Sports Fans! This is the best On Court Shooting Demo I've ever been associated with. Jeremy Lin's shooting coach Doc Sheppler went over THE HOP. A MUST WATCH:
Way more pressure on the defense, WAAAY more pressure on the defense if there is a fast shooter available. ANd since the ref, referees the defense mostly, a LOT more pressure on the defense to keep PFs at a minimum by guarding closely. Now how can you teach this to young ladies who are taught to drag and shoot ALL the time.
@@bballbreakdown yeah my day we could only rely on coaches and books we had...todays age can learn from so many different people all for very cheap or mostly free. Love your work
I already teach the hop but this coach added some really cool points - don't necessarily get in triple threat right away, make the decision in the air. that split and explode is really nice. I think I'll add these points to my lessons. (and my own work outs :) ) One of the drills I do to teach "the hop" is a I have the player jump rope then I pass him the ball and as the ball's in the air, he drops the rope and continues the same rhythm of his hops catches and shoots. this drill teaches them to have an incredibly quick release. (and yes we dip, turn, sweep and sway, tea-cup, and eyes on shooting hand as the ball is in the air to the rim).
I liked the breakdown of the hop when coming off a curl. Makes sense that it squares you up much quicker. That being said it still seems to be a "1-2" in a way because one foot hits the ground before the other. Learning it as 1-2 can help prepare you for all of your moves off of the pivot both directions. Handling the ball with both hands gets focused on a lot, but ability to work off of either pivot foot takes things to another level.
There was so much knowledge in this video. Thank you. Jeremy Lin has definitely improved since last year. His shot is quicker going up and he can't be stopped from getting to the basket. After watching this video you can see where he got it from.
I think you should approach The Starters about getting a segment on their show, a lot of the same people that watch that show would really enjoy your insight into basketball, and you can really get to a wider audience, plus i think it would fit in the show nicely
Nice. The Hop doesn't have to be slower for pull up off the dribble. Think of scissoring your feet together to explode up into the shot. I think you'll wonder why you ever 1-2'd it :)
Coach Nick and coach Paul hoover are the best! Keep it the very professional and good work b-ball breakdown and pro shot system!!! I learn this like one year ago, it help me a LOT!
That right there was the best instructional video. Because the shooting coach went ten lairs deep, in the minds of the coach and players. Also it illustrates that Ray Alan just gets easy shot in transition, while Stephen Curry will be doing almost a 180's in the air for the same points. "Great Video"!!
The hop or 1-2 is more style or comfort decision for a player. If you actually hoop, you use both when needed. Every situation is different and if you are limiting your options you are behind the game. 1-2 does keep everything the same when setting up a defender with a dribble move or pull-up.Hop can be used in all catch and shoot situations like off screens and in open space because of a double team or help D. I do have to say the split and sprint was a travel every time!! Hes not putting the ball down before he sprints! A good example of a great shooter that does use the hop often is Ray Allen. TO each their own.
Hey Coach Nick. This was a great video. The hop is ideal as it is much simpler to teach than the 1-2 because players usually prefer to use their weak side foot as their pivot foot and are often uncomfortable using their strong foot as their pivot foot. I also agree that the weight transfer and balance are smoother with the hop. However, some players do shoot better off the 1-2 in my experience. Good players should be able to adapt and use the hop or 1-2 based upon different variables. The kid in the video is a good shooter but I think he would be a more efficient shooter if he loaded his shooting wrist early instead of pushing the ball down on his dip. Great video!!!
you know what? I've tried many footwork drills to speed up my player's shot over 12 seasons and never thought of doing the foot fire/quick feet drill into the shot. thanks for this!
Coach Nick, can you talk more about where the shooter should be looking, how he should follow through, and where his (shoulders,hips,feet,) should be pointed?
This video sums up the advantage of the hop. But unwittingly, it also highlights some key disadvantages. The hop is oriented towards catch and shoot, with the drive being an after-thought. The 1-2 places the offensive player in a much better position to drive, pass and fake; you will not get the shot off as fast, but you will make other options more effective and credible and this will increase your ability to score and pass in different ways and ultimately increase your and your team's shooting percentage. In my view, the hop should be utilized only when the player KNOWS that they are going to get the jumper off -- i.e. they know they have the space to get the shot off. 1-2 will be more effective if you need to CREATE space by driving, faking the drive for faking the jump-shot.
But now we can talk about the limitations of attacking with the 1-2. When u use it, you are now limited to only one pivot foot and one driving foot. With the hop, you haven't established which pivot. The one dribble pull up to the left, using 1-2, has always been a rushed motion, without little rhythm. With the hop, you can now step with the left foot, then plant the right and finish the 1-2 with the left. Better rhythm, more space away from the defender.
BBALLBREAKDOWN When a sprinter is about to sprint the legs are in a 1-2 type position, with weight more distributed on one leg than the other. There is no way that you can get as powerful a drive to either side if you have weight equally distributed on both legs. While you are correct to point out that the hop enables you to take the first step towards the basket with either leg, it is also true that that first step will be less fast and powerful. Another thing is that when the player is running fast laterally to the basket to receive a pass it is very difficult to achieve the right balance with the hop -- there will be a tendency for the player to be off balance or to drift during the shot. So, while I agree that there are trade-offs to using the hop or 1-2, I think that in general, from a triple threat perspective, the 1-2 is more versatile and effective overall. But again, if you know you are open and will shoot, the hop has advantages. So, I think ideally a player should learn to use both.
