of all that mine had chunks broken out of the feed ramp after about 60 rounds, waiting on them to send it back to me so i can sell it and buy another glock. if youre in the market for a 9mm duty gun avoid this one.
The magwell is a weird choice even for a competition gun, because at least in IPSC, that makes it a standard division gun - where everybody else shoots much lighter single-action triggers, 20-round magazines and a thumb paddle. So the only good choice is to remove the magwell and shoot production division. Maybe it's different in UPSA, I'm not sure.
I love mine. Where do you live that you paid $800 for it…? I paid under $600
what model is this? im the PDP pro's i see on their site all have threaded barrels which i dont really care for
found it, it is the PDP Full Size 4.5" Professional ACRO for anyone interested
So the difference between this and the pro sf is adds metal sights and removes threaded barrel 🤔
Nice. How is the recoil impulse on the PDP series? I heard recently from some shooters that they tend to be a bit snappy, but the TH-cam reviewers never mention that.
It's got a bit more pop than some striker guns (and almost all hammer metal frame handguns ), but it's not punishing, and it comes back on target so naturally it's not an impediment. Part of that is because the stock recoil spring is on the heavy side, part of that is the stepped chamber imparting more velocity on the round than it would out of the same length barrel as other striker-fired guns so Newton's law is in effect. And it does rotate easier than many because of the bore axis. All that said, you can run the gun fast with ease thanks to the ergos, factory grip texture and the amazing trigger.
Had an all-day combat handgun class last Friday, 500+ rounds, extended strings of fire, run and gun, etc, and had no comfort issues with my Pro SD Fullsize (4.5" slide, 5.1" threaded barrel, 18rd grip), just a joy to shoot. My favorite polymer striker fired handgun hands down, and I own a lot of good ones. Ended up getting a 4" PDP Compact for EDC.
@@Croak1 Thank you for the detailed, thoughtful reply.
@@Croak1it's not snappy, people just don't know how to hold their handguns
Slide is very heavy, so it's even snappier than a Glock. But the trigger is very good and it's extremely accurate. With enough training a good gun.
They are snappy. Heavy slide/light frame and a high bore axis. The “stepped chamber imparting more velocity” explanation has been pretty well debunked by people shooting them through chronographs next to similar guns with zero significant differences in velocity (with the Walther not even being the highest velocity consistently, sometimes it came in last).
It can be trained around, it can be mitigated (with things like brass back straps and or wml), but it is there regardless of people wanting to deny it. They are still good and you should try one out if you can if you are interested, but for me a cz p10 was the better choice (and not just because it costs half as much).
Does this come with plastic sights, plastic guide rod, plastic recoil spring spacer? We love plastic everywhere to maximize Walthers profits.
Steel sights, not sure on guide rod
Thanks, BK, for confirmed the name is pronounced just as it's spelled, not "Walter," as I've heard other GunTubers say. I wasn't sure because it is a German name and I don't speak German.
It is actually pronounced “Valter” or “Valtuh” depending on how rhotic your accent is because there is no equivalent to either of the English “th” sounds and W’s are V’s in German. It’s the German version of the name Walter. BK just said it that way because he was speaking to an American and that’s how the name is generally pronounced in English.
Walther makes some really nice guns. I don't know why they don't get more love in the USA than what they do.
They would get more love if they would sell a version like this with the night sights instead of a threaded barrel which half of their customers don't want. Very few people would choose a threaded barrel over night sights yet they don't offer it. They're definitely nice guns though.
Would like to see them remove the ledge under the mag release, and I would like to see them round the edges under the beaver tail similar to what Canik or CZ does. Lastly, I think the grip texture could be more aggressive.
I like my PDP, it pulls around 3lbs 9oz, and it will hit at 50-100yds all day. But, it's one of the least intuitive guns to run fast for me. I find that my P10F with ironsights can be pushed faster, and my P365XL "Specter Comp at Home" build can also be pushed faster. There's some minute details with dot behavior that are hard to explain without visual representation.
I'm going to jump on the 2011 bandwagon for a bit. See what I gain from that experience, and after that I might finally bite the bullet on something from LTT.
I haven't shot a PPQ or PDP but I'll take my CZ P10C or F over any polymer striker fire gun. Don't try a 2011, it will ruin your experience with anything else, plus your bank/wallet will hate you.
So is this the same pdp pro but with direct mount? Can we get it?
I’m curious myself.
Right when the popup for the shirt appears I posted one asking about it.
I have a pro, a compact, and Walther makes great products. HOWEVER… they would make BBBBAAAANNNKKKK if they made a micro 9 PDP. Cash in hand right now
They’re prob working on it, similar to H&K
@@Romanus- I saw that HK was but haven’t even seen any info from Walther. Have you?
Can you show the euro version of the new Rotex cans?