As a defender I hope the offensive player catches and gets into triple threat. That allows me and my defense to get organized. Catching in split sprint position and making an instant shoot, drive, or pass decision on the closeout is much harder to guard. This creates an offensive advantage by attacking a disorganized defense. Personally believe anyone who is teaching triple threat on the catch is doing a disservice to the player.
Dave Lepisto Dave, in the context of this particular discussion, that is not the case. The context here is the difference between the 1-2 and the hop. When you catch in the 1-2 context you are, in fact, in a sprint position and ready to explode if the defense is off guard. By the same token, when you go from the split-sprint position in the 1-2 to the triple threat, you force the defender to guard the shot -- i.e. you are setting up a head-fake. So getting into the triple threat from the 1-2 split sprint is basically a move that will totally destabilize the defender if used properly. If you have created space between yourself and the defender prior to receiving the ball, the defender will have to close the gap quickly and you can blow past him on a drive or head fake and drive. If the defender does not close the gap quickly, you've got an open jumper. So, the advantage of triple threat is clear. The question here is whether it is more effective to go into triple threat from the hop or from the sprint-split via the 1-2. I have made the case here that the 1-2 option makes the player more versatile and dangerous because the drive option will be much faster and more powerful.
great video coach, much apreciated, in game i do a lot of catch and shoot and this has helped me so much. now its time to work. btw im portuguese and im about to have practise, so im going to shoot a lot better with this hopefuly
Well do, I remember while back when you posted the video about the dip,turn,hop, and all that I practiced and I became a great shooter. I will gladly keep you updated, just please get videos out like this, Im willing to make it to the next level.
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I wish you could make similar video about shooting off dribble. In particular, I have mixed feelings about mid-range jumpers. When you get the ball at the three-point line and you go by your defender you can either try to attack the rim or pull up a shot from mid-range. In situations like these you have to act fast and that's the reason why some players shoot differently from mid-range. Just want to check what others think about that.
Coach this has been one of the best videos I've seen, great job. On top of having ur usual conversation here on TH-cam, have u ever thought of touring around North America, providing sessions on shooting techniques? If there's going to be one in my city, I'll be the first to sign up.
The hop is a pretty good idea in terms of catch and release but what Danny Granger said 2 or 3 videos before this was a valid point too. The 1-2 step shot gives you a quick driving threat as well as a shot AND you can also shoot on a defender who's tight on you off a cut/screen if you go down as you go into the 1-2 step and elevate if he keeps moving. The 1-2 if done with a dip also allows for elevating as soon as you catch it though the hop step is probably faster. My question --> Why do you have to pick one? I could do both when I palyed a few years back and used both in my arsenal of moves. I was a good set shooter (went to a decently high level, though not enough to play for my country that's for sure) but I could do both depending and would adjust depending on the circumstance. I trained quite a bit, but NBA/college players would definitely do more (or at least just as much - I did about an hour of shooting a day 5 days a week) so why can't they perfect both?
I was a strict 1-2 coach for 15 years, thinking the hop was too slow. Then I started studying it and realized all the benefits of the hop. I believe it's quicker, more balanced, and more explosive than the 1-2. I also ascribe to KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid. So if I can develop a shot that is more balanced and quicker, why would I spend time shooting it another way?
on an amateur level and when you are trying to drill fundamentals, you want to keep things as simple as possible. And if you can somehow relate those mechanics to somewhat advanced ones like read and react, then its like hitting 2 birds with one stone in training efficiency. Of course on a pro level when your salary can afford you personal coaches to fix things you do in your livelihood, you can explore more options.
I agree it is more balanced and more explosive than the 1-2 if you can do both with perfection. But as I said, the 1-2 provides a few other options such as being able to explode to the ring, or, once that threat is established, fake a drive with your head/body and go straight up leaving your defender flat footed and unable to contest the shot. Question still applies - why not do both and get the best of both worlds? Makes you more unpredictable as defences won't be able to read what you're doing and you can get the best of both worlds. And you don't have to be a pro to train like one - I played as hard as possible at the highest level I could (before I got sick) about 4 or 5 years ago, and could figure out the benefits of both these shooting styles in my head, or get this kind of info from my coaches. Players aren't confined to one coach's words and teachings these days with the internet at their fingertips and they aren't all just dumb athletes who can't figure things out for themselves.
Nikhil Autar Everyone has time constraints and depending on the level of the guys you are coaching, you want to start off with something simple. I'm not attacking the point of not doing both but the point where if you had a choice to start training one or the other with a young amateur team with little to no experience and needs drilling in fundamentals, teaching the hop approach to me is better to integrate first. If you as a player went out of way to train for 1-2 while training for this, then even better and definitely for your own benefit.
Hello The was great but did not mention anything about shooting off the dribble, will there be a follow video or response in regards to off the dribble ?
You can toss the ball out in front of you with a lot of back spin so it bounces right back to you. Not a perfect solution, but it'll work. They also have those nets you can use that bounce the ball right back to you...
Really need to emphasize on the hop BEFORE you catch the ball. Sometimes it looks like the kid catches the ball and then hops, that's a travel, obviously.
Yes, sometimes refs can be mean though. haha There was this kid that was a really good player that I seen play a few times and he did what was demonstrated here. I never seen him get called for a travel and to me it always looked like he did. When it came to the qualifying tournament for the state tournament, yup, refs started calling travel on him. So I just thought I throw out there as any kind of coach just emphasize on the hop before catching the ball. Nice vid though on this technique =D We seem to always see guard moves. Let's see some post game coach.
BBALLBREAKDOWN Would that really be a travel though? I thought it was ok, for instance, to terminate a dribble-drive with a jump stop. Seems like these days taking two steps is the same as taking one step and a jump stop.
If u can take 2 steps in general u can hop(2inches off the ground). Not a travel. I'll catch the ball n take a 1-2 side step b4 I shoot n it's not a travel. Remember u can catch the ball on a drive n take 2 steps u can do it on a shot
nope. 1 motion and 2 motion shot are pretty much the same in effectiveness. Younger or female players use 1 motion because they don't have the needed upper body strength for a 2 motion.
We showed it towards the end - I really like the hop when cutting away from the hoop - a great way to shift momentum back towards the basket. I used to spend weeks trying to train HS players to 1-2 on a curl, and some guys never got it.
Very interesting video coach, some intriguing shooting tips and theory. I can definitely see the speed improvement that comes from the hop versus the 1-2 and the benefit of using the hop in catch and shoot situations - after all, why would you go to triple threat first and then look to shoot when there's nothing lost by looking to shoot first and then going to triple threat. What I'm curious about is the addition of reading the defense and hopping into a wider stance for a drive. I can definitely see the way foot placement coming out of the hop can vastly increase the speed of your burst - I know Olajuwon used to do something very similar in the post to allow him to spin past defenders after catching the ball. With Olajuwon's move, however, he didn't really lose much in way of offensive options by hopping into a wider stance since he was close enough to the basket to use other post moves and already playing with his back to the basket. In a shooter's case though, jumping into a wide stance results in completely giving up the option of the quick shot, and also giving up most quick passing options since your balance is tilted, preventing you from getting good force on the pass. It also means that if the drive isn't there, you've given up a lot of your triple threat options since you'll have to pivot/take a step to get back into triple threat. So my question is, how reliably can players make the correct read in such a short time (the hop is quite quick as you pointed out) during a game-time situation?
I think that Monta Ellis is the best example of this, he almost never stops when he gets a ball (no that triple threat stance), it is either a drive to the hoop or a shot... and if im not wrong, he led the NBA in points off drives, and this dude tends to shoot more... it's just that he drives most of the time, but he is a more than a fair shooter from mid range, and now he's in Dallas, he takes waaay less bad shots... Pls correct me if im wrong :)
AWESOME Video! Going to watch it again to pick up on anything I missed. Coach any ideas on drills one can do to practice reacting? You think having a cone, bouncing the ball to yourself, and then mixing it up on whether to shoot or drive will suffice?
That can work, but it's always better to simulate games as much as possible by having someone pass to you. There are tons of fancy drills out there, but I prefer to isolate the exact movement of a game and drill that. Have the defense close out short for the shot, then have defense close out and go for shot fake.
What do you do with a high post flash or high post catch turn and shoot? All my losses are against zone. I’m teaching 1-2 stel this year in the high post. Seems Unavoidable.
Coach help! Should your right foot (when shooting right-handed) be more forward than your left foot and how much? I've heard different coaches say different things about this, some saying it should not be at all ahead of the left foot, some say it should be half foot forward. What do you say?
For Free Throws, I always taught to have the left toe even with the middle of the right foot. On jump shots, you can also use this same alignment, see if it feels comfortable.
I'd be interested to know other techniques from other shooting coaches. I've read Chip Engelland's one heck of a shooting coach (Shane Battier being one of his pupil). I think, in the end, shooting form is much like your signature. Larry Bird and Reggie Miller both had very awkward but effective shooting forms. I think hops would be a bad idea for a big man going for a catch-and-shoot. Bill Laimbeer was probably the best perimeter-shooting big men in the NBA, and he had this cute, tippy-toe line drive shot.
You should hop after you have the ball in your hands. Since the hop also involves turning towards the rim, if you hop before you catch the ball, you may possibly be turning away from the ball before it is caught, meaning you might drop the pass. Also its pretty hard to hop, turn AND catch a ball in one motion My insight is that when you catch the ball, you are most likely going to be on one foot - that is the foot that initiates the hop. Situations where you would initiate a hop off 2 feet are if you are standing still when you receive the pass.
Tommy Dang No. If you hop after you've already received the ball and land, that is a travel. You hop while the pass is in the air so that when you land, you have the ball and are ready to shoot.
Hey coach nick, i have a question, im 13 years old, i dont mean to brag but im a pretty good shooter. I need to be more aggressive, are there any drills or tricks that can help me with it?
My issue is hopping after the initial catch. While I understand the idea is to be off the ground when you catch the ball to enable you to create more space it simply isn't the case 90% of the time. Look carefully at most of his catches, his feet are on the ground, then he hops. How is that not a travel?
Right! but the problem is they jump of two feet often also. i see klay doing it all the time. jumps off two feet lands on two feet. thats an up and down lol.
shooting is mainly about rhythm and balance. you can achieve it with a hop or a 1-2. Kobe is a perfect example of how you can have great footwork with a 1-2
I'm a huge Kobe fan and I learned how to hoop by watching him play, but Kobe is a terrible spot up shooter. If anything, he's a good example for why the 1-2 isn't as well suited to shooting off the catch. The 1-2 is really good for getting on balance on dribble-drive pull ups and, incidentally, using the 1-2 I'm more comfortable with midrange pull ups than catch-and-shoot situations.
Is there any way you could incorporate some slow motion replays into your videos.. like on the part where he catches the ball while in the air, it's kind of hard to really see if his feet are fully off the ground or not, so it might be a whole lot better if we could see it broken down in slow motion.. other then that great video!
At the very beginning he was doing his hop after he caught the ball, is that not a travel? The hop seems great but only if you are in the air at the same time as the ball and you catch the pass on the way down from your hop, if you do a hop after the catch that has to a travel doesn't it?
@@bballbreakdown There were many travels. Usually, he catches the ball from a stationary position, then hops into the shot, which is a travel. It's a travel based on NBA rules, NCAA, and high school. You cannot establish a new pivot foot after catching the ball from in stationary position without taking a dribble. However, it would never be called in the NBA (they are super lax on the rules) and it would be hard to get called anywhere else because of how quickly and fluidly he's doing it. When the Machine Gun drill is demonstrated, he does it correctly where he catches it in the air during his hop, which is not a travel. I'm from the USA btw.
I'm confused, my college coach got annoyed with the hop but i have a very quick 1-2. When you curl you cant hop can you? I also think its more of a rhythm drop hes doing vs a hop which is the correct way to do it.
The "heel toe" (planting your feet first) has been around for years and is still used by the top players all over the world. Not saying the hop don't work but they shouldn't be down playing planting your feet instead of the hop.
You hop to receive the ball. You hop, receive ball, turn and then land. It allows you to get ready for the drive or then triple threat. Its faster than running and catching then dribble pivot or just stop pivot.
Would have been nice to see how a defender plays a guy who's a "hopper" vs a 1-2. Seems like you need space for this to be effective. I can see this being very effective coming off a screen on the perimeter, but it's very natural to go 1-2 the closer to the basket you are. Are there players that use this in the NBA or University that you can recommend we watch? To me this looks a bit like a Deron Williams or Clay Thompson move.
I've asked this on another video and no response a while back. How about asking nba players about pushing or swinging the arm when shooting? Stephen Curry is a great example for breaking this down. A question like this would be different for once rather then the same old questions.
Sure, the hop is quicker off the catch and shoot, but different methods work better for different players, and the 1-2 can be very quick if you are good at getting it off.
only if you've been doing for a LONG time. Just like how when decent shooters square their feet to the goal. They're only decent shooters because they've been squaring their feet for a LONG time.
i think the one two is good if your running fast coming off a screen or in transition. it stops you better in my opinion. or if your coming of a screen and have to turn around 180 to face the basket.
also, I have trouble with the "index finger" as the most important finger on the shot. I don't have NBA hands. Can I use my middle finger as the follow through finger or will it not be flexible enough? I don't feel like I can grip the ball
Sports Fans! This is the best On Court Shooting Demo I've ever been associated with. Jeremy Lin's shooting coach Doc Sheppler went over THE HOP. A MUST WATCH:
Way more pressure on the defense, WAAAY more pressure on the defense if there is a fast shooter available. ANd since the ref, referees the defense mostly, a LOT more pressure on the defense to keep PFs at a minimum by guarding closely. Now how can you teach this to young ladies who are taught to drag and shoot ALL the time.
***** I don't know about you, but it's definitely more entertaining than a bunch of guys in high shorts running around kicking a ball back and forth.
Checkout my video if you want to become a better shooter! Randy Booker: (**UNCUT/NO-EDIT**) Makes 26 Jumpers IN A ROW!!! 32/33 Overall!!
watched this the other day, tried to adopt these things and made 5 of 6 jump shots in todays game :D the hop really helped me, thanks coach!
I wish i found videos like this when I was playing HS ball
ME TOO!!!!!
@@bballbreakdown yeah my day we could only rely on coaches and books we had...todays age can learn from so many different people all for very cheap or mostly free. Love your work
This was maybe the most informative video I've seen on your channel. Nice Job
I already teach the hop but this coach added some really cool points - don't necessarily get in triple threat right away, make the decision in the air. that split and explode is really nice. I think I'll add these points to my lessons. (and my own work outs :) )
One of the drills I do to teach "the hop" is a I have the player jump rope then I pass him the ball and as the ball's in the air, he drops the rope and continues the same rhythm of his hops catches and shoots. this drill teaches them to have an incredibly quick release. (and yes we dip, turn, sweep and sway, tea-cup, and eyes on shooting hand as the ball is in the air to the rim).
One of the best coaching videos there is. Really appreciate the information here, explained really well and thorough.
I liked the breakdown of the hop when coming off a curl. Makes sense that it squares you up much quicker. That being said it still seems to be a "1-2" in a way because one foot hits the ground before the other. Learning it as 1-2 can help prepare you for all of your moves off of the pivot both directions. Handling the ball with both hands gets focused on a lot, but ability to work off of either pivot foot takes things to another level.
To me, it's a hop if you're in the air when you catch it.
i always have tough time decide either to catch and shoot or catch and dribble, thanks for the explanation.
Love from Malaysia.
good knowledge to pass down. footwork looks legit too.
The is easily one the best basketball shooting tutorial available on the Web. Thanks Coach Nick. Love your work.
There was so much knowledge in this video. Thank you. Jeremy Lin has definitely improved since last year. His shot is quicker going up and he can't be stopped from getting to the basket. After watching this video you can see where he got it from.
I think you should approach The Starters about getting a segment on their show, a lot of the same people that watch that show would really enjoy your insight into basketball, and you can really get to a wider audience, plus i think it would fit in the show nicely
I agree.
Definitely one of top 3 conversations at bballbreakdown! Great job coach!
Great video, good motivation for practice. It's all about everyday training till you get it right and feel comfortable shooting.
Best on court shooting video i've seen so far. great stuff coach! keep up the great work and congrats!
For me, the hop is good for creating space and covering more ground while the 1-2 is quicker for pullup jumpers.
Nice. The Hop doesn't have to be slower for pull up off the dribble. Think of scissoring your feet together to explode up into the shot. I think you'll wonder why you ever 1-2'd it :)
Coach Nick and coach Paul hoover are the best! Keep it the very professional and good work b-ball breakdown and pro shot system!!! I learn this like one year ago, it help me a LOT!
That is awesome!
it is! just keep the good work coach
That right there was the best instructional video. Because the shooting coach went ten lairs deep, in the minds of the coach and players. Also it illustrates that Ray Alan just gets easy shot in transition, while Stephen Curry will be doing almost a 180's in the air for the same points. "Great Video"!!
Doc is incredible.
Excellent! You don't have to jump 3 feet off the ground to get your shot off! In fact just a few inches is best! Way to teach the youngsters!
Thanks! #ImIn
that was really enlightening. Thanks, Coach Nick, I'm totally in
Awesome. LOTS more coming up soon!
The hop or 1-2 is more style or comfort decision for a player. If you actually hoop, you use both when needed. Every situation is different and if you are limiting your options you are behind the game. 1-2 does keep everything the same when setting up a defender with a dribble move or pull-up.Hop can be used in all catch and shoot situations like off screens and in open space because of a double team or help D. I do have to say the split and sprint was a travel every time!! Hes not putting the ball down before he sprints! A good example of a great shooter that does use the hop often is Ray Allen. TO each their own.
Coach this is great, we start this next practice!
awesome! best video i have seen on this channel so far!
Coach can you break down the offensive call on Lowry against the the Sac Kings last night ?
Stand by, getting Ronnie on it right now
nice quote here - Great shooter, must plan to shoot every time they catch the ball
This is the old Ralph Miller ( Oregon State) using the jump stop on the catch ready to shoot. More players should use it.
Hey Coach Nick. This was a great video. The hop is ideal as it is much simpler to teach than the 1-2 because players usually prefer to use their weak side foot as their pivot foot and are often uncomfortable using their strong foot as their pivot foot. I also agree that the weight transfer and balance are smoother with the hop. However, some players do shoot better off the 1-2 in my experience. Good players should be able to adapt and use the hop or 1-2 based upon different variables. The kid in the video is a good shooter but I think he would be a more efficient shooter if he loaded his shooting wrist early instead of pushing the ball down on his dip. Great video!!!
you know what? I've tried many footwork drills to speed up my player's shot over 12 seasons and never thought of doing the foot fire/quick feet drill into the shot. thanks for this!
Good video and great step by step instructions.
Coach Nick, can you talk more about where the shooter should be looking, how he should follow through, and where his (shoulders,hips,feet,) should be pointed?
Wow, what a great demo Coach! thanks
This video sums up the advantage of the hop. But unwittingly, it also highlights some key disadvantages. The hop is oriented towards catch and shoot, with the drive being an after-thought. The 1-2 places the offensive player in a much better position to drive, pass and fake; you will not get the shot off as fast, but you will make other options more effective and credible and this will increase your ability to score and pass in different ways and ultimately increase your and your team's shooting percentage. In my view, the hop should be utilized only when the player KNOWS that they are going to get the jumper off -- i.e. they know they have the space to get the shot off. 1-2 will be more effective if you need to CREATE space by driving, faking the drive for faking the jump-shot.
But now we can talk about the limitations of attacking with the 1-2. When u use it, you are now limited to only one pivot foot and one driving foot. With the hop, you haven't established which pivot. The one dribble pull up to the left, using 1-2, has always been a rushed motion, without little rhythm. With the hop, you can now step with the left foot, then plant the right and finish the 1-2 with the left. Better rhythm, more space away from the defender.
BBALLBREAKDOWN When a sprinter is about to sprint the legs are in a 1-2 type position, with weight more distributed on one leg than the other. There is no way that you can get as powerful a drive to either side if you have weight equally distributed on both legs. While you are correct to point out that the hop enables you to take the first step towards the basket with either leg, it is also true that that first step will be less fast and powerful. Another thing is that when the player is running fast laterally to the basket to receive a pass it is very difficult to achieve the right balance with the hop -- there will be a tendency for the player to be off balance or to drift during the shot. So, while I agree that there are trade-offs to using the hop or 1-2, I think that in general, from a triple threat perspective, the 1-2 is more versatile and effective overall. But again, if you know you are open and will shoot, the hop has advantages. So, I think ideally a player should learn to use both.
Thats why you split and sprint
As a defender I hope the offensive player catches and gets into triple threat. That allows me and my defense to get organized. Catching in split sprint position and making an instant shoot, drive, or pass decision on the closeout is much harder to guard. This creates an offensive advantage by attacking a disorganized defense. Personally believe anyone who is teaching triple threat on the catch is doing a disservice to the player.
Dave Lepisto Dave, in the context of this particular discussion, that is not the case. The context here is the difference between the 1-2 and the hop. When you catch in the 1-2 context you are, in fact, in a sprint position and ready to explode if the defense is off guard. By the same token, when you go from the split-sprint position in the 1-2 to the triple threat, you force the defender to guard the shot -- i.e. you are setting up a head-fake. So getting into the triple threat from the 1-2 split sprint is basically a move that will totally destabilize the defender if used properly. If you have created space between yourself and the defender prior to receiving the ball, the defender will have to close the gap quickly and you can blow past him on a drive or head fake and drive. If the defender does not close the gap quickly, you've got an open jumper. So, the advantage of triple threat is clear. The question here is whether it is more effective to go into triple threat from the hop or from the sprint-split via the 1-2. I have made the case here that the 1-2 option makes the player more versatile and dangerous because the drive option will be much faster and more powerful.
great video coach, much apreciated, in game i do a lot of catch and shoot and this has helped me so much. now its time to work. btw im portuguese and im about to have practise, so im going to shoot a lot better with this hopefuly
This was really useful, thanks coach
Thanks! Let me know how it goes...
This helps soooo much off of curls thanks coach
Hi, Coach
Great video. Thanks for sharing it.
How do you do the hop and shoot off the dribble instead of the pass?
Great Video!! Can't Wait to practice this, I hope more videos like this will be released !!
Keep me updated on your progress! Lots more of these will be released in the following weeks.
Well do, I remember while back when you posted the video about the dip,turn,hop, and all that I practiced and I became a great shooter. I will gladly keep you updated, just please get videos out like this, Im willing to make it to the next level.
I wish you could make similar video about shooting off dribble. In particular, I have mixed feelings about mid-range jumpers. When you get the ball at the three-point line and you go by your defender you can either try to attack the rim or pull up a shot from mid-range. In situations like these you have to act fast and that's the reason why some players shoot differently from mid-range. Just want to check what others think about that.
Oh man, killer video Coach!
Great job coach! We like that kind of stuff!
Amazing and doesnt seem to difficuot to learn
Great video!! One of the most informative and educational video on shooting and reading defense. Now you don't need even need to read. Just react!
YES!
Coach this has been one of the best videos I've seen, great job. On top of having ur usual conversation here on TH-cam, have u ever thought of touring around North America, providing sessions on shooting techniques? If there's going to be one in my city, I'll be the first to sign up.
Thanks! I'm working on this, so stay tuned!
good stuff, adding a new insight for my game, thx coach.
Great video, really informative. Thanks for the lessons!
Great video, coach!
The hop is a pretty good idea in terms of catch and release but what Danny Granger said 2 or 3 videos before this was a valid point too. The 1-2 step shot gives you a quick driving threat as well as a shot AND you can also shoot on a defender who's tight on you off a cut/screen if you go down as you go into the 1-2 step and elevate if he keeps moving.
The 1-2 if done with a dip also allows for elevating as soon as you catch it though the hop step is probably faster.
My question --> Why do you have to pick one? I could do both when I palyed a few years back and used both in my arsenal of moves. I was a good set shooter (went to a decently high level, though not enough to play for my country that's for sure) but I could do both depending and would adjust depending on the circumstance.
I trained quite a bit, but NBA/college players would definitely do more (or at least just as much - I did about an hour of shooting a day 5 days a week) so why can't they perfect both?
I was a strict 1-2 coach for 15 years, thinking the hop was too slow. Then I started studying it and realized all the benefits of the hop. I believe it's quicker, more balanced, and more explosive than the 1-2. I also ascribe to KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid. So if I can develop a shot that is more balanced and quicker, why would I spend time shooting it another way?
on an amateur level and when you are trying to drill fundamentals, you want to keep things as simple as possible. And if you can somehow relate those mechanics to somewhat advanced ones like read and react, then its like hitting 2 birds with one stone in training efficiency. Of course on a pro level when your salary can afford you personal coaches to fix things you do in your livelihood, you can explore more options.
I agree it is more balanced and more explosive than the 1-2 if you can do both with perfection. But as I said, the 1-2 provides a few other options such as being able to explode to the ring, or, once that threat is established, fake a drive with your head/body and go straight up leaving your defender flat footed and unable to contest the shot.
Question still applies - why not do both and get the best of both worlds? Makes you more unpredictable as defences won't be able to read what you're doing and you can get the best of both worlds.
And you don't have to be a pro to train like one - I played as hard as possible at the highest level I could (before I got sick) about 4 or 5 years ago, and could figure out the benefits of both these shooting styles in my head, or get this kind of info from my coaches. Players aren't confined to one coach's words and teachings these days with the internet at their fingertips and they aren't all just dumb athletes who can't figure things out for themselves.
Nikhil Autar Everyone has time constraints and depending on the level of the guys you are coaching, you want to start off with something simple. I'm not attacking the point of not doing both but the point where if you had a choice to start training one or the other with a young amateur team with little to no experience and needs drilling in fundamentals, teaching the hop approach to me is better to integrate first. If you as a player went out of way to train for 1-2 while training for this, then even better and definitely for your own benefit.
Mmhm fair enough I see where you guys are coming from, from a coach's perspective.
Grade2efficient
Hello
The was great but did not mention anything about shooting off the dribble, will there be a follow video or response in regards to off the dribble ?
Coach Nick! What if doing a video on passing as well. Stuffs like spinning of the ball when passing!
great video coach, but it's a lot harder practicing this by yourself at the gym. any recommendations?
You can toss the ball out in front of you with a lot of back spin so it bounces right back to you. Not a perfect solution, but it'll work. They also have those nets you can use that bounce the ball right back to you...
Really need to emphasize on the hop BEFORE you catch the ball. Sometimes it looks like the kid catches the ball and then hops, that's a travel, obviously.
Yeah, he skirts the fine line, but as refs get used to it, you get some leeway
Yes, sometimes refs can be mean though. haha There was this kid that was a really good player that I seen play a few times and he did what was demonstrated here. I never seen him get called for a travel and to me it always looked like he did. When it came to the qualifying tournament for the state tournament, yup, refs started calling travel on him. So I just thought I throw out there as any kind of coach just emphasize on the hop before catching the ball. Nice vid though on this technique =D We seem to always see guard moves. Let's see some post game coach.
BBALLBREAKDOWN Would that really be a travel though? I thought it was ok, for instance, to terminate a dribble-drive with a jump stop. Seems like these days taking two steps is the same as taking one step and a jump stop.
If u can take 2 steps in general u can hop(2inches off the ground). Not a travel.
I'll catch the ball n take a 1-2 side step b4 I shoot n it's not a travel.
Remember u can catch the ball on a drive n take 2 steps u can do it on a shot
Thanks Coach!
Coach Nick the work with the foot iw very good but I think the player must work also with the one motion shoot...whta do you think?
nope. 1 motion and 2 motion shot are pretty much the same in effectiveness. Younger or female players use 1 motion because they don't have the needed upper body strength for a 2 motion.
Coach Nick; what about from baseline Pin-down? Hop or 1-2 stop?
We showed it towards the end - I really like the hop when cutting away from the hoop - a great way to shift momentum back towards the basket. I used to spend weeks trying to train HS players to 1-2 on a curl, and some guys never got it.
coach nick had some FUNDAMENTAL passes
Absolutely terrific!
ive been using the hop it works great
thanks coach it really made me proud of my team
i have almost 20 points in jump shots :)
Very interesting video coach, some intriguing shooting tips and theory. I can definitely see the speed improvement that comes from the hop versus the 1-2 and the benefit of using the hop in catch and shoot situations - after all, why would you go to triple threat first and then look to shoot when there's nothing lost by looking to shoot first and then going to triple threat. What I'm curious about is the addition of reading the defense and hopping into a wider stance for a drive. I can definitely see the way foot placement coming out of the hop can vastly increase the speed of your burst - I know Olajuwon used to do something very similar in the post to allow him to spin past defenders after catching the ball. With Olajuwon's move, however, he didn't really lose much in way of offensive options by hopping into a wider stance since he was close enough to the basket to use other post moves and already playing with his back to the basket. In a shooter's case though, jumping into a wide stance results in completely giving up the option of the quick shot, and also giving up most quick passing options since your balance is tilted, preventing you from getting good force on the pass. It also means that if the drive isn't there, you've given up a lot of your triple threat options since you'll have to pivot/take a step to get back into triple threat. So my question is, how reliably can players make the correct read in such a short time (the hop is quite quick as you pointed out) during a game-time situation?
i love your channel man so helpful!
I think that Monta Ellis is the best example of this, he almost never stops when he gets a ball (no that triple threat stance), it is either a drive to the hoop or a shot... and if im not wrong, he led the NBA in points off drives, and this dude tends to shoot more... it's just that he drives most of the time, but he is a more than a fair shooter from mid range, and now he's in Dallas, he takes waaay less bad shots... Pls correct me if im wrong :)
thanks coach
coach nick, what about shooting off the dribble? that coach never said anything about that. please reply. great video btw.
Great video coach.
Thanks! You trying The Hop?
I've been notorious for the 1-2, but he made some really great points. Certainly gonna give it a try.
AWESOME Video! Going to watch it again to pick up on anything I missed.
Coach any ideas on drills one can do to practice reacting? You think having a cone, bouncing the ball to yourself, and then mixing it up on whether to shoot or drive will suffice?
That can work, but it's always better to simulate games as much as possible by having someone pass to you. There are tons of fancy drills out there, but I prefer to isolate the exact movement of a game and drill that. Have the defense close out short for the shot, then have defense close out and go for shot fake.
What do you do with a high post flash or high post catch turn and shoot? All my losses are against zone. I’m teaching 1-2 stel this year in the high post. Seems Unavoidable.
Great video. I thought David "DJ" Jones was Jeremy Lin's Shot doctor. He was the guy responsible for Linsanity.
I just watched this damn Game of Arms commercial 4 times in a row, with about 3 minutes of actual desired video play.
Coach help! Should your right foot (when shooting right-handed) be more forward than your left foot and how much? I've heard different coaches say different things about this, some saying it should not be at all ahead of the left foot, some say it should be half foot forward. What do you say?
For Free Throws, I always taught to have the left toe even with the middle of the right foot. On jump shots, you can also use this same alignment, see if it feels comfortable.
BBALLBREAKDOWN Thanks a lot. I was wondering why my current coach keeps saying that my feet should be even.
This is great
Awesome stuff, thanks.
It's all about Practice!
I'd be interested to know other techniques from other shooting coaches. I've read Chip Engelland's one heck of a shooting coach (Shane Battier being one of his pupil). I think, in the end, shooting form is much like your signature. Larry Bird and Reggie Miller both had very awkward but effective shooting forms. I think hops would be a bad idea for a big man going for a catch-and-shoot. Bill Laimbeer was probably the best perimeter-shooting big men in the NBA, and he had this cute, tippy-toe line drive shot.
Just a question coach? Are you suppose to hop after you receive the ball? Same time? Or before catching the ball?
You should hop after you have the ball in your hands. Since the hop also involves turning towards the rim, if you hop before you catch the ball, you may possibly be turning away from the ball before it is caught, meaning you might drop the pass. Also its pretty hard to hop, turn AND catch a ball in one motion
My insight is that when you catch the ball, you are most likely going to be on one foot - that is the foot that initiates the hop. Situations where you would initiate a hop off 2 feet are if you are standing still when you receive the pass.
Tommy Dang No. If you hop after you've already received the ball and land, that is a travel. You hop while the pass is in the air so that when you land, you have the ball and are ready to shoot.
"Ball's in the air, you're in the air"
Thanks guys!
great video
Hey coach nick, i have a question, im 13 years old, i dont mean to brag but im a pretty good shooter. I need to be more aggressive, are there any drills or tricks that can help me with it?
So educational.
My issue is hopping after the initial catch. While I understand the idea is to be off the ground when you catch the ball to enable you to create more space it simply isn't the case 90% of the time. Look carefully at most of his catches, his feet are on the ground, then he hops. How is that not a travel?
if you pay attention to nba and college the traveling violation is pretty much out the window nowadays its pretty pathetic!
As long as both feet land at the same time refs will not call a travel
Right! but the problem is they jump of two feet often also. i see klay doing it all the time. jumps off two feet lands on two feet. thats an up and down lol.
The art of competition it's not two feet . I understand what you mean but it's not. Due to not having the ball when your jumping .
no no no im saying he does have the ball
to do the catch in air with the bounce without fall out of balance in high speed going for a shot in a 1.2 look without do travel
shooting is mainly about rhythm and balance. you can achieve it with a hop or a 1-2. Kobe is a perfect example of how you can have great footwork with a 1-2
I'm a huge Kobe fan and I learned how to hoop by watching him play, but Kobe is a terrible spot up shooter. If anything, he's a good example for why the 1-2 isn't as well suited to shooting off the catch. The 1-2 is really good for getting on balance on dribble-drive pull ups and, incidentally, using the 1-2 I'm more comfortable with midrange pull ups than catch-and-shoot situations.
Is there any way you could incorporate some slow motion replays into your videos.. like on the part where he catches the ball while in the air, it's kind of hard to really see if his feet are fully off the ground or not, so it might be a whole lot better if we could see it broken down in slow motion.. other then that great video!
thought the completely same thing lol
The hop is awesome
YES!
Right on
Very informational!
At the very beginning he was doing his hop after he caught the ball, is that not a travel? The hop seems great but only if you are in the air at the same time as the ball and you catch the pass on the way down from your hop, if you do a hop after the catch that has to a travel doesn't it?
many many travels in this video
Actually, there wasn't one - are you from Europe?
@@bballbreakdown There were many travels. Usually, he catches the ball from a stationary position, then hops into the shot, which is a travel. It's a travel based on NBA rules, NCAA, and high school. You cannot establish a new pivot foot after catching the ball from in stationary position without taking a dribble.
However, it would never be called in the NBA (they are super lax on the rules) and it would be hard to get called anywhere else because of how quickly and fluidly he's doing it.
When the Machine Gun drill is demonstrated, he does it correctly where he catches it in the air during his hop, which is not a travel.
I'm from the USA btw.
I'm confused, my college coach got annoyed with the hop but i have a very quick 1-2. When you curl you cant hop can you? I also think its more of a rhythm drop hes doing vs a hop which is the correct way to do it.
I believe learning how to catch with 1-2 step is equally important than catch & shoot.
You'll be surprised when we release all our data and analysis comparing the two. You might not go back to 1-2!
The "heel toe" (planting your feet first) has been around for years and is still used by the top players all over the world. Not saying the hop don't work but they shouldn't be down playing planting your feet instead of the hop.
I think you'd be surprised how often the hop is used in the NBA. I'd say it's half the time.
your best video
You hop to receive the ball. You hop, receive ball, turn and then land. It allows you to get ready for the drive or then triple threat.
Its faster than running and catching then dribble pivot or just stop pivot.
YUP
Would have been nice to see how a defender plays a guy who's a "hopper" vs a 1-2. Seems like you need space for this to be effective. I can see this being very effective coming off a screen on the perimeter, but it's very natural to go 1-2 the closer to the basket you are. Are there players that use this in the NBA or University that you can recommend we watch? To me this looks a bit like a Deron Williams or Clay Thompson move.
I've asked this on another video and no response a while back. How about asking nba players about pushing or swinging the arm when shooting? Stephen Curry is a great example for breaking this down. A question like this would be different for once rather then the same old questions.
The Hop is good but you need both....because on a pull up you have to 1 2 unless youre just a spot up shooter
Hats not true. Watch how Steph Curry explodes off the dribble using the hop. It's a thing of beauty.
If only I knew this in high school..
Great Video
Thanks
The beautiful thing about the hop is you can make either foot your pivot foot.
YES!
And pump fake drive off slow rotation
Sure, the hop is quicker off the catch and shoot, but different methods work better for different players, and the 1-2 can be very quick if you are good at getting it off.
only if you've been doing for a LONG time. Just like how when decent shooters square their feet to the goal. They're only decent shooters because they've been squaring their feet for a LONG time.
i think the one two is good if your running fast coming off a screen or in transition. it stops you better in my opinion. or if your coming of a screen and have to turn around 180 to face the basket.
also, I have trouble with the "index finger" as the most important finger on the shot. I don't have NBA hands. Can I use my middle finger as the follow through finger or will it not be flexible enough? I don't feel like I can grip the ball
Your index finger is used for the release of the shot. NOT the whole shot.
BBALLBREAKDOWN so would you reommend hopping off the dribble aswell?
YES - we have another 5 minutes from this session demonstrating the hop off the dribble. Stay Tuned..
okay great